Hard to argue although Issei does get pretty smart during later battles and is able to think on his feet, even leading the rest when Rias wasn't around. Also, Season 5❤Can't wait.
You realize you put "anime only" right? Vali would destroy Issei in the current anime. I'm honestly waiting for them to catch up to the current light novel part.😅
@@calem_son_of_nyx which is why I said I'd give sacred gear 50/50 season 2 Issei had nothing on Vali. All Vali did during their fight was just toy with him anyway
First off vali is faster and second vali can use juggernaut drive anytime he wants issei can’t plus vali has all his royal devil power there is no way issei can beat vali come on
I had noticed this many times, that issei is often underestimated in battle iq, i mean bro he developed his own new techniques for the battle, (you know what i mean), which were quite useful, not only that even in his battle with phoenix he won it just because of his brilliant battle iq, even with his fight with vali, he used his divine dividing to his own advantage, also in the raiding game against phoenix, he merged his and kiba's sword birth, to finish off phoenix's evil pieces in a single shot, all of these incidents are enough to prove his amazing battle iq
Yes of course issei has some good battle IQ, no one is saying he doesn’t. He just isn’t Vali in my opinion. Vali has been training with Azazel, one of the smartest characters in DxD, for his whole life. He learned a lot from Azazel and was able to unlock his balance breaker at a young age. Vali is what you would call a genius, he was easily one of the best sacred gear users out there. He is incredibly skilled in everything. Issei does show some impressive BIQ (battle IQ) against Vali, he came up with the idea to transfer his power to him and break his balance breaker. What the anime doesn’t show you is that doing that was a bad idea. It was a bad idea because it completely drained issei, and Vali just put his Balance breaker back on. It was a good idea, but it wasn’t an amazing idea and it ended up doing more harm than good. Yes, the video does say anime only, but since the battle I’m talking about is before volume 11 I would say it still counts. Issei was able to take Vali’s power and use divine dividing on Vali. Vali then adapted to that and made it to where issei couldn’t use it on him. Issei had no counter to this, showing that Vali had outsmarted him. Lets not forget Vali was holding back a lot in that fight. If he really wanted to be could have shown his true BIQ, but he wanted to see how strong issei was instead. Vali is easily able to learn the attack patterns of anyone he faces and can adapt to them. A lot of Issei battle strategies are came up with in desperate attempts. Him taking Vali’s power was his last attempt to beat Vali. in the light novel, He even said he was desperate when doing that. The transfer thing with riser’s pieces wasn’t issei’s idea, it was ddraig. You even see this in the anime, when issei looks at his arm and then thinks for a second. He developed his own technique, but that was out of grit and perversion, not battle IQ. It is stated multiple times that you can do anything with the sacred gear as long as you have the determination. Issei has that determination and he was able to do it. The battle with riser was kind of battle good battle IQ, more good memory and riser being arrogant. Issei put together the cross and holy water plan because he remembered what Asia said about it being fatal to devils. Now, he was able to figure out transferring the power to his sacred gear. That was a good idea. Issei shows signs of low Battle IQ in the anime too. He is easily overwhelmed by people that are stronger and smarter than him. The battle with Cao Cao is an example of this, he broke down and started crying. If it wasn’t for elsha and belzard he would’ve gave up. If it wasn’t for Wukong he would have died. Being able to keep your cool is a sign of high battle IQ, which Vali can do. Kiba is another excellent example of this. He is able to fight against issei, despite being a lot weaker. He’s able to do this by using his brain and speed. If he gets I hit once it’s over, but he’s still able to fight with him. Experience and BIQ also usually go together. Vali has been fighting since he was a little kid, he’s been training his whole life. He has increased his BIQ to an impressive level. Cao Cao is another character with an extremely high BIQ, and he did the same thing Vali did. He didn’t try hard because he didn’t need to. Issei does have a decent battle IQ, but it’s not on Vali’s level.
