E106-B: Jim Keltner on "Josie", Jeff Porcaro & Click Tracks!
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2023
- During this excerpt from Live From My Drum Room, the legendary Jim Keltner talks about his epic drum part on Steely Dan's iconic track, "Josie" the late great Jeff Porcaro and playing with a click track. Watch for a future episode of TrackTalk With Jim Keltner.
Watch the entire episode • E106: Live From My Dru... and please subscribe to @livefrommydrumroom! - Hudba
Great interview with Jim.
Wow, Jim is so real in the stories he tells. There are only a handful of living drummers I would want to meet for coffee regularly (excuse my fantasy here) to discuss drumming and music. Ringo, Gregg Bissonette and Jim top my list.
Thank you, John for these great interviews you always do. I recently discovered your channel and it really brings me great joy to see these videos. It’s the closest thing to having great drummers over for coffee. Bravo!
Thanks, Doug. I'm glad you enjoyed it and appreciate your kind words. I agree about Jim. That's why I call him the Jedi Master. 🙂
This is fantastic John. Please keep on interviewing these drumming legends!
Treasure for real.
What an awesome interview
Keltner is one of the true GOATS. Love the guy's humility, too.
Pure gold here. I had to pause and listen to Josie to hear that trash can cover with bias. Gotta love the creative spontaneity with these guys. Keltner is legend.
Tulsa born legend. Great interview
What a down to earth guy, Jim. Love the quirkiness of Josie, thanks to Fagen, I'm sure! As an aside, when I did my drumming gigs in the Santa Fe area, I was able to meet with Ian Wallace. Another great guy, loved his feel on the kit when I saw him, and he returned the favor by seeing me doing my gig as well. I will forever cherish his musicianship. May he rest in peace.
Completely OT, but since this is a Drum channel... Jethro Tull skins man, Gerry Conway has passed due to complications of ALS. I was not happy to read this, and always loved his work for Tull. He was my Dad's age. Wasn't sure if you guys had already heard...
I'm so relieved to hear that no drummers were harmed in the recording of this 😅
Just another example of a world class human being and musician who is humble ,decent and not the least bit pretentious considering all that Mr Jim Keltner has achieved and earned over the decades of his career ! To have been asked to work and play with some of the finest songwriters and musicians ever ,says an incredible amount about the respect and admiration they all have had for Mr Keltner's gifts ... I know for a fact that his best work is still ahead of him ...All the best from Scotland !
I couldn't agree more. Jim is a precious gift to the world! Thanks for watching! 🙏❤️
'You're Jim Keltner!' ... nail on the he'd as they say. The master himself.
More great stuff John with Jim K. and, all these iconic "players, songs and insight" regarding the most awesome "MUSIC" that has been created!!!
I remember working out "Josie" on my Fender Rhodes, many years ago. Watching this interview, I am remembering how IMPORTANT that album was! I never say OMG but ... OMG!
Thank you for a great interview! Simply amazing!
The Musicians Hall Of Fame in Nashville is what Jim was searching for.
Unreal….he’s as much a good person as he is a drummer. People’s ethnic background/roots fascinates me. I saw him interviewed and he said he is from Tulsa and i can’t recall exactly but he’s either part Cherokee Indian or Mexican..but whatever it is he really comes across as a warm, just a down to earth guy.
This is a gr8 sheeeeeeew John! Like Ed Sullivan would say. Such great drummers on your program! Keltner is awesome and Rick Marotta was right about the click about not hearing it so he knew he was in unison with it. Josie is a great tune and that is really Steely Dan’s true sound. Jim is very personable and humble. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes for continued success with this YT channel. We’ll be watching.
I'm such a huge Keltner fan that I'm almost positive he hears that fact ringing in his ears! I just heard him on a track from the new Lana Del Rey record.
Thank you John…Jim, you are true and The Real Deal 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Another great interview. Jim you're the best. Thanks John
Zac Starkey ?
Great interview !
Great interview
I'm not a drummer but found this interview extremely interesting and insightful. Ty
Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 🙏❤️
This was fantastic. Like so many others, I grew up listening to this album, and hearing those now-legendary tunes on the radio on a regular basis. It's amazing the lasting impact that album has had. No wonder we were all so taken by it at the time. Josie is yet another track whose details don't reveal themselves until you really, _really_ listen. The drum part is deceptively intricate, unconventional and unpredictable. It was really insightful to hear just how micromanaged some of those parts were by Fagen himself. And after Jim's explanation of that snare drum, the sound on that track makes so much sense. Great interview, John!
John, this is a magnificent interview, I am a Spanish musician and during the pandemic, I have seen some interesting interviews with Jim Keltner and no one ask him about the period of more than 10 albums that he recorded with Ry Cooder and sound engineer Lee Herschberg at the decade of the 70s, I consider them authentic jewels of the so-called Americana music, the combination of drums with acoustic guitar or Indian tables. I think that all those records perfectly define his genuine contribution with the drums. Thanks so much.
21:50 "Donald Fagen is a genius." Never a truer word spoken!
