A severe lack of "Russian Bias" - T-72A - War Thunder
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- The T-72A may come off as a well rounded vehicles, though it can often come up as a tough nut to play, and in here, we find out the hard way how it plays in todays high tier environment.
00:00 - Twitch Highlight
00:35 - Intro/Overview
04:43 - Gameplay (Suffering)
21:50 - Conclusion
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Just unlocked this today. The tank is a lot better once you get some darts. I've loved the visual appearance of the T72 since I was a kid.
Honestly was never a big fan of the rounded turret I like what they did with the t90m and that is the only compliment the Russians are ever going to get from me
I've got to sit in a T-72 they are cooler in person
@@noname-vn7uf I can imagine! Though perhaps not when you’re sitting above a ring of ammunition
@@youwotmate7705 people say it's cramped, but it's not that bad (probably because I'm 5ft 7)
@@noname-vn7uf Haha for me, every tank is cramped
Instantly clicked, the T-72 is my favorite tank, can't miss a video on it! Thanks Justin
Glória ao Rio Grande do Sul!!!
A combination of 8.7-10.0 being by far the most compressed area in the game for Ground Forces in terms of vehicle capabilities and mobility being meta in RB, which the T-72 sucks at.
I used it a bunch of times when my brother forced me to play at 11.0 (US him, Russia me).
I was totally surprised that even using a T-72A, people aimed for my LFP constantly...he didn't understand but i do, how top tier turned to a muscle memory game.
Still, it was fun to use such tank even at 11.0, what APFSDS can't do HE surely does. At it BR isn't really that bad but for sure having both 2S25 and T-64B with more capable firepower and protection put in a little shadow the T-72A.
Wish 9.3 wasn't full of people constantly leaving after 1 death cus I do enjoy the T-72A so freaking much but at the same time avoid playing it cus while I know I can do well it's all in vain really. By the way, you need to revisit the ZTZ96, it's also been 2 years since you covered it!
welcome to the current state of Top tier ground RB
He covered it 4 months ago
@@frenchfry9735 I'm not talking about the 96 Prototype or the 96A, it's the 9.3 one which he hasn't covered it in 2 years.
@@raizencore ah ok
I would join you at 9.3 Since I bought turms and T55 (wallet warrior I know, don't worry I get 3 kills atleast) but I abandoned war thunder and never felt better
Actually, the TURMS does have the add-on 16mm plate that the A has
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T-72A isn't bad at all at its BR, but the constant uptiers to 10.0 premium hell kill it. It has no fighting chance against Abrams and Leo 2's.
Even in a full downtier the T-64BV at the same BR is better in everyway other than mobility. Better UFP, trolly Kontakt-1, 3BM42, LRF, and better turret and hull traverse speeds.
One simple reason to never play Soviets at 9.3. Night battles constantly with no thermals.
Yes on some maps a lack of thermals is disastrous even in daylight. No wonder they sell so many TURMS.
@@jetnavigator 8.7- 10.0 is now such a horrible power-crept BR bracket. That's all well and good, it sucks and it will never change. The fact, however, I have to oppose vehicles at night with no thermals only with Gaijins idea of what night vision is (a green filter) makes the T-72, 64 and many others completely obsolete. Hell, even the T-72B 1989 at 10.0 falls into this bracket. Literally nobody wants night battles. 9/10 it's a horrible experience across the board regardless of thermals, because when in 3rd person you can't see shit. The shitty flare or whatever it is that pops up for 10 seconds and then dissapears is not enough to justify playing them without f****** thermals!!! Just have the map constantly lit for christ sake.
@@Corellian_Smuggler if we want the map constantly lit, it may as well not be a night battle. No matter what, in order to make a night battle not shit it basically requires it to not be night. So in other words we want them to fucking remove them entirely please and thank you. No one likes them.
donno brub, not justifying night games because i also hate them, but its as simply as just leaving the match and play something else, not a solution but it allows me to skip shitty maps
@@ishiddddd4783 I wouldn’t do it myself, but Spookston does it so it’s not exactly uncommon
A tractor didn't come out of nowhere and steal your tank, totally unplayable
I really hate playing the t72a because when I capture a point 5 tractors come and try to steal my tank
@@sidsucksatplaying i hate playing russian top tier because i never have enough fuel to reach the caps.
