Hi Folks! Sorry for the crackly audio from 0:25-0:45 seconds. Not sure what caused it and I couldn't fix it in post. Hopefully it isn't too distracting for you! Thanks as always for watching, and I hope you enjoy the video!
Your video made me wonder if my current ODBII scanning tool can read EV data. It's a BlueDriver Pro scan tool I bought back in 2016. It read other vehicles I've owned, but did not like my I6. I called support and sure enough they said flat out they do not offer support for EVs. Amazing how this $40 tool on Amazon (now $36 with a 10% coupon) can do with my $100 scanner can't 😕. Thanks for the tip on which tool does work for our cars.
I use a similar setup for my Bolt EUV. I've found the car actually does condition the battery for DC Fast charging, but only once you are actually plugged into a DC Fast Charger. It's not very aggressive either, only pushing it to about 68F. So in winter the second charge of the day ends up much better than the first. Pre-conditioning would just need a minor software change, but I don't have much hope that either GM for me or VW for you are interested in pushing out updates based on past experience.
Very interesting that Bolt warms to 68 degrees- VW states that ID4’s optimal temp for fast charging is 68F. I’ve found that DC fast charging heats ID4’s battery pretty quickly and significantly. I’ll have a video showing that on Friday. I too have little confidence for software updates, sadly.
Hi Evan, useful info in your video. I hope you’re still answering questions. My question is: Do you (or can you) leave the dongle plugged in all the time, when the car is sitting idle at home and/or as your driving around? If one does, are there ant negative effects?
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful. I do sometimes leave it plugged in for longer periods without any ill effects. You’ll just need to reconnect it through your phone any time you turn the car back on.
I wonder, what is your worry about charging “issues” related to less than rated charging levels? Not much can be done except trying a different charger.
Does this work with PHEVs? I was part of a charging study recently that was tracking how people charged their cars and they sent me a similar tracker but it had a cell connection to report back to the researchers. It would never report battery details like charge state, energy used, or charge energy and times. It would only report fuel usage figures so it seemed in the data like I never plugged my car in even though I'm like a charging czar and vacuum up every watt I can get access to.
Charging Czar (nice), yes it indicates that it works with PHEVs- for instance, I can see that it works with Toyota PHEVs, like the Prius prime and others.
This is great, Evan! Thank you. Are the Rivians (R1S and R1T) listed in the app? I'm a Rivian pre-order holder, with estimated delivery in the first half of 2024. It will be my first EV; so I'm learning. I think I've have heard (but I'm not certain) that OBD scanners don't work on the Rivians; this is why I ask. Thanks for your help.
You’re welcome! Unfortunately, I don’t see Rivian in the list of compatible makes. I’m wondering if that will be updated? Rivian is one of my favorites though, congrats!
@@williamelkington5430 There is an outfit, who currently makes these scanners for Teslas, who has made one for Rivians but right now they're in the testing stage. Brandon Flesch and Out of Spec Kyle has them in their Rivians for testing. Not sure if they'll work well enough eventually to be released for sale to the general public but at least there is one for the Rivian out there being tested right now. I also have an order in for a R1S! 🍻🍻
The OBD dongle is only temporarily installed- you can easily take it out when you’re not driving. Shouldn’t affect the warranty since it doesn’t actually impact the car’s activity.
It does warm enough to prevent freezing in very cold temperatures, but it doesn’t have a mechanism to actively warm the battery to optimal temp for fast charging. MEB’s optimal temp for fast charging is apparently over 68 degrees. I’ll have a new video about it on Friday.
@@goneelectricTrue, plus I’m sure it uses power to pre-con the battery. I’m sure a software change is needed to program this logic into the factory Nav system. Again Tesla has the VW beat on this feature.
I had not upgraded to premium when I shot this video. I did later though because they ended up limiting the non-premium version’s functionality. Was about $6/year. Well worth it IMO.
Hi Evan. I've watched most of your videos on your ID4 and I notice that you still say 'ignition on' often. I'm not sure you even realize that you're saying ignition. 🤣🤣There's no ignition for EVs. It's just a matter of the display turning on when you press the brake pedal. The EV is never really turned off -- it's always just in a state of mild sleep with the display turned off. Anyway, I'm not trolling or criticizing. Just thought I'd point it out if you weren't aware you're doing that. ☺☺
I had no idea I was saying that, so I appreciate you pointing it out! Sometimes I have to multi-task while filming, which interferes with articulation. Thanks for the note!
@@goneelectric Oh yeah -- lots to do while filming and trying to plan your next steps. I totally get it. I figured you probably didn't even realize it. Another one that others still say -- not you -- is "gas" pedal. 🤣🤣As you know, EVs have no gas, so it really should be referred to as the 'accelerator' pedal but many still refer to that pedal as the 'gas' pedal. Old habits die hard. 😂😂
Hi Folks! Sorry for the crackly audio from 0:25-0:45 seconds. Not sure what caused it and I couldn't fix it in post. Hopefully it isn't too distracting for you! Thanks as always for watching, and I hope you enjoy the video!
Thanks for the video. I have been wondering about getting one.
This was a really good video. Thanks for posting.
Your video made me wonder if my current ODBII scanning tool can read EV data. It's a BlueDriver Pro scan tool I bought back in 2016. It read other vehicles I've owned, but did not like my I6. I called support and sure enough they said flat out they do not offer support for EVs. Amazing how this $40 tool on Amazon (now $36 with a 10% coupon) can do with my $100 scanner can't 😕. Thanks for the tip on which tool does work for our cars.
