The Rise & Fall of SYSTEM OF A DOWN
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What is the strange history of System Of A Down? From early songs like "Sugar" to "Toxicity" and "Chop Suey,? I look at the history of System Of A Down including Serj Tankian, Daron Malakian, Shavo Odadjian, John Dolmayan and more.
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0:00 Intro
2:33 Early years of SOAD
6:17 "Toxicity"
10:24 "Steal This Album"
13:28 Hiatus & reunion - Zábava
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Now alice in chains and or screaming trees pls?
Please do review of disturbed of origin, and how's disturbed did it and what is their last impact on their legacy?
Tired of all these pop up laziness apps. Who wants to pay 250% for food?
It’s not called Turkey today, it’s Türkiye
they never "Fall "
System of a Down: the Armenians we needed.
Kardashians: the Armenians we got.
Hahaha 😂
We got both of them
LoL are you sure they are that much different? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao 😂
Sad I'm armenian
Considering Finn isn’t a personal fan of SOAD, it’s nice to continue knowing he knows his shit and understands music far past his own musical preference.
Most real music fans do though...I love to educate myself on bands IDC much for because even if you don't like a band you should at least respect them for their contributions and their influence. Also, just because he isn't a fan doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't like and appreciate their music. IDK if I would call myself a SOAD fan but even I own their ST and Toxicity CD because I'm just a huge music fan and I do have some nostalgic memories connected with those albums.
Exactly! Music appreciation is a great skill and that’s how you know someone is a true music lover. He can appreciate the best in music even if he’s not a fan. Wish more people were like that
Why he don’t like SOAD? Poser?🤣
It’s legit my favorite thing about Finn and why I respect him so much. He shits on awesome bands but ABSOLUTELY respects what these bands accomplished and how they accomplished it. Fantastic channel.
This and the RHCP video prove that, even if Finn isn’t the biggest fan of either band, he’s still fair and willing to show respect to their extremely successful, unique careers. That’s a really admirable quality.
Much respect for making an unbiased video about an important band that you personally don't much care for.
It's called "content creation" and it's the guy's job.
Classic bad taste Finn
@@MaYstructionTrue...but I've definitely seen other content creators pull out the most biased, negative takes on subjects they don't care for, so it's still praiseworthy, sadly...
@@Tardisntimbits well, I mean, it's your channel so you can do what you want. Fact is, people click on stuff they like so it makes more money to not shit on anyone or anything.
Sounds like he has bad taste
While i wish we would've gotten more music from SOAD, I'm grateful for what we have. Still listen to them to this day.
Hey, at least they were really productive while they were making music, I mean they put out five albums in eight years…. So yeah, definitely grateful for what we have.
@@jeremysiron9622 and the albums were consistent
Bro , every song is a banger . Love them .
I love them, too, just listend to 4 Albums yesterday. Listend to them for 20 years but knew nothing about them until today. xD (Except for that they are from Armenia or something like that.)
Why were they concerned that Germans would not know what Armenia is? I guess we tend to know it better than US Americans. oO Doesn't play a big role for the music anyway, music connects people, no matter where they are from. I hate racism. xD (I know, wow, very deep.)
Your videos are the closest to what MTV would be today if MTV was still itself. Thank you for the nostalgia and facts about bands we all love or loved at one point
MTV was literally about playing new music videos, not doing long form essay pieces on old eras of music.
MTV used to be about music.. It was in the name!
Now its about teen moms and junkies...
If VH1 didn't become BET 2.0 and still aired Behind the Music.
Nah he gives more fuse vibes,
The way I see it, they went out on top, and left people wanting more. And that’s a much better legacy than fizzling out and having people wanting you to go away. If they never make another record, I’m at peace with it.
At the same time, when I see a band like System go through the interpersonal struggles that they have, it’s definitely increased my appreciation for bands who stick around forever with the same lineup. That’s just not easy to do.
Couldn't agree more.
I'm mad because you're right..but I want more music and I need it now!!! 😢
Agreed, there was no downfall
I respect and appreciate them immensely for the way they “tapped out”
For not driving the band into a brick wall, changing style or going into petty fights.
Who’d have thought the band who sings about pulling tapeworms out is the classiest of the bunch!! Absolute die hard soad fan!! ❤
Didn't they kick out the drummer because he was "RiGhT wiNg"? Sounds kinda petty to me lol
@@timmytuckerson3450 I guess u didn’t watch any of the video.
