Pretty much... Casually speaking... Stay within range for max damage. Counter Guard. Always fully charge your PAs unless an attack is coming. Then spam your enhanced normal attack when needed. Also... Get your Custom PAs. Lv1 is good enough. For Rod Fire Ball + Range is disgusting. Wind + Range for Charged Version is okay. Light + Negate Attack is a godly. For Talis, hit scan CU PA is great. Multiweapon Rod and Talis to other weapons for better diverse options or cross over PA Effects.
Reminds me of when I transitioned from Force to Hunter. I fell in love with the Avenger mechanic, and went from avoiding damage and not caring about chasing weak points, to taking a lot more risks and having to figure out ways to time my attacks for when the enemy animation exposes the weak point. I sometimes miss how easily Force can keep hitting weak points almost regardless of what the enemy is doing.
3:30 the fillet mignon... Yummy! Glad to see this has been such a refreshing experience for you! Your last little bit there is exactly why I tell people to try out everything.
Glad you enjoy being Force! Did you notice that Photon Flare reduces casting time thanks to "Photon Flare Short Charge"? Some charged techniques takes longer time to cast/spam (eg: Gifoie, Grants & Gigrants), so you can take advantage of that ;)
Dear kero, at 9:58 ish, you can precast compound technique by using Z mode and aim at floor right in front of him. It is a useful technique for ranged classes including Fo and Ra. And yes, I agree, it is always a good idea to play a less stressful class once awhile. Even though it might be slightly lower dps, but it is much easier to play and not all contents need peak dps as well.
If you want to further mix things up for some variety, definitely try playing either Force or Techter on a talis. You can still used charged and uncharged techs, but the talis deployment gives you a third option that turns any tech into a rapid-fire elemental attack just by holding the button down, while one of the PA customs turns those attacks into a hitscan attack on your current target, avoiding any line-of-sight issues. I tend to swap main and sub-classes for Techter instead, since I prefer having Shifta/Deband to Photon Flare for the party buff, but I haven't done any research to really know the benefits of one over the other. I'm not _terribly_ concerned with DPS, since I just enjoy the gameplay (and I love weird multi-weapon and class combos), but there are definitely ways to optimize whatever setup you find you like the most, and just enjoy it.
Rejuvenating interest in the game by trying a new class is such a great tip. Not sure if it was mentioned but there's a small window of invulnerability when using Compound Techniques, one has to time it just right which makes it a skill-based aspect of the Force class. One can use Zandion to gap-close and Fomelgion to clear mobs of enemies.
SEGA needs to give Force a party buff ability, or rework the class, to make people want it in a high end content party. Its DPS is too low for what it brings to the table currently (except in specific content like PSE farming and Mining Rig).
I play enough to the point where when I get a really good high fixa drop of whatever the current best weapons are, I'll switch to the class that can use it. My most recent drop was a fixa 4 reyarr boots. Multied soaring blades and have been learning how to play bouncer. Keeps the "take what you can get" mentality of looters while also keeping it varied. Typically I play Fighter main, but Force and Gunner are my 2nd favorites easily.
12:06 Fo can only dash & normal attack to counter in time and 9:55 cast Barantsion(ice&light) in the right timing you'll take no damage by i-frame and doing dps
I have a character for every single class. A lot of people, I found, take one character and level up every class... that would have been more efficient in some ways, but I prefer having a bunch of different ones so I can have different appearances and identities. Plus it means I get to do the story 8-9 times which means I actually remember the cut scenes! Ha ha. I wouldn't if I just saw them once. Anyway, alternating between the classes so much definitely keeps it varied. Right now almost all of them are at 85, one 82 and one 78.
thank u for link too the guide, i can now perfect my skills before we depart from halpha, this is your true destiny kero, plus the magic looks very graphically pleasurable…📝
Yeah, Force is interesting to main class as at times, though I tend to use it as a sub-class simply for the PP recovery. I have four characters, and their main classes tend to be different. One, my current main, is currently maining Force, with the usual main of Bouncer as the sub. Another is a Ranger main, a third is a Waker main, and my first main character is a Braver main. All of the other three are using Force as a sub, for the PP recovery benefits, though I am likely to have my waker sub Hunter again for the defensive side of things due to how squishy a Waker consistently is. But yeah, the ground pound bit is worth it and gave force some consistent competitive burst dps, with the compound techniques being the main burst when timed right. Still, the class has come a long way since NGS launched.
