It is due to a lack of zeal and/or unbelief imo. Only the Templars are fanatically religious enough to become true imperial saints. Unless you count the fire Hawks, that is.
I saw 2 episodes of Richard Boylans fan film of this and it made me get the book, reading the book got me hooked. 4 years later and 260 books read, hundreds of hours of Audio Dramas listened to and multiple games played all I have to say is that WH40k is the greatest sci-do universe EVER!!
For someone who has only read two of the books, where would you advise someone start and is there any kind of order you chose to read the books in or did you just dive in and jump about the various options?
@@Adam-je2xs read the Horus Heresy series first and then go to the 40k stuff but Helsreach was one of the best novels I’ve ever read and I’m in my 50s and read close to 1,000 books in my lifetime. Aaron Dembski-Bowden is a brilliant writer, he wrote amazing stuff in the Horus Heresy too
In regards to Angron's probable return to Armageddon, (just hypothetically) imagine if Kharne came along and, with the Black Templars there, imagine if a version of Sigismund (LotD or Saint) manifested and they had another duel.
@@irishspartanstudios all of the Legion of the Damned with Ferrus Manus (LotD style) and Saint Sigismund at the head against all the Bloody Horde of Khorne with Angron and Kharn at their head.
My favourite 40k book I ever read. Soo many good moments; my most memorable is when Jurisian fire the Ordinatus to destroy the megagargant, and the classic one liner: "Engine Kill". Also it is wider than the animation in scope (animation is great though), and it shows the Dockyard attack which really broke the defence and forced the last stand.
You can watch a fanbased animated movie of helsreach here on CZcams. It's made around the audio book of helsreach. I highly recommend it, it's absolutely brilliant!
Huh I can see Grimaldus easily, but what about Dante? The Blood Angels may not believe in the way the Ecclesiarchy does but the faith of the Blood, the faith they put in the words and visions of Sanguinius (who is already practically a ‘dead’ saint), and the sheer number of people across the Imperium who venerate Dante from Armageddon to Baal. That veneration could see Dante become something different as well, perhaps more as a living embodiment of the Sanguinor as much as Mephiston is the black rage
Dante doesn't see the Emperor as a god. Seeing Celestine or Macharius, I do think that you need that belief to become an imperial saint. After all, Guilliman did not become some ascended imperial being himself. :/
Drawing a DnD analogy, Grimaldus would be a pretty powerful cleric of the Emperor that might get some spells. Dante is a Chosen paladin who will probably be promoted to avatar of Sanguinus' angel aspect.
@@Archon3960 but at the end of the Dark Imperium trilogy Guilliman does temporarily become a vessel of power despite a lack of belief in the words of the priests around him. Food for thought, if others believe you a saint and you have power, are you?
"I am almost done compiling the histories of Saint Grimaldus, only one thing is missing: what happened to the space nyan cats that fought with him ?" "Orc snipers" "That makes no sense, orc don't have..." "ORC *points to eye*....snipers" "That checks out, orc snipers it is"
they joined the Emperor's Spears and the Star Scorpions in Elara's Veil as part of the Adeptus Valerii (star scorpions being lost and their colours and chapter number being used in the creation of the Mentors Legion). It is stated so (with more said about the Star Scorpions) in Aaron Dembski-bowden's "Spear of the Emperor"
The power of faith has already been well established and we know that it is capable of altering reality itself. I imagine it would be possible that the imperial faith, in the emperor or the saints and so on, could prove to be anathema to the whispers of chaos. The power of faith is growing, as is human nature to turn to the supernatural and spiritual in times of extreme crisis.
I remember listening to the audiobook and watching the animation. Both of those combined are how the Black Templars became my all time favorite loyalist chapter, their steadfastness and sheer unflinching loyalty to the Imperium in spite of everything. Their loyalty to their fathers memory and their defiance of the Codex Astartes, the life of Sigismund himself. They truly are worthy of being the symbol of the Emperor and their fathers rage against the enemy.
Their shining faith as well, magnificent strength and unwavering zealotry will carry mankind through the darkening age. Hopefully to inspire and ignite the faith of the common Imperial citizen as well.