But no, they didn’t kick out the drummer bc he’s right wing. Lol!
What are you talking about? The reason why they haven't released music in over a decade is because of petty fights. They've also thrown shade at each other for years while still touring together. It's idiotic how they can still tour, but can't record any new music due to egos. Darren literally said this year that Serj doesn't even want to be in the band anymore and hasn't for years.
@@muccmaster They don’t record new albums bc they’ve evolved into different things. Everyone knows serj isn’t into the heavier sound anymore and he’s like the first one to admit it. That doesn’t mean they don’t like each other. It’s actually the opposite, I’ve only heard them say amazing things about each other.
Yes, they could boot serj, but out of RESPECT, they do not. I appreciate they want to try to keep the system “sound” I fell in love with. If that means no more music then so be it.
It would hurt way more if they changed their sound and came out with like a pop record, or hired a new singer bc all I would ever want to hear is serj.
I’d kill for a new album or tour, I need to take my kids!! Lol!! But for now, I’m just happy their not pulling slipknot. Just my opinion tho.
I hate what happened to Korn and Slipknot. I have total respect for SOAD no longer making new music.
I will always be proud to say that I got into this band on the ground floor. My girlfriend at the time in 1998 played the debut album cassette in my car while we drove around doing shit and it blew my mind. I bought the cd immediately afterwards. Then I got on their street team (remember those?) and passed out fliers and shit at local shows. In 2001 I was emailed “Chop Suey” for Windows Media Player about 3 weeks before “Toxicity” dropped and my jaw hit the floor again. I have many fond memories of playing the hell out of those first two albums and showing them to friends and getting their reactions. Then, Chop Suey, Toxicity and Aerials blew up and the rest is history.
Same
Bring back street teams! I don't go to as many shows anymore... I was on everyone's street team so I went to all the shows for free!
Marry that girl🥰
Back in '98 I remember thinking their singer sounded like Jello Biafra .... and later being surprised they hit it so big, because their sound is so different .
Definitely loved that album ,sends me right back to 1998
Yeah, I was in high school at the time, in 10th grade, I remember it was actually an album that both the metal heads and the pucks loved. The punks jumped ship with “Toxicity” but for that one album they were united…
Toxicity is one of those few albums where every song is great. It's like the Enema Of the State of hard rock.
As a person whose favorite bands are blink-182 and SOAD, absolutely
Dude for reals. Toxicity is definitely a 10/10 album. To me personally their other albums are alright with good songs but they don’t compare to Toxicity. That album is on a whole other level.
Their self titled and mesmerize are no skip albums for me as well as toxicity.
For real, i never thought i liked them until i found that album in a cd case my brother left behind. It was mind bending to me and i had to listen to it continuously for damn near a year. Then i went on to buy the rest of there catalogue good stuff!
@@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 NO. WAY. I thought I was the only one. Cheers my friend.
I wouldn't say they had a fall. Tbh if they came out and said they are making a album everyone would go nuts
This was my first thought when I saw the title... Excuse me, FALL?
Its just clickbait stuff creators use to get views. Its lame, but i get it.
FINALLY. after years of begging, and years of his denial, we FINALLY GOT FINN MCKENTY TO MAKE A SOAD VIDEO!!!
It's bizarre that they were discriminated against for being from an ethnic minority. Nobody told Kiss to piss off because 'people wouldn't get a jewish band'
Characters that have never had the curiosity to look at an atlas and a history book are the quickest to judge harshly. Maybe when the corporate media declares Armenians the ethnic minority du jour, people will learn a thing or two about them.
Man, SOAD opened me up to such a unique sound and all the social issues as well that they spoke on about. It’s rare when a band can do this all without feeling like it’s ham-fisted. They also KILL IT live as well.
Seeing them live is on my bucket list!
@@caesarorzell600 They are on my top five for sure! Saw them way back in like 2002. Just amazing
I know that "Rise and Fall" is a popular turn of phrase, but in this case the video should be called "The Rise & Enduring Popularity of SYSTEM OF A DOWN"
Nah, the title is dead accurate
Only to you fans, get over it.
The rise and getting out on top
I’m going to be seeing them at the end of the month I am beyond excited
I was born in 1988, so Toxicity got me in the best age ever, to help me make my taste. I blame them (and Korn, early Limp Bizkit, Early Linkin park, Placebo and basically most of 2000s alternative scene, and The Cure, just for being the Cure) for not being able to listen to many bands, cause, my standards are too high :)
Preach
I think we might be the same person.
