Alberto Mielgo Interview: Love, Death & Robots Volume 3
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- "Jibaro" director Alberto Mielgo talks about crafting his unique siren story in the third volume of Netflix's animated anthology, Love, Death & Robots.
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Jibaro will be studied in cinematography and CGI production
True.
I am already showing it to my screenwriting students.
@@lbuscani Learning that this had nothing to do with the Taino actually is actually upsetting. The woman’s feature and face paint look Taino. And the gold in the river again reminiscent of Taino and the Spaniard looking people trying to take it and kill her again. Taino. But somehow he said it’s about a toxic mother relationship. It’s upsetting because it’s clearly inspired by the story of what happened to the taino whether or not it’s about it is a different story. And the guy is Spanish from Spain. It’s borderline disrespectful. Look up taino women and you’ll see the red and blue face paint with similar features and skin color. The story of taino is how we were butchered for our gold they try to say no there was no gold but that’s a lie the Americas were filled with gold why do you think they still find ship wreaks till this day around the Caribbean with gold coins. It’s disrespectful that the woman clearly looks taino and the men clearly look like conquistadors and the creator is from Spain. That’s corny and I usually don’t care about this shit like I don’t even care if anyone cosplays as an indigenous person I don’t see it as disrespectful but to create an entire story that is reminiscent of what your country did to an indigenous group and have the audacity to call it “jibaro” and come out and say “it’s about a toxic mother” is OD corny
Jibaro is a masterpiece! Amazing work! Music, sounds, movements, choreography, textures, absolutely stunning!
I want to see a full movie like that, would be awesome
Learning that this had nothing to do with the Taino actually is actually upsetting. The woman’s feature and face paint look Taino. And the gold in the river again reminiscent of Taino and the Spaniard looking people trying to take it and kill her again. Taino. But somehow he said it’s about a toxic mother relationship. It’s upsetting because it’s clearly inspired by the story of what happened to the taino whether or not it’s about it is a different story. And the guy is Spanish from Spain. It’s borderline disrespectful. Look up taino women and you’ll see the red and blue face paint with similar features and skin color. The story of taino is how we were butchered for our gold they try to say no there was no gold but that’s a lie the Americas were filled with gold why do you think they still find ship wreaks till this day around the Caribbean with gold coins. It’s disrespectful that the woman clearly looks taino and the men clearly look like conquistadors and the creator is from Spain. That’s corny and I usually don’t care about this shit like I don’t even care if anyone cosplays as an indigenous person I don’t see it as disrespectful but to create an entire story that is reminiscent of what your country did to an indigenous group and have the audacity to call it “jibaro” and come out and say “it’s about a toxic mother” is OD corny
Agreed
Jibaro and The Witness by far my favorites episodes of the whole series.
Yeah, beautiful and inspiring masterpieces!!
I agree, nothing like it
And both made by the same studio and director, they are amazing!
both designed by alberto🤩
It floored me when he said they animated it by hand without mo cap. WOOW!
I simply refuse to believe that 🤣
Absolutely ridiculously insanely unbelievably incredible.
Who cares what tools were used? It's the end result that counts. I feel that if he purposely refused to use mocap, he has wasted some resources, because for quite a few shots mocap would've sufficed as a base to work from.
There was some mocap used for the extras, but the main characters were key-framed. It was both an artistic and strategic choice; Alberto prefers key-framed animation stylistically, and the work the animation team had to do to clean up the mocap out-weighed the work it would take to just key-frame from reference videos (getting my info from an interview with the animation leads)
@@isyfrisco yep. they tried for background and extras but it didn't feel right as well according to the interview.. so key-frame animation all the way. amazing.
Alberto prefers key-frame animation bcos it also makes the animators express or use their skills and artistry more.
Watched Jibaro 20-30 times already!
Me too! On constant repeat. This is one of the most beautiful pieces I have ever watched in my life. It’s perfection.. From the story, cinematography and the choreography. It is an absolute masterpiece. Definitely going to win some awards! I’ve watched it at least 10 times since last night. I highly recommend this series as a whole (a gem) but this episode was by far the best of the 3 seasons!!
