John was my uncle and was an amazing rock and blues guitarist, he had his demons yeah but he had a heart of gold and loved his family.... Rest in peace!!
Hey, that's awesome. Throughout my life the punk/proto-punk movement has been really important to me. I'm currently working on my Ph.D. and would be interested in chatting more as I work toward my dissertation. Let me know, thank you.
They both looked cool I think when Ramones started johnny Ramone looked the coolest and then Dee Dee surpassed him when he cut his hair got an earring and tattoos and thunders started the hair metal look
There is no more such a great ppl like Dee Dee, Stiv and Johnny. Thay were an huge influence to the next generationes and the ray's of shine between the cloud's of the darkness. [*] Rest in peace all of 'Em. Never forgotten, always deeply in heart... ♡♡♡...
god, that's sad that he looked so ill his friends thought he had AIDS. coroner's report allegedly said that he had advanced leukemia. he must have been in so much pain. there's some great clips of shows from his last year of life here on YT, he looks so rough, but his voice, the guitar..that still had so much life. He was, in some ways, kind of a mysterious, secretive person. We might not ever know what actually happened to him. RIP JOHNNY -- there will never be another!!!
One of the best comments I've read on Johnny Thunders comment sections. I feel like I could have written this comment myself. I do think however he was Beat to Death and dosed with some bad acid due to all of his money from his tour from Japan being stolen along with some of his prized guitars and the majority of his methadone. I think the guys who did it left enough methadone to make it look like an OD but they said the levels in his system were non-fatal and there were some sketchy people in that area, always, but that night in particular. Johnny was tough and smart but if someone hits you with the bad dose of acid (whether they drop it your drink or hold you down and force you to take it) and it's potent enough you are simply going to wig out. People say he took a bunch of methadone to try to come down and that's what killed him, but methadone takes forever to leave your system and the levels would still have been lethal in the toxicology report. Acid however will be long gone from the system in just a short period of time. Im open to other theories, we will never know.
That being said thats just my theory, I agree with you theres 7, 8, maybe 15 ways or more it coulda went down, coulda been the leukemia but I doubt he would be rocking so hard the last year of his life with non treated leukemkia if you were months from dying...though it would have, again in my opinion, a serious problem and probably have killed him by the mid late 90s if untreated. We will never know, as you said :/ RIP Johnny, changed the guitar, the scene, and my life forever. Also RIP to guys like Billy Murica, Jerry Nolan, Stiv Bators, Dee Dee Ramone, Willie, Razzle, Marc Bolan and many more.
Aaron Hildebrand LSD can only be detected by taking spinal fluid. It’s toxicity can almost never be determined. He was curled up in fetal position. I think that clue is the golden answer.
Juan Fifarek same with heroin can never tell the purity of it, and when johnny died they mentioned that there wasn’t a lethal amount in his system, considering he was a heavy user and over the years developed a massive tolerance to it
So....the original movie is STILL m.i.a. huh? It really is the best version of this movie. You'll know it's the original when the movie starts off with Jayne County is performing/interviewed and the noise of a tattoo needle is background noise.
DD-"you know... Like in the karate movies..." **plays lick unlike anything in any karate movie ever** "I don't do that, but if you're a musician it'll save your hands."- same source re choking people Poor MC King, dude truly was wired differently in a disarming way; childlike yet demented..
Willy Deville was an interesting guy. Kind of strange. Kind of a shape shifter. He had the N'allins bluesman accent kicking. I wish there was more footage.
Another very interesting dope fiend who'd give you the shirt off his back. COOLEST dude ever. RIP Willy & Pink!! Note: Pink was his VERY jealous old lady ...
He had the falcon before his heroin habit , The Les Paul juniors were very cheap guitars and were quite affordable in pawn shops .Sometimes he just borrowed guitars .
The LP Jr. is a fucking sick guitar. I don't know shit about guitars but those are always badass. Andy G from the Devil Dogs always played one. Raw sound. @@jeromealexandre4162
My theory, Poor Johnny, noones death should be a mystery, the logistic are pretty straight forward, i believe he got had for his money and drugs by any means, dosed and murdered to be passed on as jus another overdose bc the police didnt want to make something more than that .
