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A Critique of The Order 1886… in 2024
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- When The Order 1886 came out in 2015 from Ready at Dawn it was not received that well. But it looked so amazing, had an amazing concept and just looked like a game Naughty Dog would have made. So I had to see for myself - Was The Order 1886 actually that bad?
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Sad news that developer Ready at Dawn has been recently shut down :(
When playing this game I actually kinda liked the whole cover system. It was more realistic cause when you are in cover you can’t see your enemies but when you pop your head up you can obviously. But I understand cause it’s still a game 😂
I can see your point
@@DrPooplove I can't since I'm in cover
@@saviorbob 😂
I've heard the picture was cropped to improve the game's performance. All in all, a really fun game. It's a crying shame we'll never get a sequel.
@@andrewsorenson6750 interesting wonder why that would help it’s performance?
Less resolution, less to render. Same with a smaller FOV on consoles, if they give you a slider the perf tanks
@@DrPooploveI hope this question was to spur engagement, because there is no way you didn't know this.
Cropping most of the screen was a popular trick in the 80’s and 90’s with giant UIs surrounding the action.
It makes sense that you can’t see around cover considering that’s how taking cover would work in real life.
Yeah, but peaking works, and not having a mirror mechanic felt like a wasted opportunity. This is what people mean when we say wasted potential. This game legit felt like Metro Last Light at home.
Ahh man i always get Sad thinking about The Game and what could have been.
The World they set up is Super interesting and i really wanted to know how they would have continued the Story.
Sadly the Devs did not get a chance to expand their ideas in a Sequel.
Yeah a sequel could have turned this thing into an amazing franchise
@@DrPooplove Yeah Uncharted 1 also had a lot of flaws and look at Naughty Dog now.
One of the greatest AAA Studios there is.
I have that feeling about days gone
@@TaigathemossAlso great wasted potential.
Days Gone Sequels could have been the Ultimate Zombie Games.
Honestly, I think a lot of people, especially in the gaming industry, just kinda seem to want to make movies or TV-shows more than games?
I dunno, like I am pretty sure if Naughty Dog would get the funding to just make a trilogy movie series that was completely computer animated, they probably would.
Order 1886 is one of those games. It's like only 3 guys at the company wanted to make an actual game, the rest just cutscenes.
Yeah I do see that with Naughty Dog treating the show like it means they have reached some new heights but gaming is a bigger industry
Same idea with comics. They aren't really fans and just want to use the medium as a launching off point so they don't have to grind their teeth getting through actual films.
I completed a full playthrough earlier this year and all I can say is I want more of this universe, even if it's not a sequel game
Same!
Playing this game felt like playing a movie with qte's in some areas
Ima be honest the only thing I didn’t like about it was how short it was I really wish we could get a sequel
I'm actually sad that they've never made a proper sequel to it. It was indeed a tech demo and a proof of concept that never got the sequel that it deserved.
12:00 Of course not being able to see anything while in cover to pre- aim is realistic, but this is a third- person cover shooter and not a hardcore realistic FPS :)
That said, all the FOV- and zooming/ framing problems come from hardware limitations, showing one pixel more would probably melt a PS4 :)
Some historical corrections: "Marquis deLafayette" isn't a name, it's a nobleman title, his name is Gilbert du Motier, which is also the name of the real, historical figure. The "knight names" are all the names of the knights of the round table, which is the origin of the in-game's Order.
Edit: Blimps, zeppelin's and other rigid (and non-rigid airships) don't plumet to the ground, they slowly descend as the gasses scape and burn (watch the Hindenburg accident of 1937 footage on YT), but they should've shown it so it wouldn't be confusing to viewers. I wrote an article about "A brief history of Airships" for a college assigment once so I did research on the topic.
Aye man I loved watching the HELLDIVERS stuff, This is great. I work a lot and having these long form videos from you I can listen to while working is awesome. Keep it up! I’ll eat these up!
Sorry Doc but I'm gonna have to cut this one at a minute to avoid spoiling it. This looks awesome. Gonna download it ASAP and just hit the thumbs up for the algo!
I kinda like the whole zoomed in camera behind cover. Makes sense if you’re behind cover in an fps you can’t see, but this game allows for you to see what would happen if you could barely peek your head out of cover which you can’t do in an fps
A very reasonable and objective review. Really glad I clicked this, despite its length. Glad I never played the game though. All of these AAA tropes annoy me, and there’s not enough cool stuff to make me overlook it
It’s always so sad because it had a fun story and world
I played the game a few years back, like in 2019 or something when I didn't have anything else and honestly, it's a great game with a good story that's just a bit difficult to get into at the start. It does feel a bit like they wanted to make a full length story centered game but didn't have the budget. Loved it and it's a setting and world I would love to see revisited.