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@@Archon3960 I mean Imperial Saints are basically daemons, just with slightly different rules. Daemons require warp rifts or rituals to materialize. Saints seem to be powered by a mixture of the Emperor's warp powers and belief, allowing them to manifest and perform better when the warp is suppressed. Still, pretty much the same.
@Michal Nemet This isn't exactly true. Faith is a bit different from pure warp energy. The Sisters of Battle can do their manifesting shit just fine around Necron Pylons, Saint Celestine didn't de-materialize when Cadia's Elysian Fields were activated, but daemons can't.
@Michal Nemet While this is true, the Elysian fields when activated LITERALLY were closing the Eye of Terror. So unless you are telling me that the combined psychic presence of a thousand daemon-infested worlds is weaker than the warp energy of Saint Celestine...
How appropriately ironic for 40K it would be for the first of the Living Saint Astartes to come from the sons of Rogal Dorn, who despised the powers of the Warp and whose very presence was anathema to psychers and daemons? I think it would be a perfectly fitting outcome, given the grim humor that permeates the setting. Given his role as the Warden of Imperium Nihilus, I wouldn't be surprised if Dante becomes a living Saint as well, perhaps even in the middle of his prophecied battle in front of the Throne. It would, again, be appropriately ironic for the battle for the life of the Emperor to be decided between a man who was born into an Imperium which worships him as a God and one of the last living men who remembers him as a man, and remembers the Imperial Truth originally taught. But to have it be a man who gives his soul to the Emperor becoming the savior of this twisted Imperium through ascendance to daemonhood, while the man who has stubbornly kept his soul and rejected the offers of daemonhood is the one fighting to destroy it is just such delicious irony that I almost expect it from GW at this point
I love the templars. I’ve been playing them ever since I started playing 40k back in 3rd edition. I’ve even recently started repainting my old models since the new codex came out. Love your content by the way Wolf Lord Rho. You did make one mistake tho. It was the 3rd war for Armageddon that Grimaldus fought in not the 2nd
Rhoe, to speak of Grimaldus, Helsreach, and the book about them and the War for Armagedón without also recommending the equally excellent fan film of the same name borders upon heresy.
So in essence the saints like Celestine are roughly the Emperor's equivalent of a Daemon Prince or Greater Daemon, though probably closer to a prince being a mortal ascended to such powers. If the Emperor's powers in the warp are strengthening to wear he can create and maintain more of these servants, that could represent quite the shift in the Imperium's favor, even if it doesn't mean a resurrection, the Emperor's building ascension to a being in the warp capable of feats and powers equivalent to the Dark Gods would be a blessing to his beleaguered Imperium.
I really like the idea of the warp entity "Emperor", a being connected to, at least a little or maybe a lot, the Emperor of Mankind as solid head cannon in the current lore. Having maybe a bit more lore on the realm of the Warp Emperor (maybe an Imperial palace in the warp?) and actual conformation of the warp entity's exitance in some way would be really nice though. The Legion of The Damned could be expanded/reintroduced, and Imperial Saints are like Daemon Prince equivalents.
I think that Dante could also be considered/become an Imperial Saint. That being said I don't know what level of veneration he receives. Regardless, I feel like listening to Helsreach again now.
@@Archon3960 The Anchorite was a Word Bearer, he was an astartes. Got implanted with everything, has gene-seed. You don't become not a space marine any more because you got badly injured and they stuck you into a coffin with a robot body attached to it. He is technically pretty secret as a person but his words being the foundation for the whole of the imperial faith probably makes up for it. The Sanguinor is more arguable since it's kept mysterious, but one of the most solid theories is that he's Azkaellon, who was the first of the Sanguinary Guard (and iirc got dragged around like a doll by Konrad Curze one time), in which case he's an astartes as well.
@@Archon3960 If you want that to be part of the definition, then maybe it removes the Sanguinor, since he'd be like a sub-saint empowered by Sanguinius' spirit, who is powered by reverence for him as the Emperor's most noble son. But I'd say the Anchorite still counts, with the whole glowing wings, visage of the Emperor, banish demons with a word thing he did.