Wow... New Orleans is a rough town, I think Johnny had a more romantic idea of it, but it doesn't seem like an easy area when you don't know too many people. Everybody seems to be incredibly poor and everybody's hustling and doing drink & drugs. And after Johnny died Mink DeVille just takes stuff from him; sunglasses, a hat, a jacket, etc. But who knows, maybe Johnny would have wanted him to have it. He came to NO because he wanted to make a record in the style that DeVille just made, he loved that record. (Also because he wanted to go there for years, and "to make a blues record with a bunch of old black blues musicians, and make them some money..") He saved up a lot of songs over the years, but never got the chance to bring them out. What a fucking shame.. He was also dying of Leukemia, if you look at the autopsy report in 'Looking For Johnny' he had advanced Leukemia and beginning cirrhosis of the liver, no HIV like many think. He knew he had Leukemia from the day his daughter was born in that hospital in Sweden in '88, I think he never told a lot of people because he wanted to protect his girlfriend and newborn daughter Jamie from that news...
So there are four different versions of this film floating around, none are the same length time wise, what’s the difference besides edits and whatnot? I did notice the quality fluctuates though🤷🏻♂️and which is the closest to what the director was going to release? Sorry, all these questions are floating through my head as I’m watching this.
I do think he was somehow falsely befriended or lipped off to the wrong couple guys (maybe both?)... then some how beat to Death (body bag shaped in a U could have been the fetal position) and dosed with some bad acid due to all of his money from his tour from Japan being stolen along with some of his prized guitars and the majority of his methadone. I think the guys who did it left enough methadone to make it look like an OD but they said the levels in his system were non-fatal and there were some sketchy people in that area, always, but that night in particular. Johnny was tough and smart but if someone hits you with the bad dose of acid (whether they drop it your drink or hold you down and force you to take it) and it's potent enough...you are simply going to wig out (johnny was not a big psychadelic guy that Ive heard). People say he took a bunch of methadone to try to come down and that's what killed him, but methadone takes forever to leave your system and the levels would still have been lethal in the toxicology report. Acid however will be long gone from the system in just a short period of time. Im open to other theories, and its interesting, sad, and we will likely never know.
That being said thats just my theory which is good as a guess. I agree with you theres 7, 8, mabe 15 ways or more it coulda went down, coulda been the leukemia but I doubt he would be rocking so hard the last year of his life with non treated leukemkia if you were months from dying...though it almost certainly would have, again in my opinion, a serious problem and probably have killed him by the mid late 90s if untreated. We will never know, as is said :/ RIP Johnny, changed the guitar, the scene, and my life forever. Also RIP to guys like Billy Murica, Jerry Nolan, Stiv Bators, Dee Dee Ramone, Willie, Razzle, Marc Bolan and many more.
@@nothx962 You can take an awful amount of methadone with tolerance. LD differs so much with tolerance. I hadn't heard the acid theory. I'm not a psychedelic guy. Always liked Downes. Now I'm clean.
I grew up in NOLA, and I still live here. Easily could've been a hundred people that rolled him for dope or money or whatever. Everybody acts friendly around here but if you don't know who they are it's easy to get taken in. We had a friend a few years ago that came down from NYC to see us play and met a girl in a bar, took her for a walk, got robbed at gunpoint from her actual boyfriend and then beaten so badly he was in the hospital for weeks. Happens every day, not as much anymore in the quarter since you have to almost be wealthy to live in most places, but it has always happened and probably always will.
