Sergei Bortkiewicz : Piano Sonata no. 2 in C-sharp minor, Op. 60 (performed by Jouni Somero)
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- Sergei Bortkiewicz (1877-1952)
Piano Sonata no. 2 in C# minor, Op. 60 (1941-42)
I. Allegro ma non troppo - C# minor - 0:12
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II. Allegretto - C# minor 8:20
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III. Andante misericordioso - C# major 14:02
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IV. Agitato - C# minor 22:35
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Performer: Jouni Somero
Sheet music: en.scorser.com/Out/4768540.html - Hudba
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His 2 Sonatas sound like a mix of Chopin's Ballades, Scherzi and Nocturnes and I love it.
We should be indebted to Jouni Somero rather than criticise his playing. He has brought us some relatively unknown gems, and this is one of the best. He points out the composers little tributes to Chopin Scriabin, Rachmaninoff and others in a carefully crafted way. Bortkiewicz is in the shadow of Rachmaninoff Scriabin ands Medtner, but his music is compelling in it's own way. This is a great listen for lovers of late romantic piano music as I am.
Thank You!!
I'm very sorry, but why waste time with bad playing of bad music... There are many examples of music, which doesn't deserve to stand in the dark, but sometimes the public taste doesn't fail
@@andreassorg7294 why wasting time commenting ?
@@SeigneurReefShark Commenting wastes much less time than badly practising bad music
Ok, I can compose two I-VI-V-I cadencas and three I-VI-V-VI-IV-I-V-I cadencas and tell the world that, although I stand in the shadow of Mozart and Beethoven, I'm compelling my on way. And - please - do not offend the shadow of Rachmaninov, Scriabin and Medtner
Honestly Bortkiewicz Sonatas are amazing. Who cares they sound like Chopin or Scriabin in parts? It's amazing anyways.
and Rachmaninov :)) 1:25
@@blackrachmaninovRachmaninoff is the one sounding like Bortkiewicz, check the dates
4:13 starts the main theme of Kalinnikovs 1st Symphony.
1:25 - The sequence at measure 30 is lifted straight out of Rachmaninoff's second piano concerto.
I thought i was going crazy! I knew i heard Rachmaninoff there!
Rach got robbed 😂😂
2:50 - This part too!
I think Rachmaninoff lifted his idea instead.
@@churnyeechong2427 Highly unlikely since Rachmaninoff wrote his piano concerto some 40 years earlier.
The most underrated sonata ever
Most of Bortkiewicz's music is some of the most underrated music ever for that matter, at least in my opinion.
I agree 100000%
But also: Second Sonata for Piano by Fartien Valen.
It's rated just as it deserves.
@@Pogouldangeliwitz What do you mean precisly?
24:14 what a wonderful climax!
Indeed
Love it! Such a delightful moment in the piece
That’s what she said!
He really did love to imitate other composers and add his own style. One piece and I hear Rach 3's 2nd Mov, Grieg's Peer Gynt (Aese's Death), Chopin's Berceuse and other themes I can't remember right now but that I've already definitely heard. Like W.H. Davenport Adams once said, "Great poets imitate and improve, whereas small ones steal and spoil.", same goes for music.
The main theme of the first movement is partly a quote from the main theme of Tchaikovsky's "Manfred" Symphony.
Immature artists imitate. Mature artists steal.-Lionel Trilling
This is the late late late Romantic version of the meme-like videos "Happy birthday in the style of 8 classical composers".
“Good artist take inspiration. Great artist steal” -Stravinsky
4:13
4:39
note for myself. unforgettable melody
that's lifted from kalinnikov's 1st symphony, which you should check out
yeah I noticed the similarity as well. though I have to admit a slight bias towards the piano
0:13 - the first theme from etude “La Brunne”, op.29-3
0:50 - again
1:09 - the second theme from op.29-3
1:26 - Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No.2, op.18
1:38 - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No.1, op.23
1:57 - Taneev - Prelude and fugue, op.29
2:50 - Chopin - Piano Concerto No.2, op.21
This is the best thing I have ever heard in my live
So it's the first
I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this beautiful sonata while I was quite new to classical music. After having listened to much of Bortkiewicz music for solo piano I found his first concerto. Before that I hadn’t listened through a whole concerto because I lacked the concentration, but his op 16 was just so amazing. I usually only listened to single movements of long pieces but after hearing how amazing a longer piece can be when in its complete form I learned to listen to many great concertos, symphonies and sonatas. Bortkiewicz music has changed my abilities to understand musical context and harmony and I will forever be grateful to him.