Me too bro and i edit some of the videos
Jibaro is literally the best animated film I have ever seen, Mielgo is a genius
I just watched it again with headphones in complete darkness! Oh man this is something else! I just hope projects like "love death and robots" will expand and we can see more of this art form!
never heard of Alberto Mielgo, but had to look up who made the Jibaro, one of the most amazing visual feat and camera work. I was mesmerized. amazing work. Thank you for keep making amazing work. should be in a museum one day soon. inspired.
He directed also a Nice One Episode in Vol 1, and was the Person who Designed Most of Spiderverse, also this year won the Oscar to animated short.
@@VITOLLFOTOGRAFIA The Witness won him a emmy for Outstanding Short Form Animated Program, won a Best Animated Short Film oscar for The Windshield Wiper, work on Tron: Uprising as a Art Director, directed a short for Watch Dogs Legion, was a Production Designer/Art Director for Sony's Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and he created an early animation test for the film befor he left!
Learning that this had nothing to do with the Taino actually is actually upsetting. The woman’s feature and face paint look Taino. And the gold in the river again reminiscent of Taino and the Spaniard looking people trying to take it and kill her again. Taino. But somehow he said it’s about a toxic mother relationship. It’s upsetting because it’s clearly inspired by the story of what happened to the taino whether or not it’s about it is a different story. And the guy is Spanish from Spain. It’s borderline disrespectful. Look up taino women and you’ll see the red and blue face paint with similar features and skin color. The story of taino is how we were butchered for our gold they try to say no there was no gold but that’s a lie the Americas were filled with gold why do you think they still find ship wreaks till this day around the Caribbean with gold coins. It’s disrespectful that the woman clearly looks taino and the men clearly look like conquistadors and the creator is from Spain. That’s corny and I usually don’t care about this shit like I don’t even care if anyone cosplays as an indigenous person I don’t see it as disrespectful but to create an entire story that is reminiscent of what your country did to an indigenous group and have the audacity to call it “jibaro” and come out and say “it’s about a toxic mother” is OD corny
The name Jibaro is a term used to describe puertorrican natives. When the island was found by the conquistadors they found that the rivers were full of gold and so to obtain this, they used the Taínos os the island. They abused and murdered the natives in their efforts to obtain the stolen resources. And so this “siren” of this episode represents the gold and the Taínos that were murdered by the Spanish. I think this episode spoke well for itself, no description needed.
Learning that this had nothing to do with the Taino actually is actually upsetting. The woman’s feature and face paint look Taino. And the gold in the river again reminiscent of Taino and the Spaniard looking people trying to take it and kill her again. Taino. But somehow he said it’s about a toxic mother relationship. It’s upsetting because it’s clearly inspired by the story of what happened to the taino whether or not it’s about it is a different story. And the guy is Spanish from Spain. It’s borderline disrespectful. Look up taino women and you’ll see the red and blue face paint with similar features and skin color. The story of taino is how we were butchered for our gold they try to say no there was no gold but that’s a lie the Americas were filled with gold why do you think they still find ship wreaks till this day around the Caribbean with gold coins. It’s disrespectful that the woman clearly looks taino and the men clearly look like conquistadors and the creator is from Spain. That’s corny and I usually don’t care about this shit like I don’t even care if anyone cosplays as an indigenous person I don’t see it as disrespectful but to create an entire story that is reminiscent of what your country did to an indigenous group and have the audacity to call it “jibaro” and come out and say “it’s about a toxic mother” is OD corny
@@thechildfromthevillage I definitely got the colonization critique right off the bat. But as a woman who has had many a toxic partner, I felt a universal pain by the siren being exploited by a man. Specifically after she lets her guard down in a desire to become intimate--only to be brutalized and stripped of her riches. Perhaps there are many personal feelings we can project onto a piece of art. I agree, though, that it is odd that the creator didn't see it from a colonization perspective. Perhaps it is because he is a descendent of a colonizer.
