You're Still EQing Your Amp WRONG! Unlock Your Amp Pt.2
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2023
- Thanks for watching this video on EQ settings and how to think a little bit "outside the box" as a lot of people still believe that an amp should sound good with all the EQ controls at noon! This video focuses on the PRS Archon 50 amplifier.
Here's the original video: • You're EQ-ing Your Amp...
Gear used in this video:
- ESP LTD Phoenix Arctic Metal
- PRS Archon 50 Tube Amp
- RedSeven Amplification Amp Central
- OwnHammer 412 RECT Essentials Impulse Responses
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How do you dial in your amps? What amp comes to mind when you think of more "extreme" EQ positions? Also, sorry for the mic quality, I had some issues with my mic and had to use the mic on the camera. Not ideal.. Cheers!
My ears get fatigued pretty fast. It's only when I came back after a while I can hear if it sounds good or terrible when working on my tones. Also making them sound good in the mix is whole another beast.
Great video man! Try the Mesa 5 Band EQ in the loop (maybe the one in your Helix). You won’t be disappointed! 😮
I personaly start with Mids and Presence, adjust them to my liking and then go from there. It is just easier for me this way.
I scoop them. Live i play it save with decent amount of mids. Also for monitoring myself a bit,always like a bit soundbleed from the amp. Volume as loud as i can get away with. I like them loud.
Of course I dial amps as they need - there are a lot of amps that really benefit from extreme settings but my designers perspective is usually to create everything in a way that it sounds great with all knobs at noon and that adjustments are mainly for fine-tuning or for extreme preferences. Usually when I go about a tone stack circuit for example I add so much extra circuitry around it that puts the sweetspot at or close to noon that the supporting parts are usually more than the actual main circuit.
This approach comes from me usually enjoying gear most that sounds great with "neutral" settings as a user.
I really like the Tim Pierce method (if you don't know an amp well) of playing a riff via looper, and then one at a time, turn each of the knobs on your amp until you find the cusp of where the sound changes the most, and leave it right at that point. Once you've done one pass, go back through each of them and make very slight adjustments until the sound goes from good to great. Hopefully I have that attribution right, I first heard it several years ago and can't remember. (=
And oh yeah, your settings were 9,000x better than the "all at noon" settings. Like a weighted wool blanket being removed from over the speaker.
Really great vid. Thanks man! I am currently working on a vid where I show off one of my rare amps and it sounds best with the bass at 0 the mid cranked to 10 and the treble just past noon. So you couldn’t be more right. Tweak until it’s right!
What is Tim’s metod? Can you please tell me more?
@@stevestevens1457 check his channel
@@JorgeTheilacker which particular video, bro?
Love this series! the next should be the Peavey 6505.
+1, My settings is - Low and Resonance = 0, Mid = 8 High = 8, Presence = 8, but I would like to know more precisely
6505 for sure!
That’s always been a tough one for Me
You're absolutely right. I did it wrong for year, but luckily I had a conversation with a guy. He showed me a few tips like this. I start at noon and add or take away, depending on the sound I'm going for. Awesome video man. This will help a lot of people. I wish I had seen something like this years ago. Lol
Holy crap, that A/BB comparison was like lifting a wool blanket off the speakers!
Just goes to show you need to listen to your ear and not focus too much on knob position.
Sometimes if I'm having trouble with this I'll close my eyes and adjust the knob until it sounds right and then open my eyes to be surprised by how far right or left the sweet spot is.
Yeah the difference is quite huge eh? Sometimes at lower levels a darker sound will be nice in the room but for a recording or gig you need that clarity!
I swear it's like you're reading my mind with content, albeit I'm clearly biased. The Archon 50 plays so many styles well, but the sweet spot is exactly where you have it. The only thing I do different depends on how buttoned down or opened up I want to sound, which I find is dictated pretty much entirely by that highly impactful presence knob. Sometimes luscious harmonic slop is just too fun to resist. Keep it up!
Noon position sound so dark and dim.. your settings are tighter and so much brighter with so much clarity in tone.. nicely done man
Cheers!
