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Why You Should Buy the Alfa Romeo GT Now! (Long Term Review)
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- The Alfa Romeo GT is a total bargain at the moment and it's also an excellent all-rounder. Chris The Alfa Nut has owned a 1.9 JTDm GT for over 2 years as a daily driver. He goes for a spin and talks about why NOW is the best time to buy one of these underrated coupes.
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This is one of the best if not the best long term review of a car I have ever seen. Owning this car for three years now I can confirm all the points highlighted in the video.
Well done
Hi Roberto, thanks for watching - I’m glad you enjoyed it! Sorry it was a bit long 😄
The firm ride is because of the stock suspension. Change to coilovers ASAP
If Alfa was making RWD cars with good reliability we wouldn't have known what BMW is...
And BMW is very relaiable 🤣🤣
I have owned 3 BMW's and they have all broken down (one was brand new). I have owned around 15 Alfas and never broken down in any of them. It's mostly about correct maintenance.
@nikosstories BMW are not very reliable. My friend had an E46 with all sorts of problems. It's like all cars. If they are abused they won't last. If you get a good one with lots of history. Keep on top and you'll be okay!
Luckily, my alfa has paperwork running into thousands.
Well said Jack, you are spot on! Regular maintenance is the key. Simple.
@TheAlfaNut Of course! I'm booked in for tomorrow for a driveshaft and some other bits.
Got to take it all the way to Bristol and then somehow get back to Cardiff for work all in the same morning!!!
What did Jeremy Clarkson once say? "An Alfa will ruin you" He's right there.
Such a lovely car though, I wouldn't change it for the world.
Own a 2.0 jts for one year now. Has been the best decision of my life. Is my daily to work. Like you said it is so comfortable, it is really a grand tourer. Perfect for long drives but when you find a nice twisty road it still does the job right.
It's a great choice for a daily commute isn't it?
Super review, you mentioned all its weak points! I have a GT with the 3.2 V6 for seven years now, in Alfa Rosso like yours. Everywhere I park it, I look back once or twice, because I think it has the best Scudetto front of all Alfas, it's absolutely gorgious.
From your useful list of weakpoints: I had the same thing with the rear suspension: the dish where the spring sits on broke loose because of rust during a slow drive through town, exactly like what happened to your spouse.
Oh you forgot to mention two more weakspots: the parking brake cables need to be replaced every four years if you don't use them regularly (The Netherlands are very flat, you know. Putting it in first gear is usually enough for parking here...), and the brake pipes/hoses become a danger after 15 years and need to be replaced to prevent failure during a trip.
Oh and the V6 in particular tends to eat front brake disks, because of the ever vigilant ASR (using the brakes to help prevent the car careening offroad into the nearest roadside shrubbery) works more often than you realize. Or just be reeeeeally gentle with the throttle.
Mine is remapped so the 6.000 rpm cap on 5th and 6th gear is moved up to 7.200rpm. Which would theoretically push it to 268 km/h. (166mph).. Which is madness. A V6 is madness. It is the most crazy engine for such a relativily small car that it even wrecks the turning circle because its bulk leaves no room to turn the front wheels far enough. Parking is always a hassle, and try a U-turn in a street will cause major traffic congestion because of the many times you need to go back and forth because the wheels won't turn far enough.
It's that funny little story. My Alfa is like a very beautiful woman, waaaay out of my league and waaaay beyond my budget. She drinks like a fish, cheats on me, lets me down every single time. But don;t you dare say anything bad about her! I love her so much.
Thanks for watching David and taking the time to comment - I think that the 3.2 GT will be very collectable in a few years time, so look after that beautiful lady, even though she is a bad girl! 😉
(not a car guy here)
Wait, so the engine is so big that it limits/hinders the rotation of the wheels?? That's crazy!
Yep, it’s a typical Alfa piece of “logic” 🤣
Thanks mate that was real detailed analysis on Alfa GT I might consider buying it knowing what I Heard from you
Hi Emenike, thanks for watching - I am currently making a second GT video all about the hidden features it has! Hope you find a good one!
Hi you lovely people - I just wanted to say a big Thank You for watching and subscribing to my channel, as I have just passed my first major milestone - the magic 1,000 subs mark!
This video was the most watched episode from my channel so far and obviously has engaged a lot of people, so thanks again, I really appreciate your support. More Italian content very soon! 😉
Great video. Bought my 2.0jts petrol 5 years ago as a cheap way into Alfa ownership. Fell in love with it and have gradually restored it to very minty condition. They are super reliable, beautiful and fun cars.
They are very underrated in my opinion too!
Does your drink oil too? Mine drinks around 1l per 1200 km
Mine 2.0jts drinks about 0,3L on 1000km
Great to see you back again
Thanks mate!
Great video, I was looking at buying one of these not too long ago but have decided to go for the 159. Looking forward to more content!
Thanks for watching Jake - good luck with the 159 - they are not without their problem areas too but a bit more modern and bigger of course. You should speak to the guys at the Alfa 159 group: facebook.com/groups/159register/
A great review. I've just recently bought my second GT 3.2 V6. A 2005 model in black with tan leather. It's my third Busso-engined Alfa, the first being a 156 2.5 V6. The GT is a stunning car to own and drive. You're absolutely right about the comfort levels. And as the seats get older they get better, like a well-worn saddle. The ride can be hard though, especially with the extra weight on the V6. And if your roads are bad, like mine here in Norfolk, then expect to get through a set of wishbones every year! Economy, well I could only every dream of 57mpg. On an average run I'll see 25-30mpg. Motorway running and being gentle will get you to 35+mpg. Drive it enthusiastically and play tunes on the mighty Busso and you're looking at 15mpg but my God, the Smiles-per-gallon are off the scale. Grossly underrated and certainly the V6 prices are climbing. We're not anywhere near 147GTA prices yet but I'm confident this is a true modern classic. Oh, and timing belts... get them done!! Forza Alfa Romeo!
Don't get me started on bad roads! I haven't driven a Busso engined GT yet but that engine makes everything its fitted to epic!
When i start my gt 3.2 v6 24V Busso
in the morning its like pavarotti singing his best opera. This car creats more hormones then Sex
Yea - it's a fabulous noise isn't it?
The noise is like telling you go faster,
and if you think to yourself no it will go wrong,
we will Crash .