Junkies,We "ALL" Have an 😇Angel on One Shoulder,and the 👿Devil on the Other'! "One Foot on the Ground,and One in the Grave"!👣"It takes a Lifetime to get Clean,but some will Die Inbetween"!⚰⚱ "No Freewill,or Choice,Just Fate and Destiny At Work"!🎸🎤💉💉💊💊😨😿
hey congrats on being cleaned up. i disagree with the "no free will" thing but whatever helps you as an individual is valuable. there's no easy way out. Whatever method works for you, GOOD JOB!! good luck and stuff, dude
I agree with poster above me. Spot on, great post. I've lived/am living it at 30 but am functioning and doing a heck of a lot better and using less than i was from 23 to 27. Still alot of work to do but its worth it. Cheers.
Hey Al? Or is it Mr. Jones? You said many months ago that you would upload the version of Born To Lose that starts off with Jayne County performing. Will you possibly do that soon? It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Hey Donnie. I replied to your last message which included a link to a blog where you can download a great copy of the version you seek. Did you see the message?
@@alabasterjones7243 Thanks a lot, douchebag. I picked up a virus from your shitty fucking website. DO NOT FOLLOW THE LINK THIS IDIOT POSTED. I NOW HAVE TO SCRUB MY COMPUTER AFTER PICKING UP A VIRUS THERE.
ARE YOU EVER GONNA POST THE ORIGINAL BORN TO LOSE MOVIE??? SO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN...JAYNE COUNTY IS AT THE BEGINNING & TOWARD THE END THEY TALK TO THE JAPANESE PROMOTER & HOW HE CAME UP WITH 'SOCIETY MAKES ME SAD', INSTEAD OF...'MAKES ME SCARED'. ITS THE BEST VERSION, IF YOU DONT HAVE IT DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT CAN BE GOTTEN???
It was a terrible choice by the director to have the live song playing while Dee Dee was talking @ around the 48:00 mark. You can barely hear what he's talking about.
there was a pic of JT... haven't seen it in years... but he's standing in between two white dudes, one is wearing a wife beater, and has cornrows, JT looks green. and very thin. I have searched over and over and havent seen it since about 2000. He didn't look healthy at all towards the end.
renrav renraven I think your referring to the tattoo he got 2 days before he passed on? Or most likely it was in New Orleans. He also recorded a version of Born to Lose the day before his death. Someone knows something. Just pieces of human shit with no moral compass
@@joshjuanfifarek7382 sorry for my late reply!! no this picture was not at the jimmy wong studio. who knows where or it was taken. but it was close to the end
Justin Case ur an idiot ur watching a thunders doc. he revolutionized glam and even tho he never considered himself a punk he spearheaded the punk movement and inspired many many bands to come. and then those bands would go on to inspire more, and start “movements” of their own. Example; the sex pistols (one of the most influential punk bands)even tho u can tell the sound apart the pistols were heavily inspired by the dolls more specifically him; then the pistols would go on to inspire bands like nirvana, which is also another very influential band
i may have a small penis but I may be an idiot, but JT was still a much bigger idiot than me. I really don’t give a crap about if or how many other idiots he influenced. The guy couldn’t play, couldn’t sing, couldn’t write and was a drug addict and that eventually killed him. He was a complete loser. Whoever feels influenced by someone like him needs professional help.
Justin Case are you stupid or something? u have nothing rly to say other then he’s a drug addict and couldn’t play or anything, CUS HE WAS SMACKED OUT. it’s unfortunate but that’s how the punk scene was in the 70s everybody was high and most the bands were dogshit but it was about the lyrics and attitude
John was my uncle and was an amazing rock and blues guitarist, he had his demons yeah but he had a heart of gold and loved his family.... Rest in peace!!
are you marianne's son?
That’s awesome! Your uncle is one of my heroes!!
Your uncle is literally a rock and roll legend.
Hey, that's awesome. Throughout my life the punk/proto-punk movement has been really important to me. I'm currently working on my Ph.D. and would be interested in chatting more as I work toward my dissertation. Let me know, thank you.
Once a junkie always a junkie.
Johnny and Dee Dee both have a childlike quality and it comes through in their music. I think that was their strength.
They both looked cool I think when Ramones started johnny Ramone looked the coolest and then Dee Dee surpassed him when he cut his hair got an earring and tattoos and thunders started the hair metal look
There is no more such a great ppl like Dee Dee, Stiv and Johnny. Thay were an huge influence to the next generationes and the ray's of shine between the cloud's of the darkness.
