I've ran the JP Enterprises Silent Captured Spring Recoil System (Gen. 2) since 2016 on my direct impingement BCM Recce 16" KMR Fluted Enhanced Lightweight AR-15. I absolutely love it. 5 of 5 stars. Perfect upgrade, the SCS is superb, no marketing hype because I'm not a legit sponsor. No regrets whatsoever! Pure awesome.
Thank you guys for making this video. I have purchased one of these for my CMP Service Rifle build, and I plan to use mass and springs to tune it to operate reliably with a low mass carrier. Instructional videos like this are priceless for this kind of new tech. I am getting into CMP Service Rifle because of a recent diagnosis of what amounts to fairly crippling osteoarthritis, and of all places, it's at its worst in my shooting shoulder. So basically I had to switch to shooting ARs because of the already light recoil of the 5.56, (used to be a big bore guy; may have something to do with the shoulder problem, lol) but even in that platform I need to reduce the recoil impulse as much as I possibly can. Since internal modifications are allowed within the rules, but adjustable gas blocks are not, this recoil system is going to be my new best friend, and I plan to learn to tune it to within an inch of its life.
My friends called me crazy for buying one, but when they tried mine they all loved it!! Smooth ace quite on the AR15, and in the AR9 makes it feel and sound like a toy easy one handed shooter
Great information guys!👍👍 Ive been running these SCS’s in all of my AR platform rifles (AR15’s and AR10’s in 223/556, 6.5 grendel, 308 win) for many years. Yes, they’re pricey, but they are definitely worth it! Whenever I’m putting together a new rifle, I always make sure to budget $ for a SCS... an essential component that is mandatory for all my AR’s!
If you had an actual rifle-length silent captured spring, not just a carbine-length with a spacer, I would consider it. The rifle-length buffer system dramatically improves the recoil characteristics of the firearm by spreading the bolt deceleration over a longer distance. As it is, I just use your rifle-length silent spring with a normal buffer.
If you hand somebody who doesnt know its there an AR with one of these in it and they charge it, they immediately are going to say something like "How did you get this SO SMOOTH?" Invariably.
Insitlation instructions? One simple line drawing of it in buffer tube. A second showing it midway of operation. I'd like to try one of these, like you really go through the capability of these, and solved the issue of that loose spring. And added finer tuneing of rifle operation. Sounds so win/win to me. Big good job guys. Thanks.
If yall have never shot a rifle with a SCS you just don't understand how smooth and quiet it is. I wish JP had something that would work with my POF Revolution. 😔
Before watching I assumed it would be a waste unless you're running a suppressor and being from NY I wasn't interested but 3 mins into this video I want one.
You both have a cute "bromance" thing going on here. So much looking into each other's eyes! Look at the camera, I feel like a third wheel on your date! I can't watch this!
Wow, these two guys are scaring some people away from this terrific up grade. If anyone out there has a regular colt m-4 or almost any regular AR-15, you don't need to go through all this running to get the benefit, unless that's what you want to do. I put the captured spring in my Colt M-4, did nothing else, and it ran fine. Like these guys are saying, once you shoot without that TWANG!!! of that loose spring in the stock, right next to your ear, with your plastic hearing protection driving that sound into your head, you lose that and it's quiet and solid feeling, it's like shooting a brand new gun. It's the best upgrade you can do for the money, maybe the trigger is right there too, if you get the JP trigger. I won't own an AR without a captured spring in it, no way. BTW, JP is the man, I just love every detail he thinks of, more so than any other brand of upgrades, some day I want a whole rifle that is his design. That will be my dream gun.
Monkeybones30 well then don’t be an idiot! It’s the same as me sayin “my Shelby GT500” when I’m driving a V6 mustang. Get ur shit straight. My M4.... PFFFFF lmao what a DB
I wish you guys offered this off the shelf in H1 buffer weight instead of having to buy the extra tungsten... nonetheless, very cool system, I'm buying one.
I'd appreciate a video that's a deep dive into tuning. I watched the vid JP did a while back on Gas vs. Mass Regulation, and it's great. But let's also toss in spring weight. Personally both my rifles a large frame and small have the full tuning options, the SCS with springs, a VMOS carrier, some extra weights, and an adjustable gas block. I can and am of course experimenting but it'd be great to get some tips and maybe things I haven't thought of.
I was thinking the same thing as I was watching this video. I'm still relatively new to the platform and this system. I'm learning about building and am currently modifying my 10.5" AR. Tips on tuning would be a great help.
How does this compare to just lightly greasing the spring? I lightly greased the sides of my spring and it got a lot more smooth and quite. I do completely clean my gun almost eveytime I shoot it, but even after a few days and a few hundred dirty steel case rounds, I have not noticed the grease holding grime. Strongly considering one of these captive springs, but If the grease gets close, I may just save the money
@@raxter82 Yeah 68grn 5.56 going 2100+ fps is pretty slow. It would probably bounce right off someone. I mean it's only 3 times faster than a single shot knock them dead .45acp. A 5.56 from a 8" barrel will still make a Jackson Pollock of your head. KAG and DEVGRU both use HK416 with 10.4"-20" or the MK18 with 10.3" barrel.