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I've been losing my mind for some time but that darkly sunny music, among many others, helps me to float, to keep my head above water💥
I love how he uses the first Motiv in every movement. He's such a genius.
It’s also the main motif in his Etude op 29 No 3 :)
Listen to Richard Clayderman. You will be killed by such a genius
And c minor concerto for left hand also
@@jackcurley1591 YEEES! I’m played that etude
It's the first thing you learn as a composer
The Allegretto is so wonderful!
Measure 30 sounds great👍
It's been a while since I came across a piece that moved me so much that I had to start learning it straight away. This is an absolutely wonderful piece.
Agreed 100%.
Two months down and I've completed the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th movements! Time to tackle that beast of a 1st movement
@@doritodog6242 Nice!
I would love to play this piece but I don’t think I will be able to learn a full sonata as the longest pice I’ve played yet is only 8 minutes. One day I will play this though
@@doritodog6242 Did you ever finish it?
I. Allegro ma non troppo - C# minor - 0:12
II. Allegretto - C# minor 8:20
III. Andante misericordioso - C# major 14:02
IV. Agitato - C# minor 22:35
Thank You!
Thank You, Maestro!
He COOKED omg! Both the composer and performer did fantastic with this
i think what makes me enjoy it so much are the „unexpected“ chord combinations quite everywhere. like you expect a certain chord but a completely different is played, but it somehow sounds good.
Makes the music sound interesting and alive
Grande sonata,grande prestazione ! Il finale in tonalità maggiore è semplicemente stupendo ed eroico.Bravo.
Ottimo post!
Thank you for bringing this composition to light. An impressive piece of music. Much appreciated.
Чудовий украінський композитор! На жаль, мало відомій украінському суспільству. Тепер повертається на батьківщину. Велика подяка всім виконавцям!
Чому він український! Що в ньому українського?
What a sublime 3rd movement. Otherworldly! Serendipity! Sheer pulchritude! What a melodist! 🎼😇👌
A fantastic, beautiful and powerful performance by Jouni Somero. Thank you for posting this.
Another awesome upload of somebody I would probably never have heard of. I love your channel Azur. You and the others who upload this music for us. Thank you.
I love playing it so much
Fantastic! 🤩🤩🤩
Piano has lovely tone.
Breathtaking Performance !……… Genius Pianist....A la Horowitz 📣📣📣📣
Thank you so much
It is so enjoyable to play, I love this sonata
Just finished learning it last week. Such a beautiful piece, especially the 1st movement. I love it!
Beautiful✨👍💓🎶
A fantastic piece of music! It creates some other worldly emotions and is full of these wonderfully contrasting moments of beauty and darkness!!!
Thanks to a pianist on CZcams called Claire Black and her recording of his Eros, I've been introduced to Bortkiewicz. This little gem of a sonata has played on repeat the last few days. I'm finding that it's typical of his quality. He really is an overlooked composer.
Puissante cette pièce. .
Who else noticed Brahm's Rhapsody no. 2 in the 2nd mvt of this sonata? 👁️
Also The Death of Aase from Grieg's Peer Gynt.
Вторая часть божественна!!!
Thank you for making a score video for this sonata. I couldn't find any and was hoping I wouldn't have to make one myself!
Last movement is reminiscing a lot from variation 18 in Rach's Rhapsody
Bar 60 reminds Chopin piano concerto, this sonata is so beautiful
It’s like a quote from his piano concerto 2. I was thinking the same thing
The 4th note of bar 76 reminds the 6th note of bar 165 of Beethoven's Kreutzer sonata
ah... 317 likes and 0 dislikes. fully deserved, this sonata is one of his best achievements
NOW PPL GONNA DISLIKE >:(
How wonderfully played this beautiful Sonata no: 2 Jouni. 👍🌷🌷🌷 (Holland)
Thank You😊
1:24 sounds like Rach 2 1st mvmt 1st theme!!