[*] Rest in peace all of 'Em. Never forgotten, always deeply in heart... ♡♡♡...
My god, get grammar lessons
@The Joker Joker. Hi. Joke:"knock, knock"..?
John Strika aw shut the fuck up vanilla ice
@@johnstrika9170 lol
Walter Lure now too.
Xo
I love this movie and Thunders
I miss you Johnny.....xoxoxo
I love you Johnny ❤
I’d love to see the full interviews that were used for all versions
Poor Willy😞😢😭 I loved him.
I remember seeing him on tv performing as a kid & had the biggest crush on him. He was so good looking.
Maria M G oh my! me too!! ❤️
god, that's sad that he looked so ill his friends thought he had AIDS. coroner's report allegedly said that he had advanced leukemia. he must have been in so much pain. there's some great clips of shows from his last year of life here on YT, he looks so rough, but his voice, the guitar..that still had so much life. He was, in some ways, kind of a mysterious, secretive person. We might not ever know what actually happened to him. RIP JOHNNY -- there will never be another!!!
One of the best comments I've read on Johnny Thunders comment sections. I feel like I could have written this comment myself. I do think however he was Beat to Death and dosed with some bad acid due to all of his money from his tour from Japan being stolen along with some of his prized guitars and the majority of his methadone. I think the guys who did it left enough methadone to make it look like an OD but they said the levels in his system were non-fatal and there were some sketchy people in that area, always, but that night in particular. Johnny was tough and smart but if someone hits you with the bad dose of acid (whether they drop it your drink or hold you down and force you to take it) and it's potent enough you are simply going to wig out. People say he took a bunch of methadone to try to come down and that's what killed him, but methadone takes forever to leave your system and the levels would still have been lethal in the toxicology report. Acid however will be long gone from the system in just a short period of time. Im open to other theories, we will never know.
That being said thats just my theory, I agree with you theres 7, 8, maybe 15 ways or more it coulda went down, coulda been the leukemia but I doubt he would be rocking so hard the last year of his life with non treated leukemkia if you were months from dying...though it would have, again in my opinion, a serious problem and probably have killed him by the mid late 90s if untreated. We will never know, as you said :/ RIP Johnny, changed the guitar, the scene, and my life forever. Also RIP to guys like Billy Murica, Jerry Nolan, Stiv Bators, Dee Dee Ramone, Willie, Razzle, Marc Bolan and many more.
@Logan Stroganoff never mind the polis.mr deville needs to reveal what he really knows....
Aaron Hildebrand LSD can only be detected by taking spinal fluid. It’s toxicity can almost never be determined. He was curled up in fetal position. I think that clue is the golden answer.
Juan Fifarek same with heroin can never tell the purity of it, and when johnny died they mentioned that there wasn’t a lethal amount in his system, considering he was a heavy user and over the years developed a massive tolerance to it
So sad about john spacely 😢 he was cool in story of a junkie.
The guy next to Willy looks like like the fellow next to Townes in heartworm highways
So....the original movie is STILL m.i.a. huh? It really is the best version of this movie. You'll know it's the original when the movie starts off with Jayne County is performing/interviewed and the noise of a tattoo needle is background noise.
I had that version and seeded it for a long time.
It the dvd version
It's on Internet Archive, along with all the other edits
and when Johhney is walking into the dealer house to cope in the very beginning RITE ? where did it go
There were some great,s that started the scene, and he was one of them
. now there in a band up there
DD-"you know... Like in the karate movies..." **plays lick unlike anything in any karate movie ever**
"I don't do that, but if you're a musician it'll save your hands."- same source re choking people
Poor MC King, dude truly was wired differently in a disarming way; childlike yet demented..
The scene with Gringo dying of AIDS is hard to watch. Sobering. No pun intended.
Wow, best version of personality crisis by David...prima BALLerina...!
