Will the USA ever develop a World Class Player?
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- The USMNT keeps improving year over year and soccer academies in the US continue to improve with it. However what has to be done in youth development to get the USMNT to that next level?
Today we have Augusto Carrizo, the father of NYCFC Prospect Maximo Carrizo, to talk about his overall perspective on this topic.
Time Stamps:
0:00 How to improve soccer youth development for the USMNT?
1:25 The "pre MLS Academy" days for a soccer player's development
4:56 The current structure of player development in the USA
8:30 How can we develop CREATIVE players?
14:20 Advice to soccer dads and moms
21:48 Major League soccer Academies, NYCFC
28:50 What needs to improve in the MLS Academy system?
35:05 USYNT and Argentina Youth National Team, how's their approach with Maximo Carrizo?
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I started playing soccer at 17, I didn't have my parents support when I was younger so I waited till I could drive, long story short, the highest level I got to play was the PDL division here in the states, I got a try out in Guatemala but wasn't able to go, Cruz Azul were willing to give me a try out but wasn't able to go due to finances, who knows how far I could of gone but money definitely stomp my growth.
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This was a good discussion Tac. Thanks for bringing on Maximo’s father to share his experience. I’m navigating my own son’s development in youth soccer which is a challenge. What I learned today was to get out of the way and avoid adding undue pressure on my son.
es muy cierto, un consejo que le podrías dar es: trata de hacer con El pie lo que haces con la mano en clases artísticas
que se divierta y que no sienta presión al jugar
This is great advice; I’m trying to be positive, question positively to only induce constructive, critical thinking l, and to praise and not be negatively critical and allow him and his coach to address problems and poor performance. The one thing I notice thinking back about the small club is that at a young age, there was no competition. The kids were just encouraged to play, have fun, and be creative if with the right coach.
My son is behind because we moved from a small club with no real opportunities, to a big club where he wasn’t being trained, and now we are at a brand new club where training is being provided, but there is no past success in club ball to lean on.
Im trying to learn and grateful for everyone sharing.
@@theFez_ Your son will be as good as the effort he puts in to his football and depending on his own talent for football.
My advice is to stop blaming other people and just let your son enjoy playing football.
It’s people like these two that make America such an awesome and fascinating country.
I wish Augusto and Maximo nothing but good health and success! Same for Tac as well of course !
Always enjoy your videos about youth development in the US. Great interview!
Filipo, always enjoy your videos and good job getting Maximo's Father on as a guest. If you could get another parent from another Player that is doing great things like Maximo, that would be another great video and something to compare to this kid. Great Video.
bring in Claudio Reyna for the hellfire and brimstone that will descend upon us all
You're killing it Fillipo. Great to get the views from a very informed firsthand perspective with experience inside and outside our system. We need more of this instead of more of the same self perpetuating views from inside the bubble. We ARE getting better, but need to keep working, looking for ways to improve. Taking cues from the best, most accomplished nations in the world is obviously a good direction to look.
I have watched, played, refereed, and coached the game for four decades. For my son, I didn't coach his first season to see if he even liked it. When I saw he liked it, I coached him. He progressed so fast that he played a rec game two age groups above his own and had 5 goals in the first half. After that, I realized he was ready for Academy and has been playing U9 Academy, which he started playing when he was 6 years old. I take him to the park every week for free play. Sometimes, I play with him, and other times, I just let him do his thing. I try not to force anything on him, but I do believe in motivating him by taking him to games and just playing as often as he can.
Very rich discussion. Thank you. So many - talk - that have - never - developed a player - as a coach - or parent. Augusto special dude. He has developed his player - in our context - where it is maybe more likely to ruin a player - and he has some observations - about the system - that are very well thought-out. When he talks about 'practice players' he is on point. I have to finish the listen - but just that concept - that MLS Academies develop 'practice players' - sometimes people say - 'robot players' - and - not at all the fault or knock on the players - the kids are excelling in the context they exist - but - how do you get over this? Looking forward to finishing this up. Top class discussion. Thank you. Keep it going - you are on a roll Fillipo.
This guy has an accent but he has been probably one of the most eloquent interviews I have seen on the channel. Great job Tac!
I see our system and league progressing pretty fast and I believe that our country is starting to take soccer more seriously and with that happening we’re gonna dominate the world stage like we dominate the rest of the sports we take seriously
Is there a country that takes a sport seriously and isn't competitive at the world stage?
For Belgium it's Soccer and cycling, we have some of the best players in both.
In the Netherlands it's soccer and ice skating. Same deal.
In some European countries it's basket, they have people playing in the NBA.
etc. etc.
I guess this applies less to be less wealthy countries but still.
That was a great video, really enjoy your content.
Very good insight. I agree that america needs an environment that allows kids to learn and enjoy the game without structure. This is probably more of a cultural thing, but if kids play pickup games and use their imagination without any pressure they will develop skills that can not be taught. You can't coach a love for the game.