I’m running Adams Arms gas piston system with the standard JP SCS and echo trigger. Getting FTF probably cycling too fast on xm193 ammo so I’m going to get 2 tungsten rings to see if that’ll fix my issue.
I've got a slightly modified utas xrt12.... will one of these work in it? I know these things are picky about what ammo they will run reliably... just looking to make it a little less picky
I bought my first ar15. I have a 16” barrel factory stock ar with no adjustable gas block and I would like a silent buffer. Which one would you recommend? I do not shoot suppressed.
I have a Aero build I did it has a Krieger m110 barrel and JP matching bolt. The JP bolt it sitting in a Aero bolt nickel boron carrier. I also have a adjustable gas block. I’m experiencing short stroking I had to cut 5 coils off the Brownell’s AR10 buffer spring just to get the rifle to cycle. But I still won’t lock back after last round fired. Will this help my situation.
I just got an H2 for brand new PWS 300 BO 9 inch and not working, I need to tune as it is mostly single shots with failure to feed and sometimes failure to eject. I tried multiple ammo both 120gr and 200gr. I also tried MFT, Pmags and metal mags. I haven't played with adjustable gas block but it is open. This upper works fine with 2 other lowers (spikes with an H2 and LWRC with H1). With my last 300BO it was the same until i changed to an H2 buffer. Suggestions? Or should I call?
I need help so im building my first ar15 but im also building multiple at once so one ar15 fires 2 1/2 inch 410ga shotgun shells and the other is 556 so what should i get for both of them
Im running a Springfield Saint Victor 10 in 308 with a rugged suppressor. What setup should I go with to get rid of a double feed issue? And I cant changed the gas block without drilling it out.
Just purchased the ar-15 kit but I am running an A5 tube. If I wanted to trim the rifle length spacer to the a5 size what is the necessary length for the spacer of A5 use?
how much will this help to reduce recoil on an ar-10 with a gas block , 20" stainless barrel, with a standard muzzle brake? i was thinking a better buffer spring and muzzle brake or compensator should reduce recoil significantly. advice??
John I know it's been a year since your comment but I have a PWS Mk109 Mod 2 and it is compatible. I literally just got an email reply back from JP and they advised me that PWS changed there BCG midway through there Mod 1 configuration. So if you have one of the very first production runs of the Mod 1 it wont be compatible. Hope this helps.
On an overgassed 6.5 creedmoor platform without an adjustable gas block, is it better to start adding tungsten weights or switching to a stiffer recoil spring first?
Confusing information, some websites say to not use the JP with a select fire rifle, so should we or not because it also says to use one if you have a sbr select fire supressed
So basically if you have a fine adjustment gas block like a superlative arms GB you don't really need to do a lot of weight/spring swapping (5.56 rifle)
Buck El Rodeo between the adjustable GB, and weighted buffers and springs, you can fine tune the weapon to the ammo/suppressor you’re using. If you have the time, ammo, and money to do it... I have a job though, so I don’t have that kinda time to play at the range myself...
I'm not a fan of the spring sound. I was raised shooting an M1A1, and Mini-14. I resisted getting an AR, til just a couple of years ago. I know it's me, but I don't enjoy shooting my AR as much as the Mini-14, and it's mostly the sound from the tube. From other comments, and being a big fan grease, I may try adding more grease to the spring, but if this product also does something to mitigate BCG tilt with a piston gun, I may just go ahead and pop for it.
do the weights have a moving part? because the standard AR15 buffers have an internal reciprocating weight to aid in reducing bold bounce by producing a "dead blow" effect. If these are just solid metal weights they can't provide a dead blow effect.
Yes, the weights do have some room for travel on the slide and are interspaced by rubber o-rings. So, the deadblow effect is significant, especially with tungsten weights.
What set up would you recommend to me. I'm building a 300 blackout with a 7.5" barrel and a skeletonized light weight bolt carrier group. Rite now unsuppresed it will cycle supers fine but not subs.i would like to start out in the ballpark with out buying lots on trial and error parts.
I’m running a Nemo arms specialized buffer spring for 300 blackout with a standard 3oz. Buffer on my 7.5 inch barrel spikes tactical build and works like a charm, remember that the 300 blackout produces less chamber pressure than the 223/5.56 so you actually need a lighter buffer spring and buffer to cycle effectively in the pistol length system, go buy your self at “Nemo arms” website the 300 blackout spring for around $15 and save yourself al the hassle and extra spending, by the way it works well with supersonic as well as subsonic ammo without a suppressor!
Any chance of a design that would allow all the reciprocating movement in just the upper in conjunction with the bolt where the buffer tube area is not needed?
The BCG Is the full length of the upper reciever... So without some serious Frankinsmithing [not recommended], there would be nowhere for it to go when cycling without the tube. There are other AR-ish systems with side-folding stocks that do what you're asking, but their BCG/spring system is propriatary and not interchangeable.