I love playing Russian tanks, because I get to kill hohols.
@@sidsucksatplaying Just shoot the tractors for free kill points
@@sidsucksatplaying I hate playing Russian tanks........ and my turret has just popped off.
this intro was majestic, thank you Justin for bringing us this content
20:22 If we want to talk "historically accurate" this tank should have Mango.
There's also a "chunky" T-72A that was in the mid 1980s. This was probably more similar to a T-72B though.
@@taelorpickel2830 Not sure what you're talking about? There was the T-72 Ural, the original variant, which was quickly replaced by T-72A. T-72A had new turret composites, and later received additional hull armor to protect against the development of American APFSDS. There was no further domestic development of T-72A, as T-72B was just as cheap to make and entirely superior. T-72A lived on as the T-72M1 for export, and some foreign nations did develop the platform further as they were not given license to produce the T-72B, which saw very limited export before the Soviet collapse.
@@henryatkinson1479
The variant isn't too well known but extremely common in the Soviet Union in the '80s.
It's arguably a T-72B, as the T-72AV is just an T-72A with ERA, the T-72B is mostly known for having ERA, but there's a known ERA variant as well. People commonly call it a T-72A, like a T-72A 1984, so it's a fifty-fifty thing.
Look up T-72A Mod-1984 or T-72B without ERA. Kind of weird, and sorta derails what I said, but whatever.
@@taelorpickel2830 T-72AB was never an official designation until the 90s when T-72As were exported with Kontakt-1 to countries like Syria. T-72A Obr.1984 adds the hull applique armor and nothing else.
@@henryatkinson1479 Alright, thanks for the info.
convenient, I just unlocked this tank and have been struggling adjusting to the 9.3 environment
T-72 is good back when it is same br with the t-64a which make it a good tank with good firepower, speed,armor compare to the t-64a but now it is same br with the t-64b i think i will choose t-64b rather than this but it is still a good backup vehicle
T-72A for me was just a practice vehicle for the T-72B which is alot better tank but same as shitty optics. Overall i liked it when i only experience 9.7 uptier and some 10.0 and at that point. You'll have to cheese abrams at that point coz 3BM22 cant pen pass the fuel storage of abrams or a lil bit of angle.
I hate how the T72s get such bad optics. Worse then Shermans and Tigers which is absolutely ridiculous and unrealistic af
Glad you played the m84a
Jack of all trades but a master of none.
Thanks for sharing Justino!
Bro I just started playing the t72a again and was like damn Justin should check it out because its hella good right now
Thanks for the video I really needed more vids on the Soviets at 9.3 since I’m about to unlock the T-64A. Been using the T-62M-1 and T-55AMD at 8.7 and really need some foresight for what I’ll be using in the future. Auto loader is a must because the (with expert crew) 10.2 second reload on the 115mm really hurts especially when everyone can out reload you. Gonna miss my 4 crew and -5mph reverse speed though. And the fact that the ammo is way safer on the T-62s/T-55s.
I never got ammo rack on my t72a
Is the T-62m1 worth?, Gonna get the t-62 soon and idk where to get this or rush the t-72
@@112mirai if you like the T-62 you would like the T-62 M-1, plays the same but you get uptiers a lot more often. I'd suggest the T-72A solely because its more competitive in said uptiers in comparison.
@@szopixon3152 Ammo racked at least 10 between 2 matches yesterday with 9.0 Britain. What the hell is your luck? Lmao
T 62 M1 is worth grinding if you want to stay at 8.7 for a moment. It is better than T 55AMD at almost every aspect with some nice spalling with it's top rounds.
jack of all trades master of none
Mate I'm so bloody close to this thing, currently researching T-62, now i'm just trying to get the Leo 2av and sell it so I can get the AM-1 and grind faster
dont sleep on the T-62M-1 that thing is surprisingly good at that BR.
ask about the M900 round at 9.7 on the M1128
In my opinion the biggest problem for 9.3 russia is the lack of decent teammates.