Vali would win easily if u are talking about anime version coz ....Vali doesn't need get stronger just because his president's boobs are gonna get divided ....but issei needs a source or someone to be injured in order to be strong and use juggernaut
@@Thephenomenalon1 yes, I know what you are saying. I’m genuinely asking a question. Light novel issei beats Vali, so I was wondering if I was going off of the LN or the anime
@@Thephenomenalon1 alright yes I am going off of the anime. I think it’s really close, but I’m going with issei. I’m going off of season 3 Vali, he was able to take down a juggernaut issei in a short amount of time. That’s the strongest version of Vali we see. He beat an uncontrolled issei and had to go juggernaut for it, but later in season 4 issei releases a controlled version of that juggernaut power against Cao Cao. Then even later on he powers up a lot more against Sairaorg. He even said “Vali and Cao Cao were powerful, but Sairaorg is on a whole different level.” Issei was able to pull off the victory. I think if we actually saw Vali in season 4 I could give it to him, but season 3 was the last time we really got to see Vali fight. I just can’t go off of the possibility of him getting stronger. When Issei powers up once he automatically unlocks that power. We see this in the fight with Cao Cao he powered up and then later used that power against Sairaorg. I do think it can go to Vali, but I’m picking issei if we are going off of juggernaut Vali and issei cardinal crimson promotion.
Cap yall cappin 😂 bro sacred gear is not a category and feats vali has more plus vali been having his balance breaker issei had to touch some tits to finally complete it
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I already posted this, but I accidentally put speed twice so I fixed it
Issei is more brilliant than Vali I think. Remember, he used the cross and holy water against the main villain in high school DXD season 1
I’d rather be issei. I mean the dude literally has like 40+ women and plot armour
İssei crimson form>vali
Hard to argue although Issei does get pretty smart during later battles and is able to think on his feet, even leading the rest when Rias wasn't around. Also, Season 5❤Can't wait.
Vali es más fuerte que issei... Más issei es más compatible con el poder del dragón
No matter how powerful Issei is, my favorite between the two will always be Vali
At least he's better than Issei who gets everything for free
issei is very dramatic
I just finished watching it and I’m going crazy to be issei irl and I keep yelling boost😂
Nah me told my mom that there is fallen angel outside and go rush saying boost then balance breaker
My reaction when I realize 💀
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Battle Iq goes to isse
w h a t ?
Dawg i thought if Issei squeezed those juggs he could solo
so no one talking about how issei stole vali power imagine the potential of issei stealing something else hmm ?
Issei doesnt win......
He obliterates
Battle ip is not vali
The Power of tities is unbreakable 😂
i got both new and old one recommended together so i just swipe up and down and just kept hearing Nig- Niga- Niga-
Badly waiting for season 5
Jelas lah MC harus menang
No one can beat our boob dragon🙂
😂❤
Agree 10000🔥🔥
Considering vali effortlessly defeated juggernaut drive issei I still argue vali wins.