The kit version of the Silent Captured spring system will have the alternate spring options. The kit version does not contain alternate ring weights, they can be purchased separately as needed.
If you are currently running a standard 5.2oz rifle length buffer and you are satisfied with how the rifle runs both suppressed and unsuppressed, you may want to opt for a JPSCS2-15H3 which will need to be ordered over the phone through JP. The alternate option to achieve H3 mass is to purchase a JPSCS2-15H2 and also an additional JPSCS2-HM-2 tungsten buffer mass to swap onto it. The best result would come from having an adjustable gas block in combination with the H2 or H3 Silent Captured Spring System. This would give you the greatest ability to tune the rifle correctly to go back-and-forth between suppressed and unsuppressed use. You can also check the Silent Captured Spring System Selection Guide: jprifles.com/document_pdfs/SCS%20Selection%20Guide_794.pdf
So, I like the features. How do I know what I need? If this tunes your AR, it should be essential explaining what you need based off different configs.
We do have a flow chart on our site that can explain that can give you more details based off different configurations. jprifles.com/document_pdfs/SCS%20Selection%20Guide_821.pdf
What your shooting it besides the point. Does your rifle have a buffer and spring or not behind the BCG? Y = SCS is recommended N = No place to put it, so no.
You mentioned heavier scs for 6.5 grendel but didn't say what size, i have went from .223 16" carbine to a 6.5 grendel 18" mid length gas , i have a 3oz. buffer now, any suggestions on where to start, buffer or adjustable gas block?
Raymond Anthony I’d say adjustable GB but that’s just me. The different buffer weights and spring sizes might be a cheaper way to go. Adjustable gas blocks is the route I went with all of my ARs and it has worked for me using a long hex wrench. Instead of trying a bunch of different buffers and springs to find what works best for my rifles. And plus I don’t have a bunch of extra useless/unneeded buffers and springs laying around when I was finished due to not experimenting with them.
I have a colt m4 carbine with an h buffer. I bought your standard 3 stainless weighted system. Is that the one you would recommend for my gun or do I need to add a tungsten weight in place of 1 ss weight?
One tungsten weight would give you about the same buffering mass as an H buffer, but if it shoots reliably in its current all-steel configuration, there's no need to change it.
I have always been an AK guy. But I bought a Cmmg government profile, 20" barrel as my first ar15. First magazine of hearing the spring "twanging" in the buffer tube after every trigger pull made me absolutely hate shooting the gun and I actually sold it right after. Wish I would have known about these back then, as I would probably still have my ar and would probably enjoy shooting it.
Well I was able to get my rifle running it ended up needing a ArmaLite rifle length gas tube. Apparently the ArmaLite rifle length gas tubes are about 1/8th longer then your DPMS standard rifle length gas tubes. However I have just recently purchased the JP AR10 adjustable BCG and the SCS. So my question now is since I have tungsten weights on the BCG & SCS. Am I going to need to remove weight from the BCG and or the SCS ????? Maybe you guys over at JP can respond to my comment now since I have a band worth of your products in my rifle.
Please email this question to Service@jprifles.com. Make sure to include the exact model numbers for the bolt carrier and Silent Captured Spring system.
The cost is $139.99; this is not a lot of money when the item works as advertised. Trigger Tech trigger cost $200 + depending on the model with pricing for AR Diamond at $260; I have three plus one Elftmann triggers costing $235.00.
Not too familiar with their triggers, but looks like it requires an H3 buffer. In that case, I'd recommend our JPSCS2-15H2. That's the equivalent of an H2 buffer. See if that works, and if not, you can swap out one of the steel weights for another tungsten and get to the H3 equivalent.
0:07 "Hey guys, I'm Dustin; and I'm Ben; And we're here to pump (clap, point) you up!" As soon as I saw the first few seconds, I couldn't get this out of my mind. Apologies.
Any suggestions on which one Id need for :Gibbz side charging 7.62x39 AR, Superlative Arms Piston kit, 16" KAK barrel with 5/32 mid gas. RRA Lar 47 lower.
@@JPRifles Does running H2 buffer help with recoil mitigation? I have adjustable gas block with carbine but it's still sharp recoil with superlative arms piston kit. Hoping to mitigate the recoil.
Bought the standard scs, being new to using w/ suppressor. Why is it so much more expensive buying 2 tungsten weights compared to just buying the H2 scs with them already installed?
Ok so obviously y’all aren’t used to doing videos for customers here’s a friendly tip talk to the camera look at the camera don’t turn and talk to the guy next to you he already knows what your gonna say
So, I recently built an ar-10 with a jp silent capture buffer spring. Seems to work fine as far as I can tell, other than the "silent" part. Operating the bolt causes the rifle to ring like a bell, a very noticeable, unique, and ultimately odd sound. Much louder than my other rifles which do not have this part and don't experience this ringing. I just want to check if this is something anyone else has experienced? Is there some error I'm missing? I appreciate any help.