You blame Limp Bizkit fir your high standards in music?
@@jcout25 Early LB, not the late ones :D
@@jcout25 music is subjective but the level of musicianship in that band is unreal. If that is something that matters to you, LB is up there.
This band is a perfect example of what Rick Rubin brings as far as value. Made them stars
I agree. I heard those demos for the first time a couple weeks ago and I would not have bet on that band. And I say that as a huge fan of their discography. RR is goated
Man, it's about time people quit sackriding Rick Rubin
Yeah being connected to the ethnic cartel that runs the world gives you the ability to decide who is a star and who isn't for sure.
The first time I heard SOAD, my friends older brother saw my friend and I rocking out to something on the radio. He was like "wanna hear something crazy?" And put on Sugar and full volume.
Instant love. I was maybe 11 years old.
They've been my favorite band since childhood, and it broke my heart finding out they were done touring in the late 2000s. I wasn't hearing much about them going into adulthood and I wasn't really listening to the radio often anymore (basically my Toxicity CD was getting real sick of me lol). By some stroke of luck in April 2018, while changing out CDs I just happened to catch a snippet of radio announcing that SOAD would be touring again and performing in Phoenix later that year and tickets were going on sale soon. I immediately called my husband and said that SOAD tickets were all I wanted for my birthday. We were pretty poor at the time so I didn't think he'd go for it but I cried when he let me pick out our seats a few days before my birthday, and it was all I could think about for months. Flash forward to the concert that October, I had the best night of my life with an amazing view of the stage at the Talking Stick Arena. I will never forget it, best birthday present EVER. 🤘
I get they're not everyone's favorite, but as a fan I can appreciate them knowing when their "song is sung" and not milking the cow.
Making heavy music that really resonates is hard to do. It's almost a young man's game in the sense that you have to unleash a little crazy to make it work.
Good point.
Something I've noticed about most bands is the fact that they stop being angry or perhaps they learned to just let some things be sometime in their late 20's, early 30's and the music goes downhill. I'm 36 and I'm not angry anymore and I've learned to just let things be most of the time, but why can't my favorite bands stay angry? 😢 lol
That's pretty much what it is. Most creativity drive comes from pain, frustration, and extra energy. Late 30's that stuff mellows and hopefully for most, you let go of a lot of shit or at least you're beginning to figure out how to.
I saw them in Chicago opening up for Fear Factory. The place held a thousand people, and almost no one was there to see them, but I loved System the first time I heard their debut.
Finn is in his “I got kids now” era. 🙏❤️
I know you dont care for them but this was a good breakdown of SOAD's history without making it an hour long. These are always your best work so keep it up.
System still having unreleased music is crazy. I wish eventually we get to hear it
Maybe they'll put it out with a deluxe release like Linkin Park did this year
They need to, seeing as the best album they ever made was with the material they cut from Toxicity.
@@gregoryporch8395For real, weird take but I think Steal this Album might be even better than Toxicity.
system of a down never failed they were always and will always be great
Theyre okay
Toxicity is still one of my all time favorite albums. I still play the record on a regular basis. it is one of those albums that just clicked with me at the right time and will always stick with me. It came out my sophomore year of high school and I agreed with a lot of the messages in the album and so it will always hold a fond place in my heart along side bands like Bad Religion and My Chemical Romance.
The band that introduced me to metal. Thank you SOAD.
50% of my top song on my Spotify this year is by System of a down. They never get old.
SOAD is one of the most unique metal bands in history.
I stopped by the store on my walk home from school and bought the toxicity album. When i got home i put on chop suey and turned on the tv and put it on mute until i noticed the video was a plane crashing into the twin towers. ( My school decided not to tell us about 911 so i found out right then ) It was kind a wild seeing that while hearing "angels deserve to die".. ill never forget it.
Wow! Thats what I always picture in my head when I listen to chop suey.
I remember the first time i saw Chop Suey. I had to stop and watch it and I was like wtf is this!? My nephew was 8, almost 9, (I would've been 20) at the time and he essentially got me into them. It's kind of crazy because it wasn't just surface level, we dug into the band, the lyrics, everything and discussed the things they were singing about. Still one of our favourite bands. We had tickets to see them on the tour supporting Mesmerize but my nephew had to have emergency surgery and missed it. We did get to see them together in 2011 & it was an awesome show. We saw Serj twice on his solo tours too.