She shouts do it anyway.redicolous
Haha, no you must always go faster! 😉
You have to be crazy to own a 3.2 Busso ;)
@@@FernandoFerreira-pq3my Si😂
Oh man you got me....im selling my bmw and im going for some alfa gt...btw great channel! The music you put in is great aswell (reminds me of gran turismo, the game)
Take care
Hi Jacob, thanks for watching! I’m happy that you enjoy the channel, some people don’t like the music but I have been a musician all my life and I can’t live without it! Good luck finding a nice Alfa. 👍🏻
Glad to see another Alfa GT Dan in the Exeter area. Thanks for the video. Despite its faults it hasn't out me off of buying one
Hi Michael, cheers bay! ;0)
I have been driving Alfa Romeo 156 2.0 all my days. I have 5 of them😅. Always loved them. But after this video I think I will try the GT😉👍🇩🇰 oh and subscribed good Sir.
Thanks for subscribing mate - good luck with finding a nice GT!
Just found your channel, I love Alfa Romeo so much, I own a MiTo, so underrated by people who know nothing about it, absolutely love the car.
Thanks for watching Lucas - I might be making a Mito video soon, so keep stopping by!
@@TheAlfaNut I sure will mate.
Hi Chris, thanks for this brilliant, detailed review of the GT. Thoroughly enjoyed and super helpful. What a stunning motor it is! Delighted to say I’ve just bought one - collecting it tomorrow 🙌🏻🙌🏻 can’t wait!!! My first ever Alfa 😍 and about bloody time!
Liked & subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more of your content 🇮🇹
Hi Thomas, thanks a lot for watching and hope you enjoy owning your GT - its a bargain at the moment!
@@TheAlfaNut Loving it so far Chris! An absolute joy to drive and looks so damn fine!
Used to own GT with JTS 2.0 petrol engine. Pretty good car with good engine and gearbox, really fun to drive. Now I regret selling it... Nice video mate
Thanks for watching Dimitrije!
Great video and you've got me browsing the classifieds for a nice GT. My first Alfa was a 147 and currently have a Mito. In between I had a Mini Cooper which was so unreliable i started to loath the car. The Mito is a revelation. Now I fancy a Gt though. Subscribed! Keep up the good work
Cheers for watching mate! You can get a really nice GT for £2k these days and they are great! 😁
Great channel Nuts. Enjoy driving the only machine with Cuore Sportivo!!
Hi Luis - Forza Alfa!! 👍🏻
This video was the best review of GT you answered all my question, I'm now looking to buy my first car and my options are Vw Golf mk4 and this the only thing I'm consern about is reliability. But yeah, thank you for making it.
That's great to hear - thanks for your message and good luck with your choice. Many people think the Golf will be more reliable than the Alfa but it isn't true - it just has different problems!
I’ve ridden motorcycles for ever, last car was a 1994 Honda Civic. I’m gonna get one of these I’m thinking definitely future classic
Get a 3.2 v6 version if you can - they will increase in value the most! I just bought a mint 2001 Monster S4 (916 engine) for some summer fun!
And people never believe my car os 13 years old and the design 15 years!!! They are stunned when i say that xD
It's a timeless shape and I think it will carry on ageing well - like the 156 has done.
@@TheAlfaNut Hi mate, great video; accurate and very helpful - to me, at least, cause I think to buy a GT in a couple of months.
Now, about the design-subject you talk about, my opinion is that there is not a sigle Alfa Romeo car that is not a timeless shape. Alright, I am an Alfista freak but, watching all the old Alfas on the road next to other cars (contemporary or not), I cannot oversee the difference all Alfas do.
As I've said to a couple of friends of mine, the Alfa Romeo designs form the future design. It does not make a difference whether you liked an Alfa Romeo car when it was brand new - nearly everybody will come to accept it, at first, and admire it, as the time goes by. Sure, the coloring combination makes a huge difference, but this "rule" seems to work.
I look forward to hearing your views on the subject. Cheers!!
Hi mate, thanks for watching and yes I agree that almost all Alfas become classics in time. Now is a great time to buy a GT and I am just working on a second video about some hidden features of the GT which are very interesting! Be sure to watch that one! 👍🏻
Haha, when the giulia was brand new, I have had some people asking me if my gt was the new alfa XD
Classic design doesnt go out of date! 👍🏻
Great video and channel! I had a GT 1.9 Blackline for 5 years. I covered 80,000 miles in it replaced many bushes and suspension arms. I sold it a few months ago but really missed it so now have a 147 1.9 Sport Q2 which is essentially exactly the same underneath. Bargain cars for what they are!
Hi mate, thanks for watching! Yeah they are a lot of fun for not much money - hence the reason for making this video. Before too long, they will go the same way as 156's - most will get run into the ground then scrapped and then prices of the survivors will start to rise. 147's too!
do you recommend a GT blackline, or a brera 2.4?
Hi Diogo, difficult choice! The GT Blackline is very cheap at the moment, so its possible to find a decent one for very little money but the Brera 2.4 has a great engine and is more modern. It looks fantastic too. However, it is much heavier than the GT and doesn’t handle so well. For a commuter or long distance car, I would probably choose the Brera but for weekend fun, the GT would be the one! Hope that helps. 👍🏻
Great review. I had a low mileage one years ago. I always walked away looking at it...a wok of art. I did bend the sill by putting a jack in the wrong place. Cant get one for London anymore, because of the Ulez coming in.
Great video, just a clarification: 1.9 jtd as well as 1.3 mjet weren't the result of any collaboration between fiat and other manufacturers. Fiat group just sold the engines to others as the result of trade agreements. They were developed and produced entirely by fiat.
Thanks for that Leo - I stand corrected.
The engine is the exact same
@@derekwilliammills388 - that's what he said. It *is* the same as the Vauxhall CDTi engine, but wasn't developed by GM. It was developed entirely by Fiat.
Good review. It's a very practical vehicle as well - Tardis-like in terms of boot space when the seats are down. I have the same colour combination with the V6 and to my shame I have used it many times to cart stuff to the dump and from the hardware shop.
Haha, no shame in that Chris - that’s kind of the point of this review, it’s a very practical vehicle and having a 3.2 Busso engined car that you can use for dumping trips and removals is the best of both worlds! 😄
Liquid funk in the background. Love it!