Rho, what did Darth Vader say to the music store clerk when he found out that they were out of George Michael's cd's? Vader said, "I find your lack of Faith disturbing"
How cool would it be if grimaldus was fighting Kharn and Grimaldus ends up on one knee and Kharn is about to end it, then all of a sudden Sigismunds spirit enters grimaldus like the emperor did with guilliman and then shit gets epic and crazy And you start hearing Sabaton-Last Stand
Grimaldus is the baddest assest, most ork smashingest, one liner shutdown dropping, speech making, number one Astartes. Ever. Give him Guilliman's job and the xenos won't be an issue in 10 solar years.
I think there are several Blood Angels who take that title. First and foremost we have Commander Dante! Then we have Chaplain Lemartes. Then, concurrent to Grimaldus, we have Mephiston. And some time later we have Rafen. Not a "First," but quite possibly the greatest potential Saint. Other Chapters have their own potential Saints as well. To include, potentially, the WHOLE of The Fire Hawks. 😉
Helsreach is why chaplains are my favorite space marine unit My homebrew space marines chapter house siebert the commanding inner circle and companys are lead by two chaplains
Probably part of why Astarties are so stoic, because this my not be the first time citizens of the Imperium have given too much reverence to the space marines.
I am sure there are skins for Dawn of War 1 and 2. And there is a full mod so you can play as the Black Templars. Never tried it, I love the Black Templars, but I am a shooty kind of guy, not into getting my guys in close for close quarter combat. I always outfitted my squads with as many heavy bolters and rocket launchers as possible
Grimaldus is the most badass of the Templars. Maybe even the most badass Astartes. He is the emperors wrath made manifest. Also imagine the Big E's power if the avenging son went all biblical and started spreading faith in the emperor. It would not be hard to believe in gods if the son of one comes up and shows you miracles. There would be no greater proof of the emperors divinity in the 40k universe than Roboute himself..
*missionaries knock on door… loudly* “Hey guys I’m already a member of the chur…. Holy goodness you guys are big” Yes we are from the Cult of Grimauldus….. Ok let me get my stuff. I’m in!!
No joke, imagining Grimaldus as a saint and fighting Angron to the point of sending him back into the Warp is one of the most badass battle sequences I could ever think of.
-Will you lead us in prayer Grimaldus?
-Get out of my city Salamander
That interaction always makes me chuckle
"Your objection is noted.... and duly ignored"
*_Hero of Helsreach...the crowd cheers. As if there is only one._*
The last living long enough to say it
I choked up when I read this line…
I just choked up again… 🥹
How tf aren't there any Astartes Saints already. Bloody Sigismund existed
Cause unlike saint like Celestine, Astartes are generally dicks
It is due to a lack of zeal and/or unbelief imo. Only the Templars are fanatically religious enough to become true imperial saints.
Unless you count the fire Hawks, that is.
Sigismund didn't worship the Emperor...
@@Archon3960 The Fire Hawks are basically daemons though.
He lived during a time when the emperor was a man, not the God he has become
*I have dug my grave in this place today and I will either triumph or I will die!*
*NO FEAR! NO REMORSE! NO MERCY!*
Until the end Brothers!
Goodbye brother.
"I am Reclusiarch, and you will address me as such"
His speech on the walls is the most motivating speech in SciFi settings. If you don't want to purge for the Emperor after that, you're a heretic.
40k is Science Fantasy tho.
@@bgcvetan You sound like a new fan
@@ricardoandre7049 I'm really not. 40k is science fantasy when it is not a table top game.
@@bgcvetanit’s ALSO science fiction
I saw 2 episodes of Richard Boylans fan film of this and it made me get the book, reading the book got me hooked. 4 years later and 260 books read, hundreds of hours of Audio Dramas listened to and multiple games played all I have to say is that WH40k is the greatest sci-do universe EVER!!
For someone who has only read two of the books, where would you advise someone start and is there any kind of order you chose to read the books in or did you just dive in and jump about the various options?
Same, but j started 32 years ago, Heroquest is what got me 😁
@@Uzzgub I got interested in 40k after watching the Russian badger playing with a heavy flamer and needless to say I haven’t been disappointed since
@@Uzzgub you lucky bastard, I’m reading like a madman to finish them all!!
@@Adam-je2xs read the Horus Heresy series first and then go to the 40k stuff but Helsreach was one of the best novels I’ve ever read and I’m in my 50s and read close to 1,000 books in my lifetime. Aaron Dembski-Bowden is a brilliant writer, he wrote amazing stuff in the Horus Heresy too
In regards to Angron's probable return to Armageddon, (just hypothetically) imagine if Kharne came along and, with the Black Templars there, imagine if a version of Sigismund (LotD or Saint) manifested and they had another duel.