We've had our centerless ground precision buffer springs (JPS-OSR, JPS-OSC, JPS-OSR.308, & JPS-OSC.308) for a very long time. There is a huge difference between the Silent Captured Spring system and any traditional style buffer & spring setup that I have ever tried.
What do you suggest I start with for a factory S&W MP10, 16" barrel? Feels like the factory setup is over gassed as the buffer may as well not even be there by how hard it kicks. Also what accessories should I purchase to help fine tune?
@@JPRifles thank you for the reply. One thing I think would be good to cover in a video would be when to try different springs vs when to change weights. I've never tried tuning a buffer before so knowing which item (weights vs springs) to swap based on how the gun is running would be great.
Hey guys! I have a mid length Daniel defense v7, with a lmt enhanced bolt carrier and bolt! What version do I get! I know the lmt bcg helps vent gas, so I’m not sure!
It technically can be done, but it isn't recommended. To me it would be horribly inconvenient having to break-down the SCS to switch parts and springs every time I wanted to shoot a different rifle.
I've ran the JP Enterprises Silent Captured Spring Recoil System (Gen. 2) since 2016 on my direct impingement BCM Recce 16" KMR Fluted Enhanced Lightweight AR-15. I absolutely love it. 5 of 5 stars. Perfect upgrade, the SCS is superb, no marketing hype because I'm not a legit sponsor. No regrets whatsoever! Pure awesome.
I've been running them in my POF-USA rigs. They make my Gucci rigs run silent.
Thank you guys for making this video. I have purchased one of these for my CMP Service Rifle build, and I plan to use mass and springs to tune it to operate reliably with a low mass carrier. Instructional videos like this are priceless for this kind of new tech.
I am getting into CMP Service Rifle because of a recent diagnosis of what amounts to fairly crippling osteoarthritis, and of all places, it's at its worst in my shooting shoulder. So basically I had to switch to shooting ARs because of the already light recoil of the 5.56, (used to be a big bore guy; may have something to do with the shoulder problem, lol) but even in that platform I need to reduce the recoil impulse as much as I possibly can. Since internal modifications are allowed within the rules, but adjustable gas blocks are not, this recoil system is going to be my new best friend, and I plan to learn to tune it to within an inch of its life.
My friends called me crazy for buying one, but when they tried mine they all loved it!! Smooth ace quite on the AR15, and in the AR9 makes it feel and sound like a toy easy one handed shooter
Great information guys!👍👍 Ive been running these SCS’s in all of my AR platform rifles (AR15’s and AR10’s in 223/556, 6.5 grendel, 308 win) for many years. Yes, they’re pricey, but they are definitely worth it! Whenever I’m putting together a new rifle, I always make sure to budget $ for a SCS... an essential component that is mandatory for all my AR’s!
What would be best for a 308 16” carbine with mid length gas system
This was informative and spot on. Finally a channel that deals with a accessory that produces an outcome that benefits the product
I run these in all of my rifles. They are awesome. Couple it with a SLR Sentry gas block and you’ll never waste time trying to playing with weights
This video was super helpful for deciding to purchase one of these and hype tuning for my 16" Dissipator Build.
I just used a quarter if I needed the tiny space. and have cut quite a few spacers for an A5 tube. Good to see both have part numbers now.
Just shot mine today. It’s so crisp and smooth. Love it
If you had an actual rifle-length silent captured spring, not just a carbine-length with a spacer, I would consider it. The rifle-length buffer system dramatically improves the recoil characteristics of the firearm by spreading the bolt deceleration over a longer distance. As it is, I just use your rifle-length silent spring with a normal buffer.
Huh
jp silent buffer system is a home run, i have one in my bcm and it is soo smooth felt recoil impulse is quite nice, 2 thumbs up from a legit owner👍👍👍
I have 2 now, one in long range 18" rifle, and one at close range 16"
these things are awesome
Very informative - thank you!
Thank you gentlemen
If you hand somebody who doesnt know its there an AR with one of these in it and they charge it, they immediately are going to say something like "How did you get this SO SMOOTH?" Invariably.
Insitlation instructions?
One simple line drawing of it in buffer tube.
A second showing it midway of operation.
I'd like to try one of these, like you really go through the capability of these, and solved the issue of that loose spring.
And added finer tuneing of rifle operation.
Sounds so win/win to me.
Big good job guys. Thanks.
Installation*
Tuning*
If yall have never shot a rifle with a SCS you just don't understand how smooth and quiet it is. I wish JP had something that would work with my POF Revolution. 😔
These are awesome.
Too many words not enough pictures... Show some demos!!
I like the SCS in my piston guns. It takes the edge off the initial recoil.
what weight are you running?
Before watching I assumed it would be a waste unless you're running a suppressor and being from NY I wasn't interested but 3 mins into this video I want one.
You both have a cute "bromance" thing going on here. So much looking into each other's eyes! Look at the camera, I feel like a third wheel on your date! I can't watch this!
Oh, you're not the first to notice...