Yeah it’s a shame that the game length kind of ended this game’s chances. Def deserves some respect for what it was
These tech demo games for the PS4 like the Order and Killzone Shadowfall look amazing fidelity wise still. This looks like a game from 2024.
One of those weird short cinematic games, being that its a PS4 exclusive I thought it was just a techdemo to show the visuals ( almost like Hellblade2).
That said for 2015 look great, they squeezed everthing out of the PS4 barely running 30FPS in 1080p. TLOU Part2 also drove the PS4 to its limits, thats why it got a 4k 60FPS PS5 Upgrade.
Graphics are nice but without good gameplay it aint much. Too many cinematics without interaction, many interactions are just QTE´s.
The age setting and style kinda reminded me of Dishonored which of course are much better games and also on PC :)
Wow, really well made video. I can't imagine how much time you put into it.
I was one of those people like you who wanted to play it and was excited but foolishly listened to rumor and never played. Thanks for showing me what I missed out on!
Thank you! Yes a lot of work but it was fun!
I tend to enjoy gameplay with my games.
every time we get a cool concept for an action rpg it comes out as a one off too short narrative action game
1886 the year the walking simulator was born!
Who knew they were so old! 😄
It was just too short it felt like a demo of a really good game
Someone said we already have a PC port for Order 1886 by playing it on CZcams
the amount of times u said 1866. i never got it mixed up before, now i do lmao
lady ingrane, did u even play the game?
Worst part was how short it was
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Dude you forgot the dead eye mechanic and you didn’t pick up the fire shotgun. I’m gonna need your gamer card immediately 😂
I always really enjoyed this game. Now I bought it when it was on sale, I think around $25. But I think because I looked past the price, it was absolutely worth playing.
The story and world was really cool and it’s a bummer that it will never be realized.
If only
Totally forgot about this game, it wasn’t bad just underwhelming and pretty short. The setting and tone were really cool and unique though. It had that alternative steampunk history thing going on.
Yeah there really isn’t much like it these days
I loved it more than most at the time because it hit all of my personal niches. Monster hunters, historical stuff, sci fantasy. I didn’t even mind about the limited gameplay, I just felt like a team got together and made a game just for me and I was grateful for it
This same story but as campaign in hunt showdown would go so hard
This game is the ground zero for the “cinematic game” where cutscenes are visuals are prioritised over gameplay depth and mechanics and I’ll always hate it for that
It felt like it was also a demo of what games like this can be on that generation of consoles
@@liquidsweg4858pretty much. Testing the graphical capabilities of the next gen PS4, same thing with Ryse: Son of Rome on the Xbox One. Very short but beautiful, and that’s about it.
I absolutely love this game. I really genuinely love the story and really want to see more.
It’s not a cover shooter and lacks the monsters but for a similar setting, vibe, and story based gameplay Assassin’s Creed Syndicate is in the ballpark. It even lets you use the cool gadgets you find!
Have me a mate, says he saw a vampire, I says to him, why that's just a Londoner
Very few times in my life have I seen a game so deeply uninterested in being a game which, despite the graphics and style, is not going to keep an audience in your good graces. This story would have been better served in a different medium.
4:25 I didn’t know that
Daxter was one of my favorite psp games
And okami is still my favorite game
This game had an amazing premise but a rough execution.
I got this game for free a few years ago. And by the end I still felt like I paid to much for it.
It looks good I will not lie or take that away from it but it's repetitive with no hook the boss fights are embarrassing and the story really has no payoff that feels like it matters. And to add all the cut scenes this was one of the few game I have played that was a labor to get through.
small rant- Why have the ability to examine pictures and turn them around if your not going to incorporate that into the story telling or the mystery?
A game with so much wasted potential. Lets just not pretend this is some kind of "underrated masterpiece" ok guys? Keep it real.
This game was unbelievable, anyone that thinks otherwise just doesn’t play games in this category.
it’s a shame that all these COD and streamer games have taken over the industry
Man I just finished it. It's asthetic is amazing. The pacing is a little slow, but you're playing a movie. The cover system gunplay is actually pretty good it reminded me of gears of war. I wasn't a huge fan of the quick time events but see why it was like that. You can Def tell there was suppose to be a sequel. I liked it, but I paid $10, I don't think it's a $60 game, visually yes, as a package ehhhhh nah probably $30-40 I think. I would have liked to have had an inventory system with tesla being the vendor/gunsmith.