Well spotted mate!
Hello Chris,
I really enjoyed your channel ... superb, full of info and fun at the same time.
Do you give us a fresh air about Alfas and Alfa Nuts as we are.
You have gained one more subscriber!
You need to drive an Alfa Romeo 155, young man ...
A true 90"s racing legend. ( Won Championships as DTM, BTCC, STCC, SWTC, JTCC, etc..)
There are on the road nowadays, many 155 models like AWD Turbo, V6 (2.5), 2.0, 1.8, Diesel, etc. versions.
Any chance of you making a video about the Alfa 155?
Keep up the great work !!
Cheers
Mauricio - London.
Thanks for your kind words Mauricio, and for subscribing too. I do know a local guy with an immaculate 155 which I hope to feature soon. (If he'll let me get behind the wheel! ;0)
Great video Chris, brought back many memories of my GT blackline JTDm loved it, bags of character, my only gripe was the flawed driving dynamics, I feel the 156 chassis was a showing its age and did not do the GT's more sporty exterior justice, still a cracking car and becoming more rare (especially in busso V6 guise), as you say an absolute bargain!
Cheers for watching Dave, I agree with your sentiments too. Uprated anti roll bars, bushes and shocks make a huge difference to many standard Alfas and I tend to do that to every car I own. I’d love a Busso GT but have too many cars already!
The Alfa Nut the chassis itself and suspension design is great. The problem to me personally is the bars size.
I give you an example, my 156 SW Sportpack even with Bilstein B12, rolled a little bit and was a bit sluggish. Its not that it doesnt grip. It grips a lot with the Contis and the Bilstein B12s, but doesnt feel sporty enough on the dynamics, it just understeers too much.
Yet ive driven one like mine but with original springs and dampers but with a GTA bar on the rear and a Q2 diff. Its changes radically the car balance. Much less understeer.
In the meantime ive fitted Eibach Anti Roll Bars both front and rear.
And also installed powerflex bushings, they last, man!
Great review. I am looking to buy a 2.0 Jts or a 1.8 Tspark at the moment. It is one of the most underrated cars and a really do not understand why. It has a lot of space and the design will never get old. Its a future classic.
Agreed - the GT is in that place currently where it is very under valued and a lot of car for the money.
Only petrol ones will be clasic one day...
True 🙂
I own a 2005 147 (facelift) 1.9JTDm, 150hp but with a lot of GT parts. Apparently a lot of them are the same. Love it!
Yes they are - I was thinking about making a video about the 147 too, as they are equally good cars?
Excellent vid... High production value too. ;)
Cheers Dog, appreciate you noticing! 😉
My dad used to own the GT with the Busso V6. It had terrible reliability and gas milage but it was by far his favorite car which he had ever owned (from 2008 till 2011 if I remember correct).
I have such great childhood memories of this car. Always when we would visit his brother and his children, there was a highway with stop lights before the highway started and he always used to accelerate to the max when the light turned green. If he never did that I wouldn't have been as much as a car lover as I am now :).
Furthermore always when my football team had a football match in another place, our football team would be transported to this place in parents their cars (every match a few parents had to drive) and when my father had to drive, everyone always wanted to be in the GT :D (we were 8-9 yo back then).
This is one of the cars that I truely love
Hi Gaat - thanks for watching. Haha yes - The V6 is the kind of car every kid wants their Dad to have!
Really good car,i have a rosso GT cloverleaf ,brilliant car,keep going with what you do,you doing well.
Hi Mihnea - thanks a lot for watching mate 👍🏻
I picked up by GT 1.9 diesel for 725 quid spent 200 fixing the radiator and since then nothing has gone wrong with it. I've had it for a year now had nothing go wrong with it at all best car I have ever owned. Can't believe it was so cheap considering it had over 3000 pounds spent on it before me to get it going again
Thanks for watching Morgan - just keep an eye on it and it won’t let you down. 👍🏻
Great video! I own a 2.0 JTS one myself. Do have the occasional electronic glitch and a bit of oil use but it still is the nicest car I’ve owned so far. A joy to drive and a great opportunity for non petrol heads to learn about fixing your car yourself and save a lot of money 😉
Cheers Jeroen - glad you are enjoying your GT
Hi do you have a wobbly shift nob mine has 90 thousand km and the shift nob is very unprescise? I haven't drive any other manual gt și i don't know if that how they are from the factory or mine is worn out
@@dumitruhojbota5879 mine is a little bit wobbly but I can still shift precisely. I do know that it is a common problem for 147’s and GT’s. There are some video’s on youtube that show how you can fix this 👍🏻
Yes, I replaced mine with an alloy Richbrook gear knob. 👍🏻
Thanks to you I bought a 1.9 alfa romeo gt q2 version. It has all the torque you need lol. Well, it has some issues, but I love it. And sadly here I have to take it sometimes on gravel roads, although every time I feel the pain just as the car does :D
Thank you for a great video review! I loved my 2005 1.9JTD GT. It felt special, steered and handled well, was practical and as it was remapped went like the clappers and was incredibly economical to own and run and perhaps most importantly is really beautiful and classy. I still miss my GT..a lot!
I now own a GT 1.9 jtd. Beautiful car!
Well done Phillip - enjoy!
My Alfa 156 has been with broken AC at least 10 times :) But i still love it
Yes, the AC in the 156 is pretty bad but it's still a great car to drive!
Good summary, they are a bit special! My son has a JTS daily driver..... he loves it....
Thanks for watching Richard. Great value at the moment too no?
i had a gt 1.9jtdm 2005 reg stromboli grey with tan leather for over six years, brilliant car. in 2020 its still on the road and someone else is still loving it.
Hi Howard, thanks for watching! Thats a nice sounding colour combo - one of my favourite. 😉
I've just purchased a 58 plate cloverleaf in blue.
Cost so far -
Four new tyres.
Full wishbone and drop link replacement. (Squeaking)
Washer motor and hose replacement more holes than swiss cheese!
Discs and pads all round ( my choice)
Cleaned the window switches.
New gear knob.
Full service.
Full wax oil seal underneath.
And you know what with every penny I absolutely love it ! I haven't seen another one yet. Came from a guiletta and it drives better than that. This one is a keeper, hope they start going up in value??