@@JPRifles love this comment :)
This comment ruined their bromance thanks for making it awkward
Yall sound like democrats for sure
@@JPRifles comment gold
Wow, these two guys are scaring some people away from this terrific up grade. If anyone out there has a regular colt m-4 or almost any regular AR-15, you don't need to go through all this running to get the benefit, unless that's what you want to do. I put the captured spring in my Colt M-4, did nothing else, and it ran fine. Like these guys are saying, once you shoot without that TWANG!!!
of that loose spring in the stock, right next to your ear, with your plastic hearing protection driving that sound into your head, you lose that and it's quiet and solid feeling, it's like shooting a brand new gun. It's the best upgrade you can do for the money, maybe the trigger is right there too, if you get the JP trigger. I won't own an AR without a captured spring in it, no way. BTW, JP is the man, I just love every detail he thinks of, more so than any other brand of upgrades, some day I want a whole rifle that is his design. That will be my dream gun.
Bill MacKinnon you don’t have an M4. Unless you are referring to a United States Service weapon. A colt 6920 is not an M4 lol
Monkeybones30 well then don’t be an idiot!
It’s the same as me sayin “my Shelby GT500” when I’m driving a V6 mustang. Get ur shit straight. My M4.... PFFFFF lmao what a DB
Monkeybones30 I bet u have an M4 too! Haha
Interesting - a simple $20 Sprinco did the same thing.
I wish you guys offered this off the shelf in H1 buffer weight instead of having to buy the extra tungsten... nonetheless, very cool system, I'm buying one.
I thought those were door stops!
Keith Walker lol. DIY SCS
It could stop whats at the door......
@@weasel101 this is true
I'd appreciate a video that's a deep dive into tuning. I watched the vid JP did a while back on Gas vs. Mass Regulation, and it's great. But let's also toss in spring weight. Personally both my rifles a large frame and small have the full tuning options, the SCS with springs, a VMOS carrier, some extra weights, and an adjustable gas block. I can and am of course experimenting but it'd be great to get some tips and maybe things I haven't thought of.
We hope to add to our library of informational videos on topics such as the one you suggested. Thank you!
I was thinking the same thing as I was watching this video. I'm still relatively new to the platform and this system. I'm learning about building and am currently modifying my 10.5" AR. Tips on tuning would be a great help.
@@PrimeTime__ I've learned a lot since posting that.
@snek nice
How well does it reduce felt recoil?
How does this compare to just lightly greasing the spring? I lightly greased the sides of my spring and it got a lot more smooth and quite. I do completely clean my gun almost eveytime I shoot it, but even after a few days and a few hundred dirty steel case rounds, I have not noticed the grease holding grime.
Strongly considering one of these captive springs, but If the grease gets close, I may just save the money
13 minutes of talking, and you not once install into a rifle for sound comparison?
SHHH, just buy the unnecessary, nonfictional product, bigot.
@@VeritasEtAequitas unnecessary, maybe. But they are nice for sure. I have one in a 7" pdw and don't regret it at all.
@@rodiculous9464 I’ve never understood why people go below 10.5 for AR platform. Your ballistics start to drop off rapidly. Basically 22 WMR LOL
@@raxter82 yeah cuz ar only come in .223 hyuck hyuck
@@raxter82 Yeah 68grn 5.56 going 2100+ fps is pretty slow. It would probably bounce right off someone. I mean it's only 3 times faster than a single shot knock them dead .45acp. A 5.56 from a 8" barrel will still make a Jackson Pollock of your head. KAG and DEVGRU both use HK416 with 10.4"-20" or the MK18 with 10.3" barrel.
I’m running Adams Arms gas piston system with the standard JP SCS and echo trigger. Getting FTF probably cycling too fast on xm193 ammo so I’m going to get 2 tungsten rings to see if that’ll fix my issue.
If only you could tune the piston system and limit the gas. Then you wouldnt have to spend the money........... oh wait, you can........
I've got a slightly modified utas xrt12.... will one of these work in it? I know these things are picky about what ammo they will run reliably... just looking to make it a little less picky
I bought my first ar15. I have a 16” barrel factory stock ar with no adjustable gas block and I would like a silent buffer. Which one would you recommend? I do not shoot suppressed.
I have a Aero build I did it has a Krieger m110 barrel and JP matching bolt. The JP bolt it sitting in a Aero bolt nickel boron carrier. I also have a adjustable gas block. I’m experiencing short stroking I had to cut 5 coils off the Brownell’s AR10 buffer spring just to get the rifle to cycle. But I still won’t lock back after last round fired. Will this help my situation.
Do you recommend applying thread locker to both top & bottom screws?
I just got an H2 for brand new PWS 300 BO 9 inch and not working, I need to tune as it is mostly single shots with failure to feed and sometimes failure to eject. I tried multiple ammo both 120gr and 200gr. I also tried MFT, Pmags and metal mags. I haven't played with adjustable gas block but it is open. This upper works fine with 2 other lowers (spikes with an H2 and LWRC with H1). With my last 300BO it was the same until i changed to an H2 buffer. Suggestions? Or should I call?