I'm not complaining, when I bought the game, it was on sale for only 8 bucks. Sure it only took like 7 hours to beat, and that was with me looking around and taking it slow. But the gameplay is great, and the story was well written and interesting. I wish they would have made a sequel and expanded it a little bit. Kind of like what was done with A Plague Tale Requiem.
I liked the game back in the day. The graphics were next level, the story was ok but the world building was excellent. The game still holds up today. Never got the hate.
Yeah sometimes seems like if a game is short that’s all it will take for it to be hated
Despite all its flaws, I’ve never regretted purchasing this at launch because I love its visuals, setting, and audio design. I wish Sony would take the plunge and green light a sequel, prequel, or reboot of this game.
A sequel would be soo cool
I liked the game a lot
it helped that I bought it on a deep discount and played it on a ps4 pro so I guess I got the best visuals, no lag and a good price
I think the game got the press it got because it was a graphical powerhouse on ps4 so it lagged, it was short so people felt it paid too much and also they had other expectations for it
I went knowing people thought it was short and with that in mind I enjoyed it tremendously.
Shorter games can be great probably they should have priced it better
@@DrPooplove yeah some of my fave games of these past couple of years are games I can finish in a couple of afternoons, the outter wilds, papers, please, the pathless, among other long ones of course. Also a couple of long games I was enjoying up to some part of it where it felt too repetitive and finishing them was a chore because I was engaged already but didn't enjoy that much.
23:46 is black water limited use?
I played this game for the first time a few years ago, and I love it
To this day the game still looks stunning! Gameplay is weighty and fun but the biggest negative imo is the cutscene/dialogue to gameplay ratio. Too much walking and talking + looong unskippable cutscenes. It’s a shame we didn’t get a ps5 upgrade that removed the big borders and boosted performance
Dawg the dc/ac converter and electric motor were the shizknight for real.
When mentioning SONY SM you should have shown the Kratos bike posters in the underground. 'ride like a God.'
I NEED a sequel
This on PS4 and Ryse Son of Rome on Xbox One. Both sleeper games that deserved a lot more.
With this game it has so much potential. I’m thinking build it out, do dlc’s, set up for a sequel. They could’ve did a dlc for invisible man, van hellsing, league of extraordinary gentleman, the mummy. They could’ve had a secret room filled with items like the book of the dead.
Yeah they could have gone so far with the different types of monsters and future tech
The question that always occurs to me is: does the fact that elements criticized in bad games are present in the “best games ever” (according to Playstation) prove that bad games are good, or that Sony's marketing is THAT good? I don't expect to start any deeper conversation, but I'm simply trying to put the topic of evaluating games and their reception by gamers from a slightly different angle.
My answer would be that it's all a matter of execution and expectations. For an analogy, a bad joke told well is still funny but a good joke told poorly is the death of comedy.
@@GenotisX For example, the too-close camera in The Order hinders gameplay, just as bad camera in God Of War is not, because we have colored arrows, which is not a good thing at all. It's a bad joke that has been repeated, but in an even worse way. But we were told it was a good joke, so we laughed.
Its a fake video game, its not a bad game. Its meant to be an interactive movie.
The gameplay is fun too it’s just sparse and they don’t try to layer on variety to it
It’s more a video game than any of those From Software glorified QTE generators where all you do is roll around on the ground.
@@frankaliberti That's a very inaccurate description,there is parrying,blocking and you have to attack too. It isn't a QTE game. By your logic ,nearly all games are QTE games because you can't just mash buttons, you must time when to do it. Red Dead Redemption 2 is also one by your logic.
@@UnseenHitman-1932 Calm down.
@@frankaliberti No.
This game and the story was sooooo good .
It wasn’t bad at all…….just way too short. I liked it .
I thought this game was really good. Super slept on but I will agree it was pretty short. But it literally just felt like I was playing a movie which was dope
Replaying it right now. I love this game.
This game is the epitome of wasted potential.
All that this game needed was less walkimg and a multiplayer mode, literally just that
It's a nice movie with occasional button pressing 🥰
Marquis is not exactly a name, it's a title!
@@Nin5egAta oh I didn’t realize that!
This game looks great, both art style and graphics are amazing. I wish more games would use a similar approach to minimize jitter, everything looks so smooth.
This is better looking than many ps5 games
To me the camera is great because when you are actually in cover you wouldn’t see your enemies which is better on my opinion than every other third person shooter which you always see the enemy which gives me a low key sensation of cheating, but I know it’s a video game etc but I honestly like the camera during combat, the aiming itself is faulty like you mentioned
A directors cut re-release of this game could help here with today's generation of hardware.
Needs a pc port
Man, graphics really peaked back then huh?