The amount of teams where im left with half a team or less after the first few minutes is getting out of hand.
You look at the scoreboard just to see half your team is gone with 1 or 2 deaths and practically nothing done.
Meanwhile the dude you happend to kill is a US-main and spawns in US CAS planes and helos.
CAS is stupidly strong (especially US) and your own AA with toiletpaper amounts of armor gets killed off way to easy.
Also another AA between the shilka and 2s6 would be very nice to cose the AA gap.
The lack of reverse-speed and gundepression certainly doesnt help either.
At least russia has some very good helicopters too.
Better no just Radar that actually works like it did before on the shilka would be nice
Hey Justin how do I get mark of distinction for tankers?
What event vehicle in summer quest will sell for the most ?
תודה!
t72a, t64bv, 2s25, bmp2m (and khrizatema?) along with mi24a or su7b is the best line up in 9.3, beside begleit and puma
Hey man i like the video , can you do a video on the new Chinese anti airs :)
Just want to thanks for blapping me in your object 279 when I was in my shot kal dalet, was hoping I would see it in this vid lol
No, worse. It was live on my stream >:D
@JustinPlays along with many other players as well I expect 😂
Imo the T-72 is the most tank looking tank
When will the T95E1 video come out Justin?
I miss that cinematic intro😔
Is that machine gun ammo meter new or something?
Hey Justin, have you thought about maybe making a Twitch highlights compilation? I think the highlights are pretty funny, and I'd think there'd be enough to make a standalone video.
M1A1 AIM revisit. Because when you played it earlier it was full of bugs and it wasn't that helpful. Now would be a good time
Quotation mark in title?
I'm grinding for the t-72a (PAUSE!!) ONLY NEED LIKE 129,030 and I can't wait. Also good video 👍🏾
Can you Revisit the M3A3 Bradly?
Reverse speed has left the chat
Would the t-72a be a decent place to stop at aswell as the br of 9.3?
9.3 line-up for Russia is super strong.
Let me tell you it is hell to fight these when they get a full downtier they just eat every shell
i prefer the 72a to the 64B or the spruts.
the spruts gets worst in class protection, sub par firepower, bad depression, big-ish profile, for barely above par mobility.
but i played 9.3 mostly when you had full 9.3 matches and not full 10.0 matches so thats that
It isn't that bad that you can't get used to it but it's simply not worth playing it otherwise, I can't say that the 9.3 lineup is good either way.
Also:
T-72 Variants - Carry 22 rounds
T-80(T-64) Variants - Carry 28 Rounds
I always bring full carousel so NATO players can have fun watching the Soviet space program.
@@OtterMusician No point in not bringing the full carousel as the way ammo is laid out means unless you bring like 4 rounds you're going to get ammo racked if shot down there. Just don't bring over 22(28) as that puts ammo in other parts of the tank.
@@veliki_dlek there is a point. With the T-64 style tanks you can easily take out quite a few rounds to make your ammo rack a lot smaller
How do you get a mod that shows your ammo for Mg's for tanks, above the ammo and FPE, plus, tell us, where we can get this one.
That's no mod, it got added to the game like yesterday (see "it's fixed" blogs). It should be enabled by default, otherwise you have to enable it in the settings.
@@Wotplaya4 wow,I didn't know, I haven't open my game since June. Thx man, I will check it out
Luv ur vids
URSS tanks, at 10 BR and above are bias! OP! U name it!
Any Artillery Gameplay?
19 years old??? No way!!!
i carry HE and sometimes HEAT rounds with my AP to kill soft targets, idk how many times ive seen a radar spinning right above cover on an SPAA and i load an HE and nuke it just by hitting the radar lol
I do be collecting youtuber decals XD
I loved throwing HE with this tank back before 10.0 premium hell happened
5:48 That's what she said.
And then again at 6:08 lol
3BM15 infact has more pen. Didnt realize it until I looked at the stats
More flat pen but less angled pen
@@GENERICNICK-kj4lm most of things you shoot at doesnt matter really
@@neki203 Angled>>>>Flat no matter what.