corrupted juggernaut drive
You realize you put "anime only" right? Vali would destroy Issei in the current anime. I'm honestly waiting for them to catch up to the current light novel part.😅
You forget pervy girls
The only thing I would give Issei in this is weapons nothing else sacred gear is mostly 50/50
albion and draig are basically equals
@@calem_son_of_nyx which is why I said I'd give sacred gear 50/50 season 2 Issei had nothing on Vali. All Vali did during their fight was just toy with him anyway
Cap🤷🥱🥱
Nope. Issei wins this battle High-extreme difficulty
Issei also have the power of rias
Yeah but also He stole the divine ability from albion
Imagine season 5 he suck dem ykw
the powerrrrrr
Edit:Pause but like fr goku won't compete
Vali>>Issei
Can,t wait for s5
Spoiler issei dies
@@bruhmoment8624 he dies in season 3 lol
he didnt even die lol
@@bruhmoment8624I know and he will alive too
Can't wait to see more of rias and issei relationship
Balance breaker
You forgot that vali has demonn lords blood
Like hell
I think Vali is faster than Issei
Issei bcz of boost is more faster although Vali could also get just as fast as issei by dividing Issei's power
First off vali is faster and second vali can use juggernaut drive anytime he wants issei can’t plus vali has all his royal devil power there is no way issei can beat vali come on
In light novel issei had surpassed while Vali is only on the level of heavenly dragons Issei is dragon god level
I had noticed this many times, that issei is often underestimated in battle iq, i mean bro he developed his own new techniques for the battle, (you know what i mean), which were quite useful, not only that even in his battle with phoenix he won it just because of his brilliant battle iq, even with his fight with vali, he used his divine dividing to his own advantage, also in the raiding game against phoenix, he merged his and kiba's sword birth, to finish off phoenix's evil pieces in a single shot, all of these incidents are enough to prove his amazing battle iq
Yes of course issei has some good battle IQ, no one is saying he doesn’t. He just isn’t Vali in my opinion. Vali has been training with Azazel, one of the smartest characters in DxD, for his whole life. He learned a lot from Azazel and was able to unlock his balance breaker at a young age. Vali is what you would call a genius, he was easily one of the best sacred gear users out there. He is incredibly skilled in everything. Issei does show some impressive BIQ (battle IQ) against Vali, he came up with the idea to transfer his power to him and break his balance breaker. What the anime doesn’t show you is that doing that was a bad idea. It was a bad idea because it completely drained issei, and Vali just put his Balance breaker back on. It was a good idea, but it wasn’t an amazing idea and it ended up doing more harm than good. Yes, the video does say anime only, but since the battle I’m talking about is before volume 11 I would say it still counts. Issei was able to take Vali’s power and use divine dividing on Vali. Vali then adapted to that and made it to where issei couldn’t use it on him. Issei had no counter to this, showing that Vali had outsmarted him. Lets not forget Vali was holding back a lot in that fight. If he really wanted to be could have shown his true BIQ, but he wanted to see how strong issei was instead. Vali is easily able to learn the attack patterns of anyone he faces and can adapt to them. A lot of Issei battle strategies are came up with in desperate attempts. Him taking Vali’s power was his last attempt to beat Vali. in the light novel, He even said he was desperate when doing that. The transfer thing with riser’s pieces wasn’t issei’s idea, it was ddraig. You even see this in the anime, when issei looks at his arm and then thinks for a second. He developed his own technique, but that was out of grit and perversion, not battle IQ. It is stated multiple times that you can do anything with the sacred gear as long as you have the determination. Issei has that determination and he was able to do it. The battle with riser was kind of battle good battle IQ, more good memory and riser being arrogant. Issei put together the cross and holy water plan because he remembered what Asia said about it being fatal to devils. Now, he was able to figure out transferring the power to his sacred gear. That was a good idea. Issei shows signs of low Battle IQ in the anime too. He is easily overwhelmed by people that are stronger and smarter than him. The battle with Cao Cao is an example of this, he broke down and started crying. If it wasn’t for elsha and belzard he would’ve gave up. If it wasn’t for Wukong he would have died. Being able to keep your cool is a sign of high battle IQ, which Vali can do. Kiba is another excellent example of this. He is able to fight against issei, despite being a lot weaker. He’s able to do this by using his brain and speed. If he gets I hit once it’s over, but he’s still able to fight with him. Experience and BIQ also usually go together. Vali has been fighting since he was a little kid, he’s been training his whole life. He has increased his BIQ to an impressive level. Cao Cao is another character with an extremely high BIQ, and he did the same thing Vali did. He didn’t try hard because he didn’t need to. Issei does have a decent battle IQ, but it’s not on Vali’s level.
@@ThevaliluciferThe guy is so amazing he put a bible
What's The Song Name?