Hi Chris, thanks for commenting. The GT is a very underrated car - hope you enjoy owning her!
Lovely video, I'm driving the 2008 Blackline myself - love those wheels! What's that gear lever knob? Mine had its paint crack and tear all over the place and I'm looking for a possible 3rd party replacement, given how the original part is so damn expensive.
Hi Dmitrijus - thanks for watching. The gear knob is a Richbrook branded one - try Amazon. Cheers Chris 👍🏻
Nice video. Good job. I agree with most things you comment. I am a proud owner in Turkey of a 2008 2.0 jts selespeed. If it is maintained frequently and well, there shouldn't be problems. Also, my experience dictates that the quality of the gasoline is important. Otherwise it will lead to injector, coil or other problems and it will conceal itself as engine problems. All connectors tend to oxidise so should check them if some error starts showing. Also, should check oil level and color frequently. As for the interior or mechanical parts, it is normal for a 10+ year machine to have all these aging problems. I think it should be completely renovated (plastics, rugs, leather etc) when the time comes. Buying one (any 10+ year machine) means an ongoing budget more than your initial investment. It's like a lover, whenever I caress her, give her love (=$$), she makes me happy tenfold :)
Thanks for watching Gorkem, glad you enjoy your GT 👍🏻
I own her sister, an Alfa Romeo 147 1.9 JTD facelift; they are beautiful car.
Alfa Romeo GT in the future will rise in price in my opinion.
Yes I think so too.
The V6 is booming, 2-3 years ago £3k would get you into a nice one. £6k+ now for anything worth having
Had a beautiful black GT - the V6 version - with red leather interior in 2008. Traded it in for the V6 Brera in 2013, only to go back to a red Limited Edition centenary V6 GT a month later. Still driving her. And still one of the best cars I’ve ever driven. A true collector’s item 🖤❤️
Hang onto her Emil and the value will start to rise in a year or two! 👍🏻
Thanks, Chris! She was one of the last 100 models built in 2012 to celebrate Alfa’s centenary. Still in near brand new condition. All original and 117,000km on the clock. A keeper for sure, thank you 😊
what was the brera like? And why did you go back?
Diogo Vieira The all-wheel drive chassis was too heavy for the 3.2L engine to pull. The car just felt sluggish and drank too much juice. The GT was the best Alfa I’ve ever driven... until the Giulia came along. Yet I still prefer the GT’s looks over the Giulia. Do you also Alfa?
I've got an Alfa Romeo 147 TI 1.6 and I love it, nothing looks as sexy and pretty as an Alfa 😍
I agree! Thanks for watching 👍🏻
I have a cloverleaf GT with many tweaks from AutoLusso, running 270hp and its amazing, great fuel economy, huge torque and super fast. Love my car! Get the Q2 or the cloverleaf and you get the clever diff as well. The cloverleaf and Q2 have bigger injectors for bigger gains. The cloverleaf with 170 standard is the one with badges on the wings not the arse and you should see the hp on the inside of the door frame.
The mods were....... expensive, and will never regain the cost but shes a keeper.
Remap, Hybrid Turbo, Straight through decat exhaust, Decat downpipe from turbo, Short shift, Reinforced GTA clutch, Single Mass Flywheel, Front Mount Intercooler, Swirl Flap and EGR delete, New oil cooler, cambelt etc.
Considering a clutch change because the torque is so high I still get slippage. Koni FSD shocks and Eibach springs on the shoppping list....
GT's are amazing. Buy one!
Thanks for watching Capta1n - you GT sounds like a proper sleeper! I bet you give a lot of supposedly faster cars a scare ?
@@TheAlfaNut it's. Lot of fun on the motorway surprising BMW's, and when other Alfa drivers have a little fun with Me it's always nice to win hahaha. Need to throw another £1200 at it to fully sort the suspension and then it's onto the paint for the various stone chips etc.
Just a shame about the tractor noises when idling haha
@@capta1nher0 Yeah, it's a little bit noisy isn't it!
I have 147 jtdm with swirl delete decat egr induction etc gta clutch singlemass its brand new and slipping with 200bhp 280fl/lb. Its a really linier map, I don't know why they recommend them I'm quite pissed tbh wasnt cheap as you know. I should have realised when it turned up looking half as beefy as my STI exedy pink box rated 300bhp 300ft/lb. Love the car otherwise. After arbs and uprated shocks springs and brakes. BTW Brembo HP2000 pads on standard disks are awesome! Not cheap but worth every penny mate. Lost my 20v turbo with rubbish brakes. All the best Luke
@@lukepearson4954 Im dragging my current clutch out until its dead. I got the GTA clutch reinforced with kevlar from autolusso. However I wasnt aware of the bedding in period, kevlar clutches need around 2000miles to bed in properly, I floored mine from the get go and glazed it. It's toast now. I have looked at the cg motorsports dual friction clutch but they informed me it does not play well with alfa's and has a horrid feel. I think the best solution for you is what I am going to do again, GTA clutch, reinforce with kevlar, and then bed that bastard in properly. I have double checked and it should be able to handle the power fine it just needs taking care of. £360 for the modified clutch then just gotta get it fitted.
I have a 54 plate exactly the same , took it off the road for am while to give it a paint job , red panels fading here and there. Converted the entertainment unit to a JVC unit with reverse camera , works a treat. Also put Bilstein shocks on the rear , which was a huge improvement . Thinking of putting back on the road , getting the sale of my 159 to pay for spray job. Oh yes the sill , all welded and wax oiled. Will see ,great video, inspires new thoughts!
Hey Patrick, thanks for watching mate. I bought a new Giulietta for the Wife to replace the GT and now wish I had kept the GT!
@@TheAlfaNut That's just in my thoughts , as in the Gt reminded me of the fun I had in the 147 ,2.ol , I wasn't disappointed. The only reason I bought the 159 was to get a younger car and not have any body work to do. That's fine , it's just a heavier car and needs all its 170hp. Not decided yet!
I have a 2008 GT Quadrifoglio 1.8 which I believe was the swan song of the GT. I’ve had it from new and it’s done 120,000 mile which is amazing for a petrol engine. No major issues other than repetitive bulb failures, particularly the front side lights. After 11 years, it still puts a smile on my face when I drive it and I find that I drive it a lot more than my new BMW 4 series Gran Coupe!
