The First 10,000 Days on Mars | Timelapse
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- How would humans develop a colony on Mars? A permanent Mars base, capable of sustaining human life independently, has been a goal of many futurists, scientists, engineers, and entrepreneurs. But developing such a colony would be incredibly difficult. Today, we explore the implementation of this idea in detail.
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It's weird to think that I would love to be living on Mars, but one day there will be people living on Mars that wish they lived on Earth.
The expanse comes to mind.
Living on mars is going to be like living in the frontiers in the past. Life is hell, because you are miles away from any help, resources are limited and you have to be self-sufficient enough. Even tho technology has advanced, i dont think there's going to be any difference. It takes a wild soul to settle in the frontiers, and will be the same for mars.
But i believe such people exist.
Bro first go and spend a week or 2 in Utah, Arizona in canyons. After the trip you wouldn’t want to live on mars
Yeah
Lmao no, you wouldn't
Great video. Loved the animations and thorough exploration of the timeline. One recommendation: for timeline videos like this, keep a date or time indicator always visible somewhere on screen. There were a few points during it where I lost track of where we were on the timeline. Also would have liked to see a quick conversion of days-to-years too just so I don't have to do the math in my head.
If I live till we get to Mars I might go there and tell me kids
The animation of these videos gets better every time, great job!
Word! And the quality of the content is top-notch, to boot!
That's the point. It's animation, not real life.
yeah would be better if they didnt rip off kurzgesagt
Living on mars would probably suck. You would be indoors almost all the time, and indoors would mean underground or in a mountain. Building structures on the surface isn't feasable unless we find more efficiant ways to protect against radiation. Either way, a neat video. Would like to see one about possible colonization of Titan next :P
Beautiful video and great animation. Very enjoyable to watch. Much appreciated.
Politically Mars would probably be much better than earth, because instead of having a bunch of politicians, who don’t care about anything in command, there would most likely be a scientist of some kind in command, because their lives depend on it, and if there’s a scientist in command, even if the scientist is only familiar with a very specific field, still, he would be looking out for the interest of the survival of the colony in the long term and not just the short term. Mars would have the best politics.
IMO that’s only the case as long as the colony is not self sufficient and is still in its starting phase. Once it’s established and stable, and maybe more outposts are being built, Mars will become interesting as a starting point for travels deeper into space. Mining operations in the Asteroid Belt most likely would be launched and managed from Mars. At this point it’s probably “safe” enough for businessmen and “normal” people to live there and claim their piece of pie of the planet. And that’s where we will see the shift from scientists to businessmen and politicians running the show IMO.
Mars will be a crossroad for future trips beyond. A lot of people will travel to Mars based on it being a crossroad location.
The politics of living underground in a cave
It would be a great opportunity to try out an alternative way of government. I can't say I can think of an alternative but the system we have now certainly isn't perfect...
@@TheStubertos No system is perfect but the least imperfect government is currently the USA
Imagine being born on mars. As cool as it sounds, i’m sure many kids will feel like they’re missing out on the plethora of activities and sights to see that earth offers.
They will build disneyland on Mars
It would be a human rights violation to have a child off world. It's doubtful a pregnancy or infancy would even survive. Complex organisms likely can only survive in their own world.
mars’ gravity is less than half that on earth and - although i am no doctor - i can’t imagine that would be very good for a fetus or baby (not to mention the adult settlers). like we only get to observe the effects of different gravity through the ISS (i.e 0 gravity) i think - and they include serious cardiovascular, skeletal and muscular issues - but Mars’ gravity is still less than half that of Earth’s. i feel like that’s glossed over a lot in discussing Martian colonies, especially when it could mean the maximal life expectancy for a martian is only 50 or smthn (and that isnt even including the solar radiation).
@@hackneyedstudios4699 Everything we know so far about low gravity health risks is based on observations from astronauts who spent prolonged periods of time in orbit (zero gravity). Who knows, maybe even half the earth's gravity is enough to fully or at least mostly get rid of the risks.