Never heard ov him. This quite good music.
Glorious Finale, wonderful Sonata and "Boo!" to the naysayers. I cannot recall a single performance by - take your pick - Cliburn, Horowitz, Gould, Wang, etc - that I've not read, "Well, they did miss the d sharp on measure 234" or "The accented notes should have been more pronounced" or even "Uninspired". It just burns me up knowing the effort and time entailed. OK, this is not a Lyaponov transcendental etude but so what? Bravo.
Not going to dislike this great upload, but reading the score makes me realise that the pianist could actually have done an even better job. He probably plays through thousands of pieces every year.
Yeah, Somero is productive as hell, he has recorded the complete piano works of many failry unknown composers
I suppose he's set himself the task of making lesser-known music available to us in audio format and perhaps compromised perfection slightly in the process. I'd love to hear another pianist take this on and see if they can produce something better - although I can't say I think this performance is bad at all!
I even think my handling is much better than his…I didn't find something I was willing to learn from in this version.
A little sloppy playing, but I don't mind the imperfections. He gets the point across, and I fully enjoyed it!
13:34 Oh, I like that! Sounds heroic!
very good
4th movement sounds like a mix of scriabin etude op 8 no 3 and 4th movement of his 3rd sonata
I've heard some criticisms of this composer. I hear a lot of derivations in his music (Chopin, Rach, Greig, etc), but now I wonder if this was intentional? How could it not be? After listening to the music more carefully, this is very good. It's different enough and the composer clearly has his own voice where the derivations seem like intentional tributes.
But I'm not sure, what do you think? Was the composer aware or unaware of utilizing Chopin's motif from his Piano Concerto 2 in F, Rach's theme from his Piano Concerto 2, or Grieg's theme from Peer Gynt Suite?
Bortkiewicz was spiritually very close to his more popular colleagues, also given his background. So, as you interestingly pointed out, it is a remarkable gesture that we should rather interpret as a loving tribute
All of the quotes in this sonata are so tastefully done and don't feel stolen, I'm sure it's intentional and it's absolutely brilliant
The 3rd movement has a quote from the fourth movement of Rachmaninoff's Fantaisie-Tableaux (1st Suite for 2 Pianos)
Actually, that might just be an Orthodox chant tune that they both used
@@richg5351 Indeed. The score in the video acknowledges this. (Russian Easter Hymn.)
Very beautiful I hear Rahmaninov in it. Do you too?
4:12 😍
rach 2 1st movement at 1:23
Touches of his own 2nd piano concerto but with different accompaniment
действительно красивая соната, некоторые моменты создают впечатление, что слушаешь Рахманинова. Интересно наблюдать рахманиновские приемы в музыке этого композитора. Главная тема отдаленно напоминает "Манфреда" Чайковского, а именно мотив (фа#-до#-ре-ми-си-до#-ре-си - у Чайковского) соль#-ре#-ми-фа#-до#-ре#-ми
Напев "Христос Воскресе" в 3 части поразителен.
соната винятково українського характеру)
@@olexandrselyaninoff8881 Actually, Bortkiewicz is known for borrowing some themes made by Rachmaninoff or Medtner. But it is clear that Bortkiewicz is an amazing composer, and while not the most original, one of my favorites for sure.
The first motif of this sonata is the same as that of his Prelude in C-sharp minor which was written around 20 years prior:
czcams.com/video/yAqiUxhRY3s/video.html
The very beginning sounds like of of his Etudes
2:49 theme is so beautiful, that change from Eb to F7 is really beautiful and innovative.
Although I really like this part, I also heard it in Chopin's seconde piano concerto at around 7 minutes in the first movement ;)
Beautiful. Hints of Rachmaninoff.
2:49
This reminds me of that one part in the first movement of Chopin's F minor Concerto.
Do you like more first or second sonata?
1:25
2:50
23:40
24:13
4:12
4:13 I thought of un barque Sur l'ocean for a second
Bortkiewicz: I paid for all the keys so I‘m gonna use them all!
20:10 I have been waiting for that resolution to I M79 (Db major with major seventh and ninth) for the whole 3rd mov and it didn't happen...