Willy Deville was an interesting guy. Kind of strange. Kind of a shape shifter. He had the N'allins bluesman accent kicking. I wish there was more footage.
Another very interesting dope fiend who'd give you the shirt off his back. COOLEST dude ever. RIP Willy & Pink!!
Note: Pink was his VERY jealous old lady ...
Live like Lemmy.
Wow! Was that a Grech White Falcon he was playing? How could they afford all those cool guitars And still buy dope ?
enablers
He had the falcon before his heroin habit , The Les Paul juniors were very cheap guitars and were quite affordable in pawn shops .Sometimes he just borrowed guitars .
He didn't own anything. All from friends and family.
record advances, selling out small theaters, touring
The LP Jr. is a fucking sick guitar. I don't know shit about guitars but those are always badass. Andy G from the Devil Dogs always played one. Raw sound. @@jeromealexandre4162
My theory, Poor Johnny, noones death should be a mystery, the logistic are pretty straight forward, i believe he got had for his money and drugs by any means, dosed and murdered to be passed on as jus another overdose bc the police didnt want to make something more than that .
Yep. Sloppy, lazy police work let a legend"s murderer off scott free without a care or worry in the world.
He wasn't murdered. His scumbag friends stole all his shit after he died, but that happens with all addicts.
I want to know the story about the hat.
Wow... New Orleans is a rough town, I think Johnny had a more romantic idea of it, but it doesn't seem like an easy area when you don't know too many people. Everybody seems to be incredibly poor and everybody's hustling and doing drink & drugs. And after Johnny died Mink DeVille just takes stuff from him; sunglasses, a hat, a jacket, etc. But who knows, maybe Johnny would have wanted him to have it. He came to NO because he wanted to make a record in the style that DeVille just made, he loved that record. (Also because he wanted to go there for years, and "to make a blues record with a bunch of old black blues musicians, and make them some money..") He saved up a lot of songs over the years, but never got the chance to bring them out. What a fucking shame.. He was also dying of Leukemia, if you look at the autopsy report in 'Looking For Johnny' he had advanced Leukemia and beginning cirrhosis of the liver, no HIV like many think. He knew he had Leukemia from the day his daughter was born in that hospital in Sweden in '88, I think he never told a lot of people because he wanted to protect his girlfriend and newborn daughter Jamie from that news...
New Orleans is Sketchy as hell
My sister lived in new Orleans the music and the food is good
So there are four different versions of this film floating around, none are the same length time wise, what’s the difference besides edits and whatnot? I did notice the quality fluctuates though🤷🏻♂️and which is the closest to what the director was going to release? Sorry, all these questions are floating through my head as I’m watching this.
I wondered the same thing Marty
Good to see you at the Faction show at blue lamp..that was a good show
There’s five versions and I want to know which one to watch
Unless I watch them all
the official version of this isn’t on youtube and is by far the best.
original version yw (=
song @ almost at the send of I sold my soul
C'est le #1 Ça et yen a 5..
Et le tout premier bien-sûr..
CHATTERBOX !
I do think he was somehow falsely befriended or lipped off to the wrong couple guys (maybe both?)... then some how beat to Death (body bag shaped in a U could have been the fetal position) and dosed with some bad acid due to all of his money from his tour from Japan being stolen along with some of his prized guitars and the majority of his methadone. I think the guys who did it left enough methadone to make it look like an OD but they said the levels in his system were non-fatal and there were some sketchy people in that area, always, but that night in particular. Johnny was tough and smart but if someone hits you with the bad dose of acid (whether they drop it your drink or hold you down and force you to take it) and it's potent enough...you are simply going to wig out (johnny was not a big psychadelic guy that Ive heard). People say he took a bunch of methadone to try to come down and that's what killed him, but methadone takes forever to leave your system and the levels would still have been lethal in the toxicology report. Acid however will be long gone from the system in just a short period of time. Im open to other theories, and its interesting, sad, and we will likely never know.