@@-eternal We've been evolving for the last 500 million years in earth like gravity, i think "maybe" is a far stretch. Even if they somehow survived, their heart would be so weak that just a short exposure to earth's gravity would be lethal.
Bring Alah into this potential situation and it will be a banger
Yeah, if Muslims are involved, something will definitely go bang lol. Aaaaaaand that's why you'll never see an Islamic Space Program.
This is absurdly ambitious. People will not rush to Mars. Life there will not be attractive to the vast majority of people, as it lacks every single basic comfort and all the things we enjoy on earth. You'd have a hard time getting 1000 people to move to Mars even if you paid them. You have to permanently give up things like going outside, breathing fresh air, eating anything but plants, etc. This is nothing at all like colonizing on earth. Even gathering resources requires you to risk your life.
Yup, people will only go for money
A bunch of introverted vegans that love sci fi would probably disagree with you. But yeah the first people to move to mars would be the most passionate and lucky
There are far more people willing to take that Journey for whatever the reason May be, than most of us realize
I would love to visit and experience life on Mars if it means i can come back to Earth.
This is wildly wrong
To be honest, I liked the previous logo! This one is not bad though, but looks like a gaming channel!
i like it
Don’t think it’s that big of a difference
The animation is improving every time. Keep it coming!
That's right! Better animation=it's more possible! "If we can render it on a computer screen it must be possible!" The Idiocracy delusions from in these comments are amazing.
@@David-wc5zl dude what are you on to? He is just praising the animations and NEVER EVER did @batman.2022 or for that matter anybody else in the comment section as of my knowledge say that this must be possible
Love the video, but I'd say the reactors will be brought to Mars, as Copenhagen Atomics is already producing thorium reactors out of the factory, once landed they can be online in a matter of days to power the colony (given the infrastructure has been prepared for them, also one of the first things to be build are the fuel stations, to refuel the ships and send them back home so the next wave coming to Mars is even bigger.
LOL. This Deluded Fantasy Certainty is hilarious. "This one thing for earth use kinda exists therefore all the completely unknown off world problems are solved.". The MuskCult Idiocracy is here...and we know it's just the the Bush War Cult looking for an out for losing in Iraq so quickly, messing up the economy, etc.
I thought solar energy on mars was unlikely to work because of the extremely fine grained dust. It statically attaches to things, and can be extremely difficult to remove.
Robots can clean themselves solar panels
The dust is a problem with the whole idea of Mars colonisation. It gets anywhere unwanted, it will contaminate. It's extremely toxic, dangerous, sharp, and damaging. Even a bit of dust inside a suit or station would cause huge issues. We can't have bases above the surface because the radiation would definitely cause a problem. So they'd need to be under rock. Which again, considering the dust issue, seems unlikely.
They will live underground and need nuclear power.
That's why you have people stuck with punishment details doing that
It’s still being debated upon by researchers and scientists. Obviously, until finer tests are done at the locations of the hypothetical Mars colonization site, speculation is foremost at how solar energy may or may not work. But this is just what I found when I looked it up for curiosity sake - I am no expert
This was an incredible video hopefully we live to see what happens after day 10,000 and look back at this video and others like it to see how far we went vs how for we expected
I love all your videos and this one is now my favorite by far.
Another gem!🙏🧡
If this progression in humanity happens in my lifetime likely or unlikely, I would still choose to be here. There's no place like home.
I like you.
Edit: Your view I mean.
I'd rather be a mind upload, such that neither Earth nor Mars could compete with the wonders which enhanced humans and AI gods can dream up. But that isn't going to happen in my lifetime, and I'm so poor I'd be among the last ones in. I'll just stay on Earth, get ignored by doctors, and continue to lose cognitive faculties until I have no idea who or what I am anymore. Yay, future!
Not me to be honest, I want a place with no religion. I need a break from all these and this sounds perfect.