Khornite Avatar Kharn vs. Saint Sigismund, that would be one Emperor's damned showdown.
@@irishspartanstudios all of the Legion of the Damned with Ferrus Manus (LotD style) and Saint Sigismund at the head against all the Bloody Horde of Khorne with Angron and Kharn at their head.
@@Scott_the_Celt Two of the strongest primarchs versus the champions of two gods... Let the galaxy burn because that would be incredible!
@@irishspartanstudios well, one Primarch and champion versus another Primarch and champion, but yes.
My favourite 40k book I ever read. Soo many good moments; my most memorable is when Jurisian fire the Ordinatus to destroy the megagargant, and the classic one liner: "Engine Kill".
Also it is wider than the animation in scope (animation is great though), and it shows the Dockyard attack which really broke the defence and forced the last stand.
Have you tried Storm of Iron, very good book
@@Uzzgub Not a fan of the heretic POV.
Richard Boylans fan film of Helsreach was my entry into 40k. Love me a bit of Black Templars 👍
I first saw it and thought, "What the hell is this."
Then I fell down the rabbit-hole.
FOR THE EMPEROR!
When FAN animation do great advertising then GW themselves...
Grimaldus, he is just an all around beast.
“I have dug my grave in this place and I will either triumph or die”
Grimaldus , The Hero of Helsreach..... enough said!
He disagrees.
@@RobouteGuilliman-M41 Alot like The Emperor being a God, it's not up to him! 😎
You can watch a fanbased animated movie of helsreach here on CZcams. It's made around the audio book of helsreach.
I highly recommend it, it's absolutely brilliant!
Huh I can see Grimaldus easily, but what about Dante? The Blood Angels may not believe in the way the Ecclesiarchy does but the faith of the Blood, the faith they put in the words and visions of Sanguinius (who is already practically a ‘dead’ saint), and the sheer number of people across the Imperium who venerate Dante from Armageddon to Baal. That veneration could see Dante become something different as well, perhaps more as a living embodiment of the Sanguinor as much as Mephiston is the black rage
Dante doesn't see the Emperor as a god. Seeing Celestine or Macharius, I do think that you need that belief to become an imperial saint. After all, Guilliman did not become some ascended imperial being himself. :/
Also the blood angels have the sanguinor, so it pretty much counts as a saint.
Drawing a DnD analogy, Grimaldus would be a pretty powerful cleric of the Emperor that might get some spells. Dante is a Chosen paladin who will probably be promoted to avatar of Sanguinus' angel aspect.
Of anything the blood angels created Sanguinios again and that creation is the saint of their group. I cant member the name of it atm
@@Archon3960 but at the end of the Dark Imperium trilogy Guilliman does temporarily become a vessel of power despite a lack of belief in the words of the priests around him. Food for thought, if others believe you a saint and you have power, are you?
The first Astartes Saint is The Sanguinor
"Sons and daughters of the Imperium, our blood is the blood of heroes and martyrs!"
"I am almost done compiling the histories of Saint Grimaldus, only one thing is missing: what happened to the space nyan cats that fought with him ?"
"Orc snipers"
"That makes no sense, orc don't have..."
"ORC *points to eye*....snipers"
"That checks out, orc snipers it is"
they joined the Emperor's Spears and the Star Scorpions in Elara's Veil as part of the Adeptus Valerii (star scorpions being lost and their colours and chapter number being used in the creation of the Mentors Legion). It is stated so (with more said about the Star Scorpions) in Aaron Dembski-bowden's "Spear of the Emperor"
Marneus Calgar is already considered a saint. Look at the lore blurb in the new Nachmund gauntlet book
I'd love to see St. Cain and his loyal retainer- Jurgen, it'd be time to start collecting Vallhallens.
Actually, Garro is the first saint Astartes. A martyr, to be exact.
Well rho did say the Astartes version of Celestine. A living saint. The ones with powers and such
@@squirrelking4174 Well, maybe we will find out this moment in the new HH novel, when Garro will fight against Mortarion.