Very well done and excellent arguments made regarding what people expect from amps with the default EQ at noon. Your demonstration here really brought out something from this demo that's not seen frequently enough with the PRS Archon amplifiers. The demonstration with your EQ settings is tight, punchy and with just the appropriate amount of midrange for the mix.
Also, your original video on how to dial the Fireball 100 (alongside the Mark V) without immediately using its mid-boost and/or cranking the presence even further, is an immensely underrated work and contribution to a proper understanding of what can be done with that particular amp. Unfortunately, and understandably, many rarely consider dialling back the presence and then properly pushing the highly responsive middle and treble dials, which unveils a very different and worthwhile midrange high gain tone from the amp; makes for a versatile high gain beast.
Thank you so much for that comment. I really appreciate it!
2nd that. People complaining the amp is to midscooped or doesn't cut nicely. Fireball often discredited as such. Have a fireball model 1 and engl inferno myself. Just dail it till you hear it. Could be with more pressence or less. Just try. I noticed when you put a tube amp aggainst lets say a boss katana or such with mids a bit pushed. You will hear the katana more. But that because it has a very high mid sound. Evh's also on channel 2. Mid explosion those amps on channel 2. Mid around half is more then enough on those white versions.
"some guitarists still think that..." - Yup I was one of those guys! After watching your other video the first thing I did was to do the unthinkable - go with the treble past TWO OCLOCK (!!!). I always thought a gremlin would come out of the amp if I did such a thing! Totally unlocked my amp as you very well said! As for the haters that commented badly, they can suck on my :-D.... Thanks for the video and for the super content!
Amen.
Marshall even suggest their amps be run at 6-6-6 setting to begin with. The treble seems a bit too much when noodling about on your own, but when the drums and cymbals kick in, it's just perfect.
Fantastic video! You have inspired me to start turning knobs more! Thank you:)
Love the Ez-core riffs!!! Nice video!!
awesome Video! this helps with all kinds of Amps, even when you use something like a Quad Cortex, this helps a LOT. Sometimes a more extreme Setting is the best Sound!
I have the previous iteration of the Archon 50, and I used to think the lead channel sounded too muffled, being in the mindset that amps should sound right with everything more or less at noon. As silly as it may sound, I used to work around it with a 10-band EQ on the line out of my load-box. But your previous video on this subject made me lose my hang-up of not wanting to use extreme settings on the EQ knobs of the amp, and now I'm happy with the lead channel - just as this video showcases. I have to say I think the clean channel on the Archon 50 is my favorite of all the amps in my collection, as well as the AxeFX models, at least for the type of music I like to play clean (a lot of Jazz and ambient stuff).
Always love your positivity Jon! (impedance curves!!!) ;)
I’ll be damned. I used your settings on my own Archon ii, and I am absolutely loving it. I didn’t have the settings on noon before, but this new setting is amazing.
Since I know you're probably stalking comments in the first minutes after upload...
Hi, Jon! Been a big fan of your content for a while, keep up the awesome work! 🤟🏼
Haha thanks!
Wow! Actually both of those sounds are useable, they just have a different job and different styles where they would work. So happy i have one of these on the way!
Use your ears, not your eyes, when adjusting the amp. Rule of thumb is to turn the knob until you hear a dramatic change. Each knob has a sweet spot where that happens. Also make these adjustments with the amp loud. You may not need such extreme tone settings at volume.
I’m one of these guys that likes reminders like this. Great video mate as always 🤘
Sounds awesome! I have the OwnHammer Mesa packs myself and the one's I've tried sound great but I don't think I've tried the chunk ones. I'll have to give those a try.