Podcasts are phenomenal 🎉
For sure watched that episode…great interview !
Great! Glad you enjoyed it and thank you! 🙏❤️
After extensively figuring out this drum track work and wondering why a drummer would do it this way, I'm now very relieved to hear Jim say this was "crazy shit" lol, and Fagen's methods served it well.. plus Ludwig ROCKS!! a vista-lite snare, wow..
That was great.
You are a fantastic person who is humble enough to keep some of your guests egos in check and keep them talking it is a great skill you have
Thank you very much for the kind words. 🙏♥
Love this John! Thanks to you and Jim for this great info! ❤
Love it 👍🏼
Great little interview. Good to see that the challenges are at the top of the game as well as the bottom. 25 minutes in the best advice. LISTEN to each other as well as the part. Be well.
Thanks. Check out the entire episode. 🙏❤️
@@livefrommydrumroom I did I think. I was grazing around my own posts checking up a song arrangement and I spotted this. Keltner is always worth checking out. Not disappointed. Never seen him interviewed before. There is something you might know. Years ago in some music magazine back page (and I forget if it's Keltner or Gordon) I saw a studio production map for Layla (orig. Clapton) which had the tom parts and the crashes marked as overdubs to the main snare bass hat tracks. Never seen it since and wondered if it was a spoof or a faulty memory. Always sounded fairly dense / hot recording of live band at the time. I work very low key around Liverpool. My best advice to "low key" drummers, if the band keep talking metronomes then record everything, rehearsals, gigs. If you sound steady the band stops asking. Metronomes are for practise, timed shows and commercial TV recordings and EVERYONE should have one in their monitors not just the drummer.
John love these shows! Any chance of getting a bass player, like a Leland Sklar, to talk about playing with famous drummers and what made the tracks work?
yes
Nobody shoved a click around better than Jeff P.!
this was great
You're really on a roll, John! I'm loving the SD bias in your choice of drummers. One of D&W's great skills (and there were many) was to be able to choose exactly the right musician for a particular track. Who would be most suitable for this track? Keltner? Gadd? Marotta?
I only found your channel recently and haven't been through the back catalog yet, but have you done anything with Bernard Purdie? He's 83 now.
I enjoyed that!
However, the reason I watched this video because I was trying to see if I could get in touch with Jim - my father (www.youtube.com/@allanpraskin8688 ) played with him back in the jazz days (they were both living in LA at that time), and Jim used to record sessions they played together on a real-to-reel tape deck.
Allan would like to hear those recordings if they still exist, particularly since they were jamming with Albert Stinson on bass. I wonder if you could ask him about that. Or perhaps just reconnect them for a phone call or so. 🙂
I’ll pass the message on to Jim. 👍 And thanks for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed it. 🙏❤️
All respect at 16:08 keltner describes the part where the band Holds for 4 beats he comes back ta ta ta TA 2x not the 1/4 note triplet to 1/2 time to the git solo your singing
was that the track that used a small rimshot on?
With any instrument, including vocals at times, once you get BEHIND on a click, in order to eventually be back ON with it, you have to at some point be pushing forward and should you have a song that retards more than once forget about it, you're now deeper in a hole that will demand you push even harder to catch up. That said, if there is an opportunity to push after you have fallen back, ok, that's fine but that is most definitely NOT the case in many circumstances. Jeff Porcaro had a weird bag of tricks that he could pull from to make a push not SEEM like he was getting ahead of the current meter. Unless you have those ingrained abilities I would advise NOT trying to follow in his footsteps. Of course, what many forget about Jeff is that most of his recordings were made FOR HIRE and performed for people who were strictly pros writing for pros and in that circle they weren't being progressive or artsy AT ALL but attempting to hit the radio with solid finger tapping on the steering wheel beats for those traffic jams around LA, ie musical fodder specifically tailored to fill the gaps between advertisements for new and used car sales, soap, a local tv station's evening ''news''. Don't pretend like the word INDUSTRY doesn't imply mechanical, heartless, industrial output for monetary gain. Jeff Porcaro wasn't Banksy.
all us drummers heard these stories...if you have Gadd, DONT ask about Aja ...again...dig deeper.
I've had Steve on several episodes of Live From My Drum Room where we talked about a lot of different things. TrackTalk was specific to Aja, but I know a lot of this has been covered. Check out the other episodes with Steve and thanks for watching! 🙏👍
While I agree with you, I’ve thought about how this could improve. John does a fantastic job with getting his friends to speak with him online. I wondered if we could find a way to ask questions that haven’t been asked. Then a memory came to me when I attended a Steve Gadd clinic. When it came time for the Q&A, some of the questions asked were so off-the-wall odd, and had nothing to do with drumming. Let’s face it....some who attend these type of clinics aren’t all there. It wouldn’t be fair to John to have to pour through the amount of questions before an interview. By the way - you can’t beat the price of watching these. Keep up the great work, John. Much appreciated.
They don't come any cooler than Keltner.
Yeah the guitars and drums are hitting that same weird groove.
Have worked with JK several times. He’s God.