Please contact us via Email to Service@JPrifles.com for technical assistance.
I need help so im building my first ar15 but im also building multiple at once so one ar15 fires 2 1/2 inch 410ga shotgun shells and the other is 556 so what should i get for both of them
Does this device help to improve a 300 B/O sound efficency?
Im running a Springfield Saint Victor 10 in 308 with a rugged suppressor. What setup should I go with to get rid of a double feed issue? And I cant changed the gas block without drilling it out.
Is this a podcast or something? Lol, very intriguing guys, but do you have any animations or examples or cutaways? Very curious about it operating
Just purchased the ar-15 kit but I am running an A5 tube. If I wanted to trim the rifle length spacer to the a5 size what is the necessary length for the spacer of A5 use?
Is there an SCS suited for a .45acp blowback system?
how much will this help to reduce recoil on an ar-10 with a gas block , 20" stainless barrel, with a standard muzzle brake? i was thinking a better buffer spring and muzzle brake or compensator should reduce recoil significantly. advice??
Would it be possible to use this in a carbine length buffer tube with a rifle length gas tube?
A high quality buffer tube and spring with a little oil, mine is very silent and slick. Awesome product though
Useless product
Just a decent buffer,spring and tube is the way to go👍
To a fraction of the price..
It's a "no brainer" 😉
@@larsandreasrisy4402 you seem like the kind of person that buys everything store brand
Pez dispenser sound removal device... neat
haha, yes that's one benefit
Do you guys plan to make a silent buffer for firearms with a PWS bolt carrier? Smaller inside diameter compared to standard.
John I know it's been a year since your comment but I have a PWS Mk109 Mod 2 and it is compatible. I literally just got an email reply back from JP and they advised me that PWS changed there BCG midway through there Mod 1 configuration. So if you have one of the very first production runs of the Mod 1 it wont be compatible. Hope this helps.
On an overgassed 6.5 creedmoor platform without an adjustable gas block, is it better to start adding tungsten weights or switching to a stiffer recoil spring first?
Add buffer mass.
Confusing information, some websites say to not use the JP with a select fire rifle, so should we or not because it also says to use one if you have a sbr select fire supressed
is this system as good or better than the Geiselle Super 42 braided spring?
So basically if you have a fine adjustment gas block like a superlative arms GB you don't really need to do a lot of weight/spring swapping (5.56 rifle)
Buck El Rodeo yeah... but this thing they are selling makes the rifle quieter by eliminating the buffer and buffer spring noise inside the buffer tube
Buck El Rodeo between the adjustable GB, and weighted buffers and springs, you can fine tune the weapon to the ammo/suppressor you’re using. If you have the time, ammo, and money to do it... I have a job though, so I don’t have that kinda time to play at the range myself...
@@williamstiefel3908 so it does the same thing. a heavyweight lubricant could
@@1986subway if you use a thick axle grease maybe?
@@williamstiefel3908 lanolin
I have a DDmk SBR and I’m running a mini surefire suppressor. What silence captured Springs?
standard carbine buffer tube ar 15 lower, 7 .62 x 39 upper. what basic change in buffer and spring would you start with?
Sprinco Blue and H2.
New sub too - bang bang.
Great video guys, question what system can I use with my 9mm pistol cal carbine?
Please check the Silent Captured Spring System Selection Guide that is available on the buffer springs page of our website JPRIFLES.COM.
I finally saved the $ ordering today.
Imo the spring sound is part of the ar15 experience.
Oh yeah. Like diarrhea is part of the mexican water experience. Lol
I'm not a fan of the spring sound. I was raised shooting an M1A1, and Mini-14. I resisted getting an AR, til just a couple of years ago. I know it's me, but I don't enjoy shooting my AR as much as the Mini-14, and it's mostly the sound from the tube.
From other comments, and being a big fan grease, I may try adding more grease to the spring, but if this product also does something to mitigate BCG tilt with a piston gun, I may just go ahead and pop for it.
It's not enough of the experience that I would mind getting rid of it. The quieter the better in my opinion
Kill the spring.
What weight and spring would be best for my Daniel defense 14.5” 556 gun I have a 8.2oz bcg in it.
do the weights have a moving part? because the standard AR15 buffers have an internal reciprocating weight to aid in reducing bold bounce by producing a "dead blow" effect. If these are just solid metal weights they can't provide a dead blow effect.
Yes, the weights do have some room for travel on the slide and are interspaced by rubber o-rings. So, the deadblow effect is significant, especially with tungsten weights.
I'm going to mount a Bear Creek 450 Bush master upper to my Ruger SR .556.What can I do to make the recoil more manageable and still be safe ?
We would recommend the JPSCS2-15H2.
would really help if you showed example with sound and comparison
What set up would you recommend to me.
I'm building a 300 blackout with a 7.5" barrel and a skeletonized light weight bolt carrier group. Rite now unsuppresed it will cycle supers fine but not subs.i would like to start out in the ballpark with out buying lots on trial and error parts.