@@lolitabubbles26 I’m going to have to stop you there. I get art can be viewed in many ways but this CLEARLY inspired by the colonization of the Taino. Anything can be perceived any way if we look for it. but an indigenous looking woman being chased than brutalized by a conquistador looking man for her gold in treasure that was found in a river does not sit well with me at all. Naming the soldier “jibaro” which is a term exclusive to Puerto Rico. The real jibaro in this would be the woman. Than they call her a siren and the knight the hero making her this seductress. Well as a woman can you understand the only reason people like me are surviving with Taino blood is because Spaniard like him raped our Taino women. It’s not just a critique. I wouldn’t be nearly as mad if he would give even a bit of recognition to what really inspired it when it’s clear as day to anyone who knows about the Taino and the original story of why they were colonized
I’m not so sure this has anything to do with colonisation, the forest seems to be very European as does the birds and the weather. The imagery also borrows heavily from the 18th century romantic paintings from Europe, right down to the gold and silver leaf, in many ways it’s not even clear it’s based in our universe, as there wasn’t a crucifix in sight, and the priests have robes that look more Eastern Orthodox than Spanish in inspiration.
As for the interpretation that the conquistador was pursuing the siren for her gold, it’s arguably more likely that he is simply a knight from a romantic fairy tale in full plate, not a conquistador from history. There were some knights dressed in a slightly more conquistador style of armour, but not definitively so, much like the siren, and the priests, the armour seems to draw inspiration from several eras and cultures.
Also, you seem to ignore the siren attacked the company first, using her song and her dance to drive the knights and priests mad with desire, until they either killed each other in a mad jealous lust, or drowned trying to reach her first. Seeing this sirens magic and what it did to his friends caused the knight to flee in panic from her, he certainly didn’t seem to be interested in returning, at least not until she pursued him, apparently because his resistance to her deadly call aroused her. It was only after she came to him in his sleep, and seduced him with dance when he woke that her magic started to work and his obsession with her golden scales overcame his terror.
It’s easy in this modern world to frame everything as part of the big ticket arguments, of which colonisation and patriarchal sexual aggression are two of the biggest, but sometimes it’s ok just to let great art dwell in the small and uncomfortable spaces, where there is no clear line between good and bad, let the art have the room it needs to breath and exist on its own merits.
Lastly the producer himself has talked about how the story of siren and the knight represent the tragedy of a toxic relationship, and how he has drawn in parts of his own toxic behaviour in relationships, as both the knight and the siren, I suspect we would be better served to treat his assessment the primary interpretation.
@@thechildfromthevillage Gonna go out on a limb here, and say, it was deliberately speaking to all three of those points of view:
-Colonisation aspect is as clear as day.
-The woman being violently stripped of her jewels, after seductively dancing on front of the knight - clearly highlighting exploitation.
-The director's own personal relationships - how their goals do not align - and the heavy emphasis of temptation.
It is no one factor that is being highlighted here, but all three.
What Spain did to the Taino, is beyond fucked up. That goes w/o saying. Pretty sure he was deliberately nose-and-cheek with the Spain-Taino parallel, but because he's the descendent of Spaniards, and is a rich writer, he doesn't care too much about that element. He's moreso focussed on how this parallels with his own personal relationships.
Jibaro was the most unique thing I’ve seen in a while
Care to share the most unique thing you saw before Jibaro?
Im just fascinated with this episode, the dance moves, the sound, the images, the decolonial critics... everything is perfect! The "atabey" girl is so impressive, I mean, she has totally entered in my deep mind, like an image from a dream... idk is amazing
Damn, this short gave one of the best impressions of psychedelic perception shock ever, pushed the boundaries of taste in modern art, showed many parallel narratives at once and the interviewer keeps talking about physics simulation and realistic animation. I mean, nothing against the guy and the technology is mindbending here, but it's a shame that there wasn't a recognition of what kind of aesthetic rave savagery happened in this piece of art.
Very very good point.
Seems like he's trying to show off his knowledge of animation.
Jibaro is just astonishing.
this is an absolute masterpiece. what a wonder. the story, the rythm of the history... the characters, the ost, the cgi! waoh....
I cannot believe what i've just seen. Felicidades Alberto, se me han saltado las lágrimas
If there is an award that Jibaro is qualified for then it deserves it. Thank you for Mr. Mielgo for this.
This short is haunting me, the closest thing to pure art I ever witnessed! I was caught instantly and mesmerized for the whole thing! The layers, the movements, so wild so raw!!! Tank you Alberto!