I use a similar setup for my Bolt EUV. I've found the car actually does condition the battery for DC Fast charging, but only once you are actually plugged into a DC Fast Charger. It's not very aggressive either, only pushing it to about 68F. So in winter the second charge of the day ends up much better than the first. Pre-conditioning would just need a minor software change, but I don't have much hope that either GM for me or VW for you are interested in pushing out updates based on past experience.
Very interesting that Bolt warms to 68 degrees- VW states that ID4’s optimal temp for fast charging is 68F. I’ve found that DC fast charging heats ID4’s battery pretty quickly and significantly. I’ll have a video showing that on Friday. I too have little confidence for software updates, sadly.
Does the OBD unit drains the 12V battery when the car is off?
Is there another way? I have MetroMile insurance so I really can't have a second dongle...or can I?
Hi Evan, useful info in your video. I hope you’re still answering questions. My question is: Do you (or can you) leave the dongle plugged in all the time, when the car is sitting idle at home and/or as your driving around? If one does, are there ant negative effects?
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful. I do sometimes leave it plugged in for longer periods without any ill effects. You’ll just need to reconnect it through your phone any time you turn the car back on.
Some makes like my Rivian will not work with this, I have the same OBD reader, Rivian won’t allow the consumer to view those stats 😢
I wonder, what is your worry about charging “issues” related to less than rated charging levels? Not much can be done except trying a different charger.
More of an interest than a worry. Helps understand how EV batteries work, and over the long term, it can be used to monitor battery health.
Thanks for the info
You got it.
Are you still able to use wireless Apple CarPlay when connected to the dongle?
Yes, Apple CarPlay still works while connected!
You are welcome.
Does this work with PHEVs? I was part of a charging study recently that was tracking how people charged their cars and they sent me a similar tracker but it had a cell connection to report back to the researchers. It would never report battery details like charge state, energy used, or charge energy and times. It would only report fuel usage figures so it seemed in the data like I never plugged my car in even though I'm like a charging czar and vacuum up every watt I can get access to.
Charging Czar (nice), yes it indicates that it works with PHEVs- for instance, I can see that it works with Toyota PHEVs, like the Prius prime and others.
This is great, Evan! Thank you. Are the Rivians (R1S and R1T) listed in the app? I'm a Rivian pre-order holder, with estimated delivery in the first half of 2024. It will be my first EV; so I'm learning. I think I've have heard (but I'm not certain) that OBD scanners don't work on the Rivians; this is why I ask. Thanks for your help.
You’re welcome! Unfortunately, I don’t see Rivian in the list of compatible makes. I’m wondering if that will be updated? Rivian is one of my favorites though, congrats!
@@goneelectric Thanks very much for taking a look. Seems like it confirms what I thought I heard or read about the Rivian OBD port. Thanks again.
You got it!
@@williamelkington5430 There is an outfit, who currently makes these scanners for Teslas, who has made one for Rivians but right now they're in the testing stage. Brandon Flesch and Out of Spec Kyle has them in their Rivians for testing. Not sure if they'll work well enough eventually to be released for sale to the general public but at least there is one for the Rivian out there being tested right now. I also have an order in for a R1S! 🍻🍻
@@lanceguilin Thanks very much for this! I’ll keep an eye out for more information from Kyle and Branden.
Tesla supercharger opened up. Now you can make a video about it.
It’s coming!
Does installing that device void or invalidate our warranty in anyway?
The OBD dongle is only temporarily installed- you can easily take it out when you’re not driving. Shouldn’t affect the warranty since it doesn’t actually impact the car’s activity.
I thought the ID.4 heats the battery as soon as it starts, so it's *always* preconditioned, as it were. I could be wrong though.
It does warm enough to prevent freezing in very cold temperatures, but it doesn’t have a mechanism to actively warm the battery to optimal temp for fast charging. MEB’s optimal temp for fast charging is apparently over 68 degrees. I’ll have a new video about it on Friday.
@@goneelectricTrue, plus I’m sure it uses power to pre-con the battery. I’m sure a software change is needed to program this logic into the factory Nav system. Again Tesla has the VW beat on this feature.
Did you pay the annual fee for all of the functionality that you displayed?
I had not upgraded to premium when I shot this video. I did later though because they ended up limiting the non-premium version’s functionality. Was about $6/year. Well worth it IMO.
Anyone testing if this app works with other obd scanners?
Not sure, but it may work with others.
Does this work with a Fiat 500e?
Yes!
@@goneelectric cool,thanks! I've added it to my cart on Amazon.
Hi Evan. I've watched most of your videos on your ID4 and I notice that you still say 'ignition on' often. I'm not sure you even realize that you're saying ignition. 🤣🤣There's no ignition for EVs. It's just a matter of the display turning on when you press the brake pedal. The EV is never really turned off -- it's always just in a state of mild sleep with the display turned off. Anyway, I'm not trolling or criticizing. Just thought I'd point it out if you weren't aware you're doing that. ☺☺
I had no idea I was saying that, so I appreciate you pointing it out! Sometimes I have to multi-task while filming, which interferes with articulation. Thanks for the note!
@@goneelectric Oh yeah -- lots to do while filming and trying to plan your next steps. I totally get it. I figured you probably didn't even realize it. Another one that others still say -- not you -- is "gas" pedal. 🤣🤣As you know, EVs have no gas, so it really should be referred to as the 'accelerator' pedal but many still refer to that pedal as the 'gas' pedal. Old habits die hard. 😂😂