Julia Styles, Kirsten Dunst, Ginnerfer Goodwyn, Maggie Gylenhall, Laura Allen, Lily Rabe, Kristen Ritter, and Julia Roberts, as teacher, that's one power house cast of a class...
@@lamb9770 I don't give a fuck what movie we are talking about. :p It's along the same lines and I'm talking about great actors I like in a similar movie. :p So fuck yoU!
Hhhmmmmm, disrespecting the teacher, showing up late, missing classes and a midterm, threatening a teacher........just about enough to warrant a suspension. Tut tut Betty, would've thought you'd have known that......
@@RedaDoodles Because that sort of position should make you respect university teachers, not act like you're above them. If her mum overlooks her daughters behaviour than it's confirmed she's a terrible mother in more ways than one and shows that she's unfit for her position. Always thought she'd be better off as a wedding planner the way she oversaw the table-decorations.
_He painted what he felt, not what he saw. People didn't understand, to them it seemed childlike and crude. It took years for them to recognize his actual technique. To see the way his brush strokes seemed to make the night sky move. Yet, he never sold a painting in his lifetime. This is his self-portrait. There's no camouflage, no romance. Honesty. Now, sixty years later, where is he?_
+Arturo Caicedo Despite being a picture, I dare say it wouldn't have been that easy, would it? I mean, there were some earlier expressions of feminism in the late 30's and 40's, but it was a whole process that took several years to be born in the chauvinistic American society. However the regard, I love the way Julia Roberts portrays Ms. Watson: she is unique.
Luis Arturo Caicedo C yes I also enjoy how free-progressive thought is challenged by old traditions. Plenty of things that are new are crap like Van Gogh paint by numbers in a box. That's what liberal agendas usually are crap in a box. Paint by numbers crap. A nuclear family in a community where parents raise their children and later in life the children take care of their parents and the extended family as a whole is more important than the individual is often still a better way of life then moving through life alone pretending you are reinventing the way the world lives when really you are just making it a terrible place to be full of lonely isolated individuals.
0:46 Suddenly I'm thinking back to what Spanish flamenco dancer Antonio Gades (grew up in Franco's Spain, dropped out of school when he was 12 to get several part-time jobs to support his family, ended up touring the world as a dancer) apparently once said: "Popular is of the people. Populist is prostitution". If you're wondering, yes, he was a communist but don't forget he grew up in a fascist country and in the first years of his life had next to nothing, along with many other people.
0:29 Like the Pharaoh Nefertiti was married to, he insisted that statues of him depict his long face and his pot belly. We focused on it for a class or two once in Ancient History in high school.
Jason Big yes but many people will never get married and if they do it will end in divorce. YUCK! Shitty lonely cutoff individualistic societies. No honor. Nothing to be proud of. When you die nobody will morn you. What kind of life is that. "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 we mourn my grand-aunt who never got married, she got Alzheimers, and never needed an extra nurse nor to be in a retirement house, her family always looked after her, and is still missed by so many people, more than 20 years after her passing. On the other hand, when grandma died we said "game over grandpa, grandma just crashed into your party in heaven". We loved her very much, but it was not easy to be around her, especially for her non-favorite children, who happened to be the ones who did look after her.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 well, one of them made some of their childrens' lives actually miserable for many years, even regretted becoming a mother at some point. Even when she loved us and we loved her back, when we visited her, my dad just left sad and frustrated. The other became a second mom and third grandma for two generations of her siblings' offspring, didn't need to marry to have a bunch of noisy kids begging her for candy and her arms. Being married/single has nothing to do on how you will end up in your later years.
Although I understand what Miss Watson is trying to say, I see this as yet another example of her refusing to look beyond the image. She turns her nose up at sticking van Gogh in a box and asking people to copy him, but in his early years, Van Gogh did the same thing! Maybe he wasn't asked, but he copied other people's drawings, then their paintings, and then finally started doing his own. Needless to say, he stunk. But we know him as an amazing artist because he recognized that he stunk and pushed himself to get better. What she doesn't stop to consider is that beyond that little box of brushes and paint is someone with an innate desire to create, to get that amazing feeling from being able to create with your hands, but have proven again and again that you weren't meant to do that. But then, you come across this little box, and just for a while, you can forget that you weren't meant to be an artist, and just be happy that in some way, you can capture that feeling.