Exactly! These problems that need to be fixed are the ones that MLS, USL, and USSF can't really do too much about. These US sociological issues, not US Soccer Academy issues. The suburbs make it really hard to do pickup stuff, because you require a car to get anywhere, and these places could be 15-20 minutes away by car, which makes structured systems the most efficient way to play sports. but that keep the creativity from happening. Also, for most American parents, youth sports is mostly just a high quality Babysitting service. They drop the kids off for an hour or 2 while they leave to go do some errands. They don't play with the kids. They don't or cant make time for it. Because America, on the whole, is built to get you to work a lot for as little pay as businesses can get away with. And to get a job, you have to go to college. Which means all the sport's main goal is to get you noticed by college scouts so you can get a scholarship. Its why since the 1950's, when the suburbs and the Interstate Highways were built, baseball has been drooping. It is a sport that greatly benefited from late 19th-early 20th century urban Stickball culture. Its also why American Football, which has always relied on the college system since the beginning, was able to take the #1 spot. The only reason that Basketball didn't get too effected was because the urban basketball court infrastructure was already built by the time of white flight and it didn't require a lot of space like Baseball does. In short, until the suburb and the car are no longer in charge of the American social landscape, soccer will always have a low ceiling in this country.
I don't think 🤔 the original comment was pointing out the interstates or logistics issues. There is a difference between adult college students in d1,d2,d3 educational institutes structure, and the little young kids playing young pick-up games without expecting much ridicule at the end of the day at that age which i think it was the original comments angle. The skills will follow.
Lastly, the drafted adult or junior athletes in the NFL and the NBA, NHL leagues or Lacrosse, ground Hockey, or other were divided into separate leagues on separate divisional fronts of the land. Colleges decided to make money off of the scouting or recruiting in order to compete with these other top tier leagues competition wise, i.e., colleges leagues, whichever were already attracting students vise versa even overseas. Note that the Premier League too have academies and yes, im assuming that they have ctizens from overseas who travel in too. Sponsors will follow accordingly. If that wasn't the original comments take than this fault was all mine then. Good day know.
@@Truman5555 good points. I agree, we need more pickup soccer for kids but it’s hard logistically in America.
Get rid of pay for play, and start scouting in difficult neighborhoods. I don't think there has been a world class player that came from riches.
Agree but a couple of world class players. They had dads that were also players in their days.
@noting76 true but those cases are few and far between. Here in the US we don't have any world class players to begin with
@@carlosballadares7782 I agree that pay to play has to decrease but what’s your solution?
@noting76 I think USSF first needs to decide how serious they want to win a world cup, or if they are satisfied with the status quo. If they are serious about winning a world cup, they need to invest more money for scouting in lower income neighborhoods, where pick-up games happen. Those are places where you find those players that have the "it" factor
@@carlosballadares7782 that’s the problem is not USSF job to do that. That’s MLS job.
Best interview of all time!!!! Incredible!!!
Nice job Tac!
Good job Tac! More of this, please!
Great work👏👏👏
Great interview legends!!
That was great, I would love to hear more from Augusto about Maximo's early years.
Great interview Tac
Great discussion, the guest brought up a lot of valid point and seems more competent than those in our federation
I think with the strides you guys have made, it wont be long, just keep getting youngsters into the system, youll strike gold eventually
They'll strike gold with a kid with the US nationality growing up in Amsterdam or Stutgart before they strike gold with a kid born in Texas. I say.
@@Londronable its hard to say, top players can come from anywhere at any time, you really never know, i mean no of us in Europe would have said someone like Bosnia would produce anyone good, then along comes Edin Dzeko (he wasnt world class but he was good) or Romania with Gheorghe Hagi (i think he was world class) back in the day to smash expectations, i dont think you guys are doing as badly as some people think, the biggest problem you guys have is CONCACAF its the 2nd worst confederation next to Oceania, im glad for you lot youre in the Copa America against some CONMEBOL teams, better standard for you guys to compete with
good content tac👏
Great video
Spot on
Something else about developing youth players. A regional camp was held for west cost u14 kids and I happen to have played against one of the kids from the Timbers academy. The kid is crazy good with the ball and that's because he plays a lot of futsal. I know because of how annoying it's to try and take the ball away from him.
Futsal was R9's first love. Said it's where he learned to control the ball and such.
He was that kid that scored 10+ goals every game.