Thanks for watching Jeremy - you have summed it up in a sentence - it’s how you feel when you drive it that matters! Somehow, Alfa have that little magic wand when they build cars. 🙂
I had a 156 Sportwagon with the 1.9jtdm - superb engine, beautiful car - sounded great when revved. Love the interior too - I note that you also fold the front middle armrest up - impossible to use the handbrake when it’s folded down!!
Yeah, its gets in the way of the gear lever too! 😄
Typical Alfa'ness that haha
Nice video Chris! I have mine for almost 3 years (same JTD), I am loving every second of it. Definitively one of the underdogs in modern car world. Has anyone had that annoying "error glow plug" upon startup and possible fix?
Thanks for watching! Not a problem I’ve had yet but lots of black smoke under acceleration is a problem right now 😄
@@TheAlfaNutThat's not a problem at all :p
I did eliminate that with blocking the EGR, but I did not want to have that engine light on for that. So returned to stock with additional smoke :D
That springmount thing happened to me a few years back. First I thought I had a blown tyre but it turned out to have both rearsprings/shocks replaced plus an almost new Michelin winter tyre.Total costs a little over €800,-
Thanks for commenting Ronald - yes its a universal problem for the GT I’m afraid
I have the GT in red with the lion yellow interior, with the 2.0 JTS engine. It's my first car and I love it!
I first saw it on a fair back in 2007 and fell in love with it. I said to myself "I want this car in the future". Then when my dad was looking for a new car, my sister got our Rover 45. I thought that I would eventually get the next car then. So I convinced my father, together with a friend of his, to buy the GT. Then all I had to do was to wait 10 years. I even student drove in that thing.
Speaking about visability through the back window. I think it's horrible! I see like 2 cars behind me. But I'm so used to it now, that I think it's scary when I drive for example my fathers Giulietta, and can see backwards so good.
You have a lot of patience Erik! Waiting 10 years to drive your GT shows real determination! 😄
Good information. Thanks 👍
Cheers for watching mate!
I bought a GT for my birthday for waiting the replacement of my gearbox of my 156 2.0 JTS Selespeed!!!! The GT is really nice to drive
Happy Birthday - what a nice present! 😉
Did you buy one with the selespeed, I've heard people had problems with it
@@dumitruhojbota5879 Yes I have my 156 Selespeed since 5 years and a half now but many of us drive the Selespeed in the wrong way like me. Since then i read the owners manual and stop to put it on neutral on the red lights or for parking it and everything is fine
I feel a bit nostalgic watching this video. Had this car in this color (with the same chiptune), with nice 18" rims under it. such a beautiful car.
The GT is an underrated car and you get an awful lot for your money now! I hope you bought another Alfa afterwards?? ;0)
@@TheAlfaNut That was a few years back and I bought a mazda mx5 in its stead. But now I have a dream combo: the mx5 nc 2.0 with the retractable hardtop and an alfa 159 sw ti 2.0 jtdm as the daily driver :) Looking forward to your 159 videos!
Yep the 159 is a lovely daily, Ive only driven the 1.9jtdm so far but a tuned 1750 tbi is next!
I am picking up a 2005 GT 1.8 petrol in a few days I am very excited about it i was looking for one of these for a very long time and luckily i've found one in a pretty neat condition with low mileage with the exact same seats and equipment
Excellent - well done! How are you getting on with it, did you collect it yet?
@@TheAlfaNut I've just tried her out today she is not bad few things to be done here and there for example there is an issue with the check engine light on the gauge cluster which isn't still recognized what the problem is but the owner went to a local service and they guess it's something with the gas that's not coming properly to the engine, but I'm still thinking about it she runs fine to be honest but I didn't make the deal yet I think the owner overpriced her a little bit couldn't make it a fair price
Sounds like those are minor issues? If you leave the seller to sweat for a few days, he might decide to lower the price a little! 😉
Just sent this video to a friend who’s considering a 06 Audi TT , I hope it’ll do the job , along with my recommendation of either a GT or Giulietta ...
Cheers Joe, hope he makes the right decision!
I’ve got those seats in my Punto! Absolutely love them
Cheers for watching Jimmy! Punto's are getting a bit rarer now too aren't they?
Yeah for sure, I’ve got the mk2b with a Speedgear transmission so spares are a real issue. Saying that though, I have had it for a good year and a half now and I’ve had absolutely no problems with it! Quite surprising really given its reputation and age. Now I’m looking for a used Alfa that can offer me more power at a fairly cheap price...
Good luck with the search!
Thumbs up for the liquid funk I hear in the background. Such a shame that this music is only popular in the UK
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
I bought 2.0 jts selespeed GT 2 months ago and I love her more and more every day. It's freakin amazing car.
Good choice mate - hope you continue the love affair! 😉
Kocurr are there any issues with tge gear so far??
@@vladimirart758 at cold days I get some selespeed system failure on screen for some seconds. It can't change gear at this time automaticaly or by myself. I don't solve this problem yet, but it's only one I noticed. So far I can honestly recommend this gearbox.
I bought a black gt 3.2 v6 today. It's really fun to drive and the engine is just a masterpiece! The sound 🥰
Well done, I’m sure you won’t regret it!
UK road Tax is £555 per year on that car. I was looking and toying with that engine but with the UK being so pathetic, I then thought of the 2.0L jts. But, for me, it lacks power/torque for A-road overtaking at 50mph. Maybe the diesel is the optimum, with the remap. Such a lovely shape on this car.
Road tax on the V6 is cheaper if you buy a pre ‘05 model 👍🏻
@@TheAlfaNut there are two on Ebay right now. One, appears to be more rust than steel on the previous MOT history. It would need some serious time spent on the suspension, break pipes, chassis and sub frame. De-rust or weld or replace. From what I've seen on other CZcams guides to the GT, unless you're in Arizona or Western Australia, the chassis will seriously suffer the effects of corrosion. What's your experience since your ownership?
Hi mate, mine has been ok for rust so far, the bodies are galvanised but the chassis is the weak point of course, salted UK roads and all that. Sills can start to rust internally after being crushed by careless mechanics on garage lifts but the usual places that 156’s and GTV’s rust also apply to the GT, so floorpan, inner arches and sills. Caveat Emptor! 😉
+Alfa Nut Do you have the upper and lower engine covers on your GT?
