Thanks, an interesting review regarding EV6’s winter performance. Living in Finland and the winter tests are a big part when choosing a car. Did you notice any problems opening the door of the charging port due to snow/ice? How about the unusual door knobs, did they work well or not, collecting any dirt/snow in them?
Live in Montreal so this is a great video. I put myself on the waitlist for the GT Line package 2, but has a waitlist of mayne 2-3 years. Do you think this car would be worth it even later on? Also, i know they say not to finance an EV, but with the government discount, plus im going for a top trim, im really tempted to finance this.
Hi, I really liked your video. Excellent! I have a concern, though, and maybe you can help/know the answer. My concern is...what about parking outside, not charging, such as at work, etc. when the temps dip well into the negatives, such as -20*f (-28C)(which I saw last winter)? Does the car somehow protect the battery...will this harm the battery...all those types of concerns.
Hey! In that case you'd probably want to leave the car plugged into its charge cord. It acts as a block heater sort of. Keeps the battery warm,. Helps protect it extend range and make it perform better. The engineers have gone through great lengths to make sure this stuff works in the cold, even if it can't drive as far.
You hardly ever change your heating... your music controls are on the steering wheel anyway.... voice control does it all, if the switches are too much... lovely car
I haven't heard any other reviewers mention the heads up in that way, and I thought it might help folk to realise that it is adjustable... As regards you, we are all different, straight arm driving / 90 degree arm driving, etc, but it may help to consider that the further backward you sit, the higher the display will seem... cheers 🥂
I was good for ~320km of range down to about minus 10 celsius, on a full charge. Minimal effect on range with heat on vs heat off, according to the computer, about ~20km. Heats up fast too!
I didn't pay a lot of attention to it but I don't recall having an issue--- snow / dirt accumulation on the lower tailgate yes, but I believe the angle of the rear glass largely helps keep it clean. Camera turn signal mirrors help enhance visibility/ situational awareness too. In my opinion after over 1,000km of testing in the snow: it's nothing much to worry about.
Hi Pavol Many factors at play, I typically count on losing ~30 percent on the coldest days (25 celsius below) with generous use of the heat. If you're driving regularly at 130 kmh, probably a little more of a reduction. In Canada, most drivers do less than 60km per dat6 Hope that helps!
In winter it's all about winter tires and ground clearance : you need at least 5" so it doesn't 'sit' on snow when parking in deep snow - if car 'sits' over snow, you loose tire grip even with the best winter tires. Remember, Li-Ion battery is loosing 20%-40% range in winter, on top of the range lost due to slippery conditions
Then don't park it outdoors in Winter. Pay for indoor parking. Indoor parking in Canada needs slow AC chargers at every parking spot so EVs in Winter can be kept warm on a drip charge, it does not take much to keep the battery cosy.
@@honesty_-no9he We have plenty of charging stations on the streets here but obviously none is indoors so the car stay in the cold. People who have a bungalow may have heated garage but the majority live on Rent or in Condominiums which unfortunately don't have chargers in their indoor garages. As for paid indoor parking spots, obviously these are only available in downtown and office areas, not in residential areas. This is not going to change any time soon. A majority of owners have no choice but to park or charge outdoors overnight. It is a reality for about 80% of the population, a very big part of the potential market for EVs
If it weren't for the overly complicated controls and lack of physical buttons this thing would be really good. Why are car companies throwing the baby out with the bathwater when they design an EV?
I actually enjoy the new controls. I usually set my temperature once and let auto take over from there... And I pretty much only use the steering wheel controls for the radio. Also if you don't get the top trim version you get 3 physical buttons for heated seats and steering wheel instead of the touch buttons that people keep accidentally pressing.