I’m running a Nemo arms specialized buffer spring for 300 blackout with a standard 3oz. Buffer on my 7.5 inch barrel spikes tactical build and works like a charm, remember that the 300 blackout produces less chamber pressure than the 223/5.56 so you actually need a lighter buffer spring and buffer to cycle effectively in the pistol length system, go buy your self at “Nemo arms” website the 300 blackout spring for around $15 and save yourself al the hassle and extra spending, by the way it works well with supersonic as well as subsonic ammo without a suppressor!
Any chance of a design that would allow all the reciprocating movement in just the upper in conjunction with the bolt where the buffer tube area is not needed?
The BCG Is the full length of the upper reciever... So without some serious Frankinsmithing [not recommended], there would be nowhere for it to go when cycling without the tube.
There are other AR-ish systems with side-folding stocks that do what you're asking, but their BCG/spring system is propriatary and not interchangeable.
recommendation for Ar-10 6.5 Creedmoor 22" barrel suppressed SCS set up?
With the variable mass buffer spring does it come with all the different springs and weights needed to tune it to how we want it to run?
The kit version of the Silent Captured spring system will have the alternate spring options. The kit version does not contain alternate ring weights, they can be purchased separately as needed.
If I change my ar10 silent capture spring h1 to a h2 do have to change the spring? If so what spring will be recommended? 12.5 barrel
@ because that's what I wanted and it's easier for my hunting
if it don't work buy some more stuff till you get it right got it.
Oh, I get it now. A buffer spring that costs $140. Just what my ARs need! Haha
223 21 inch barrel I shoot a 55 grain at 3300 fps with a A2 stock. Sometimes I shoot suppressed sometimes I dont what size do I need?
If you are currently running a standard 5.2oz rifle length buffer and you are satisfied with how the rifle runs both suppressed and unsuppressed, you may want to opt for a JPSCS2-15H3 which will need to be ordered over the phone through JP. The alternate option to achieve H3 mass is to purchase a JPSCS2-15H2 and also an additional JPSCS2-HM-2 tungsten buffer mass to swap onto it.
The best result would come from having an adjustable gas block in combination with the H2 or H3 Silent Captured Spring System. This would give you the greatest ability to tune the rifle correctly to go back-and-forth between suppressed and unsuppressed use.
You can also check the Silent Captured Spring System Selection Guide: jprifles.com/document_pdfs/SCS%20Selection%20Guide_794.pdf
Will this work if I’m running a sylvan arms folding stock? Or will I need to take that off?
How is it compared to DPM AR-15 buffer system? Does anybody have some experience?
So, I like the features. How do I know what I need? If this tunes your AR, it should be essential explaining what you need based off different configs.
We do have a flow chart on our site that can explain that can give you more details based off different configurations.
jprifles.com/document_pdfs/SCS%20Selection%20Guide_821.pdf
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make one of these that is integral to the bolt, eliminating the need for a buffer tube. thanks
For a 224 Valkyrie with an 18 inch barrel witch system would you recommend
What your shooting it besides the point.
Does your rifle have a buffer and spring or not behind the BCG?
Y = SCS is recommended
N = No place to put it, so no.
Thanks for the review. I have question, which I have AR folding stock adapter, is it possible to use both at the same time?
We offer versions of the Silent Captured Spring systems that are specifically designed to be used with the LAW Tactical Folding Stock Adapter.
@@JPRifles : Thank you, what's the difference between standard and heavy?
You mentioned heavier scs for 6.5 grendel but didn't say what size, i have went from .223 16" carbine to a 6.5 grendel 18" mid length gas , i have a 3oz. buffer now, any suggestions on where to start, buffer or adjustable gas block?
Raymond Anthony I’d say adjustable GB but that’s just me. The different buffer weights and spring sizes might be a cheaper way to go. Adjustable gas blocks is the route I went with all of my ARs and it has worked for me using a long hex wrench. Instead of trying a bunch of different buffers and springs to find what works best for my rifles. And plus I don’t have a bunch of extra useless/unneeded buffers and springs laying around when I was finished due to not experimenting with them.
I have a colt m4 carbine with an h buffer. I bought your standard 3 stainless weighted system. Is that the one you would recommend for my gun or do I need to add a tungsten weight in place of 1 ss weight?
One tungsten weight would give you about the same buffering mass as an H buffer, but if it shoots reliably in its current all-steel configuration, there's no need to change it.
I have always been an AK guy. But I bought a Cmmg government profile, 20" barrel as my first ar15. First magazine of hearing the spring "twanging" in the buffer tube after every trigger pull made me absolutely hate shooting the gun and I actually sold it right after. Wish I would have known about these back then, as I would probably still have my ar and would probably enjoy shooting it.
Embrace the sprong!
Will these work with the pof p415?