I'm sure you've seen this in the guide, but just remember that Technique Domination, which adds extra damage for downed targets, only applies to Techniques themselves. It does not apply to Rod Attack Impact or Compound Techniques.
This game encourages people to play multiple classes, The devs designed it that way. It's pretty easy to level up multiple classes compared to other more traditional MMOs. Playing multiple classes and trying out the different weapons each class has adds lots of re-playablity to the game. If you've only stuck to playing 1 or 2 classes and feel bored with the game that's on you. Just saying.
I only play Hu/Br Sword and katana multi-weapon. Played consistently since launch and haven’t gotten bored. I’m from da early 00’s era of MMOs, where you made your own content. Even before Ver. 2, there were title rewards, races, cocoon/tower ranks, Gigantix and helpin’ new players, which made sure I never experienced burn out.
I 100% agree that the secret to truly enjoying NGS is practicing with a handful of classes at a time. That way each day you can gear up as a different loadout and add some variance. It makes the game so much more enjoyable, at least for me. When my friends start to hit a burnout I try to get them to pick up a class they haven’t played in a while if at all. Also… I play Force suboptimally or not min-max because I play a Force/Fighter Rod/Daggers multiweapon. Which started because I do not enjoy the Rod’s weapon action. Previously I struggled to get solid potency, but with the augs being all potency currently it makes it even easier. My DPS is not as high as the Slayers and Bravers, but I give them 2-3 down states to punish per boss enemy.
I'm glad you said that pso2 ngs feels like a brand new game that's how I felt when I sat down and start playing with a force Side note: compounds techniques have a faster charge by doing two things 1. Matching the elemental weakness 2. using a technique that hits more than one enemy. Megid and Zan are good for these. Zonde doesn't have the same properties anymore sense zonde use to be a projectile that had the same properties as megid (just faster and uses a electric hadoken that hits more than one enemy) except back then megid had a chance to incapacitate enemies as well as players (Long story) It's also good that you looked toward a guide just don't look at to many for i got tripped up especially when the game changes buffs and nerfs and properties on how moves work I laughed because the hard to master thing you said is true there is combos I practiced to match up with both classes But I'm debating with myself because......well it's a lot to explain in this comment take care glad that you're growing with he experience that comes with it Had to come back to say this last part Maximize dmg you could charge and right before you cast you could press dodge and let go of the button in the middle of the dash it hold the charge for you without having to hold and wait to get a good hit you could just Charge technic + dodge = automatic hold charge till you cast again
Verchmael with termia fixa 5 will increase your DPS through the roof and use pp reduction fixa on all three armor you will be able to always have enough pp for attacks combined with hp for pp skill, with lc capsule equipped I'm capable of hitting 30k plus damage on my strongest hours
I'm pretty much an all rounder I play and have mastered pretty much all classes and weapons but it keeps me playing also which I recommend to ppl on ngs occasionally to try a different class to take a break every once in a while ..me imo I cant imagine maining one class the whole time which is why I play all classes but at the same time I do understand some ppl don't wanna lose what they've learned using their main class
I was Force main a long time ago, but never got around learning the small tricks to master the class. Personally i despise the compound techs for one reason only. Their cooldown. While farming in any high combat zones i literally have to wait for them to come off cooldown (all three) even with only using 1 skill point.
I'd be interested in videos on the different classes. I've tried looking for class guides before, but there really don't seem to be that many videos, and the ones that do exist all seem to just go over the skill tree which isn't really a guide on how to play properly. Feels like there's no good content in this area.
What you really need to know about Fo is to not click on that class on the class selection menu and click anything else instead. It's had it's heyday somewhat during retem purps era when you could actually cause ele downs and time them but since it has been a wasted slot for anything else than PSE farming (and captans but thats ded too) Maybe some day sega will start playing their own game and learn how to design a mage/nuker class but for now this ain't it.