@@Kwisss most of the things you see you can kill with a T-34-85 from the front so it doesnt really matter
6:59 that arty hit Justin turret and he still lived 🤔there's streamer bias or YT bias 😂
Top tier anti airs please :) if it's possible
Fine..
@@JustinPlaysTV yeeeeyy thank u thank u to see if it's worthy buying it to be honest ( cause no one covered Chinese top tier anti airs lately phly hunter koala.......)
@@allaboutsportsaudi6473 it's probably because the top tier Chinese spaa sucks. Much rather play the sam spaas
T72a and T64b are the best!!
T64B better and look better to
Dragged my arse to top tier finally but its a bit stale snipe and flank galore caps are almost pointless. Bit annoying after the grind lol
T-64B is overall is better option than the 72A, it has the armor and fire power but slow as hell even without its ERA. But its just a suffer because everything is faster in term of every aspect(mobility, gun handling, reverse)
Got this before rank 7 was added and before you had to get the T-62M-1 first, Used it to grind Russian top tier along with my T-55AM, Had so much fun killing abrams when they were very common and is still my favorite T-72. (I still never got the T-62M-1)
You should it's a really good tank
1:20 does the 3% work on PS5? If not I'm sorry.
I was informed it should, however I can't figure out how to use it. Doesn't help that I know very few players who are on the PS4/5
@@JustinPlaysTV I have no idea how to use it as well. Honestly would love to give you the 3% and get the decal but there no information on how
As someone from California that road rage joke is 100% true lol
Born and raised!
(Unfortunately)
yeah arty has been buffed so hard i hate it i have been killed by arty like 5 times today.
Do a collab wit phlydaily. That would be sick
Justin I need a tip: I'm a general grinder of all the tech trees, ground and aviation, my main nation is Italy and I only have to grind 6 vehicles to complete it, the other nations are all at rank 4 with rank 5 unlocked, for Russia I have some rank 5s, would you focus on Russia or grind some other nation?
PS: I don't like German 6.7, too slow for me
i’d recommend finishing italy, then moving on to russia. it’s what i did :)
I hate italy ground. I'm at 7.3 and there is no lineup. The M47 is so mediocre. No idea how to keep grinding. I though france was bad but no haha
Mine favorite tank xD
"The WT community has its moments"
That what makes me coming back
Go play custom games its really fun
imagine when this poor thing had to fight the leo 2A5...and before the 2A5 had its armor nerfed.
I fought in these days and still it was my first RB tank with a more the positive KD.
T-55A was horrible back then, against all these L/44 premiums.
Can someone tell my why the T 72A doesnt get the 3BM42 ._.?
that rounds already powerful at 9.7, dont think its really necessary to have it at 9.3...
@@diss2473 the T-64B has 3BM42 along with kontakt-1 both at 9.3.
@@diss2473 Sir the T 64B .....
Boom
Pls play gepard, I know you don’t like aa, but this thing is a fantastic brawler better than all tanks at its tier. Trust
say what you want about the t72 but damn do i like the look of it
this thing could go to 9.0 t-64a to 8.7 t-64b is much better mig-21pfm is also great in this lineup
Are you crazy, do you want an m60, m103 to face a t64?
My guy, the t64a at 9.0 is already great, i highly disagree that it could (or even should) go to 8.7.
T-64A is already great at 9.0, its only gripe is the constant uptier to 9.7/10.0 due to premiums.
Nah heli's deserve the spawn camping at the forward airbase. Spawn at the further base if you don't want to get spawn camped.
ont of best tanks in game, my most kills tank 1k
Getting uptiered in this and the T-64BV isn’t even that bad anyway, yeah you don’t have thermals but the scariest tanks you face are the Chally MK3 and Leo 2A4, maybe the occasional Abrams? With the fact that the BR just got moved up again for top tier MBT’s, the Russian 9.3 line up is super stronk.