It's a fairytale, when you actually get into the details of all of this you realize we are not a decade away from achieving this but many decades
Great video! Also do one for moon colonization and also terraforming Mars.
very optimistic prognosis.. a lot can and will not go as planed.
Awesome video!
Fantastic video
Amazingly Nice 💜🧡
Love the videos
great video
The talk of Mars colonization is just something to distract you from our impending nuclear annihilation.
If we can just bring those weeds that can grow literally anywhere, we could terraform Mars in no time
I think you’re on to something. Never mind years of genetic engineering, go get those stubborn weeds that grow in concrete cracks!
Windenergy farms would be a total joke on Mars because of the thin atmosphere.
Other than that, great video!
Yep. A high wind is not really noticable.
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thisb is getting better than kurzegast
Really?
its diferent its just story not science fact :) , its very probably not going to append that way
Cool video, but you quickly forget dust, gravity and radiations 😅
I personally think this is a bit unoptimistic. We are trying to look 3 decades into the future but fail to look at the extreme progress we've made in the last 3 decades. Its obviously impossible to know what we will achieve but if we keep up with the technical acceleration we have today, I'm sure we will have achieved the progress of day 10000 a lot earlier, atleast if there is an increased amount of funding or cooperation.
(This is just my thoughts and opinions so dont hang me for it)
this is an enormous challenge though. 30 might be TOO optimistic with how little our government and the rich care about long term projects let alone space travel
LOL. There is no timeline. This is never happening because there's nothing on Mars for human life. If there are no resources to sustain life, then it's not a colony. That's called an outpost and nobody is paying for that long term.
@David-wc5zl of course, there is no timeline. This is just an interesting video with a very interesting speculative subject.
But I don't agree that it will never happen.
If we ever plan on exploring space, Mars or one of its moon is a natural choice. We can make rocketfuel from water ice, and the less gravity we have to fight to get off the planet/moon, the more we have to spare for exploration.
Although if we as a species can cooperate well enough to get people into space, it is highly doubtful, in my opinion..
How would you sustain muscle deterioration and bone mass loss?
I still do not understand, how this channel does not have millions of subs......
inspire hope
Fusion would be a good power source too. Mars has plenty of fuel for it.
These videos remind me of kurtzsagt which is a huge compliment! I can see this channel getting big
Meanwhile on Earth: Millions still die of cold and hunger as basic infrastructure is neglected.
You forgot climate change my friend
Martian Captain: "Do we attack now sir?"
Martian general: "Wait a couple of years till they've really got it all built up..."
The time scales of videos like thses are always off. It wouldn't take less than 30 years to build a city this complex on mars. It should take atleast 50+ years. Also considering the transport times, the testing of equipments on a new planet, the time it would take yo develop newer technologies to battle the challenges faced...we are optimistic to be there when this happens. But considering how long its taken us to even return back to our closest interstellar body, 30yrs for Mars quite reaching.
The new world colonization became successful due to economic incentives. Tobacco , sugar, precious metals. For a colony to thrive and eventually be successful , even if it is on mars, it has to eventually have an economic motivator. (Maybe sell high and low gravity technology, artificial systems industry etc) If it doesn’t thrive economically it will continue to just be another research base similar to ones in Antarctica providing scientific research (which in itself is valuable) but requires constant input
Too good to be true.
Great Video. I think it's likely that humanoid robots like Tesla's Optimus bot will arrive before humans. They won't have to worry about radiation or the lack of atmosphere and can do the dangerous and dirty work before humans arrive.
feels like one of those 10000 days minecraft hardcore videos
Imagine mars born humans visiting earth and breathing in the open without masks for the first time.
They could never come to Earth because their bones would be too fragile and their muscles would be very weak compared to an Earthling’s. They would be doomed to remain on Mars.