The follow up to helsresch is phenomenal as well
The power of faith has already been well established and we know that it is capable of altering reality itself. I imagine it would be possible that the imperial faith, in the emperor or the saints and so on, could prove to be anathema to the whispers of chaos. The power of faith is growing, as is human nature to turn to the supernatural and spiritual in times of extreme crisis.
The animation about Grimaldus fighting in The Battle for Hellsreach is a classic! If you haven't seen it on CZcams you're missing out!
Hellsreach was the first Warhammer book I came across, and it ignited my love for the 40K universe. Amazing book!
I remember listening to the audiobook and watching the animation. Both of those combined are how the Black Templars became my all time favorite loyalist chapter, their steadfastness and sheer unflinching loyalty to the Imperium in spite of everything. Their loyalty to their fathers memory and their defiance of the Codex Astartes, the life of Sigismund himself. They truly are worthy of being the symbol of the Emperor and their fathers rage against the enemy.
Their shining faith as well, magnificent strength and unwavering zealotry will carry mankind through the darkening age. Hopefully to inspire and ignite the faith of the common Imperial citizen as well.
Third War, yes? Wasnt the Second War from what I remember...
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The Reclusiarch is a man of the deepest faith that is as unshakable as it is pure. If any were to ascend then Grimaldus is the most worthy.
Just introduced my friend to 40k with "battle for helsreach" the movie on CZcams
The timing can't get any better
Cheese and crackers. There is background mood music. I’ve been listening to you for a long time. Today was the first time I linked you through my house speakers. Never noticed this before. It a nice touch. Keep up the good work.
Are we forgetting about the Sanguinor...? Or the Legion of the Damned?
They are respectively a shard of Sanguinius and imperial deamons in my opinion, so I do not think that they can qualify. :/
@@Archon3960 I mean Imperial Saints are basically daemons, just with slightly different rules. Daemons require warp rifts or rituals to materialize. Saints seem to be powered by a mixture of the Emperor's warp powers and belief, allowing them to manifest and perform better when the warp is suppressed. Still, pretty much the same.
@Michal Nemet This isn't exactly true. Faith is a bit different from pure warp energy. The Sisters of Battle can do their manifesting shit just fine around Necron Pylons, Saint Celestine didn't de-materialize when Cadia's Elysian Fields were activated, but daemons can't.
@Michal Nemet While this is true, the Elysian fields when activated LITERALLY were closing the Eye of Terror. So unless you are telling me that the combined psychic presence of a thousand daemon-infested worlds is weaker than the warp energy of Saint Celestine...
Grimaldus puts the fan in fanatic.
How appropriately ironic for 40K it would be for the first of the Living Saint Astartes to come from the sons of Rogal Dorn, who despised the powers of the Warp and whose very presence was anathema to psychers and daemons? I think it would be a perfectly fitting outcome, given the grim humor that permeates the setting.
Given his role as the Warden of Imperium Nihilus, I wouldn't be surprised if Dante becomes a living Saint as well, perhaps even in the middle of his prophecied battle in front of the Throne. It would, again, be appropriately ironic for the battle for the life of the Emperor to be decided between a man who was born into an Imperium which worships him as a God and one of the last living men who remembers him as a man, and remembers the Imperial Truth originally taught. But to have it be a man who gives his soul to the Emperor becoming the savior of this twisted Imperium through ascendance to daemonhood, while the man who has stubbornly kept his soul and rejected the offers of daemonhood is the one fighting to destroy it is just such delicious irony that I almost expect it from GW at this point
I love the templars. I’ve been playing them ever since I started playing 40k back in 3rd edition. I’ve even recently started repainting my old models since the new codex came out.
Love your content by the way Wolf Lord Rho.
You did make one mistake tho. It was the 3rd war for Armageddon that Grimaldus fought in not the 2nd
Rhoe, to speak of Grimaldus, Helsreach, and the book about them and the War for Armagedón without also recommending the equally excellent fan film of the same name borders upon heresy.
Saint Grimaldus VS. Demon Primarch Angron? Yes please!!!