I had the same experience recently the first time I tried an Archon through a Marshall 4x12. I started with everything at noon and immediately had to bring in some top end. The bright switch was a great help too. Loved the sound foth amp once I got it dialed in. That being said my JJjr sounds great with everything at noon and only needs subtle tweeks. My Splawn Quickrod is a very upper mid focused amp that is very dependent on the cabinet and speakers. Everything at noon through Vintage 30's will rip your head off with beaming highs lol. As Jon said...some amps need that tweaking..the knobs are there to shape the tone to your liking. Sometimes extreme settings are necessary! 🤘🤘🤘
love your content dude your channel is killer... you can't do anything these days without finger muscles sounding off no matter what your say or do. Keep up the fantastic content and ignore the trolls
Something to consider about EQing are the variances between tunings. Not all amps have the same mid focus but in general, I crank the mids and presence on most when using a 7 string and basically anything drop C or lower on a six. For anything in standard tuning, Drop C#, Drop D I don't crank them nearly as high and prefer a more scooped tone.
I agree!! The Archon sounds great and seems quite flexible
Your setting sounds like having a boost in front! Great!!
Yeah man, wasn’t too happy with the base tone of my 5150 III and the easy fix was putting a 10 band EQ in the loop for some extra adjustments. Now it sounds killer! Good video.
Model EQ ? Settings ?
@@John_Doe.. MXR 10 band and all I really did was bump some of the high frequencies that I wasn't quite getting with the amps EQ. I also run it through an evh 212 cab on a hardwood floor so that also has to do with why I wanted the extra EQ
@@crossbreaker_ Thanks man
I always typically start with the amp at noon and tweak the knobs to suit. I don’t think I ever left the knobs at noon on an amp thow. Thanks John great series, would like to see what you do with the 5150 3
The EVHs are examples of amps that tend to work pretty well with the controls at noon. Not the blue channel of my EL34 though...
Just got my Archon this week...best amp for high gain I own by far.. I love my EVH EL34 too but the Archon has that kind of boutique/mesa Tremonti-ish type of high gain tone.. just a wall of sound!! It's killer!!
Amazing amps!
The riff is sick again man ! Totaly my kind of vibes ! Are you going to turn some of your riffs into songs ?
Yes, for my GhostHour project
I usually always run my Fender Hotrod Deville on the clean channel bright switch off and flat which, for that amp, is all tone controls at noon (no boost, no cut) then tweak the EQ and overdrives on my pedal board to get the tones I need.
I have the same settings on my Mt15, and it sound awesome. 🤘Thanks
I love this series, cause it was kind of tiring reading in forums that about every second amp but the infamous "Marshall" gets buried in the mix. But I have to admit those extrem EQ adjustment that goes with the Mark series is so not for everyone.
It's amazing how much this amp comes alive at the same settings as a good 5150.. the Devil's settings.. 6,6,6 and P and R at 6,6 too..
Idk about tube amps, but with ampsims I found it is extremely hard to find right tone which will work in the mix VS reference mixes. So, taking extreme settings (without getting harsh or boomy) for getting maximum juice is my go to recipe of a modern metal tone haha
Great video. Please do a review on 6505+, it's really difficult to set up a good sound there.
Use EVH settings with that amp
Dude, you're my go-to reference where it comes to guitar tone. That said, in your Ironball SE demos you have a fairly conservative treble and presence settings -and it sounds fantastic. If I try to approach your tone with my Ironball SE, both my treble and presence have to be like at 3 o'clock, regardless if I use Ownhammer IRs or my speakers. Anywhere lower and it darkens up too much.
Try mic placement to change some of the EQ sounds on your recordings, it may make a ton of difference.
@@christhomas5004 Yes I know that, thanks. But I meant when using IRs (particularly the Ownhammer ones for Mesa and Orange cabs, but others too) and/or when listening to the speaker in the room (not a recording). I was wondering if my ENGL is darker than others. Anyway it sounds perfect with the treble and presence at 3 o'clock-ish, every other control at noon.
Whatever sounds good! My settings aren't the ultimate settings for all. Don't worry about it and tweak until you smile :)
The middle knob on an Archon is very similar to an Uberschall middle knob. If you ask me it's the most confusing knob on any amp ever as it affects both the mids and shelfs the highs above. So boosting/cutting the mids also affects treble and presence. I'd say it's nearly unusable. 😄 Touching it requires you to compensate with the treble knob constantly.