I like the idea of EV's, but not battery... the pollution, weight (destruction of the road and tires) can't be overlooked, and slowly it's being talked about. But there is another issue that fir years I talked about and now, finally is starting to just be discussed... It's heat and cold and the "efficiency" of batteries. Hydrogen is by far the better solution, but Elon/Tesla fanbois don't like hydrogen... it's easy to make, has no pollution from the construction of batteries, gathering of the raw materials, shipping or disposal... So these people attack hydrogens loss of efficiency when making hydrogen. Finally we are seeing the very start of a discussion talking about the loss of charge in batteries when in heat and cold... You can charge your car all night, dumping energy into that battery that soaks up well under 50% of what you put in it. You can park you car at a full charge and wake up to a 20-30% loss due to cold. You can drive and as it heats up your battery overheats. It's amazing how slow people care about the realities of pretty much anything. Batteries are garbage... mass polluting garbage. You are not better for owning an EV. EV's will not "save the earth" as in reality they are destroying it in fast forward. And even after all that, many people will read what I said and still not care... but as time goes on and more of these unavoidable problems rise to the surface those same people will one day be regurgitating the same things I'm talking about right now... After they wake up and their EV lost 20-30% of a charge and they are paying for that energy. Till then 0-60 in 3 seconds is just sooOooOo cool! Because these people never really cared about pollution.
There's no pollution from the shipping of hydrogen, which is transported to fueling stations by transport tanker trucks? If you don't want an EV, don't buy one.
@@JustinPritchard There is not, because an intelligent person understands that you can make hydrogen at home... easily... You know that Tesla wall, or charger you have? Now, imagine if you will, a device that uses that same electricity to split filtered water into oxygen and hydrogen.... then compress it... and bang... Or don't and buy mass polluting EV's that depend on fossil fuels, the destruction of the earth to make batteries and waste of that battery. It must be nice pretending one cares about the environment, kinda like Elon who blasts massive rockets into the skies.
@@JustinPritchard He does have a point tho, *technically* hydrogen could be made at the fuel station. In the long run, I think that hydrogen will get the upper hand, unless they figure out a way of making batteries without all the rare materials. (And yes, I own this EV)
On every single point you are spewing FUD disinformation and you suffer from serious dis and mis education. It takes 5 times the amount of energy to drive a Hydrogen car the same distance as an EV.
Correction: price shown is $58,600 CAD 🤘
You can lower the AR display - up, down, left and right, via the Infotainment system. You obviously don't own one I'm guessing.
I did adjust it, it doesn't go low enough.
@@VROneUK He's a tester, why would he own one? Not sure why people feel the need to be righteous when commenting.
wrong price, this is the 62k model.
At either price you would think you would get a rear wiper.
Thanks Justin. Great presentation and photography. Finally someone testing an electric car in the Canadian winter.
Great review bud!.. cheers from NB
I live in Manitoba so I’m not a winter driving enthusiast by choice.
Thanks for a very informative video!
Great video Justin! Lots of awesome information!
Thanks dad this one was fun!!
Handles better than any other on the road in Wisconsin, EV6 AWD Wind with Tech Package. It drives basically like snow wasn't there
Thanks for your hard work
It's my pleasure
Car looks great.
Thanks, an interesting review regarding EV6’s winter performance. Living in Finland and the winter tests are a big part when choosing a car.
Did you notice any problems opening the door of the charging port due to snow/ice?
How about the unusual door knobs, did they work well or not, collecting any dirt/snow in them?
Live in Montreal so this is a great video. I put myself on the waitlist for the GT Line package 2, but has a waitlist of mayne 2-3 years. Do you think this car would be worth it even later on?
Also, i know they say not to finance an EV, but with the government discount, plus im going for a top trim, im really tempted to finance this.
Hi, I really liked your video. Excellent! I have a concern, though, and maybe you can help/know the answer. My concern is...what about parking outside, not charging, such as at work, etc. when the temps dip well into the negatives, such as -20*f (-28C)(which I saw last winter)? Does the car somehow protect the battery...will this harm the battery...all those types of concerns.