I've actually been learning other classes over time, and I now know more about Force. Tricky stuff, but it's definitely one of the easier classes to learn. I also learned Gunner, and while it is complex, it's not convoluted. Once you know how Gunner works, it's easy to work with it. It's a little weird, being a range damage class that wants you to get right up into an enemy's face, but that's how it works. It's weapon action counters damage very well, sends damage back and will recharge the boost gauge which is your bread and butter. As for what the gauge does, it's simple, each number on the chain represents 1%, and what the number is when you do a second charged PA will add that boost of a percentage to your stats over-all. Given the max is 150, you get an increase to speed, dps and defense of up to 150%, that's nuts! Anyone who's seen me when I'm playing Gunner will tell you that I'm literally flying all over the field during a PSE burst and looking like a blur. No joke, I move that fast when I play Gunner and fully charge the chain boost. Another thing you want to do while battling a boss is to hold down a PA button, weapon action press, and you'll get more damage out and spread the damage than you would when holding the regular damage button. I still use regular PAs when I need to burst damage though, but that was a bit of a surprise when I was messing around with Gunner recently. Regardless, once you've got it down, you'll be doing DPS levels that rival those of Slayer. Actually, I was able to duo fight Giga Vardias as a Gunner without dying once, something I could only do before as a Waker. I couldn't even manage that as a Slayer. Now I imagine that the fight won't be as hard given what we can do now, but I do look forward to getting to see what I can do against a Gigantix that is similar to Giga Vardias in the future.
In terms of min maxing. Natural PP Regen is the only Stat which may cripple your DPS. But Natural PP Regen isn't a main issue for Mobbing and Bossing with Sub Slayer. Techture Sub is great for Compound Techs and Photon Flare is great for DPS with Techniques. That said... Slayer Main / Force Sub on a non 100% Crit Weapon (for current meta weapons) is great. Or Force/Slayer. Force/Fighter is good Vs Elemental Downed Targets but Slayer Sub out performs Fighter Sub in general use because of Crit Rate. Force/Waker is good for Team Healing. Akin to Techture/Waker. Oddly enough, Hunter/Force and Bouncer/Force are good for different reasons. One for Tanking and another for Elemental Downs/better Tech Casting. Ranger/Force is an interesting idea. However, Braver or Gunner / Force when using Rod/Talis, don't really energize. Although, Braver is a solid stand alone class while Gunner needs help in DPS. It's Chain Damage isn't up to par by comparison to Ranger. And as a Sub Gunner, it's horrible as you lose 3/4th of the Class Skills. Note: Most of these Main/Sub utilize Multiweapons in order to fully synergize. As Multiweapons do not negate the effects/damage of it's multiweapon material. Thus... Ranger/Force... Can Rifle + Rod for Blight (Team Support) then spam Elemental Tech for the Down Factor. As well as Ranger Rifle being godly right now and it aids in the Rod's lack of diverse PAs. Plus, you get an actual Counter Guard that's extremely forgiveable. On top of infinite PP Eradication.
Just wondering if you took the Grants tech arts that makes u immune and auto counters for you? Everytime u cast Grants when you are about to recieve damage, it will fire out the photon bullets and you dont need to waste time weapon actioning. During blue laser and red laser phase the photon bullets add up to a decent amount of damage. Give it a shot.
I'm glad to see you enjoying the force. As a force veteran, I absolutely love the class. It has been severely underestimated by people who don't use it. The only problem is exactly what you pointed out: the low DPS. The force is underpowered, and it's something Sega really needs to address. I hate that I have to choose between playing a class I love and dealing high DPS.