The way you describe it, makes that box sound even worse to me. Not all of us have the potential to be one of the greatest artists of all time, but we all have the potential to use our own creativity to make something beautiful, rather than having to resort to copying someone's work. Even if it's in another art form than originally envisioned. Copying to learn, sure. Copying because at some point along the way, you lost your belief in your own ability to create beauty, that's just sad.
You know, my biggest problem with this movie is Betty spends like 80 percent of the movie being a real witch to Katharine and then all of a sudden in the last 15 minutes she's singing her praises. It's abrupt and would of worked better had Betty started warming up to her halfway thru the film.
she had a turning point though, cause of her cheating husband and her life fell apart and she went to go live with Maggie Gyllenhaal's character after graduation. The whole class warmed up to the teacher gradually but Betty resisted until her chosen life failed her and she broke and found another option.
You must show up on class and have perfect attendance no excuses about everything or otherwise they will fail you and drop you out and if you disrespect a professor you will be expelled or suspended this character named Betty Warren is very irresponsible in this movie when I watch this movie and saw Betty Warren this character I don't even like her not one bit her personality is just so ignorant anyway all I'm trying to say is don't disrespect or threaten a Professor otherwise they will expelled you these are the real rules in college college is the real world
Such a strange little film. You can see the tension in the cast. The only scenes that really work , are with Marcia Gay Harden, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Ginnifer Goodwin... The three of them make this film worth a look ---
Julia Styles, Kirsten Dunst, Ginnerfer Goodwyn, Maggie Gylenhall, Laura Allen, Lily Rabe, Kristen Ritter, and Julia Roberts, as teacher, that's one power house cast of a class...
angel91485 yeah well ... Robin Williams got to teach Wilson from House and Ethan Hawke probably a few more notables in there. Dead Poets Society.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 no one was talking about that movie
@@lamb9770 I don't give a fuck what movie we are talking about. :p It's along the same lines and I'm talking about great actors I like in a similar movie. :p So fuck yoU!
That's, what i thought haha..
It seems like a great movie about learning to think for yourself, saved for tomorrow
Hhhmmmmm, disrespecting the teacher, showing up late, missing classes and a midterm, threatening a teacher........just about enough to warrant a suspension. Tut tut Betty, would've thought you'd have known that......
Because at the time, getting married was the most important time of a woman.
Betty’s parents owned a looted Van Gogh - he didn’t sell it to them, and they sure as hell didn’t pay for it.
Yet.
Why would she care? She knew her mother had total power over Katherine...
@@RedaDoodles Because that sort of position should make you respect university teachers, not act like you're above them. If her mum overlooks her daughters behaviour than it's confirmed she's a terrible mother in more ways than one and shows that she's unfit for her position. Always thought she'd be better off as a wedding planner the way she oversaw the table-decorations.
@@agenttheater5 I'm not defending her... Just stating a fact.
I love how her voice starts becoming fainter as the argument continues to get more stirred up, as if she knows she's put her foot in it.
_He painted what he felt, not what he saw. People didn't understand, to them it seemed childlike and crude. It took years for them to recognize his actual technique. To see the way his brush strokes seemed to make the night sky move. Yet, he never sold a painting in his lifetime. This is his self-portrait. There's no camouflage, no romance. Honesty. Now, sixty years later, where is he?_
It's also not true he never sold a painting during his lifetime. He did sell two. Although, he wasn't a successful painter.
0:49 most nonchalant way to flex your family’s multimillion dollar fortune
I'd be so embarrassed I said it out loud that I would like "But it's small......tiny......absolutely minuscule.....nobody even notices it at all!
wow, great scene , I love it, I love the way old traditions are challenged by free-progressive thought
+Arturo Caicedo Despite being a picture, I dare say it wouldn't have been that easy, would it? I mean, there were some earlier expressions of feminism in the late 30's and 40's, but it was a whole process that took several years to be born in the chauvinistic American society. However the regard, I love the way Julia Roberts portrays Ms. Watson: she is unique.