Totally agree!
Great video as usual. The knobs really are there to be turned and turned until one gets the sound they want, or as close as one can get. Been itching to buy a Gibson 60s like the one you did a demo not too long ago...but since you swapped the pickups and I do like the sound you have in your videos...I am wondering if I should go for it and buy one or look for something else... What would be your advice? To be honest all I could ever affordup until now were Epiphones, prophecy and such, this would be my first big purchase guitar wise. I kindly thank you any advice you can give me.
If you don't like the pickups just swap them out! It's a great guitar
Last time the "right" way was to boost only the mids and treble to 7.5/10, now we scoop the mids. Moral of the story, use your ears with each amp cause there is no one size fits all way to EQ an amp.
Yes you're exactly right! All I can do is give examples
@@SonicDriveStudio All knobs at zero for maxmium ToAn
Did you watch either video at all? This is the exact point that Jon was making.
@@neighbourhoodmusician I get a lot of that tbh. These types of videos tend to provoke such reactions. They don't watch the video and make assumptions based on the thumbnail alone
Scooping the mids is like sweeping the leg
It works bout 90% of the time
Hey thats a cool series idea! What do you think about starting with the old legends like your Dual Rectifier?
Hmm could be cool
This was a excellent informative video. Thank you. Please show evh stealth 50 watt. I would like the EQ explanation for that. I can’t seem to get the sound as good as I think . I use Les Paul w fishmans. Thanks
I don't have a stealth but my EL34 sounds pretty good with everything at noon. Maybe lower the presence a touch. But they are very tight amps. Try the passive voicing on the Fishman for more low end.
@@SonicDriveStudio thank you. I will do this see how it goes but you are correct it does sound very tight. Maybe I’m looking for a little flub. Like a mesa recto Lol
Awesome video as usual! When in doubt, always use your ears. The real question though... How the hell did you get such a nice sounding feedback at the end using an IR?!
Whenever I have feedback in my songs I use the Freqout pedal by Digitech
@@SonicDriveStudio I might have guessed! Super cool pedal. I'll refrain from cranking my monitors up to 11 then :)
It really depends on amp design too. There’s no way you can get a good sound out of a Mesa Mark V by cranking bass on its tone stack, but for a Marshall style amp (which usually doesn’t have a depth control), turning the bass up can sound really good
Yes exactly! In the previous video I even demonstrated this with my Mark V
Both mine markIIc+ and mark iii no stripe, bass never goes past 1, mid between 0 and 3, and treble between 6 to 8. It all depends on which guitar I have plugged in and I will eq the amp around those settings I just described.
OK, I’ll use my ears!…
Proceeds to visually copy every setting on your archon…
Hey Jon, do you happen to have a bogner uberschall?
That’s a crazy one to dial in.
Love your vids.
I'd love to own a Bogner.... Maybe one day
Doesn’t matter the content of the video for me. I could listen to your tones all day. So tasty! 😍
Thanks! :)
Your settings on this are almost exactly what I end up with on 90% of amps after tweaking with my ears. Maybe manufacturers should just make those the 12 o'clock settings 😜
Every EQ knob on my Archon is set to 2 o'clock, even the presence and depth controls. But, my Mesa vertical 2x12 it's running into is pretty bright so I don't need to get too crazy with the eq'ing. However, like on something like a Marshall, I like kicking the lows and mids up and have the highs slightly lower.
I was ashamed a bit never to try extreme settings as I was told multiple times that scooping the mids out result in just noisy and loud guitars. But seeing the Mesa Mark V with no bass and mids but full treble was really-really eye opening. Went in and tried a bit toned down version on Fluff 2C amp sim and it did work super well! BTW do you guys do reamping in the sense that "Here's the song, here's my DI guitar, make the two work together"?
I do reamping, sure!