I think its safe to say SOAD debut album blew alot of peoples minds when they first heard it
great video man, hope you get lots of views! i loved this band when i was a teenager.
I had a friend who's name was System. He went by that for years cuz he loved SOAD and wanted to be called it. Great piece again. I always learn something new.
Thank you for this video brother, been really looking forward to it. Great job!
Love your show! Your audio is so much better now that you use the SM7B. Thanks for doing that. The previous echo in the room made it hard to watch.
You have to appreciate them for what they accomplished with so few albums. It's impressive no matter if you like their music or not.
You don't need to make many albums if they are that great and influential. Toxicity is definitely one of the defining nu metal albums of the 00s, alongside Hybrid Theory and Infest.
There was old digital bonus footage of SOAD's drummer looking like a boxer after drumming on Toxicity in the studio. He had towels, muscle rub etc etc because he was beating himself up playing so heavy. And we wonder why the public turned their back on modern metal when you have guitar nerd producers getting carpal tunnel in the wrist from mousing in drum replacement? That tells you what's wrong with metal today. Guitar dorks ruined rock and metal.
Sample replacement takes the drummer's performance and replaces the hits with cleaner samples. What's the point you're trying to make here?
GOD DAMN RIGHT!!!! SAY IT LOUDER!!!!!
@@Shanemalouf Tippy tappy drums replaced by another person's sample to sound like Thors hammer is pathetic. It's not his stick, technique, snap, heads, room, drum heads etc. Do you like the video game Guitar Hero? When you mash the controller on time does that mean you are Brian May? Do you have his perfect bends, vibrato and attack? The public don't even know why they hate modern production but deep down they know it's fake.
Damn that is depressing.
Comparing sample replacement to guitar hero is such a false equivalency. It's meant to get rid of mic bleed, and in legit studios, the sample replacement will be of the same player on the same drum kit. Again, what is the actual point you are trying to make here? Metal production mostly sounded like hammered dog shit until the last 20 years or so.
What a nicely put together video! Thanks! A lot of people I know, including myself, wish SOAD had put together more albums
One of the best live performances I've seen.
I wasn't the biggest fan of them but witnessed as the headliner of Brisbane Soundwave festival in 2012. Absolutely blown away and made me appreciate them much more.
I wholly respect their music and their introducing a lot of people to many difficult but important topics
I love this band for both the music and Armenian history.
They didn't replace John last minute before the studio. Rubin saw System at the Roxy in 97 when John had already replaced the drummer
Wanted this one for a long time. Thanks Finn!
Thanks for content and hanging with the community dude!
the thing that i found to be immediately alluring about SOAD was actually not the heavier/metal-ier aspects of their music. before i got into SOAD, i was not really interested in that stuff (now i definitely am so i guess they were my gateway band lol). it was the consistently gorgeous vocal melodies & harmonies that gave me chills. serj & daron to me are the nu metal layne & jerry. they have so much musical chemistry together & it makes me sad that their actual relationship dynamic is the complete opposite. my favorite song examples of this chemistry: radio/video, roulette, aerials, question!, lonely day, sad statue.
Absolutely! While I did always love their heavier segments, the contrast between that and the beautiful vocal harmonies the harshness so often eventually gave way to, sometimes at the climax of a song, was maybe my favorite thing about them.
The video I thought I'd never see👏👏👏
Thanks for making a DGD video back in the day, that was dope of you
The kombucha "mushroom" is a symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeast used to make kombucha tea which lives by doing nothing except passively absorbing sugar. Seems like a pretty simple metaphor to me.
I saw them open for Slayer before the album came out. So when they were on at Ozzfest I made sure I caught there set. I really loved the song peephole. Moshing w Serj on the Lawn during Megadeth! So I special ordered the album the day it came out. I'll never forget counting down the day till the debut album June 30th 1998 came out. Sno Core with Mr Bungle smoking weed outside after with Shavo. Then they got HUGE and came the Pledge of Allegiance tour w Slipknot. Joey doing the Tommy Lee drum solo thing... Man those were great times!
Mad respect for you making this video. This band was my gateway drug for metal in general. I know they are not yout favorite, but thanks for being legit with this one.
Awesome video as usual. Finn RULES!
Love your passion finn. No one does this better than you!