“Free progressive thought” as in pure cultural trash.
Luis Arturo Caicedo C yes I also enjoy how free-progressive thought is challenged by old traditions. Plenty of things that are new are crap like Van Gogh paint by numbers in a box. That's what liberal agendas usually are crap in a box. Paint by numbers crap. A nuclear family in a community where parents raise their children and later in life the children take care of their parents and the extended family as a whole is more important than the individual is often still a better way of life then moving through life alone pretending you are reinventing the way the world lives when really you are just making it a terrible place to be full of lonely isolated individuals.
@@theeuropeanapotheosis8649 as it's shown at the end of the movie
@@theeuropeanapotheosis8649 spoken like a Fascist, Nazi, Religious Reich nutbag
I always remember this scene when we lash out on others for the deeply hurt we feel until we break and let the "help me" out.
0:46 Suddenly I'm thinking back to what Spanish flamenco dancer Antonio Gades (grew up in Franco's Spain, dropped out of school when he was 12 to get several part-time jobs to support his family, ended up touring the world as a dancer) apparently once said: "Popular is of the people. Populist is prostitution". If you're wondering, yes, he was a communist but don't forget he grew up in a fascist country and in the first years of his life had next to nothing, along with many other people.
2:54
Katherine: That's my job. (walks away in anger)
I loved doing paint by numbers art as a kid, though not Van Gogh just animals.
..so cute 🥰
0:29 Like the Pharaoh Nefertiti was married to, he insisted that statues of him depict his long face and his pot belly. We focused on it for a class or two once in Ancient History in high school.
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His unusual appearance was due to him suffering from Marfan's Syndrome, as did Abraham Lincoln...
They also all did Van Gogh Paint by Numbers and gave them to Miss Watson.
This aged well, unfortunately, especially with the age of AI where anyone can be "Van Gogh"
good bit on Van gogh
Love the pencil bit
2:24 in year 2020 you can actually graduate without stepping your foot on campus.
Jason Big yes but many people will never get married and if they do it will end in divorce. YUCK! Shitty lonely cutoff individualistic societies. No honor. Nothing to be proud of. When you die nobody will morn you. What kind of life is that. "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."
Now "woke-ism" and "emotional distress" are the new "marriage" excuse
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 we mourn my grand-aunt who never got married, she got Alzheimers, and never needed an extra nurse nor to be in a retirement house, her family always looked after her, and is still missed by so many people, more than 20 years after her passing.
On the other hand, when grandma died we said "game over grandpa, grandma just crashed into your party in heaven". We loved her very much, but it was not easy to be around her, especially for her non-favorite children, who happened to be the ones who did look after her.
@@usagi18 Misplaced emotions when one gave others life and the other made life enjoyable to live.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 well, one of them made some of their childrens' lives actually miserable for many years, even regretted becoming a mother at some point. Even when she loved us and we loved her back, when we visited her, my dad just left sad and frustrated.
The other became a second mom and third grandma for two generations of her siblings' offspring, didn't need to marry to have a bunch of noisy kids begging her for candy and her arms.
Being married/single has nothing to do on how you will end up in your later years.
Although I understand what Miss Watson is trying to say, I see this as yet another example of her refusing to look beyond the image.
She turns her nose up at sticking van Gogh in a box and asking people to copy him, but in his early years, Van Gogh did the same thing!
Maybe he wasn't asked, but he copied other people's drawings, then their paintings, and then finally started doing his own. Needless to say, he stunk. But we know him as an amazing artist because he recognized that he stunk and pushed himself to get better.