I think all comes back to the "preferations". When you dial in you get perfect modern drive but I think the tone is tasty also when EQ is set to noon for vintage-drive stuff
I don’t think a lot of guitarist realized that the EQ pots on most major brands of amplifiers are subtractive only. If you put the base mid and treble at five you haven’t put the amp in “the neutral position” you’ve actually attenuated everything. The actual neutral position is with everything at 10
This comment just blew my mind. I was one of “those” guitarists!
Bruh! That shit sounds lit on ALL the settings!
Some people do need to hear this but it is quite simple. You turn the knobs until they sound good.
If you wanna have fun with a cheaper amp, get a Peavey Windsor! I know this channel is more geared towards metal, but run an OD in the front as a boost (volume up ALL THE WAY) and it chugs nicely!
My Marshall JVM1H is pretty much the same, sounds pretty bad at noon but it sounds amazing when you crank the presence and treble!
I've never tried the JVM1H but it seems like a fun amp!
@@SonicDriveStudio Yeah it is :-) It's a pretty expensive Watt but if you can get your hand on one I would love to see a shoutout against the 410H :D I also would be very curious about how it would sound to use the 410 preamp into the 1 power amp and the other way around...
“Use your ears.” You couldn’t be more correct. Don’t just look at the knob dials, use your ears, especially when using different guitars, as the tone will vary from pickup to pickup. Btw, love the hoodie!
I've almost always done it with the mid cut nearly out, bass up a good bit, and treble up a lot. Once in a while I bring in the mid a little and cut the treble back a little.
That difference is pretty damn amazing
Great video.
Peavey 6534+ must be tweaked quite a bit.
Thanks!
Use EVH settings on that amp..but cut the Presence back to around 3
I feel like a lot of people call an amp "dark" or "bright" if they feel like they have to compensate by turning the knobs up or down. The Archon might need the treble or presence turned up to sound "good," which means it is natural "darker." But I don't understand why this matters; if the amp needs knobs tweaked and still sounds good, it doesn't matter what it "naturally" sounds like!
Now, we need Glenn Fricker to appreciate how big of a difference makes the amp! Yes, this is not a completely different sound, but a significant difference in tone by just moving amp settings
How does this amp sound with conventional tuning? it's really hard for me to judge. We play in D Standard so were a whole step down straight across. I would appreciate your thoughts.
Really love this type of post rock playing. Most demos ect play downtuned crap or boring hillbilly rock.
Tell us bro .. what amp favorite this your collection .. is possible choice only one .... make video abou and because ?
Since the tone controls only cut the signals, what happens if you transpose your settings to base them at 10. For example, you have them at 4,5 and 6, if you set the 6 up to 10 and the other two at 9 and 8? Sounds like I need to do more playing with this.
Depends heavily on the amp!
Some desperately need some cutting in the circuit (fender and marshall bass controls, for example) and some dont. The design intentions can and will always be different, and is always a coin toss (fender BASSman eh? Gotcha!). Then there's interactive controls like bass vs treble on vox style circuits. There's reversed controls, like tone cut on vox. There's EQ before clipping / gain, and EQ after clipping / gain. Sometimes the bandwidth changes with the amount of cut. Some controls are active instead of passive and can add boost.
Look up the tonestack calculator if you wanna have some visual on common / well known amps' EQs. Then look up Jim Lill and his amplifier tone video. Eye opening and super nerdy stuff.
The one thing I was always irritated by with players who misunderstand tube amps; they’d dime the gain and bass, scoop the mid all the way down, leave treble about noon. They’d do this every time they walked into the stores especially with Mesa amps. Yuck! Boogie’s with that custom taper on bass to accommodate all ranges of recto power-from single rectifier to triple… same preamp… different levels of headroom. This is something that applies in different ways with many tube rigs. There’s also balancing preamp gain with output volume. To get real sweet spots, it’s an art form to know how to blend preamp saturation with power amp breakup. One might say… establish your volume first to set your place in the mix, then eq, then gain; rebalance volume.