I feel like most parents want see their kids playing in a different nation. Like if you from England, Brazil, Mexico and Argentina
Thanks
I feel this video. My kid is 9. I wish there was more pickup soccer for him. I try to play with him 1v1 and that has helped him grow but that is limited. He’s in a club now but that isn’t nearly enough touches compared to Brazilian/argentine kids of the same age. They only will get the touches and experimentation though pickup soccer. *sigh*
Solid issue to address
Not with pay-to-play. Your World Cup winning squad is here. It is your sourcing method. With pay to play you are selecting for economic ability. Without pay to play and only competing based on football, then you are actually sourcing players based solely on their ability to play the sport. Also there has to be a streamlined nationwide system set in place expeditiously without waiting 40 years for business interests to converge. This would source from all available outlets be it from clubs, high schools, community colleges, and colleges and universities
When you think that Even Americas best player right now (Pulisic) had to lean into his polish roots and go to poland to train and develop, it doesn't paint a very flattering picture for US football.
In Europe, talent comes before money. Clubs invest in talent for long term reward. In the US it is the opposite, you pay your way first and if you are lucky you have a job at the end.
yep, Carrizo is right, with the U.S. youth academy you can build correct/decent players but you cant raise players like Messi, Pele, Maradona, Ronaldinho, etc
Well they are also just naturally talented, it could happen.
@@bluejayredemption6462 That's not the point the point in those naturally gifted talents will never be found in the US because the US measures more on playing a system rather than creativity and individuality. Guys like Messi are system CREATORS not systems players. You play to him not the other way around.
How many Messi, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Pele exist outside of Brazil and Argentina? These players are generational that's why you don't see them popping up in other soccer craze country.
@@oyaml1211 and lack of ambition
en lo personal no creo en el mejor jugador del mundo, para mí no existe
Cada jugador tuvo su época y en su época fue el mejor, eso sí para mí es lo más correcto
ahora si en Estados Unidos saldrá jugador de una época como Messi Maradona o Pelé es posible por qué no?
pero creo que las academias deben de ser gestionados por los clubes
ellos deben captar todo el talento y como es algo inesperado, el potencial de Estados Unidos y Canadá está por descubrir Seúl porque son los más nuevos del bloque occidental en empezar a practicar el fútbol de forma profesional
I think he's referring to RB when he talks about survival of the fittest and the club not having patience with the players. Am I wrong?
They’ve done it for nearly every other sport. As long as it keep growing in popularity and more people participate at a younger age the odds get better. It’s a numbers game.
Most sports are the same.
Thats the thing, but love for the sport not just numbers is huge
@@SargentPeppers7 MLS has to do better with scouting because 25+ million people watch the final and we still don’t have a good player.
@@noting7678 yeah I get it but is not that easy is a "new sport" for most people I think in the USA so it will take some years to get to elite players
True before parents didn’t play or even know the game now. Now we do
You guy of to understand, you can't even compare both US and Argentina when it comes to development that like night and day lol, you have kids that as they barn that what do they and they don't even needed to go to any academy It's just organically natural like that its in the DNA ...I swear same thing in Brazil .. and in other football powerhouse countries ..
Mls wise , kind of, Alphonso Davies has huge potential to reach that level if not already. I do think the usmnt is a couple years away. Very soon
All I got from this video is Maximo to the USMNT confirmed.
Augusto has said that there's no way Máximo doesn't play for Argentina if given the chance
Yeah, don’t think Maximo is gonna play for the US.
@@SargentPeppers7LOL, he never said that
@@nl5703 I didn't say in this interview brother look it up
@@SargentPeppers7 It’s not his fathers decision
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Seems like most players we develop and have serious potential end up having injury issues. Why is that
The MLS, the men's National Team invest in junior programs where the clubs pay for the schools not the other way of having to pay out of pocket by the parents.
i want this kid
I just watched a subpar Reyna vs subpar Pulisic yesterday. But it was nice to see more Americans on the field than Brazilians during a champions league match. 😁
very good observation... I dont know about BVB but I think Chelsea only got one brazilian, Silva and he wasnt on the field yesterday in CL game.
Reyna actually had a good game.
@@TXKorea meh, was average everyone looked bad even Bellingham so was the stand out
Top athletic talent historically hasn't gone into soccer. That has limited the US internationally. I am not saying you could take an NFL or NBA player and he'd be able to play in the EPL or something, like Lebron could step into Man City and hang. No of course not. It's more complicated and starts much younger than that. But the fact is top young athletes when they get to the point where they focus and look towards college or pros, they are usually focusing in other sports. There is A LOT more talent in soccer as their first sport now than previously, but then you have to question the pay for play nature of so much youth sports in the US and how soccer is a formal and organized sport in the US in a way it isn't elsewhere.
Name a better duo than Tac and Argentine guests
They already did.
Landon Donovan was a world class player.
US hasn't produced anything close before or since
I don't know how clubs are structured in the USA. Do you have a club in each "small town" (5,000 inhabitants)? It must be understood that in the rest of the world there are football clubs in all villages of 300 inhabitants. And that almost every month there are multiple matches of children villages against villages.
With a country like the USA you almost need one League per state.
In-game decision making...