Switched classes about 2 weeks ago. Went from Ranger/Gunner to Bouncer/Braver. Playing using Bouncer but have Braver for the Bounceback ability because i'm getting hit a lot X3
Force has been fun personally. Though Kero, you should try out the Talis side of Force. If you think elemental downing with the rod is quick, you should customize the talis skills and try that out. Also handy tip if you ever think you need PP (don't think you need it considering the impact rotation) if you multi the talis and rod together, pop the Talis weapon action, it adds a small amount of damage but each hit is a PP gain. It is certainly handy. Also you should do a techter video later too. I find some of the techter skills really fun, though the attack and defense buff micromanaging is a bit annoying to have to keep doing (would be nice if they just made it a passive for being in a party and for those nearby)
Just like you I never knew Force was this fun. I’ve always had it as my Sub class. Been playing Force for main class for a couple of days now. And yes, it’s kinda difficult to master but I’m still trying.
question; what outfit is that? I've been looking for a good shrine maiden set for my character but I can't find anything good on the wiki, and the one Keroppi's using is unfamiliar to me
Outfit's name is "Worldly Maiden". This blue variant for T2 (Female) was only released in Base PSO2. In NGS you can only get a Gray Variant for T2! Keep in mind they are considered "outfits" so you can't re-color them.
@@keroppi ugh, that's really unfortunate....luckily I did find something similar, N-Divine Priest, which seems to work for both Type 1 and Type 2 models despite being considered a Type 1 setwear
@keroppi you can use grants customization 2 to negate ai attacks while still attacking and building your compound gauge, and your impact gauge all at the same time. P.S. i would also very much recommend that you put grants customization pa over your counter weapon action so that whenever you accidentally hit weapon action you'll use grants instead and keep building gauge.🤔🤨🧐
I started force and its fun but I do as much damage with my braver with the free gear I feel like. I want to learn another melee class thinking about fighter or slayer.
I'm at the point now where DPS isn't everything to me. This isn't to say not to play the job that you're using to the highest level or keep yoir gear updated but if you enjoy what you play and can clear content, then who cares if you're not constantly getting crazy DPS numbers. My mains are Fi/Bo with Double saber/Soaring Blade multiweapon and Hu/Sl with Partisan/Sword and I really enjoy playing them. Multiweapons really make things feel fresh as well especially when figuring out which ones synergize with eachother. And the support that the classes provide in my opinion make them even more valuable than just damage output.
I don't get the appeal of using a mobbing class for bosses, but if you find it fun - awesome. P.S. If you want to un-learn using Weapon Action and default to side-stepping, you could try Ranger, the rifle weapon action a.k.a. "the slippy slide of imminent death" is borderline useless (trash/jank) and arguably the worst in the game (after Talis) and will get you killed in the blink of an eye, cause it has zero i-frames.
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me when force and spam 3 buttons
Pretty much... Casually speaking... Stay within range for max damage. Counter Guard. Always fully charge your PAs unless an attack is coming. Then spam your enhanced normal attack when needed.
Also... Get your Custom PAs. Lv1 is good enough.
For Rod
Fire Ball + Range is disgusting.
Wind + Range for Charged Version is okay.
Light + Negate Attack is a godly.
For Talis, hit scan CU PA is great.
Multiweapon Rod and Talis to other weapons for better diverse options or cross over PA Effects.
Playing multiple classes helps keep me playing. I play every weapon except partizan.
Reminds me of when I transitioned from Force to Hunter. I fell in love with the Avenger mechanic, and went from avoiding damage and not caring about chasing weak points, to taking a lot more risks and having to figure out ways to time my attacks for when the enemy animation exposes the weak point. I sometimes miss how easily Force can keep hitting weak points almost regardless of what the enemy is doing.
Never thought he'd play another class besides his beloved Braver
3:30 the fillet mignon... Yummy! Glad to see this has been such a refreshing experience for you! Your last little bit there is exactly why I tell people to try out everything.
May the Force be with you kero 😁
Glad you enjoy being Force! Did you notice that Photon Flare reduces casting time thanks to "Photon Flare Short Charge"? Some charged techniques takes longer time to cast/spam (eg: Gifoie, Grants & Gigrants), so you can take advantage of that ;)
playing force / techter makes me feel like a final fantasy character
Really tapping into the JRPG roots of PSO, lol.