But Rho you need to cover every fact about Magnus the Red's glorious golden nipple horns
Garro the Saint incoming as well as Sigi if the lore goes this way
Faith isn't a traditional form of psychic energy, it's the Human equivalent of the Wargh field in orks
If you don't have time for the Helsreach book, you can watch it in a 3 hour fan movie on CZcams
The hero of Helsreach.... As if there was only one.
That would be an amazing read and addition to the lore.
Helsreach (The Fan Movie) is what got me into Warhammer
So in essence the saints like Celestine are roughly the Emperor's equivalent of a Daemon Prince or Greater Daemon, though probably closer to a prince being a mortal ascended to such powers. If the Emperor's powers in the warp are strengthening to wear he can create and maintain more of these servants, that could represent quite the shift in the Imperium's favor, even if it doesn't mean a resurrection, the Emperor's building ascension to a being in the warp capable of feats and powers equivalent to the Dark Gods would be a blessing to his beleaguered Imperium.
Grimaldus comes off as a Grumpy Old Grampa. So great.
Rho you forgot that the first Saint Astarteas was Sarpedon of the Soul Drinkers
I really like the idea of the warp entity "Emperor", a being connected to, at least a little or maybe a lot, the Emperor of Mankind as solid head cannon in the current lore. Having maybe a bit more lore on the realm of the Warp Emperor (maybe an Imperial palace in the warp?) and actual conformation of the warp entity's exitance in some way would be really nice though. The Legion of The Damned could be expanded/reintroduced, and Imperial Saints are like Daemon Prince equivalents.
Church falling on his head and he made sure to get off that last plasma shot.
Grimaldus may use the "Through me so your prayers are heard" angle.
>the man got a titan to walk through sheer force of charisma
Sheer force of having a kind face akshually
Forget Gimaldus, can we get Sigismund?
Imagine him as a saint on the field of battle... (DoomSlayer with a null sword)
Great job on the video as always lad.
And welcome to the eternal crusade... brother. Suffer not the unclean
"RUN, ALIEN DOGS COME TO US ALL, COME TO DIE IN BLOOD AND FIRE"
“Hero of Helsreach!” They cried. As if there was only one…
ALL HAIL!!!! SAINT GRIMALDUS!!!! I like the sound of it.
helsreach was the fist warhammer book I read, and still one of my favourites
The path of the Dark Templars mirrors more and more the path of the old word bearers, opening them up to a similar fall…
Not a chance.
'Grimaldus, a Demon Prince in the making.'
St. Grimaldus and Lion take down Angry Ron? I'd like that.
I think that Dante could also be considered/become an Imperial Saint. That being said I don't know what level of veneration he receives. Regardless, I feel like listening to Helsreach again now.
The book is far superior
Wouldn't the Sanguinor or the Anchorite of Almace be the first astartes saints?
The Anchorite is just a Dreadnought (and not fairly known by that) while the Sanguinor isn't even a (true) Space Marine. :/
@@Archon3960 The Anchorite was a Word Bearer, he was an astartes. Got implanted with everything, has gene-seed. You don't become not a space marine any more because you got badly injured and they stuck you into a coffin with a robot body attached to it. He is technically pretty secret as a person but his words being the foundation for the whole of the imperial faith probably makes up for it. The Sanguinor is more arguable since it's kept mysterious, but one of the most solid theories is that he's Azkaellon, who was the first of the Sanguinary Guard (and iirc got dragged around like a doll by Konrad Curze one time), in which case he's an astartes as well.
@@Kunori Just so you know, I am viewing im0erial s1ints as individuals empowered big the Big E. Not just religious figures for the Ecclesiarchy.
@@Archon3960 If you want that to be part of the definition, then maybe it removes the Sanguinor, since he'd be like a sub-saint empowered by Sanguinius' spirit, who is powered by reverence for him as the Emperor's most noble son. But I'd say the Anchorite still counts, with the whole glowing wings, visage of the Emperor, banish demons with a word thing he did.
I'd be more interested in a Tech Priest Saint. Saint Caul?
Grim al dus , is how I say it sound weird when your saying the name haha .
Rho, what did Darth Vader say to the music store clerk when he found out that they were out of George Michael's cd's? Vader said, "I find your lack of Faith disturbing"
I know. Bad joke! But you started it, Rho!