I mean I’m personally not a super huge fan of SOAD like I like a few of their songs but I could never really get super into them. I do acknowledge that they definitely are something different and you can tell it’s a SOAD song based on the singers voice, because it’s so distinct.
That’s exactly what I said and was trying to convey. I remember hearing Chop Suey and seeing their music video in high school around 2009 and thinking it was cool and edgy. I was already into Nu-Metal/hardrock, but after a while I realized they just weren’t my thing like Linkin Park or Three Days Grace and all those other bands at the time. Their voices were a little out there, and the music seemed too political or I couldn’t really fathom the lyrics without having to actually look into it.
I also listened to them because a guy I liked back then and his friends listened to that stuff and I wanted to be into what he was into. 😂 This bands particular music just wasn’t my scene. I still love rock from 90’s grunge to alternative to pop punk… but SOAD was just never it for me, and is now nothing short of a reminder of me trying to be cool and edgy at 16. 🤣
I loved this band, still in fact! Hard hitting riffs and deep vocals make them one of the best! I would love for them to make a new album, but I thought it is for the best when they took their hiatus.
Soad was my favorite band growing up and definitely my main gateway to extreme music. We may never get a new album from them but I'll always be thankful for their music
Thanks for the present Papa Finn. Happy Holidays to you and your family!
Finn is talking about his favorite band lol
finally he talks about nu metal again
My dude, as I’ve said before, my favorite content you make is history videos like this
when you made the Dead Kennedy's comparison i shouted YES!
I know your not a SOAD fan and theyre my favorite band and i think you did a great job covering them! I saw them twice back in 2018 and they sounded as good as ever!
I can say from personal experience that the SOAD to Meshuggah and black metal pipeline is real
System of a Down's music is quite accessible, and really melodic when you think about it (two vocalists doing a lot of clean singing and harmonizing with each other, far from the norm for the nu metal bands they were lumped in with), yet it also attracts the kind of people who are willing to give "crazy" music a chance
My ultimate favorite band, listening to them helped me out so much throughout middle/high school and still 15 years later they still always help
I never thought you would make actually make this video
SOAD is a brilliant heavy metal band. Absolutely amazing musicians.
You're milking all the nu metal clicks and views and I'm all here for it 🙌very well done video, thanks Finn!
Saw them 10 years ago when I was 19. Jesus Christ I’m still waiting for them to come back around to my area. What a band.
An updated version of the Dead Kennedys . That’s a perfect comp Finn ! I am a little biased on that since it’s the same comp I’ve made since first hearing them .
3 things in life are certain: Death, Taxes, and Finn Mckenty talking about Nu-Metal, because people love it for some reason
I mean Serj had a point with the albums becoming redundant - I remember how we lost interest in the band in the early 2000s as it felt like there was a new SOAD album in someone’s CD player like every other weekend. Great band though.
Yeah, they had some great songs, but lots of them were very annoying to be perfectly honest.
FINALLY! covering my favorite band!
Never thought of it that way but comparing SOAD to the Dead Kennedys is pretty spot on.
Steal this Album is underrated in my opinion. It's a solid banger.
Totally agree! It’s my childhood fav :)
Id say theyre the most unique metal band ever. No other bands ever tried to sound like them
I'll take SOAD over Slipknot TBH
@@wallaceshawn-zk8iw slipknots first album was great lost interest after that
Great video Finn!
Your DK reference??
Chef's kiss.
I couldn't agree more!
Great vid, my guy!
Great video - pretty interesting. Such a quick rise and fall, honestly. In hindsight, it's wild how much they blew up, given how eclectic they are. I'm not sure thats as possible these days.
I'm not a fan of SOAD, but I have so much respect for them. I love that they give Armenians a voice in the mainstream. Definitely needed, especially in 2020, when the conflict with Azerbaijan was at its worse and barely mentioned by mainstream media.
SOAD is still to this day one of my most powerful musical influences
If I started a band, they would be along with Linkin Park, Green Day, Nirvana, BMTH, Evanescence, RHCP, Foo Fighters, blink-182, Spiritbox, No Doubt, Radiohead, Deftones, MCR, Nightwish and Type O Negative
I’d love to see a video on the Prodigy
Been looking forward to when you’d cover SOAD!
Love the video! You did a great job hitting on all the things that made this band special despite not being the biggest fan of them personally so thanks for that.