@@Nobddy they can exercise for months. Mars' gravity isn't zero G like in space, it is about 3rd of earth's gravity. Just like earth's astronaut prepare for Mars or space mission for years before leaving, they can do too.
LOL. It's not possible for a baby to grow off world. That would be a human rights violation anyways. Complex Life is Gravity Specific. The immorality & Insanity of these comments.
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10:44 this is unreal. We have a very nice and healthy planet, living on Mars is about doing cool things in space and not living on a planet with unbreathable air
But, congratulations! Very nice!
I think Mars City could've been called New Ares
Helium City
How about Elon?
@@Glathgrundel "Opportunity" after the rover which lasted over 50 times its intended mission length.
Awesome video, but an aspect not mentioned is how we will start trying to terraform mars into a more earth-like planet by for example nuking the north and south poles
Kurzgesagt: _And I took it personally_
ice as building material be self sealing and give vast structures in no time - spray strung structeres with water from the inside
- give everyone 9m diameter luxury apartments, make river-like lakes for indoor walks, seafood and o2 algae
(waterlocks as airlocks make living easy )
wow you just described the gameplay loop of mars
I think it would be more feasible to build large urban settlements in Antarctica in the next 50 years. Water is really abundant, solar and wind energy are available. Living on Mars seems too pretentious
it's important that how much water reserve it has
I hope that we'll not use Starship to go to Mars, we should use something that... you know, works, for these kind of things.
Starships definitely work they can go into orbit and they’re more safe than other rockets because they are tested and improved over time to be more safe and efficient.
@@tinalobaodavis3598 So you're positive that maybe next time it will not explode?
@@VisiblyPinkUnicorn If it does explode they would try to find out why it exploded and try to improve the starships so they don’t explode the next launch/mission.
@@tinalobaodavis3598 Ok, so Starship doesn't work and they will keep building and launching it until they either make it work or go bankrupt. Got it.
The problem is how will the starship return back from mars to earth. Before entering earth there should be a refilling station, using multiple ship each time is a waste of resources and what abt the people how will they go back is also be a main issue, what if there is nor way
Total self sufficiency in 30 years is optimistic, to say the least. A Martian colony will require very advanced technology to function, the kind of stuff we can only make because we have the industrial might of society 7 billion people strong to tap into. They may produce their own food water and even building Materials by then, but their life support will still depend on thousands of very specific parts that are not easy to manufacture from scratch.
Just imagine making a rubber seal for an air-hose, the high pressure container for an air tank, the uv-filter lining of a space suit helmet, on Mars. Not to even _mention_ computer chips. They may be able to reach a point where they can handle missing shipments from Earth for a couple of years, but _total_ self sufficiency is something else entirely.
Very optimistic! I don't think progress on Mars will happen that fast, and chances are the first humans will land on Mars in 2035 or so, but great video!
Very nice video. No future is guaranteed but this is what we should be strivng for. I think that humans will land on Mars by 2050 in the latest.
One point, craft don't wait until closest approach to travel to mars, they wait for a hohmann transfer window, which is when earth and mars are on opposite sides of the sun. This takes a long time, but requires the least amount of fuel.
I realized this was a joke when windfarms was brought up. Nuclear? Sure. Solar? Maybe. Wind or Gas? Absolutely not possible.
Mars population reaches 1M: alright boys. Lets turn back the clock and lets play a classic game called war
The starship heading to mars will have to refuel first. Also the first one will be mostly cargo deploying and can launch ahead of the '29 window. they might not decide to land them but rather create mars orbiting station with them. Only reason they would be landing starship will be after they can refuel them or to scrap it for parts/materials.
Also the biggest hazard on mars is radiation.
Forget about anything being above ground that doesn't have to be there.
That's why they would send unmanned ones beforehand they would have the refilling equipment
@@Shinzon23 personally i think there are 2 issues.
Main one is spaceX gets starship up and running in a few years if not by next. Who is going to build all the modules,infrastructure, training ect.?