Learning that this had nothing to do with the Taino actually is actually upsetting. The woman’s feature and face paint look Taino. And the gold in the river again reminiscent of Taino and the Spaniard looking people trying to take it and kill her again. Taino. But somehow he said it’s about a toxic mother relationship. It’s upsetting because it’s clearly inspired by the story of what happened to the taino whether or not it’s about it is a different story. And the guy is Spanish from Spain. It’s borderline disrespectful. Look up taino women and you’ll see the red and blue face paint with similar features and skin color. The story of taino is how we were butchered for our gold they try to say no there was no gold but that’s a lie the Americas were filled with gold why do you think they still find ship wreaks till this day around the Caribbean with gold coins. It’s disrespectful that the woman clearly looks taino and the men clearly look like conquistadors and the creator is from Spain. That’s corny and I usually don’t care about this shit like I don’t even care if anyone cosplays as an indigenous person I don’t see it as disrespectful but to create an entire story that is reminiscent of what your country did to an indigenous group and have the audacity to call it “jibaro” and come out and say “it’s about a toxic mother” is OD corny
The only other thing that has disarmed me in such a way that I can think of is Ari Asters work, Hereditary and Midsommar mainly. I feel I’ll be haunted by this for a while just as Hereditary haunted me.
@@forrestrichard8133 read my comment. The creator is benefiting off tragedy
Beautiful and Haunting. Incorporating dance into your story like this was genius.
i just finished Jibaro truly amazing inspiration art on another level !
I'm so moved by his work.. Can't wait to see more. Blows my mind.
The best damn animator ever, most peoble think he uses real actors and mo-cap... heck even the scenery is pure CGI.
Love Jibaro and Witness! Both beautiful shorts! Well done!
This guy is a genius
pure art and the best i´ve seen in years
The most talented director alive...great Team...amazing Job
There was a time I really hoped Chris Cunningham would have made Neuromancer, then perhaps Denis Villeneuve would have probably made a solid one, now, having seen both Witness and Jibaro, a Neuromancer movie made through his vision and style will be the most incredible adaptation I can imagine.
I adored and was mesmerized by Jibaro, congratulations, it was a masterpiece for me.
I honestly believe that Jibaro has/will inspire numerous people to become future animators for years to come.
what's cool about jibaro not just the concept and the crazy rendering, but the fact that he use another element of realism, that is sign language. How many people can really relate to that. The acting was good and its just......... the saddest twist in the end. i always wonder, what if instead of robbing her, he just walk away, will he live to tell the tale or will fate still have him in the same position.
The Witness in Season 1 blew my mind...but this...this Jibaro...blew me to outer space.
Kudos to the whole team that were involved in the production of this Wonderful Visual and audio feast.
Jibaro is AMAZING!!! INCREDIBILE.
I was really moved to tears over Jibaro. Wonderfully done.
Music, choreography, story - everything is amazing. Graphics is not even THE best part in all of this. Can’t wait music from this movie - that music have such emotional impact on me (especially classic part in the end). Thank you for this animation 💕
Search up kjartan sveinsson teil 1 thats the music
@@cibosan2414 thank you for that, am listining to this now :)
Best episode of all seasons!!!
Just the best of everything. Out of words.
Never seen anything like this before. Amazing!!!
Can’t believe this is the only interview
im obsessed with Jibaro
Best episode!
Alberto is an amazing artist.
JIBAROs MASTERPIECE.....
I swear, can’t believe those are keyframe not mocap
are there more segments to the interview? I would like to have heard more.
Jibaro hit me strongly, i was constantly asking is it real it is all 3D? Then it got me here, the power of siren lingers eh.
Amazing
Genius!
he is god of animation
Everybody in 3D knows this is like Matrix in 1999 that’s a new level. What I love about it is the emotional dimension. 3D was always accused of laking that dimension. It’s craaaaaaazy I love it
Interesting where the name Jibaro came from.
if Jibaro made in full movie 2 hrs I think it would be huge succuss as or more like Avatar
Jibaro is Amazing, it looks true, and about no mocap ? wow ....
Visionary 💯💯💯💓🙏🏽
People would talk about Jibaro for long time and making it as studied -material for Animation making.