Dear kero, at 9:58 ish, you can precast compound technique by using Z mode and aim at floor right in front of him. It is a useful technique for ranged classes including Fo and Ra.
And yes, I agree, it is always a good idea to play a less stressful class once awhile. Even though it might be slightly lower dps, but it is much easier to play and not all contents need peak dps as well.
If you want to further mix things up for some variety, definitely try playing either Force or Techter on a talis. You can still used charged and uncharged techs, but the talis deployment gives you a third option that turns any tech into a rapid-fire elemental attack just by holding the button down, while one of the PA customs turns those attacks into a hitscan attack on your current target, avoiding any line-of-sight issues.
I tend to swap main and sub-classes for Techter instead, since I prefer having Shifta/Deband to Photon Flare for the party buff, but I haven't done any research to really know the benefits of one over the other.
I'm not _terribly_ concerned with DPS, since I just enjoy the gameplay (and I love weird multi-weapon and class combos), but there are definitely ways to optimize whatever setup you find you like the most, and just enjoy it.
Rejuvenating interest in the game by trying a new class is such a great tip.
Not sure if it was mentioned but there's a small window of invulnerability when using Compound Techniques, one has to time it just right which makes it a skill-based aspect of the Force class. One can use Zandion to gap-close and Fomelgion to clear mobs of enemies.
im glad the force guide helped you :3 iv been playing force since NGS release and have grown since
I am considering coming back to the game and playing Force again is the main draw, love this video!
SEGA needs to give Force a party buff ability, or rework the class, to make people want it in a high end content party. Its DPS is too low for what it brings to the table currently (except in specific content like PSE farming and Mining Rig).
I play enough to the point where when I get a really good high fixa drop of whatever the current best weapons are, I'll switch to the class that can use it. My most recent drop was a fixa 4 reyarr boots. Multied soaring blades and have been learning how to play bouncer. Keeps the "take what you can get" mentality of looters while also keeping it varied. Typically I play Fighter main, but Force and Gunner are my 2nd favorites easily.
12:06 Fo can only dash & normal attack to counter in time and 9:55 cast Barantsion(ice&light) in the right timing you'll take no damage by i-frame and doing dps
I have a character for every single class. A lot of people, I found, take one character and level up every class... that would have been more efficient in some ways, but I prefer having a bunch of different ones so I can have different appearances and identities. Plus it means I get to do the story 8-9 times which means I actually remember the cut scenes! Ha ha. I wouldn't if I just saw them once. Anyway, alternating between the classes so much definitely keeps it varied. Right now almost all of them are at 85, one 82 and one 78.
Keroppi finally tries out a new class and gets really excited about it XD
thank u for link too the guide, i can now perfect my skills before we depart from halpha, this is your true destiny kero, plus the magic looks very graphically pleasurable…📝
Chad force enjoyer 🎉
SO hidden in the comments when it's your own guide xD
@@shonyuwisp4920I am the change I want to see in the world and that is STEALTH STRIKE FOR FORCE, THANK YOU
Yus! Very noice to see kero bro as magician/wizard hehehe. Great force gameplay too. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah, Force is interesting to main class as at times, though I tend to use it as a sub-class simply for the PP recovery. I have four characters, and their main classes tend to be different. One, my current main, is currently maining Force, with the usual main of Bouncer as the sub. Another is a Ranger main, a third is a Waker main, and my first main character is a Braver main. All of the other three are using Force as a sub, for the PP recovery benefits, though I am likely to have my waker sub Hunter again for the defensive side of things due to how squishy a Waker consistently is.
But yeah, the ground pound bit is worth it and gave force some consistent competitive burst dps, with the compound techniques being the main burst when timed right. Still, the class has come a long way since NGS launched.
I'm sure you've seen this in the guide, but just remember that Technique Domination, which adds extra damage for downed targets, only applies to Techniques themselves. It does not apply to Rod Attack Impact or Compound Techniques.
good to see big trees divine boi turns into cybernetics dragon. the attack pattern still same. respect
This game encourages people to play multiple classes, The devs designed it that way. It's pretty easy to level up multiple classes compared to other more traditional MMOs. Playing multiple classes and trying out the different weapons each class has adds lots of re-playablity to the game. If you've only stuck to playing 1 or 2 classes and feel bored with the game that's on you. Just saying.