2nd is it takes at best 6 months one way. that means you either ship early or you need to leave from here with everything and anything and pray you survive until next window.
and how is this going to be financed exactly. They are better off just head for the asteroid belt and cross their fingers to find something of value so they can barter on earth or at least draw funds .....
@qa1e2r4 Go watch The Show "for all Mankind" they cover ninety percent of the stuff needed to put a colony on mars in the show.
Essentially, you toss a initial wave of unmanned cargo ships with supplies ahead of the main wave of astronauts and do what you can with robots to prepare the site ahead of time; this was also mentioned in The Martian as well.
Once you have the cargo ships in place or even have remotely set up habitats and stuff, you then send the astronauts and probably toss another wave of cargo ships loaded with things like food and water supplies that are more immediately needed and set those down next to the Wave 1 stuff.
You can actually get air put of martian soil, curiosity rover had a test module for it and that little package could make enough oxygen to sustain a person, so scale it up and you have your air supply even if you don't find deposits of water right away.
This entire time your tossing cargo ships you'd be training your astronauts as well; nasa would gleefully use Space X starships as I seriously doubt the SLS will ever be ready, and would be more than willing to work with them for training.
We HAVE all the tech needed to go the mars, we've had it since the 80s, but political pressure has always scuttled the plans.
Werhner von Braun actually came up with viable at the time plans for a mars colony in the 60s,using computers that are less powerful than my Android Tablet
@@qa1e2r4LOL. You're actually talking about Starship as if its already successful. These MuskCult comments of idiocy are so funny.
No atmosphere, no human life.
I wonder if becoming an interplanetary species might stop the stupid constant fighting over lines on maps?
Gee, if we only had a planet that already has air and water. We'd be setup.
It's interesting for sure. If you think about it though no one born and raised on Mars would be able to withstand the extra gravity and atmospheric pressure here on earth.
Yes they would lol they still have human biology
@@Finsftw102 You're talking about a human being born under less gravitational influence growing up in that environment and then suddenly thrusted on a planet that has more gravity. It would be the equivalent of you putting on an extra large weight suit and trying to walk around, it would be hell on your bones and your structure. On top of that their circulatory system over time would evolve to adapt to Mars's environment and gravitational influence. Why do you think we struggle in space with no gravitational influence? Our circulatory system was not equipped or evolved in that kind of environment.
@@Finsftw102Nope. You really don't understand anything here, so why are you pretending to be an expert? You still trust Elon Musk, don't you? LOL. Another member of the Idiocracy.
your body would weaken to a point that may be detrimental outside of earth's gravity, some adaptation could occur but the longer you stay the more unlikely you would be able to return
Living in a bubble in Antarctica would be orders of magnitude more hospitable. No internet. No fresh air. Nothing. Would be rougher than many imagine I think.
2029 is far too optimistic IMO, it should be around early to mid 22nd century. 🚀
To me now you are underestimating the speed on colony like that. I’m guessing it will be more around the later half of the 21st century. Though I can’t pin point a time I think it will be around then.
We already have starship so I believe that we will reach mars in this century and not hundreds of years in the future.
If anything bad happens it could be a one way mission with little chance of survival
Make it so.
0:33 what about when the planets on opposite sides of of the sun
A starship could slingshot around the sun and reach destiny
Surviving Mars
Easier in CGI, got the elon musk stamp of quality!
So faceless automated AI generated content actually works on CZcams? Sir which software do you use to generate this content?
0% of this content was created with AI
0:35 That is not the path to go to mars, what's being shown is just the two planets being aligned what nothing to do with the travel or the correct timeing for the launch, it would be better if the visual representation scientifically accurate.
5:30 Architects! You mean engineers.
RCE.
We're missing a massive opportunity if we don't call the first boozer: Mars Bar
Multiply this timeline by pi (3.14) and you’ll get the realistic timetable for these events.
You forgot to add the leGrange fusion/fission satellite that provides a magnetosphere to deflect the high energy radiation away from the settlement. Thus allowing transparent domes for plants and people.