That being said thats just my theory which is good as a guess. I agree with you theres 7, 8, mabe 15 ways or more it coulda went down, coulda been the leukemia but I doubt he would be rocking so hard the last year of his life with non treated leukemkia if you were months from dying...though it almost certainly would have, again in my opinion, a serious problem and probably have killed him by the mid late 90s if untreated. We will never know, as is said :/ RIP Johnny, changed the guitar, the scene, and my life forever. Also RIP to guys like Billy Murica, Jerry Nolan, Stiv Bators, Dee Dee Ramone, Willie, Razzle, Marc Bolan and many more.
@@nothx962 You can take an awful amount of methadone with tolerance. LD differs so much with tolerance. I hadn't heard the acid theory. I'm not a psychedelic guy. Always liked Downes. Now I'm clean.
I grew up in NOLA, and I still live here. Easily could've been a hundred people that rolled him for dope or money or whatever. Everybody acts friendly around here but if you don't know who they are it's easy to get taken in. We had a friend a few years ago that came down from NYC to see us play and met a girl in a bar, took her for a walk, got robbed at gunpoint from her actual boyfriend and then beaten so badly he was in the hospital for weeks. Happens every day, not as much anymore in the quarter since you have to almost be wealthy to live in most places, but it has always happened and probably always will.
Watchimg someone killing themselves with drugs isnt cool
"Fuck Me Once It's My Fault"! "Fuck Me Twice,It's "NOT" Gonna Happen"!
Junkies,We "ALL" Have an 😇Angel on One Shoulder,and the 👿Devil on the Other'! "One Foot on the Ground,and One in the Grave"!👣"It takes a Lifetime to get Clean,but some will Die Inbetween"!⚰⚱ "No Freewill,or Choice,Just Fate and Destiny At Work"!🎸🎤💉💉💊💊😨😿
hey congrats on being cleaned up. i disagree with the "no free will" thing but whatever helps you as an individual is valuable. there's no easy way out. Whatever method works for you, GOOD JOB!! good luck and stuff, dude
Spot on.
I agree with poster above me. Spot on, great post. I've lived/am living it at 30 but am functioning and doing a heck of a lot better and using less than i was from 23 to 27. Still alot of work to do but its worth it. Cheers.
Anybody know what done Willie Deville is singing at 51:13
I also have this question
Sounds like Robert Wilkins - Prodigal Son
Hey Al? Or is it Mr. Jones? You said many months ago that you would upload the version of Born To Lose that starts off with Jayne County performing. Will you possibly do that soon? It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Hey Donnie. I replied to your last message which included a link to a blog where you can download a great copy of the version you seek. Did you see the message?
Alabaster Jones is it much different than this version? Could you post the link here too? I'll check it out
Alabaster Jones wow killer! So much Cramps stuff too, love it. Where are you out of?
@@donculig2525 Cheers Don, I'm glad you like it. I'm from the uk. Keep on rocking!!
@@alabasterjones7243 Thanks a lot, douchebag. I picked up a virus from your shitty fucking website. DO NOT FOLLOW THE LINK THIS IDIOT POSTED. I NOW HAVE TO SCRUB MY COMPUTER AFTER PICKING UP A VIRUS THERE.
Willie DeVille stole his shit and didn't want to cop to it. He shut up real quick when asked about it.
The one who said they were doing speedballs?
@@drowningin no, the opposite of that, willie was a great blues musician , he’s wearing sunglasses straw hat and is strung out
How can that be appealing you just get sick and tired of being sick and tired.
And have no way or clue how to stop.
It's the worst
Because you get high before ya get sick and tired ....vicious cycle
So basically Tommy Lee capitalized on the fact that he looked like Thunders lmao
Not like he practiced drums for years or anything refining his craft like an Olympic athlete
@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc lol I'm a tommy lee fan to an extent but I'm a huge thunders fan
@@leahflower9924 i don’t even like motly crue besides a couple early tracks but am a fan of Tommy lee he is an amazing drummer
"Cuz I'm an Outlaw Pop Punk"!