I only play Hu/Br Sword and katana multi-weapon. Played consistently since launch and haven’t gotten bored.
I’m from da early 00’s era of MMOs, where you made your own content. Even before Ver. 2, there were title rewards, races, cocoon/tower ranks, Gigantix and helpin’ new players, which made sure I never experienced burn out.
Sidestep normal counter some attacks instead of parry because you can attack almost immediately, where parry has more recovery before you can attack.
I 100% agree that the secret to truly enjoying NGS is practicing with a handful of classes at a time. That way each day you can gear up as a different loadout and add some variance. It makes the game so much more enjoyable, at least for me. When my friends start to hit a burnout I try to get them to pick up a class they haven’t played in a while if at all.
Also… I play Force suboptimally or not min-max because I play a Force/Fighter Rod/Daggers multiweapon. Which started because I do not enjoy the Rod’s weapon action. Previously I struggled to get solid potency, but with the augs being all potency currently it makes it even easier. My DPS is not as high as the Slayers and Bravers, but I give them 2-3 down states to punish per boss enemy.
I'm glad you said that pso2 ngs feels like a brand new game that's how I felt when I sat down and start playing with a force
Side note: compounds techniques have a faster charge by doing two things
1. Matching the elemental weakness
2. using a technique that hits more than one enemy.
Megid and Zan are good for these.
Zonde doesn't have the same properties anymore sense zonde use to be a projectile that had the same properties as megid (just faster and uses a electric hadoken that hits more than one enemy) except back then megid had a chance to incapacitate enemies as well as players
(Long story)
It's also good that you looked toward a guide just don't look at to many for i got tripped up especially when the game changes buffs and nerfs and properties on how moves work
I laughed because the hard to master thing you said is true there is combos I practiced to match up with both classes
But I'm debating with myself because......well it's a lot to explain in this comment take care glad that you're growing with he experience that comes with it
Had to come back to say this last part
Maximize dmg you could charge and right before you cast you could press dodge and let go of the button in the middle of the dash it hold the charge for you
without having to hold and wait to get a good hit you could just
Charge technic + dodge = automatic hold charge till you cast again
Ship 1 stand up
Is good to see you like the force class
Force was my first love ❤
glad you have a renewed interest in the game
I wonder if the game will last long enough till we get special advanced class like 'Hero' from pso2
Verchmael with termia fixa 5 will increase your DPS through the roof and use pp reduction fixa on all three armor you will be able to always have enough pp for attacks combined with hp for pp skill, with lc capsule equipped I'm capable of hitting 30k plus damage on my strongest hours
Time to learn grants parry for MDFA. :p
I FUCKING LOVE MY COMPOUND TECHNIQUES AAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
god i would love to gear the force again but god does regearing sound like a ball slapper with how expensive it is.
I'm pretty much an all rounder I play and have mastered pretty much all classes and weapons but it keeps me playing also which I recommend to ppl on ngs occasionally to try a different class to take a break every once in a while ..me imo I cant imagine maining one class the whole time which is why I play all classes but at the same time I do understand some ppl don't wanna lose what they've learned using their main class
Also knowing all classes helps with being flexible to changing classes to a different look
I was Force main a long time ago, but never got around learning the small tricks to master the class. Personally i despise the compound techs for one reason only. Their cooldown. While farming in any high combat zones i literally have to wait for them to come off cooldown (all three) even with only using 1 skill point.
I'd be interested in videos on the different classes. I've tried looking for class guides before, but there really don't seem to be that many videos, and the ones that do exist all seem to just go over the skill tree which isn't really a guide on how to play properly. Feels like there's no good content in this area.
What you really need to know about Fo is to not click on that class on the class selection menu and click anything else instead.
It's had it's heyday somewhat during retem purps era when you could actually cause ele downs and time them but since it has been a wasted slot for anything else than PSE farming (and captans but thats ded too)
Maybe some day sega will start playing their own game and learn how to design a mage/nuker class but for now this ain't it.