Yep just got this thing and even with it being stock i have a positive kd and 70% winrate
Gaijin should either give it 3BM42 or lower it to 9.0, right now there really isn't any reason to bring it over any other 9.3 russian vehicle.
It shouldnt be 9.0 theres already not very many nations with vehicles at 9.3 that can pen it anywhere other than weakspots at point blank let alone at long distance. The ones that can have very select vehicles that can do it and they are also not main nations so not many people use them. While on the opposite end it is able to Lolpen 90% of the things it faces up to 9.7.
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 Well armor is the only thing going for it but at 9.0 and up it doesn't mean anything anyway
@@prizrak-br3332 armor is not the only thing going for it lmao, USSR is basically the only nation that people seem to be completely ok with them being able to LOLPEN the things they face at all map distances at any angle. Yes it doesn't have the 3BM42 but it doesn't need it.
It has good armor and a low profile with a gun you rarely if ever need to aim. The only time you need to aim is if you get uptiered which shouldn't even be a thing anyway, that's a problem of it's own that everything suffers from.
Few tanks get to claim they have good armor around these BRs and the T72A is one of them. The tanks that can negate your armor, again, are mostly in trees that arent played often, and even then you arent even guaranteed to see them and thats also not accounting the fact that they can also be fighting WITH you. The amount of things that can pen you the way you pen them at 8.3 (it's current max downtier) is not very large. You move it down to 9.0 and that pool is even smaller.
Not to mention the weak spots on your tank for the tanks that can't LOLPEN you back (the majority) are small ESPECIALLY at range, and very easily hidden.
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 do you play ussr ? this stuff that you say doesn't sound like it
@@goliath3413 he doesn’t play ussr
It’s extremely meta now, though.
Seems like everyone I know who plays the T-72A has bad luck with it. Not just because of the armor and firepower, it just seems to be a bad luck charm.
Play it whatever ya want then move on the next vehicle.
it used to be so good but it was power crept to hell
finally
i cant join your discord
18:42 "perfect for the russians" yes, cause recent history has definitely shown russian tanks in an urban environment fair quite well xD
Russian tanks are good, to turn a birthday candle
Crew don’t J out when artillery markers fall? Unrealistic 1/10
Is gaijin pushing for more realism with the ERA is not working just like in the russian invaders' tanks in Ukraine being found to have fake armor?
That's fake it was proven
@@brendanharvey3583 Yeah that's what i mean, the armor was fake and not actual ERA.
The T-64B is better in every single way, even the armor is better.
Which makes sense considering the t72 was made to be cheaper than the t64
@@spartanx9293 cheaper and easier to assemble/repair
@@princessapplestrach6327 however while that may be good in real life it's not good and War thunder as that means overall worst capability
hublub
The lack is not true. My goddam L23A1 Still ricochets at their driver hatch bs
russian bias is completely wrecking the game right now. hope the ddos attacks keep up untill the russian bias is removed and the games balanced again.
Decals for consoles players???
Darts ? Its apfsds pff
I've been playing the Cheiftain mk10 quite alot recently and having to fight a T-72 that is just 0.3 BR higher than it really makes me question Gaijin's decision making. It is a night and days difference between the two which makes me question Justin's conclusion in this video. Yes the T-72A is old but it has still got the nasty 125mm that can easily one shot any Nato mbt especially the Cheiftain yet they are so closely BRed together
Both the Chieftain and Chally should be better at range. IRL British tank rarely go anywhere without some infantry, a totally different tank doctrine to most other major powers and why they tend to be a little slower but make good snipers
Russian BIAS is real. There's nothing more that can be said.
I love messing with people that have the Z or the Ukrainian flag on their vehicles
Top tier premium tanks ruining near top tier because people do not have the self-control or mental ability to grind up a tree
Soviet bias.
in arcade mode tractors will randomly spawn and take out russian tanks
cheater
Hacker, get it right.
Russian tanks, LMAO yeah, we all know how they work :) cough, Ukraine ;) LOOOL;
More like Ukrainian bias
Oh wow you found a Russian vehicle that is not OP, congratulations ;)
One day you will get good enough in game to call them less OP