A friend of mine didnt have both and the engine was noisy. Mine has both and sound smooth even at the startup.
Yes the upper one is there but not sure about the lower - I’ll check 👍🏻
The sill crushing is unfortunately very common. Other points to look out for, based on my own GT ownership. On the diesel engine, the turbo inlet pipe is prone to splitting. If this happens, you can get a modified pipe, which will cure the issue. Tyre choice is important and significantly affects how the car drives. Mine had P Zeros when I bought it, which tend to follow road imperfections quite badly. Eagle F1s cured this for me. Drivers seats wear heavily on the side and sometimes split at the stitching. A combination of seatbelt chafing and people who struggle to get in and out of the car. Headlights are like candles, so if you do a lot of night driving, then maybe best to look for one of the higher specced versions with xenons fitted (HID kits are not really legal in UK). Ive had a GT, a Brera and a Giulietta and I would happily buy any of those again, but if you need auto, forget the GT and Brera, unfortunately. Make use of owner forums, such as AlfaOwner etc. They are a mine of useful information.
I've got falken on mine and the cars great
Great review, I've got my eye on a 3.2 GT that helps tempting me.
The GT is closer to the 147 than the 156, even sharing a pretty much identical dashboard and gauge cluster. I think the door skins are the same as the 147 three door as well.
I daily a 147 JTDm doing around 5-600km a week, and it's been surprisingly reliable, but i'm not getting anywhere near the same fuel consumption as you're getting. My average is around 5.6l/100km.
Mine averages about 46 mpg in daily driving Michael (lady driver, not much caning of the throttle!) - I only get 55+ on a long journey.
@@TheAlfaNut admittedly, my fuel consumption is an overall average, and includes a 110km drive to work which includes the "Kaimai Grand Prix" over the Kaimai ranges. And while I don't drive like Fangio, I don't drive like a nana either!
nope. The GT is much lower than the 147. Put them side by side and you'll see the 147 seems more boxy. The windshield of the GT has a much lower angle. The 147 feels lighter though. Fun fact, a GT is actually a tiny bit longer than a 159 Sports Wagon...
@@dvdinther you're absolutely correct, it is longer and longer, and even the door mirrors are smaller. I was referring to the floorplan and suspension setup which is interchangeable with the 147, and the dash and gauge cluster is almost identical. I keep asking myself why I need a GT, but haven't found a reason not to yet apart from my back balance.
I owned a 3.2 chipped, cat back wizard exhaust. No problems to mention.
And it sounded fabulous of course! Dan’s exhausts are legendary. 👍🏻
So true. Sounds like a Riva boat ☺️
Have you changed even manifolds?
Got a 2004 Red 2.0 JTS since 3 Years and its my first alfa. I drived 2 VW before and they were just much more cheap looking and even had much more problems. My alfa has now 247000 KM and is still driving so well. I Will get the Giulia if it will die one Day. But until than i will have so much fun with drive car. Curore delle Emotioni
Hope it lasts for another 250,000 kilometres! Thanks for watching. ;0)
Yeah i want one!!! Used to be a Alfa owner 20 years back with the 164 V6 but when the kids came along.......
Yep - ditto! I managed to own a Maserati before I had kids! 😄
I had a GT 2.0JTS for many years. Indeed very good seats and a large trunk. The JTS is using a lot of oil and fuel but makes that up with comfort, looks and handling. I loved it a lot.
Hi Ronald, yes its a good car and gets under your skin. I’m selling my 1.9jtdm at the moment and I’ll miss it.
@@TheAlfaNut My personal feeling about the GT was that it was not just a car, it was like a glove or a tailormade suite. Inside, it became part of you, and my Bella Gria was certainly part of me. I miss her :(
Ive had my 2.0 JTS for 5 years now, and have done over 20,000 miles in it. How else can you get a svelte Aston like coupe for this price. With proper rear seats at the back ( non of this 2+2 nonsence ALL modern coupe's are afflicted with) its driving dynamics and a boot large enough to keep the mafiosi happy, It makes the perfect car. Another good thing about it is you can always resort to good quality used parts to keep it on the road. You can spot my Alfa in all my Alfisti related videos. You cant miss it, it has furniture castor sized wheels.
It's certainly a good practical daily - I've had mine for 2 years now and always enjoy driving it.
This case with spring mount. The same happens to me few weeks ago.
Hi Bogdan, its a nasty surprise isn't it??
I had a blackline for 2 years. The diesel is a brilliant daily driver, very practical and a nice place to be sat for longer periods. However it does have build quality problems.
Quick tip, when you open the doors from the outside, put pressure on where the handle hinge is with your thumb when you pull the handle. Theyll easily break and they arent easy to get to to replace. Make sure you tell the AA man as well, I have them to thank for my passenger side coming off.
Hi SB - yeah some of the GT production run were better than others - this has always been the case with Alfa’s it seems. A sometimes patchy quality control
I replaced both handles on my dads 2008 blackline about 6 months back, they were an absolute pain to get to. I hope for everyone's sake they never go again as the garage wanted a few hundred quid to do it.
I just got a jtd for 500 and had to put a strut and spring on it and got the stage 1tune e.g. same as yours and I love it lol
It's a great car and amazing value too at the moment. Better built than a Giulietta!
Subscribed! Would love to buy a GT but some of the niggles you highlight put me off as I really need the car to be reliable (it would be my commute car). Been driving an old '06 plate Golf GTI which has been bulletproof but I kinda want an Alfa! I only do around 15 miles a day with 3 of those miles being motorway so I guess diesel would be a bad choice. How are the 2.0 JTS engines?
Hi Mike, the JTS engines are fine as long as you keep an eye on oil but they are a teeny bit bit bland to be honest.
Owned a black GT, tan leather, jet fan wheels... Lost count how many people commented 'beautiful, amazing, stunning, wow car'. Belissimo!
Ill get mine tomorrow, it has the 2l petrol, 50 thousand miles and impeccable condition, I got it for a good price because one side has a big scratch
Hi Domitry - thanks for watching! I hope you love your GT - it sounds good :0)
Its a beauty throughout. I've never seen one. I wish we had access to them, here in the U.S.