Well I was able to get my rifle running it ended up needing a ArmaLite rifle length gas tube. Apparently the ArmaLite rifle length gas tubes are about 1/8th longer then your DPMS standard rifle length gas tubes. However I have just recently purchased the JP AR10 adjustable BCG and the SCS. So my question now is since I have tungsten weights on the BCG & SCS. Am I going to need to remove weight from the BCG and or the SCS ????? Maybe you guys over at JP can respond to my comment now since I have a band worth of your products in my rifle.
Please email this question to Service@jprifles.com. Make sure to include the exact model numbers for the bolt carrier and Silent Captured Spring system.
The cost is $139.99; this is not a lot of money when the item works as advertised. Trigger Tech trigger cost $200 + depending on the model with pricing for AR Diamond at $260; I have three plus one Elftmann triggers costing $235.00.
Does any have these? Are they really worth switching to?
Have a recommendation for one to use with the FRT-15 trigger?
Not too familiar with their triggers, but looks like it requires an H3 buffer. In that case, I'd recommend our JPSCS2-15H2. That's the equivalent of an H2 buffer. See if that works, and if not, you can swap out one of the steel weights for another tungsten and get to the H3 equivalent.
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Talking about it is one thing… Shooting it to prove the sound and showing test is better
Can this be used inside a pistol brace kit (e.g. SBA3) with a law tactical folding stock adapter?
That's correct. It works fine in standard pistol braces, and for the LAW, we have an alternate version SCS kit that we came out with this year.
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Any suggestions on which one Id need for :Gibbz side charging 7.62x39 AR, Superlative Arms Piston kit, 16" KAK barrel with 5/32 mid gas.
RRA Lar 47 lower.
Best guess would be the JPSCS2-15H2.
@@JPRifles Does running H2 buffer help with recoil mitigation? I have adjustable gas block with carbine but it's still sharp recoil with superlative arms piston kit. Hoping to mitigate the recoil.
Bought the standard scs, being new to using w/ suppressor. Why is it so much more expensive buying 2 tungsten weights compared to just buying the H2 scs with them already installed?
If you subtract out the steel weights from the standard model and then add in the tungsten, it's only about a $10 difference in the end.
looking for a SCS for a 458 socom that would work with a Law Tactical folding stock. What Can of SCS and buffer tube do I need to buy?
the length of the barrel on the 458 socom is 12 inches. Not adjustable gas port.
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@Booge Nautilus "LOOK INTO MY EYES WHEN YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BUFFER SYSTEM!"
So, I recently built an ar-10 with a jp silent capture buffer spring. Seems to work fine as far as I can tell, other than the "silent" part. Operating the bolt causes the rifle to ring like a bell, a very noticeable, unique, and ultimately odd sound. Much louder than my other rifles which do not have this part and don't experience this ringing.
I just want to check if this is something anyone else has experienced? Is there some error I'm missing? I appreciate any help.
Do you have an adjustable gas block, and if so, have you tuned the gas?
@@JPRifles The gas block is a non-adjustable .750 low pro. Nothing too fancy on that end.
Stainless buffer spring takes care of the twang and cheese grater sound. Done. I like spikes tactical
We've had our centerless ground precision buffer springs (JPS-OSR, JPS-OSC, JPS-OSR.308, & JPS-OSC.308) for a very long time. There is a huge difference between the Silent Captured Spring system and any traditional style buffer & spring setup that I have ever tried.
This work with Geissele REBCG??
What do you suggest I start with for a factory S&W MP10, 16" barrel? Feels like the factory setup is over gassed as the buffer may as well not even be there by how hard it kicks. Also what accessories should I purchase to help fine tune?
I'd start with our JPSCS2-10. You can always move into the tungsten weights if you feel the need for more mass regulation.
@@JPRifles thank you for the reply. One thing I think would be good to cover in a video would be when to try different springs vs when to change weights. I've never tried tuning a buffer before so knowing which item (weights vs springs) to swap based on how the gun is running would be great.
What would you recommend for a 14 1/2 inch Mid barrel not suppressed ?
Might depend. We have a selection guide on our website you should check out: jprifles.com/1.4.7.2_os.php
Any recommendations for a ruger SFAR?
Which variant would I need for a maxim cqb brace/stock?
That version is a Maxim exclusive, available on their website.
What about using a coated flat wire spring? It would make it even quieter and it would reduce the vibration even more.
Open your eyes. Spring doesn't touch buffer tube.
@MadGraph Calm down Karen and pay attention. No one said anything about touching the buffer tube.
Hey guys! I have a mid length Daniel defense v7, with a lmt enhanced bolt carrier and bolt! What version do I get! I know the lmt bcg helps vent gas, so I’m not sure!
Please refer to out Silent Captured Spring Selection Guide: jprifles.com/document_pdfs/SCS%20Selection%20Guide_794.pdf
Was watching a different video on the SCS, can I purchase one SCS and swap between AR15 to AR10 with parts change?
It technically can be done, but it isn't recommended. To me it would be horribly inconvenient having to break-down the SCS to switch parts and springs every time I wanted to shoot a different rifle.