What she doesn't stop to consider is that beyond that little box of brushes and paint is someone with an innate desire to create, to get that amazing feeling from being able to create with your hands, but have proven again and again that you weren't meant to do that. But then, you come across this little box, and just for a while, you can forget that you weren't meant to be an artist, and just be happy that in some way, you can capture that feeling.
videohistory722 She's not saying don't like popular things ever, she's pointing out the irony
The way you describe it, makes that box sound even worse to me. Not all of us have the potential to be one of the greatest artists of all time, but we all have the potential to use our own creativity to make something beautiful, rather than having to resort to copying someone's work. Even if it's in another art form than originally envisioned.
Copying to learn, sure. Copying because at some point along the way, you lost your belief in your own ability to create beauty, that's just sad.
@@yltraviolemy thoughts exactly, thank you for expressing them so well
Das ist was wir sehen wenn wir den bayerischen Schlachthof im Fernsehen meinen.
1:41 that reminded me of her acting on stepmom
0:01
Joan: Sunflowers, Vincent van Gogh. 1888.
thats my job.. epic anwser
Actually he painted what he saw. He wrote constantly about the importance of observation.
Betty is back
The worst part was when Betty interrupted the lecture. Pretty damn good one also.
فلم يستحق المشاهده
Such arrogant students should be given a tight slap on the face
You know, my biggest problem with this movie is Betty spends like 80 percent of the movie being a real witch to Katharine and then all of a sudden in the last 15 minutes she's singing her praises. It's abrupt and would of worked better had Betty started warming up to her halfway thru the film.
she had a turning point though, cause of her cheating husband and her life fell apart and she went to go live with Maggie Gyllenhaal's character after graduation. The whole class warmed up to the teacher gradually but Betty resisted until her chosen life failed her and she broke and found another option.
#Rembrant , dam options ???
“60 years later” is crazy
Because?
Aha. Also noticed
@@bethanyhait6880because Van Gogh is more contemporary to the time this movie takes place in and it’s interesting to me
Van Go
What she actually says is wrong. Van Gogh did sell one painting in his lifetime.
MasterPoppers basically none
Anomaly Sunday Yeah. Obviously, it isn't much. He was very poor. The statement in the movie is still wrong, though.
MasterPoppers well there you see her point. Not all things have to be all-detailed right you know.
Yeah, let's just continue to get facts wrong. Let's see how far that gets us in life.
I love this movie, but an art professor should not say things inherently false about art and artists.
You must show up on class and have perfect attendance no excuses about everything or otherwise they will fail you and drop you out and if you disrespect a professor you will be expelled or suspended this character named Betty Warren is very irresponsible in this movie when I watch this movie and saw Betty Warren this character I don't even like her not one bit her personality is just so ignorant anyway all I'm trying to say is don't disrespect or threaten a Professor otherwise they will expelled you these are the real rules in college college is the real world
This was a different era and remember what kind of a school it was.
She's wrong in something. He did sell a painting. Only one, but he did.
Which one?
@@endymionisrafieldeios7362 The Red Vineyard. It sold on 1890.
@endymionisrafieldeios7362 His brother bought his Bedroom painting
@@Emma-td8bb maybe it doesn't count when it's your family or art dealer. The brother was also both.
Ironic isn't it??????????????
Rich kid trying to bend traditions,, nowonder hubby left her,, itis tradition to respect teacher
How come they aren't in the lecture hall?
If I recall correctly, the teacher has the students paint their own Van Gogh; hence, they’re meeting in the art studio.
No conforming in my reality.
Such a strange little film. You can see the tension in the cast.
The only scenes that really work , are with Marcia Gay Harden, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Ginnifer Goodwin... The three of them make this film worth a look ---
Artists do not rule the world
No, they just shape it.
@@stevenruiz6507 and define it.
And paint it.
2:31
Betty - Don't disregard our traditions just because you're subversive.
2:37
Katherine: (walks to Betty) Don't disrespect this class just because you're married.
2:40
Betty: Don't disrespect me just because you're not.
@@marissaflores418 what's your point lol
@@cinnamongirl5266 quotes from the film.
@@lacurronec3815 nah ik that I've seen it. I'm asking HER whats the point point of her repeating Betty's lines