Hi Edward - you can import one when they are 25 years old! Long time to wait tho' :0(
Thanks for this video Chris. I have just bought a second hand Alfa Romeo GT 1.9 JTDm 16V. Its a 2007 model and has only done 67k mileage. Cost me £2750. I hope this is is good value, seems pretty good when comparing it to online prices. The only thing that concerned me was the gearstick was a bit stiff. The dealer told me thats common in Alfas and "part of the charm" lol. Not sure about that but it wasnt too bad so it didn't change my mind. Also unfortunately I was unable test drive it due to the covid rules so i'm hoping all is well. I wondered what your thoughts were regarding the gearstick? Is it a common thing with Alfas?
Hi Darren, the dealer perhaps didn’t know but the stiff gearstick is actually not “part of the charm” in fact its very annoying but the good news is that its relatively easy to fix. The linkage uses “top hat” bushes and these perish and the linkage becomes corroded and stiff. To fix it, unbolt the fuse box & battery tray and unclip the gear linkage below. Its easy to swap out the top hat bushes, grease it up and reassemble it all. Its a 1-hour job on the driveway, I did it to my GT (also a 2007 1.9).
You can find full instructions online - try www.alfaowner.com. Enjoy the car 👍🏻
PS check the suspension dampers very carefully ideally on a car lift. They rust on the circular spring platform where the springs rest and can collapse without warning! Not good - that also happened to my GT 😬. Otherwise, great car
Hey, thanks for the video. Would you recommend the GT as a first car of a new driver?
Hi mate, yes I would - it feels very sporty to drive and as long as you choose wisely (check for rust underneath and especially check that the suspension is good, as the shock absorbers tend to rust and collapse!) and also choose a car with good service history. Be prepared to maintain the car well and it should be reliable 👍🏻
I've had my GT for over 6 years now, started as a 150BHp blackline, and has morphed through 200BHp via a remap and now to 256BHp with hybrid turbo and various other mods. My observations are as follows: 1. polybush the upper arms - mine were done over 40k miles ago and still no noise. 2. The eibach anti-roll bar kit is a must have as it tightens everything up, get decent polys for the roller though as the ones eibach supply are shocking. 3. Michelin cross climates really suit the GT. 4. Get the EGR removed at the same time as the swirl flaps. 5. If you must lower this car, get adjustable camber etc fitted first, dodgy geometry causes major tyre wear. 6. The boot floor (spare wheel cover) from the earlier models is corrugated and way stronger than the later ones, if you can get on it's very worthwhile. 7. Mapped cars can be hard on clutches, 175BHp is fine on a standard / cloverleaf edition clutch, currently I run a single mass flywheel and GTA clutch but looking at upgrading to a stage 4 with DMF. At 200BHp an OEM standard clutch/DMF kit lasted 20k miles from new. The GT is a great car, but go in with your eyes open as they can be real money pits, so far mine has cost me north of £15k.
Egr and swirl flaps.... Tell me more? Just bought my first gt and any advice would be fantastic
Depending on the year of your GT, and this is the diesel I’m talking about here. The early GT with the CF3 engine has plastic swirl flaps on stainless steel posts whereas the later CF4 models has stainless flaps on plastic posts. If the early cars lose a flap the car will run rough for a few day but no engine damage, if the later cars let go, in most cases you are looking at a new engine. I say most because I dodged a bullet with mine, the flap was jammed behind the valve stem. Anyway, on the newer cars the swirl flap motor and attachments are below the inlet manifold so you can’t see them, you will get mechanics tell you the car doesn’t have flaps fitted. Just plain wrong. You will feel a reduction in response when they are removed because they do quite a bit to make the car more responsive.
EGR can be blanked with a blanking plate, they tend to get very gummed up and cause more issues than the solve. Mine was completely removed and the coolant rerouted.
One of the things I’m looking into is making stainless posts to mount the stainless flaps on, they should last the lifetime of the car.
@jhpbrown hi mate, thanks for all the useful info - its good to see that some people want to stretch the limits and see off some of the Golf GTI boys! 😎🤣
@@TheAlfaNut I closely watched the experience one of the guys in my GT groups had with his, he took it to 278BHp and had major problems as a result. I'm happy with mine where it is, I'm looking into getting a reliable swirl flap setup, stainless posts and flaps, as you do lose some of the initial responsiveness. Hopefully that will improve things as well.
@jhpbrown hi mate, yes the point where increased power starts to smash reliability is often quite easy to spot! 🥴
I forgot to mention, Car Mechanics Magazine is running a month by month piece following the repair of an Alfa Romeo GT 2.0 JTS. I must admit some of the fixes to me are like deja vu.
LOL - likewise!
beautiful car. I have 1987 Alfa Romeo Graduate 5 speed. very good and well made cars.
Thanks for watching Adamo - enjoy your Spider!
GTA in all but name.
Had two...my hybrid turbo 250bhp blackline was an absolute peach.
Great cars and seriously considering another in V6 flavour...
250bhp sounds like fun Joe - I’d really like a V6 but I’ve got too many cars already!
I owned a 156 V6 SP3 - loved that car even if home spannering was frustrating!
So many silly clips, Italian bolts and pipes in crazy places... loved the car though, up to 70% driving it was a peach - quick steering, great engine response and keen to rev plus good gear change and positive clutch.
Over 70% especially over rough surfaces on sweeping bends it struggles, plus the brakes had plenty of bite but no strength when slowing from big speeds...
With that heavy V6 up front, traction was excellent, even in the rain. Allowed some silly lift off oversteer on roundabouts too 😂
Great daily that tugged on my heart strings but a lousy track car in standard form. Your GT is beautiful, nice car 👍
Hi Dave, yeah - completely agree with you! I have a now restored 156 V6 SP3 (only 3 left on the road I believe) and mine has got upgrades to address the issues you mention: Koni yellows & lowered springs, 4 pot Mito QV Brembos at the front, (bolt straight on), refurbed calipers at the back with good pads and poly bushed suspension. I also rebuilt the engine top end but mileage is only 82k, so its still pretty good. Supersprint exhaust means revving it hard is addictive but that means terrible fuel economy! Its so pretty too 🙂
@@TheAlfaNut sounds lovely! Only 3 left? That’s such a shame, they were plentiful not so long ago - good news for you though with your rare Italian 👌
Yeah I know - there were almost 750,000 156’s made in total but most are gone now. Only 20,000 left in the UK and of those, only 3 V6 SP3 left on the road. There will be some others sitting in garages and back gardens in puddles of rust of course but only 3 are MOT’d and driving I believe. Sad 🥺
The GT is a beauty and drives almost like the 156. But sadly the 2.0JTS engine is crap! Buy the 1.8TS version or the diesel. The 2.0JTS burns between 3 a 4 liters oil on every 2000km. When the oil is low, the engine breaks.