I loved this game so much
Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like this game really soured the public’s taste for these shooter on rails games for a few years. I’ve never owned a PlayStation or known many people who have but I’d be curious to know how it impacted people’s feelings towards Uncharted 4, which released only a year later.
I think Uncharted 4 made intentionally these “wide linear” sections that made it seem like you were more free to explore and of course the gameplay was much more realized and deeper. Not to mention a multiplayer to keep gameplay going
I love this game. Wish they’d make a sequel.
damnnnn i just finished my should you buy the order 1886 in 2024. Great minds
I like how Poop is just spoilering the whole game in an hour since nobody here is gonna play it anyway for themselfs. Its a short game, wasntgood in terms of gameplay and a PS4 exclusive after all :)
I enjoyed it, and the story premise was honestly interesting
for me the part that kills this game outright is the sheer cinematics and not letting the player just take control and be an action game and all the QTE's
had this been more mass Effect minus the RPG it might have been better, we can;'t even jump or climb a ladder? how pathetic, the devs might have well just made an animated movie, it's certainly cinematic enough....
honestly length wouldn't have been an issue if the game was just fun and let you play it.....have the high action points with crazy weapons, if the knights have power why hide from the rebels? go in and make it a slaughterhouse? we are the order, any citizen who harbors rebels of the nation shall be executed, this establishment is hereby seized in the name of the order and the crown, all who resist will be executed! then chaos follows allowing a sustained shootout, players may question this but later explain actions like this have to be taken cus the lycans prey on those who harbor em before turning some and killing the rest so it's totally a war of extermination that the order can't be to careful....oh this building hides the enemy? then burn em all and the more placess that get torched people on the streets stop giving the enemy safe passage
by controlling player input you play their narrative and never get to actually make a decision for yourself, this is not a game, it's a movie with interactive moments but it's not even that good a movie cus nothing is resolved and never will be lol
I despise QTE's the most and second on the most despised problems in games is games that are just movies, Metal Gear solid get's a bad rep for being movie yet has way more action than this and proper sneaking and all that, the order is less game than the most cinematic MGS game and that's the biggest turnoff!
40:59 why are the rebels fighting their leader?
I wonder what the hell happened with this game. Did they have problems with the engine or something?
I wish they would release on steam.
Yeah those black bars throw me off
I'm just bought it and am avoiding spoilers or other opinions but right off the rip on Ps5, other than frames I was like, holy crap!? This is a ps4 game? The ambiance and control scheme are almost resident evil like in the sense that it's so slow and methodical almost clunky bit not. They could easily makes this a crazy horror game(ps I'm literally 10min into the game).
@@dmora2386 enjoy :)
The Order 1886 is honestly a great 1st showing introduction to this world & what u do.
If it had made enough/got investors attention I could see the 2nd & 3rd game being amazing works of art.
Everything obviously would be improved or redone etc & with the style, world, graphics & movie like feel if the game could be semi open world better freedom in movement & combat, better camera etc it would have game of the year & best story/world design contenderin its future.
I hope someone wants to remake redo the game & make it a short sweet 3 act series.
This game still looks great today.
It really needed 2 b 3 times longer but was great while it lasted
Well, there is no sequel or multiplayer …
Still, I liked it, but I would have loved if we stayed with the order instead of the Cliché of “joining the rebellion coz their good”.
I just finished this
@@Sthomp10 how’d you like it?
Just very short
I still think calling this tech demo an interactive movie is more fitting than calling it a game.
it felt like gears of war and came out a few years after gears of war style gameplay died out. it felt 360 era juvenile. that plus the shit you mentioned with being short and linear
but, i think if this was made today it would be successful. people want the shorter linear games right now.
xbox has Rise son of rome and sony had this. they were both kind of the same game
48:26 didn’t he vote against him?
the only thing i hate about this game and they are the biggest reason i don't replay. i replay most games at least once.
unskippable cutscene and the story is tooooo short
No, the game was incredible. I loved every second of it. People just didn't like how short it was.
@@KanyeWestLyricalGenius it was good length imo
Ya'know what? I liked it. Yeah, sure, it wasn't perfect, but no one else has ever given me a thermite rifle.
Definitely gonna give it another pkaythrough. 🤙
Enjoy :)
Nope. I liked it a lot. Still bummed it didn’t get a follow up.
A sequel would have been so great!
order is still great, i love it
still looks gorgeous for such a old game
Yeah I was surprised it even still outdoes games we see today
The abundance of cutscenes over gameplay along with the lack of any other monsters to fight besides lycan’s made me not want to buy this game, I hope someone suitable gets this ip and gives it another chance to redeem itself.