Another thing that almost nobody talks about when it comes to this subject. How much your tone is affected by the space your amplifier is placed in. I once moved my rehearsal from indoors to my front deck one day… just for kicks. I had to radically change my amp eq settings as it suddenly sounded way to honky in the mid and muffled in the high… had to scoop it A LOT! bring up the presence considerably. Open air as opposed to reflective surfaces changed my tone in stark.
Good points!
I have an Engl Invader II, it's REALLY honky set at noon.
Also, If don't use a Maxon808 to clean up the bottom-end, the tone suffers significantly.
Can't wait till my Red Seven Amp Central so I can see what tones I can record out of it using your methods :)
Enjoy the RedSeven!
@@SonicDriveStudio Thanks Jon, It's a shame you're not an affiliate for Luca. The decision was made by your demos and recommendation.
@@jimbotski we have a very good relationship so no worries!
Everything halfway is still a good starting point. Then just listen and add what there's too little of or subtract what there's too much of
That difference is huge and yes, with everything at noon that amp sound cheap and silly.... But I think it's a good point to start from when you try out a new amp.
Depends on the amp. If it doesn't sound good with the controls you notice soon enough as long as you trust your ears
My issue is that my peavy Delta blues 115 sounds so good at any setting so I'm having trouble dialing In it's perfect setting 😢
The whole point of EQ is to make up for variances in volume levels rooms variables etc. By setting the EQ you are tuning what the speaker produces. For example you want just enough Bass the cabinet to get involved. Basically just enough treble and mids.
Noon settings are basically irrelevant unless you're happening to use it exactly at the volume that it sounds good with those settings.
I like that idea a lot, but I wouldn't hold on to it too tightly, as it depends a lot on the topology of the amp. Where are the gain stages, aka where is the clipping happening. This is the main difference in an amps characteristic after all. Another thing to consider if you're using any power amp distortion is the presence control. It can be entirely taken out of the "EQ for the room" idea in that case, as it's part of the negative feedback loop which will affect the power amp distortion and overall feel of the power amp distortion (and it's effect changes based on the connected cab too because of impedance curves!). Sorry if that's a bit much nerding over amps, this stuff is just cool.
I just got a Peavey 6505+ 1x12 combo recently. Using my ears, I find the amp doesn't ''open up'' unless the presence is at like 8 or 9. Anyone else find that to be the case?
I have 6505+, presence is not lower than 8, otherwise a very dark sound, low and resonance at 0. It is this amplifier that needs to be presented in the video, it is quite difficult to set up, while quite common.
The pots in those amps are the wrong type (should be logarithmic, but they are linear, or vice versa) so that’s completely normal.
Something interesting, for me (and about me, I guess) is that while I was never afraid of twisting knobs to get any gear to sound good to my ears, there's also a level of... I don't know, "shame", that comes with it? Because of this idea that that's not how "professionals" do it. If you need to crank the treble, or bring the bass all the way down, or roll off the tone knob in the guitar, etc, etc, essentially relying on some more unusual settings, I - personally - start to see that as a crutch, based on the idea that this is not how Angus Young, or Vai, or Josh Homme, or any other players I look up to did it. Which is, objectively, a weird concern to have. But still one that I struggle with. Like it's my fault that I can't make my amp sound good unless I bring down the presence almost completely.
Anyway, this is why I enjoyed the first video and now this one. It's really good to see someone else go through the process of dialing an amp, to help dispel this notion that all your favorite records were made with just some veeeeery slight tweaking and nothing more. Great work, Jon!
Awesome! Cheers :)
The rest of the band/instruments also have a huge impact on the way the guitar sounds. I think for example Homme probably developed his sound/tone in the context of the band/recording, and then has to figure out how to carry it over to a live performance...
You should bear in mind that the reference sound of your favorite players is a recording. So you will never know how it actually sounded in the room. Even live performances are mic'ed and run through PA with EQ in the mix. There is IMO huge difference between good standalone tone and mix ready guitar tone. I quite liked the first tone setting(I like more mids). I would just cut the base freq. in the DAW to make it less muddy.
I actually pull my mids down a pinch further and treble back some..
But it sounds pretty good.