Yes, the JTS isn't as good as the Twinspark sadly.
still love my GT. Is a red 1900JTDm from 2009 with 175hp chip tuning. Q2 front differential. original Quadrifoglio Verde edition on 18'wheels.
The GT share more parts from the 147 than from the 156.
Sounds good Fer - hang onto it!
GT is same car as 156, but in 2-door coupe version. Only interior looks similar with 147, and from the outsite front headlights also
PetrolHead BS True. The chassis base of the GT is in fact based on the 156 SW. Both share elements like Dampers or even the rear seats. Yes rear seats from 156 SW or GT are interchangeable.
I have the tan leather seats. They look great, but the driver's one is a bit worn on one side. Any advise for restoring?
Hi mate, you can buy leather restoration kits from Ebay - look for Alfa tan. Just clean the leather first with wool wash detergent mixed 50/50 with water to get the dirt off, then when its dry, apply 2 or 3 coats of the leather dye, letting it dry between coats. I did this to my 156 seats which I’ll be fitting in an upcoming video. 🙂👍🏻
Hi Chris, the GT is a real bargain at the moment but hopefully they will gain some popularity with other Alfanuts or to those who haven't owned an Alfa before . The only thing to be wary of is a GT with lots of problems that will turn a bargain into a money pit ,ok if you can afford it . There's always the niggling suspension components and other weak spots but the one area that can cause the wallet to empty is the horribly weak and thin gauge sills which can turn an otherwise good looking car into an expensive fix . Replacement sills are not available anywhere ,so it's not an easy repair. But if you score and find a good bargain GT you'll enjoy it .
I think the V6 GT’s are appreciating already but the diesel and JTS cars will lag behind for some years. Still great value though. 👍🏻
I bought a brand new GT 2.0 JTS back in 2005. Kept it for 9 years, only used her for trips, took care of her and NEVER had ANY kind of issues not even a broken light bulb. The next owner still has the car, takes care of her the same way and had a 50euro cost of problem since purchased from me. The car was awesome and still miss it very much but had to sell it, 2 doors were not enough anymore :( .
Yes, like all Alfas, look after the car and it will look after you! 😉
Excellent review! I am planning on buying one myself, does anyone have experience with the 2.0 JTS? Is it at least a bit reliable?
Thanks for watching Drak - the JTS is fine - its just not quite as reliable as a twin spark
Hi, im interested in buying a gt, what is the best engine that is reliable/fun(power) or what engine do you think its the best. Thank you
Hi mate, thanks for watching! Well in my opinion the best engine is the Busso V6 but thats not very practical or economical! 😄. Personally I would go for a 1.9jtdm and then remap it to 175bhp. Remove the EGR system and also the swirl flaps (or buy a car that has had these mods done already). You then have a car which does 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and 55 mpg! (Mine is like this 😉). Watch out for leaking turbo hoses and creaking suspension bushes also check for rust underneath on the floorpan and sills. Otherwise a great car.
What is your opinion about the 2.0 jts model ? Also great video .
Thanks for watching. The 2.0 JTS has more power but the engine is less reliable than the diesel I'm afraid.
Eres el mejor!!! Saludos desde Bs As. Argentina!
Gracias por mirar. Aprecio tu apoyo. Saludos desde Devon England! :0)
Hi I'm interested in getting Alfa 159 ti 2.0 diesel 2010 what do you recommend. ?
Hi Neil, thanks for stopping by - tbh I’m not much of an authority on 159’s, if I were you I would have a chat with Chris McDonald of the 159 register on Facebook. He’ll sort you out. facebook.com/groups/159register/?fref=nf
I watched this video around 2 years ago, when it was released. I then bought a black Q2 GT, which has been my daily driver since. Never had an issue with the car, 115k on the clock now and only paid 1k for it. Thank you for making this video. (My wife has a new Vauxhall Mokka. I refuse to drive it).
Haha! Thanks for cheering me up David, I’m at home with Covid and this made me laugh! Glad it was of use 👍🏻
@@TheAlfaNut Sorry to hear that. Get well soon.
Thanks David, I’ll be ok - its just annoying because I was editing my next video release at long last!
How is the windnoise?
How is the suspension and handling? Is it bumpy?
Thanks alfa nut
Wind noise is not a problem for me - I keep the rubber door seals clean and lubricated. The suspension needed some renewing as I discuss in the video but the ride is good as long as you use decent tyres. 👍🏻
my local car dealership has one of these but says its cursed, keeps getting damaged etc... worth a shot at owning?
Hi Rory - yeah of course! Live dangerously ;0)
(Unless it has "666" in the registration number of course!)
What about the supossedly awful shifters on these? Is it that bad? If so can it be fixed?
Hi Kacpa - no the shifters are fine, if its difficult to use, you just need to clean and grease the linkage on top of the gearbox and replace the “top hat” bushes if necessary. It takes an hour and can be done on the driveway. Check out www.alfaowner.com for “how to” threads.
These alfas are so under appreciated, i have both 147 gta and gt3.2, extremily reliable, fast, handle awsome with a q2 diff, comfortable. What other daily driver car would you consider? These are the best, have been driving my gt 3.2 for 6 years and it always puts a smile on my face never boring.
Hi Paul, yes the GT 3.2 is certainly still quite cheap compared to the 147 GTA which has already risen in value. I test drove a 147 GTA with some mods last week for an upcoming video and really enjoyed it. 👍🏻
That's a well balanced pair of cars you have there ;) How do you choose which one to drive in the morning?
@@pyroclasm1 haha sometimes i just have to choose the one thats running better
@@jaymyers6452 That's brilliant :D that way you can fix and drive at the same time ;)