It‘s romantic music, not jazz… the tonic is almost exclusively 1-3-5 chords, sometimes a sixth.
Sounds like Cesar Cui.
Thanks! Please Upload Czerny Op.145
At around 17-18 minutes the pedal sounds are really loud and distracting.
what „tutta forza“ means: how much force? ALL THE FORCE!!
"Tutta forza" means "with the elbow".
Да ну, вполне вторичная музыка
4:03-4:06 that sounded like part of La la land's main theme LOL
Такая потрясающе красивая соната!так "пахнет"Рахманиновым
First theme is right out of Tchaikovsky’s manfred symphony
start sounds a lot like his third etude "the brunette"
1:25 ayy its rach
1:49 i heard liszt
2:49 also chopin
4:39 sheesh even kalinnikov
Do i hear a direct quote from Rachmaninov?
Sounds as if Rachmaninov bit Tchaikovsky's hand (or something else) and the latter was very inspired by this. This is obviously an epoch-making thing!
Рахманиновым веет от сонаты.
It's funny how out of place those fully diminished chords at measure 3 sound. Beethoven ruined them for me then silent movies put the nail in the coffin for every using fully diminished chords again (especially arpeggiated). It sounds like Rachmaninoff until those small lapses in judgement remind you it is not. Still, there is something charmingly odd about this piece, like the way it just jumps right in as if in the middle of a piece from the start.
1:49 Liszt piano concerto #2
Hi again
@@MyPianoArchives hi
Un the minute 3 uses a similar chords as rachmaninnof
That's wonderfull
look like Rachmaninoff
N. II sounds like Brahms’s rapsody
It's a bit surprising that he borrowed so liberally from Rachmaninov.
How difficult is this piece?
I'd say def not easy but doable...
1:24-1:30 Heavy Rachmoninoff 2nd piano concerto influence hahah
Scriabin
Measure 29 et seq. rips off Rachmaninoff so shamelessly, I abandoned this turgid bore and went over to R's second concerto. I came back only to find measure 60 cribs from Chopin. Shlocky hack work.
I think it's less theft and more quotation. Bort (I hate this abbreviation) uses these quotes within his own style, and each quote actually confirms to his motifs. I think it's perfectly fine, not shameless ripping off
Wonderful sonata! At bar 30 has stolen a bit from Rach :)
Marco Zuccarato yeah I heard that too 😁
@@ChristovanRensburg not stolen. Paraphrased.
You cant steal music.
It just makes you more a genius, If you take a Part of a melody and put it in your own original piece of music
First movement is built on themes from Tchaikovsky's Manfred, Rach 2 and Chopin 2
More than a hint of Rachmaninov 😏
Jouni Somero has the merit of having recorded Bortkiewicz's complete works. But his technique is really limited. Many of Bortkiewicz's works lack precision and clarity, especially in the sonatas, Midnight, etc.
How is his technique limited?
@@leomiller2291 Listen to his wrong notes
Ok, i'm waiting for your performance 😊😆
@@thebatman6991 Aren't you tired of always saying the same thing? Whenever someone criticizes, it's always the same: can you do better? I'm only expressing a point of view that can be shared. To do better or worse is not the question...
@@beecolor Don't waste time answering to this guy. He isn't worth
You've just seen and felt the leaves and detritus of the 19th century die . Thank Goodness now go listen to Boulez 2nd Sonata and CarlVine 's 1st Sonata . This makes me realize the genius of Rachmaninoff . Bortkiewicz is trite .Amazing he hwas taken seriously as a composer .
Some of his etudes are very listenable (Katsaris recorded a whole album of them). The thing is: they're too short to get boring, if not even plain bad. Which obviously isn't the case of this sonata: it's roughly 24 minutes too long.
2. movement: The Death of Aase by Grieg. OMG, and I'm afraid that the composer didn't realize
When Rachmaninov (if he had a stroke) meets Clayderman
Rachmaninoff always meets Clayderman i m sorry, SBorkiewitz doesn t😆😆
@@thebatman6991 If you want to provoke - ok. If not, you have my compassion
it sounds like rachmaninov ....too often ...the music lacks of genuin character...unfortunately...
Hush now… 🤫💩