Not a fan of the 666 eq settings.
Whatever sounds good!
I honestly don't understand where the thought came from that would suggest setting all your knobs at 12 is an ideal setting. Why even have the knobs? Just make the EQ fixed at that point. You have to adjust eq, drive, etc to dial in different sounds. But then again, there are people who actually think garage band quality (not the software) recordings sound good because they're "raw". It's more a case of people don't know how to dial in a tone and they're justifying themselves.
That's very true!
Great A\B - poles apart
Yeah it makes a big difference!
Your settings give it clarity but you could use a bit more mid boost.
It's odd hearing people say the Archon is a dark amplifier. It's always been super bright to my ears.
What do you think of the comparison? It's bright yes, but only if you dial it in that way
all eq to full means it has no eq. its raw format before master
so your controls are not adding anything
like all eq to full & then play Twister only with gain / volume / master .
Or. all controlls to zero but master / gain / volume on full.
& play with Eq . fx loop eq where the shaping of the tone is most heared.
but like boost before is most felt
i encorege to experiment & where it takes you
Could be your amp is the best amp for you
People actually believe eq settings should be and stay at noon? At best I figured noon would just be a starting point to begin dialing in from and not actually being where you keep it at unless your ears just happen to like the settings there.
Some people subconsciously are afraid to stray far from the noon positions
night and day way better. it's quite a tight nice toneful amp and sounds great without a boost to me.
At high volumes, too much treble can be very annoying. At lower volumes, adding treble seems to improve clarity
Sometimes it's the other way around
I put a 6 band eq in the loop of my 6505 and it changed my life 😂
An EQ can be a powerful tool to have in your arsenal!
I think the Archon sucks at noon. The two ive had are just super super dark. Really had to push the presence and highs with the bright switch engaged.
Well you said exactly what i did lol. Touche lol
I start at the bottom and work up each till they start to sound good mesa start at zero
I think it makes sense for a manufacturer to use the public bias about setting controls to noon, and design it with that in mind.
That's some food for thought, definitely!
I believe at noon you are hearing the personality and sonic preferences of the designer. As a gear designer I’ve always felt that the “default” settings should reflect what you think represents a reasonable starting point for the majority of new users.
For anyone who is interested, im going to clone a profile of these settings of my Archon 50 with my Headrush core and upload it to the cloud.
3:50 I know a guy who didn't let me change settings to make tone more even and bright because.. idk, his amp will explode and whole town will burn down if I change things a bit
You can go Zack Wylde, move everything to max then back off until the sound does not annoy you anymore
Is that what he does?
The noon mindset is funny to me. Noon isn't actually flat for this kind of EQ circuit.
I don't think you have to defend yourself to people having dumb opinions.
Potentiometers have some of the worst tolerances of all parts in an amp, so even if an amp designer tried to make the amp sound best with all controls at noon, they could not guarantee that for all amps built. Combine that with the fact that the sound gets further influenced by guitars, cabs, mics etc.
Thanks and good points!
The Archon has really good tones even with settings at noon though.
Hmmmm
If Dime taught us anything it was to not be afraid to crank dials when required, which for some is err.... all the time.
I use the N position almost by default:
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B M T
But it always depends on the whole situation.
Would love to see how you EQ the Invective MH and the ENGL Ironball SE.
I would recommend checking out the videos I've done with those amps so far. More coming soon though!
@@SonicDriveStudio how do you prefer to balance the master/channel volume on the Ironball? I can't figure out which is better lower master with high channel volume vice versa or in the middle. Playing through a cab.
Less GAIN is MORE
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why? some call that "scooped"
Doesn't sound scooped to me?
bands that go noon are so hard for me to listen to, I just cant take it, Im stressing to hear the highs constantly
You make many great videos that affirm my choices and really do it in depth!!
Can you do this with the St James 6L6 please 😂
I don't have one... Why though? Can't you get good tones out of it?
@@SonicDriveStudio Well I’m 100% sure it’s not the amp. I’m just really bad at dialling in tones! Videos like this do help though :)