Deadz by migos
I got divine dividing over boosted gear tbh
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Idc if Issei is more powerful, you're the G.O.A.T and always will be ;)
Finally someone is willing to admit the truth
Depends in the latest novel.
of couse i'm the winner 😆😆
I got more drip
me too 🙄
@@ISSEITHEREWRITER no you dont
@@Thevalilucifer yes i have i'm harem king do you have any harem haha😂😂
@@ISSEITHEREWRITER imagine needing a harem to validate yourself
Vali would win easily if u are talking about anime version coz ....Vali doesn't need get stronger just because his president's boobs are gonna get divided ....but issei needs a source or someone to be injured in order to be strong and use juggernaut
Did I say anime only? I can’t remember
@@Thevalilucifer I'm saying if you are talking about anime version it's a metaphor...."if"
@@Thephenomenalon1 yes, I know what you are saying. I’m genuinely asking a question. Light novel issei beats Vali, so I was wondering if I was going off of the LN or the anime
@@Thevalilucifer yes light novel issei would defeat Vali and anime version would surpass him anyways
@@Thephenomenalon1 alright yes I am going off of the anime. I think it’s really close, but I’m going with issei. I’m going off of season 3 Vali, he was able to take down a juggernaut issei in a short amount of time. That’s the strongest version of Vali we see. He beat an uncontrolled issei and had to go juggernaut for it, but later in season 4 issei releases a controlled version of that juggernaut power against Cao Cao. Then even later on he powers up a lot more against Sairaorg. He even said “Vali and Cao Cao were powerful, but Sairaorg is on a whole different level.” Issei was able to pull off the victory. I think if we actually saw Vali in season 4 I could give it to him, but season 3 was the last time we really got to see Vali fight. I just can’t go off of the possibility of him getting stronger. When Issei powers up once he automatically unlocks that power. We see this in the fight with Cao Cao he powered up and then later used that power against Sairaorg. I do think it can go to Vali, but I’m picking issei if we are going off of juggernaut Vali and issei cardinal crimson promotion.
Vali can use the juggernaut so he wins
Vali wins in a drip off
So can Issei lol
@@assassin_5656 I haven't read the manga sorry
@@Natsu_Dragoneel He can use it in the anime too. Though if we use novel versions Issei is arguably the strongest in the verse
Quite frankly i prefer albion the wings are better than the gauntlet and the white armour just looks better 🤷🏻♂️
Yes yes, I agree my armor looks way better
You know issei gets the same wings
Same I perfer Albions wings and armour
@@sin634 No he doesnt. The wings are valis sacred gear while issei has the gauntlet. And their wings look completely different
The author considered Boosted Gear to be superior to Vali's Divine Division
If issei boobs guy then vali is a ass guy
Issei op :D
Light novel issei very op
@@Thevalilucifer planet universe or multiverse what level of power he posses
@@ALI-wr3ncPretty sure as of now he’s planetary and great red is universal. However i don’t read LN im just saying what ive been told
Cap yall cappin 😂 bro sacred gear is not a category and feats vali has more plus vali been having his balance breaker issei had to touch some tits to finally complete it
i would say speed would go to u but man downplayed himself
Had to, I’m locked up in issei’s basement
@@Thevalilucifer oh so hes just into girls.... ok can u send me the cordinates imma come help u
28.3772° N, 81.5707° W
Please hurry!
@@Thevalilucifer whats ya doing in disney land???? in orlando does issei own disney no wonder my disney moms are so hmmmm
@@RYYGE You figured out the Disney mom mystery! He was behind it all, I don’t think I’m getting out of here…
I Forgot He Became the Embodiment of possibility and became the strongest red dragon
Anime only
Limiter broken issei from hero would force vali to go juggernaut and vali still might get wrecked
@@gamerblisters All vali has to do is use emperio juggernaut drive and then he washes issei. Only at that point though.
@@dubbchug8738 true diablos dragon god would put vali down let's not talk about AAA
@@knujahjoseph3419 That's why i said only at that point
U both have longanus :D long anus hhhaha
Vali don't downplay yourself you Woop his ass or are you saying that the strongest white dragon loses to the we weakest red one
I got paid to say this, so You know I had to hype Issei up
Actually vali are the strongest holders of their sacred gears tho
@@Kohtuporaa yeah but the Mc is always going to win
Do y’all know what issei become s in the future blows vali out the water
@@iceninja6649 that’s what I’m saying