I've actually been learning other classes over time, and I now know more about Force. Tricky stuff, but it's definitely one of the easier classes to learn. I also learned Gunner, and while it is complex, it's not convoluted. Once you know how Gunner works, it's easy to work with it. It's a little weird, being a range damage class that wants you to get right up into an enemy's face, but that's how it works. It's weapon action counters damage very well, sends damage back and will recharge the boost gauge which is your bread and butter. As for what the gauge does, it's simple, each number on the chain represents 1%, and what the number is when you do a second charged PA will add that boost of a percentage to your stats over-all. Given the max is 150, you get an increase to speed, dps and defense of up to 150%, that's nuts! Anyone who's seen me when I'm playing Gunner will tell you that I'm literally flying all over the field during a PSE burst and looking like a blur. No joke, I move that fast when I play Gunner and fully charge the chain boost. Another thing you want to do while battling a boss is to hold down a PA button, weapon action press, and you'll get more damage out and spread the damage than you would when holding the regular damage button. I still use regular PAs when I need to burst damage though, but that was a bit of a surprise when I was messing around with Gunner recently. Regardless, once you've got it down, you'll be doing DPS levels that rival those of Slayer. Actually, I was able to duo fight Giga Vardias as a Gunner without dying once, something I could only do before as a Waker. I couldn't even manage that as a Slayer. Now I imagine that the fight won't be as hard given what we can do now, but I do look forward to getting to see what I can do against a Gigantix that is similar to Giga Vardias in the future.
In terms of min maxing. Natural PP Regen is the only Stat which may cripple your DPS. But Natural PP Regen isn't a main issue for Mobbing and Bossing with Sub Slayer.
Techture Sub is great for Compound Techs and Photon Flare is great for DPS with Techniques.
That said... Slayer Main / Force Sub on a non 100% Crit Weapon (for current meta weapons) is great. Or Force/Slayer.
Force/Fighter is good Vs Elemental Downed Targets but Slayer Sub out performs Fighter Sub in general use because of Crit Rate.
Force/Waker is good for Team Healing. Akin to Techture/Waker.
Oddly enough, Hunter/Force and Bouncer/Force are good for different reasons. One for Tanking and another for Elemental Downs/better Tech Casting.
Ranger/Force is an interesting idea.
However, Braver or Gunner / Force when using Rod/Talis, don't really energize. Although, Braver is a solid stand alone class while Gunner needs help in DPS. It's Chain Damage isn't up to par by comparison to Ranger. And as a Sub Gunner, it's horrible as you lose 3/4th of the Class Skills.
Note: Most of these Main/Sub utilize Multiweapons in order to fully synergize. As Multiweapons do not negate the effects/damage of it's multiweapon material.
Thus... Ranger/Force... Can Rifle + Rod for Blight (Team Support) then spam Elemental Tech for the Down Factor. As well as Ranger Rifle being godly right now and it aids in the Rod's lack of diverse PAs. Plus, you get an actual Counter Guard that's extremely forgiveable. On top of infinite PP Eradication.
Lol pronouncing c.techniques like fine wine.. wonder why! 😉 I approve! 🤣
Grants type 2 is a counter like the WA if you time it right with the advantage that is does good damage unlike WA.
If you dodge and then attack instead of WA.. it will hit the boss or target way faster instead of the bullet counter.
Finally kero learn to fly....now, play te as tech support
Wait till he starts playing.....waker...lolololol
Using a reyaar rod my dps shot up to 10k in the crimson realm against a boss
i would love to see you try slayer next :3
Just wondering if you took the Grants tech arts that makes u immune and auto counters for you? Everytime u cast Grants when you are about to recieve damage, it will fire out the photon bullets and you dont need to waste time weapon actioning. During blue laser and red laser phase the photon bullets add up to a decent amount of damage. Give it a shot.
I'm glad to see you enjoying the force. As a force veteran, I absolutely love the class. It has been severely underestimated by people who don't use it. The only problem is exactly what you pointed out: the low DPS. The force is underpowered, and it's something Sega really needs to address. I hate that I have to choose between playing a class I love and dealing high DPS.