It's worth mentioning how influential it was to be as aggressively anti-war in the middle east at that time, in a form of media that was accessible to me as a child. While there was certainly anti war sentiment that you could find, a lot of it was found in political commentary like Michael Moore which just wouldn't have reached someone my age at the time. SOAD and American Idiot probably did more to affect my long term political trajectory than anything else could have ever.
Same a lot of music like Rage Against the Machine, Immortal Technique, Anti Flag, NoFX, and KRS One opened my eyes to how Eurocentric everything is and the reality of the narrative our media wants us to see and agree with.
Can you talk about AUDIOSLAVE? love to see your take on the band history, this chanel is gold!
Someone played them way back on a LAN Party just straight up all albums back to back and i was so in live. Unfortunalty i never got the chance to see them live - i would murder for a ticket. They are my absolute favourite band
I get strangely excited when I hear that guitar intro
Me when Finn has opinion:🤬😡🤬😠👿
Me when Finn reads Wikipedia: 😩🥺🥵😋🤤
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self titled is the best debut album of all time. insane and unique music, never duplicated by anyone. Toxicity was monster too, but there is something savage about self titled.
MIND
An awesome Debut! Just like Korn & AIC
Mind
dude i love the content, new subscriber here
SOAD was absolutely my gateway drug to extreme music. A family road trip in the summer of 99 with the self titled album in my disc men was my first exposure to growling vocals that I would torture myself and my family trying to imitate. I saved up my lunch money and bought the Toxicity album on its release day during lunch and immediately went to the track Forest. My first time playing guitar in public was playing Roulette at my high school talent show. I am objectively a completely different person without their music.
System of a Down had a fall?
They’re still a massive band and people still support and talk about them 24/7? But ok
I mean.... they aren't even really a band anymore but ok
Massive isn’t a word I would use to describe them. No one talks about them, certainly not 24/7. You’re acting like they’re famous like Taylor Swift 😂 They’re about as popular as Limp Biscuit or Rage Against the Machine. Those two obviously have fans as well and people listen to their music on CZcams or Spotify, but they aren’t super popular. Plus, SOAD aren’t even together.
I always looked at them as one of those bands you listen to when you’re trying to be an edgy 16 year old and eventually grow out of by the time you graduate high school.
Fall??? They are just as big as Slipknot lol. I bet many metal/death bands would love to follow SOAD's steps.
I just started listening to my old system playlist the other month. I was big into system about 3 years ago, and stopped a year and a half ago. Video could not have come at a better time.
Another fun and educational video. Thank you.
SOAD don't rise and fall. SOAD just came, created amazing rock albums and then every member take their own ways. To me that's better than a Rolling Stone eternal fading into old ridicule puppets.
I love SOAD and wished that Daron could have had less of an ego. I remember playing Toxicity as my mom drove me to high school and she would say that their music made her want to drive into other cars. 😂😂
I always suspected Daron had a lot to do with it. He said in interviews he was the first singer in System and then Serj came in. If you look at their albums, Daron barely sings in the first, mostly backup in toxcicity. Then increasing in frequency. Great writer, but his singing voice is crap comapred to Serj. He seems to have gotten a massive ego check when Scars on Broadway didn't do near as well. Age can do that to you too. Going by a recent interview I mean.
I don’t disagree with her.
SOAD is my favorite band of all, and "Chop Suey!" is my favorite song of all time. Despite not caring for their music, thank you so much for covering them nonetheless! ❤
Great Video. Thank you.
As a 90’s D.I.Y. hardcore, power violence, and black metal enthusiast, when I first saw them on MTV I was stoked that the next generation of kids could hear blast beats, crazy changes, and breakdowns
I will say that system of a down is one of my favorite bands ever. I learned how to play drums by listening to their first 2 albums. I liked steal this album but I was pretty disappointed with everything after that. (Not just musically) but when they started wearing suits and stuff they weren't the same band anymore. Something just wasn't right anymore.
Yeah last 2 were trash.. hated their guitar tuning amongst other shit.
I was introduced to punk music later in life. I grew up on SOAD and nu metal. After listening to The Dead Kennedys I realized that SOAD was likely inspired by them. It’s fun to connect everything and have new insight. Hearing you make that comparison made me feel validated in a sense.
I was in my early 20s, in my buddy's apartment and watching MTV. I heard the first few notes of Chop Suey and then the ridiculous guitar and I bought the whole album and subsequent albums. Didn't know about the 2020 release and will have to find it.