Ave Saint Grimaldus and his herald Andrej
How cool would it be if grimaldus was fighting Kharn and Grimaldus ends up on one knee and Kharn is about to end it, then all of a sudden Sigismunds spirit enters grimaldus like the emperor did with guilliman and then shit gets epic and crazy
And you start hearing Sabaton-Last Stand
Haven't we already got an Astartes saint .... The Sanguinor, or demi saint (if there would be such a thing)
Yep. Arks of Omen looks like Angron will assault Armageddon. “The Shattered World” was one of the tarot cards. I think that’s Armageddon.
Grimaldus is the baddest assest, most ork smashingest, one liner shutdown dropping, speech making, number one Astartes. Ever. Give him Guilliman's job and the xenos won't be an issue in 10 solar years.
I think there are several Blood Angels who take that title. First and foremost we have Commander Dante!
Then we have Chaplain Lemartes.
Then, concurrent to Grimaldus, we have Mephiston.
And some time later we have Rafen. Not a "First," but quite possibly the greatest potential Saint.
Other Chapters have their own potential Saints as well. To include, potentially, the WHOLE of The Fire Hawks. 😉
Lemartes is a beast. One of my favorite characters.
Also he did more than simply get the princeps to walk, he LITERALLY woke her from a coma like state
Helsreach is why chaplains are my favorite space marine unit
My homebrew space marines chapter house siebert the commanding inner circle and companys are lead by two chaplains
Probably part of why Astarties are so stoic, because this my not be the first time citizens of the Imperium have given too much reverence to the space marines.
The Sanguinor, the Legion of the Damned, ect... I think these are the analogue of Saints in all but name.
7:37 I now need a Helsreach dub over set to a George Michael soundtrack.
may brother grimaldus fight hard blessed be the god emperor
Have they ever made a good computer game about the Black Templars? I can't think of one. If they haven't, they really freaking should.
I am sure there are skins for Dawn of War 1 and 2. And there is a full mod so you can play as the Black Templars. Never tried it, I love the Black Templars, but I am a shooty kind of guy, not into getting my guys in close for close quarter combat. I always outfitted my squads with as many heavy bolters and rocket launchers as possible
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 You can always play them in _Space Marine_ in the multiplayer. B)
As a Black Templar fan, I'm so for this (second only to Sigismund come back and scare the ever living hell out of Abbadon)
The boy deserves it. He's one hell of a warrior.
Grimaldus is the most badass of the Templars. Maybe even the most badass Astartes. He is the emperors wrath made manifest. Also imagine the Big E's power if the avenging son went all biblical and started spreading faith in the emperor. It would not be hard to believe in gods if the son of one comes up and shows you miracles. There would be no greater proof of the emperors divinity in the 40k universe than Roboute himself..
I hope you dont find this weird to point out, you have a phenomenal voice to fall asleep to!
*missionaries knock on door… loudly*
“Hey guys I’m already a member of the chur…. Holy goodness you guys are big”
Yes we are from the Cult of Grimauldus…..
Ok let me get my stuff. I’m in!!
"The Hero of Helsreach...................as if there were only one."
saints instead of psykers for the black templar! :O
If Grimaldus comes back as a Saint, wouldn't that make him a Warp being? A self-deprecating Warp being?
If Grimaldus is not a Saint, then someone is not seeing the possibility that he was the arm of Big E on Armageddon.
No joke, imagining Grimaldus as a saint and fighting Angron to the point of sending him back into the Warp is one of the most badass battle sequences I could ever think of.
I used Grimaldus and a Dawn Eagle Jet Bike to kit bash DA Samael
We are the cult of Grimaldus, the fans of Helsreach
I face alot of templars players. They love grimaldus more than any other character in their armies lol.
St Grimaldus!!! Yes I like that . The Grimaldus crusade.
Where can I find that first image for a desktop background ?!
Saint Grimaldus, now what will happens if he asends to a Living Saint, by the Emperor.
1:10 Grimaldus fought at the 3rd War for Armageddon. Not the 2nd.
I think the point is that the Imperium doesn't admit the Chaos invasion ever happened.
Why does Grimaldus hate Sanguinala so much?
The hero of Hellsreach as if there is only one
Hi Rho.
Id join that Cult....without hesitation
Honestly though the cults themselves worshipping grim over the emperor would be seen as blasphemy by grim himself
He has kind eyes.