MLS: memory
World: muscle memory
The answer to that question is yes, only if Microsoft bio engineers this USMNT player.
Im from argentina.. so of course that i could say alot of things about the interview.. but in order to understand a cultural thing.. in the states you have an expression "soccer mom", putting apart the sexual meaning.. in argentina that expression does not exist because no kid would be happy to go to play with his mother.. so once the futbol means an identity perspective for an american boy that will be the first step to get another level
What did the Georgian youth development do right to create Kravash Kvaratskhelia? What did the Norewegians do to get Haaland? Liberia to create George Weah? World class players come from all over, not just Argentina and Brazil. Argentina currently does not have a young player near the level of Haaland or Kvaratskhelia.
Julian Alvarez, Alejandro Garnacho, Enzo Fernandez, Alexis MacAllister, Lautaro Martinez
@@gustavoolivera7240 Not a single of them is as good as Haaland or Kvaratskhelia.
@@ide1337myself every one of them won a world cup using their world class skills. Alvarez is much more than a striker, and very effective even though he´s played way less minutes than Haaland for a long time, MacAllister is creative and with high football IQ, Lautaro is a beast in Inter. Southamerican are underrated by europeans and rest of the world. It´s ok we still produce with brazil the best players in history and europeans buy them, and we use their better organized leagues, with more $$$$, to upgrade them. But skills, that $$$ can´t buy.
@@ide1337myself you don't know football brother julian alvarez is better than both
The pay for play has gotta go.
It’s gone
Looking at NFL on the NBA your athletes are superhuman if they focused on football yes it’s a possibility Look at Haaland If he goes up against any NFL player or NBA player he’s average 6”3 and fast
DOES MLS HAVE A RESERVE TEAM? AND DOES THE RESERVE TEAM PLAY BEFORE THE BIG GAME AT THE SAME VENUE? WHY DOES MLS ALLOW 8 ;FOREIGNERS PER TEAM!?
It's pay to play everywhere. The money just filters down from the Professional clubs elsewhere. When the U.S. gets to a certain level it will here also.
You should become a manger man
I think they probably will just in like 10 years
The US gets the best players that can afford to play.
Short answer difficult but not impossible.
I think the USMNT will develope class players, if they can join the right teams across the world and leagues then the ycan develope
MLS has 32 teams and counting, it's growing in popularity...the U.S. is a sleeping giant. Give it a few more years, count on it!
Not until soccer becomes a poor kid's sport in the USA. Sort of like the reason why the US keeps churning out the best basket ball players in the world. Like how Brazil keeps churning out the best soccer players in the world. There is a level of hunger to succeed where there is no plan B. These are the type of players you want on your team. They are used to fighting AND overcoming the odds. $0.02
Great interview. It seems youth development is on the right path, but USMNT is run by clowns. Hopefully, they get all new people.
USA POPULATION IS 330,000,000.!
simple take soccer to the hood and make it free
Soccer is free 😂. Just get some rocks and use them as the goal post and begin playing on the streets or in a corner of a park. How do you think kids do it in poor neighborhood in Latin America?
What do you mean the hood?
Not so simple. Already, we have all MLS Academies in major mets - and - they are free. Look closely and you will find - many famous basketball players come from outside big cities - Larry Bird, French Lick, IN, Charles Barkley, Leeds, AL, Michael Jordan, Wilmington, NC. Soccer needs a bigger footprint - it needs to be in all High Schools. HS is the only free platform. Have a nice day.
@@ba1996 Soccer in HS already exists.
@@ba1996 not going to work. The best players and teams aren't in the US like in other sports. Kids here have to get to Europe sooner than later or they have no chance on being a WC/Star. That window is too tight.
No, but england will. GET BALOGUN
Soccer? Can’t take you seriously it’s called football
Guess what? 75% of the USA can't take you or the entire rest of the world seriously when you keep being hung up on names or relegation. Either get over it or drop dead. That is precisely why 75% of the USA prefer other sports and do not care for your "beautiful game". For the primary reason(s) why the USA does grow the sport is not names but the suburbanization of the country - check out the reply by Marksmen16 to the comment by Marshall Koon above.
No! No! The system is a failure
If you want to produce top class American players, you first need to produce a first class soccer league.. With MLS it will never happen!! Why are you guys so blind to that fact? At the moment you are relying on players that play in Europe, or you scurry around looking for foreign players that you can possibly naturalise.. It’s all pathetic guys. Get real, or stick with gridiron.
Well, my first suggestion is to stop calling it soccer because it’s not soccer it’s football. The name soccer is completely foreign to anyone outside of the United States. It means absolutely nothing and no one in any part of the world calls it that, but here the United States. The name soccer means absolutely nothing and I think it’s completely beneath the game of football.
There I gave you the secret sauce .
Taylor Booth could end up being world class. Was he part of the USMNT youth system?
Nope