DRUGS WILL KILL! NOTHING GLAMOUROUS HERE. SAD
please hit the subs
The 2 Brothers O.D'd Johnny then robbed him of what little he had....happens all the time living that life.......Drugs are baaaaaaad okay!
little he had? he had thousands on him
1:07:56 song names
ARE YOU EVER GONNA POST THE ORIGINAL BORN TO LOSE MOVIE???
SO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN...JAYNE COUNTY IS AT THE BEGINNING & TOWARD THE END THEY TALK TO THE JAPANESE PROMOTER & HOW HE CAME UP WITH 'SOCIETY MAKES ME SAD', INSTEAD OF...'MAKES ME SCARED'. ITS THE BEST VERSION, IF YOU DONT HAVE IT DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT CAN BE GOTTEN???
here is a link to download it in avi format:
protopunkapothecary.blogspot.com/2017/01/johnny-thunders-last-great-rock-n-roll.html
Donnie Kellerman There are 8 edits that I know of from the filmmaker L.K. I've copies of them all
Be glad you've got access to the few up.here
It has his son too, right in jail?
What's the song at 46:58
I don't know but Dee Dee is the one who talks
So Alone by Johnny Thunders.
I'd love to know which one of them stole the money from Germany he was carrying
It was a terrible choice by the director to have the live song playing while Dee Dee was talking @ around the 48:00 mark. You can barely hear what he's talking about.
One of my favorite edits of the movie. You must be hard of hearing.
Who’s the guy who dies in the beginning? I can’t read it on the screen
"John Spacely" aka: "Gringo".
53:30 “reefer” he means heroin
Heartbreakers revisited...where was i??I had no idea...
Dis those two brothers say there girlfriend didn't want anything to do with johhny because of his English??
there was a pic of JT... haven't seen it in years... but he's standing in between two white dudes, one is wearing a wife beater, and has cornrows, JT looks green. and very thin. I have searched over and over and havent seen it since about 2000. He didn't look healthy at all towards the end.
renrav renraven I think your referring to the tattoo he got 2 days before he passed on? Or most likely it was in New Orleans. He also recorded a version of Born to Lose the day before his death. Someone knows something. Just pieces of human shit with no moral compass
@@joshjuanfifarek7382 sorry for my late reply!! no this picture was not at the jimmy wong studio. who knows where or it was taken. but it was close to the end
God…and I’m an atheist…
Gord Spacely got his facts wrong. Johnny's girl from Michigan was dropped off in Long Island for Vanda Lieb, the lez. You screwed up Gord.
Too much Spacely business.
This is not a good documentary.
1:27:04 "Put in the bag... And uhmm put in the bag" Body language and sound of a lier. Whole thing stinks... Too much junkie business!
How about fuck you
@106.23 who is this clown?
Junk rock 💉🎸🎷,,,,,💉💉🎸
Fuck yeah
Not a cheerful tale ...
This is a fuckin train wreck
A terrible zero-talented musician, most famous for his drug abuse. Great. Next.
yep.btw why u watching?
And inventing what would become the "glam" look.
Justin Case ur an idiot ur watching a thunders doc. he revolutionized glam and even tho he never considered himself a punk he spearheaded the punk movement and inspired many many bands to come. and then those bands would go on to inspire more, and start “movements” of their own. Example; the sex pistols (one of the most influential punk bands)even tho u can tell the sound apart the pistols were heavily inspired by the dolls more specifically him; then the pistols would go on to inspire bands like nirvana, which is also another very influential band
i may have a small penis but I may be an idiot, but JT was still a much bigger idiot than me.
I really don’t give a crap about if or how many other idiots he influenced. The guy couldn’t play, couldn’t sing, couldn’t write and was a drug addict and that eventually killed him. He was a complete loser. Whoever feels influenced by someone like him needs professional help.
Justin Case are you stupid or something? u have nothing rly to say other then he’s a drug addict and couldn’t play or anything, CUS HE WAS SMACKED OUT. it’s unfortunate but that’s how the punk scene was in the 70s everybody was high and most the bands were dogshit but it was about the lyrics and attitude