Hey! In that case you'd probably want to leave the car plugged into its charge cord. It acts as a block heater sort of. Keeps the battery warm,. Helps protect it extend range and make it perform better.
The engineers have gone through great lengths to make sure this stuff works in the cold, even if it can't drive as far.
@@JustinPritchard That's good. It's not practical or possible to leave it plugged in, so I take heard that it's sold in Canada, lol
It maintains itself in that instance but you will have maybe 1% loss sitting out for a 9 hour shift in the negatives (In my experience)
Can you fit snow chains. This is a requirement in Australia even if your car is fitted with snow or winter tyres
Having to hit a button to switch between radio & heating is something only a designer would love.
Have you driven an Ioniq 5, Justin?
Not yet, but looking forward to it!
You hardly ever change your heating... your music controls are on the steering wheel anyway.... voice control does it all, if the switches are too much... lovely car
How many amps is your Chargepoint set to?
Did you use the all-season tires that comes with EV6 for winter testing, this video ? Were they good 👍 enough or
This one's on a set of Michelin dedicated winters-- xice I believe. They're fantastic!
You CAN adjust the position and height of the heads up display in the settings, so it can be different for varying sizes of driver
But at 5'10, the lowest position possible is still in my line of sight.
I haven't heard any other reviewers mention the heads up in that way, and I thought it might help folk to realise that it is adjustable... As regards you, we are all different, straight arm driving / 90 degree arm driving, etc, but it may help to consider that the further backward you sit, the higher the display will seem... cheers 🥂
How much battery capacity is lost due to your extreme cold weather? Do you find that the heat pumps help preserve range?
I was good for ~320km of range down to about minus 10 celsius, on a full charge. Minimal effect on range with heat on vs heat off, according to the computer, about ~20km.
Heats up fast too!
Any body drive kia carnival in heavy show with winter tires . Please share your experience..
I wanted one however the recent news of kia charging 58k to replace batteries thrue me off big time.
How is the braking in the snow?
Any feedback on how the back window visibility holds up in rain and snow.
I didn't pay a lot of attention to it but I don't recall having an issue--- snow / dirt accumulation on the lower tailgate yes, but I believe the angle of the rear glass largely helps keep it clean.
Camera turn signal mirrors help enhance visibility/ situational awareness too.
In my opinion after over 1,000km of testing in the snow: it's nothing much to worry about.
Heat pump?
What is the batter degradation like when temps hit -30C?
Did not experience those temperatures but from plenty of past experience I would expect to lose 35 or 40% from rated range.
That household fuse panel needs upgrading to the 21st Century. I am sure it was fine back when Nikola Tesla first installed it.
The seat you're sitting in has ports for your phone.
What is the range in the winter? I am wondering how far I can get on european motorway where I can drive 130km/h.
Hi Pavol
Many factors at play, I typically count on losing ~30 percent on the coldest days (25 celsius below) with generous use of the heat. If you're driving regularly at 130 kmh, probably a little more of a reduction.
In Canada, most drivers do less than 60km per dat6
Hope that helps!
@@JustinPritchard Thank you
Let's wait for about 1 year and see if it still holds up.
February will be 1 year for my ioniq 5 which badicly is the same car as a ev 6 and still going strong at 20,000 miles
In winter it's all about winter tires and ground clearance : you need at least 5" so it doesn't 'sit' on snow when parking in deep snow - if car 'sits' over snow, you loose tire grip even with the best winter tires. Remember, Li-Ion battery is loosing 20%-40% range in winter, on top of the range lost due to slippery conditions
Lol… you aren’t losing 40% range on a cold day lmao. More like 20-25%.
Then don't park it outdoors in Winter. Pay for indoor parking. Indoor parking in Canada needs slow AC chargers at every parking spot so EVs in Winter can be kept warm on a drip charge, it does not take much to keep the battery cosy.