I want a game with graphic like that^^and middle age is perfect for that^^
I just fell in love with the Jibero girl...Amazing design and visuals👌👌❤❤❤❤❤❤
okay okay, but the "dancing gold woman" is not 3d, right? I cant believe it. only her, I mean.
If he didn't use mocap then why are real life actors and motion capture stunt artists credited on imdb?
Watch the interview again
thanks for the interview!
I am thrilled to learn that the director meant to make this masterpiece as abstract as possible, so it may open for interpretation.
NICE!
That character animation wasn't mocap???????????????????????????????????????????? The dancing was so realistic and fluid I was sure it was impossible for it to have been keyframed!
Kingo
I didn't understand none of it. What is she supposed to be?
She’s a siren. In mythology Sirens lure men to their deaths with the sound of their voice.
Dude, this is not a 100% CG short. For some reason the interviewer thinks that, and Alberto just doesn't bother to correct him. If that were me as Alberto, I wouldn't randomly take credit for a jump forward in CGI bigger than every major player in the world for a 15 minute short film. Alberto, just own up that it was well done, but very clearly a well done hybrid of live action and CG accents. Come on now.
Exactly. Alberto looked like he didn't want to be doing the interview either. I'm getting the vibe that he's just required to do it, but has a ton of other shit he's gotta take care of instead so he doesn't really care about the questions.
TO MR. ALBERTO MIELGO:
STICK TO YOUR SPAIN, SPANISH TRADITIONS OF "ZARZUELAS", ETC., AND LEAVE THE PEOPLE OF THE CARIBBEAN'S CULTURES, LEYENDS, TRADITIONS ALONE - ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE, THE "JIBAROS" OF THE MOUNTAINEOUS REGIONS OF PUERTO RICO - UNTIL YOU LEARN THE TRUE MEANING OF THE WORD "JIBARO".
AND PLEASE PRONOUNCE THE WORD CORRECTLY, TOO!!!
Learning that this had nothing to do with the Taino actually is actually upsetting. The woman’s feature and face paint look Taino. And the gold in the river again reminiscent of Taino and the Spaniard looking people trying to take it and kill her again. Taino. But somehow he said it’s about a toxic mother relationship. It’s upsetting because it’s clearly inspired by the story of what happened to the taino whether or not it’s about it is a different story. And the guy is Spanish from Spain. It’s borderline disrespectful. Look up taino women and you’ll see the red and blue face paint with similar features and skin color. The story of taino is how we were butchered for our gold they try to say no there was no gold but that’s a lie the Americas were filled with gold why do you think they still find ship wreaks till this day around the Caribbean with gold coins. It’s disrespectful that the woman clearly looks taino and the men clearly look like conquistadors and the creator is from Spain. That’s corny and I usually don’t care about this shit like I don’t even care if anyone cosplays as an indigenous person I don’t see it as disrespectful but to create an entire story that is reminiscent of what your country did to an indigenous group and have the audacity to call it “jibaro” and come out and say “it’s about a toxic mother” is OD corny
Protect this man from woke community at all cost! Genius artists like him deserves a pass...
Honestly didn’t really like it for the lack of context and the exaggerated movements and at times it seemed super unrealistic and the characters looked weird. Idk tho just my opinion
I really wish she didnt have legs, a creature living in the water and walking is really unnatural. It would be better if she had large fins or a mermaid’s tail. Also the ending, if the blood water had healing properties, why did the guy go mad before the siren started singing. He acts more like he was poisoned and wants to vomit the blood out. A few logical bugs. And the siren’s “naked” body looks too much like a body suite made of fabric, layered with different materials too. The more I watch it, the more bugs I’m noticing.
Frogs. Salamanders. Crayfish. Crabs. Octopus. Lobsters. Turtles. Shrimp. Starfish. Otters. Beavers. Alligators. Crocodiles. I'm sure I could go on.
@@HarryBuddhaPalm now that her legs sound better, considering how bad it would be if you were on the team, but still legs not a good fit
Considering that he has been deaf for a long period of life, all these sounds was deafening and overwhelmed his perception, really breaking his sanity
he said the film was abstract.
@@yoanargote6359 you meant human legs are “ab”stract?