Present!!! 🐼🥰🐼🥰🐼
I hope u can play wand techter too someday kero its my favorite with melee and magic attack together with big damages 🐼🥰🐼🥰🐼
Switched classes about 2 weeks ago.
Went from Ranger/Gunner to Bouncer/Braver.
Playing using Bouncer but have Braver for the Bounceback ability because i'm getting hit a lot X3
Force has been fun personally. Though Kero, you should try out the Talis side of Force. If you think elemental downing with the rod is quick, you should customize the talis skills and try that out. Also handy tip if you ever think you need PP (don't think you need it considering the impact rotation) if you multi the talis and rod together, pop the Talis weapon action, it adds a small amount of damage but each hit is a PP gain. It is certainly handy. Also you should do a techter video later too. I find some of the techter skills really fun, though the attack and defense buff micromanaging is a bit annoying to have to keep doing (would be nice if they just made it a passive for being in a party and for those nearby)
calls it ground pounding 7u7
Try Gunner and ull never get bored of the playstyle :3 Gunner = Love
Just like you I never knew Force was this fun. I’ve always had it as my Sub class. Been playing Force for main class for a couple of days now. And yes, it’s kinda difficult to master but I’m still trying.
Is there a guide like this for other classes? and if so how can I find them? ( I main waker)
aaaay~! glad to see you enjoy playing force. hope to see you combining the two playstyles together XD that'd be super cool
Me as ranger only using like 1 because money farming 😂
I'm already master force I need to get used to fighter on my Manon character build on ship 3
question; what outfit is that? I've been looking for a good shrine maiden set for my character but I can't find anything good on the wiki, and the one Keroppi's using is unfamiliar to me
Outfit's name is "Worldly Maiden". This blue variant for T2 (Female) was only released in Base PSO2. In NGS you can only get a Gray Variant for T2! Keep in mind they are considered "outfits" so you can't re-color them.
@@keroppi ugh, that's really unfortunate....luckily I did find something similar, N-Divine Priest, which seems to work for both Type 1 and Type 2 models despite being considered a Type 1 setwear
Very so and very true.
I appreciate all the help honestly after facing so much cringe and struggle.
@keroppi you can use grants customization 2 to negate ai attacks while still attacking and building your compound gauge, and your impact gauge all at the same time.
P.S. i would also very much recommend that you put grants customization pa over your counter weapon action so that whenever you accidentally hit weapon action you'll use grants instead and keep building gauge.🤔🤨🧐
I do miss playing, but thia game was really bad for my wallet. Plus the clan I was in was ridiculously stingy.
me when i lie
So Fo/Bo no longer a thing?
I started force and its fun but I do as much damage with my braver with the free gear I feel like. I want to learn another melee class thinking about fighter or slayer.
I'm at the point now where DPS isn't everything to me. This isn't to say not to play the job that you're using to the highest level or keep yoir gear updated but if you enjoy what you play and can clear content, then who cares if you're not constantly getting crazy DPS numbers.
My mains are Fi/Bo with Double saber/Soaring Blade multiweapon and Hu/Sl with Partisan/Sword and I really enjoy playing them. Multiweapons really make things feel fresh as well especially when figuring out which ones synergize with eachother. And the support that the classes provide in my opinion make them even more valuable than just damage output.
OwO
still force weakest class against dfa2.
I don't get the appeal of using a mobbing class for bosses, but if you find it fun - awesome.
P.S. If you want to un-learn using Weapon Action and default to side-stepping, you could try Ranger, the rifle weapon action a.k.a. "the slippy slide of imminent death" is borderline useless (trash/jank) and arguably the worst in the game (after Talis) and will get you killed in the blink of an eye, cause it has zero i-frames.
Its quite useful now, makes you able to spam mine fields and a lot of I-frames
Rifle wa has I frames
Rifle weapon action for i-frames lands you instant grenade recharge for very good damage, pretty much one of the most useful skills in the game
I have it switched. Tech/Force So i can use the buffs.