@@honesty_-no9he We have plenty of charging stations on the streets here but obviously none is indoors so the car stay in the cold. People who have a bungalow may have heated garage but the majority live on Rent or in Condominiums which unfortunately don't have chargers in their indoor garages. As for paid indoor parking spots, obviously these are only available in downtown and office areas, not in residential areas. This is not going to change any time soon. A majority of owners have no choice but to park or charge outdoors overnight. It is a reality for about 80% of the population, a very big part of the potential market for EVs
lmfao, talkin' out your ass on a 40% loss. And I park outside, perhaps you should notate that you don't actually have any facts to back yourself up.
@@H0rseMac you stupid, you lose even more than 50% if it's really cold. It's not 40F we are talking about, but a real deal at 0F.
Anybody drive a RWD version in winter yet? The AWD is a bit pricey.
I did. Works perfectly. Slightly eager to break out, but with the snow setting and proper driving there's no problem.
This is not the GT version correct
It's the Canadian "GT Line", I don't believe we have the actual GT model yet.
The real winter test is RWD
Works brilliantly, although it is a bit happy to break out when you accelerate in corners.
If it weren't for the overly complicated controls and lack of physical buttons this thing would be really good. Why are car companies throwing the baby out with the bathwater when they design an EV?
I actually enjoy the new controls. I usually set my temperature once and let auto take over from there... And I pretty much only use the steering wheel controls for the radio. Also if you don't get the top trim version you get 3 physical buttons for heated seats and steering wheel instead of the touch buttons that people keep accidentally pressing.
You call that snow
Not much there
It took forever to get to the snow review 🙄
I like the idea of EV's, but not battery... the pollution, weight (destruction of the road and tires) can't be overlooked, and slowly it's being talked about. But there is another issue that fir years I talked about and now, finally is starting to just be discussed... It's heat and cold and the "efficiency" of batteries. Hydrogen is by far the better solution, but Elon/Tesla fanbois don't like hydrogen... it's easy to make, has no pollution from the construction of batteries, gathering of the raw materials, shipping or disposal... So these people attack hydrogens loss of efficiency when making hydrogen.
Finally we are seeing the very start of a discussion talking about the loss of charge in batteries when in heat and cold... You can charge your car all night, dumping energy into that battery that soaks up well under 50% of what you put in it. You can park you car at a full charge and wake up to a 20-30% loss due to cold. You can drive and as it heats up your battery overheats. It's amazing how slow people care about the realities of pretty much anything.
Batteries are garbage... mass polluting garbage. You are not better for owning an EV. EV's will not "save the earth" as in reality they are destroying it in fast forward.
And even after all that, many people will read what I said and still not care... but as time goes on and more of these unavoidable problems rise to the surface those same people will one day be regurgitating the same things I'm talking about right now... After they wake up and their EV lost 20-30% of a charge and they are paying for that energy. Till then 0-60 in 3 seconds is just sooOooOo cool! Because these people never really cared about pollution.
There's no pollution from the shipping of hydrogen, which is transported to fueling stations by transport tanker trucks?
If you don't want an EV, don't buy one.
@@JustinPritchard There is not, because an intelligent person understands that you can make hydrogen at home... easily...
You know that Tesla wall, or charger you have? Now, imagine if you will, a device that uses that same electricity to split filtered water into oxygen and hydrogen.... then compress it... and bang...
Or don't and buy mass polluting EV's that depend on fossil fuels, the destruction of the earth to make batteries and waste of that battery.
It must be nice pretending one cares about the environment, kinda like Elon who blasts massive rockets into the skies.
@@JustinPritchard He does have a point tho, *technically* hydrogen could be made at the fuel station. In the long run, I think that hydrogen will get the upper hand, unless they figure out a way of making batteries without all the rare materials. (And yes, I own this EV)
@@RHTi9 You are wrong.
On every single point you are spewing FUD disinformation and you suffer from serious dis and mis education.
It takes 5 times the amount of energy to drive a Hydrogen car the same distance as an EV.