Will probably still have to live underground in volcanic tunnels anyway.
The point of the magnetosphere satellite would be to deflect the high energy radiation around mars whilst letting lower energy wave lengths like light through. It would mimic how the earths magnetosphere works but on a MUCH smaller scale. Whilst the satellite would still need to be HUGE with an insane amount of power it's technically possible. It would allow you to walk around the surface of mars without worrying about radiation exposure. @@-whackd
Sometimes we forgot that the origin purpose of travelling the stars was for the benefit of our own planet. The iss does extremely important research for how to help the help the rest of us. From materials science to medical tech the possiblitys are endless, space from the beginning isnt a place of hotels and casinos but a place for science, and that was what Nasa is still about today. But what do i know. Keep that in mind i guess next time you time you stare into the dark abyss and wonder for what purpose it brings.
Mars base alpha would only be viable for a short time settlement ppl would need to move underground very quickly because the radiation
I think any building must be underground. Only solar batteries and radiators can be surfaced.
Radioactive food from greenhouse could be extra option.
Why? If you're thinking about radiation, you're wrong. it is not high enough to require underground buildings.
@@florianschneider3982 radiation while solar activity is quite high, also more meteorites there
@@tyalikanky Meteorites are a much smaller problem on Mars than in Earth orbit, and the ISS has been there for decades.
The radiation poses no danger.
No atmosphere, radiation is off the charts on the surface. Combine that with the trip over there and you'll get cancer.
Huh.... Being on the surface of mars your entire lifetime is guaranteed cancer.
Beautiful, but I hope they chose a more interesting name than Mars City.
This is the weirdest Surviving Mars playthough I ever watched
Great job, however I doubt this will happen as "Money always Wins" & there is no huge profit potential with Mars
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this is entirely too optimistic
Literally any unpopulated place on Earth, like deserts, the poles, etc. would be far easier to do this on than Mars. While I think research in this area is still valuable and we should be doing science to try to get a manned mission to Mars, there is simply no incentive to actively colonize it yet. Anything (other than scientific research) we could do on Mars, we could do on Earth easier and better.
Every kids on Mars need to touch a grass.
can you teach me this type of animation i will serve you with little fee on your every projects
A variety of power sources is not really necessary. Nuclear is capable and reliable enough to generate power. Battery storage will also be less necessary. Wind and solar are not good renewable resources.
"Starships" starship originally meant a spacecraft traveling star distances, between stars, not planets in a single system. Elon is bad at naming things, this will be confusing for people in the future.
Who cares. It sounds cool
Maybe Starship is meant to be the spacecraft used to travel planets of a *Star*
Wind farms on Mars!? Isn't the atmosphere quite thin? It wouldn't be a very efficient means of generating electricity.
More dust than sunlight 😢
A good effort :) You do realize that Martian dust storms will often cover those solar panels? ;)The best initial source of power on Mars would be Nuclear Electric Thermal generators, and later on, fission reactors. Even on Earth "green" tech is dubious due to supply chain issues which boost expense and limit how many solar panels and batteries we can make, and primitive storage technology for intermittent solar and wind power, so how would "green" tech work on Mars reliably? ;)
In addition, living in well-lit underground habitats beats surface domes as being far safer. By year 10 NO solar panels will be used on the surface for the colony, power WILL be nuclear :) Solar might work as an orbital power station beaming it to a surface array as microwaves for the colony a ways off from the site :) And of course the toxic Martian surface soil loaded with perchlorates will need scrubbing before compost can be added to grow crops :)
We will cook our troposphere before this happens. Overshoot is real.
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Do you guys really think bone and muscle loss in low gravity environment on long time is a small thing to overcome?
Oh great heavens my circulatory system is failing.
Mars City looks more comfortable to live in than Dubai. And that's with all the radiation.
To be born on Mars would be so enoying🥲