The 89G - What Happened To Motorcraft Oil Filters? I'm Not Happy!

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  • čas přidán 30. 03. 2024
  • #ford #oil #wix
    ‪@ford‬ ‪@fordparts‬
    Welcome to another episode of The Eight Nine Garage. In this video, I bring to light some concerning findings regarding the quality of Motorcraft oil filters. Through research and hands-on testing, it has become evident that there has been a noticeable decline in quality since the rumored recent supplier change.
    Join me as I delve into the details of my findings, outlining the inferior construction, and overall diminished durability of Motorcraft oil filters under the new supplier.
    As stewards of our vehicles' longevity and performance, it's crucial to stay informed about changes that could impact their reliability. Therefore, I urge you to watch this video to understand the implications and consider alternative options for your oil filter needs.
    Let's ensure the continued well-being of our vehicles by staying vigilant and informed. Watch now and share this vital information with fellow automotive enthusiasts!
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Komentáře • 119

  • @OfficialNakatsuMegami
    @OfficialNakatsuMegami Před 2 měsíci +7

    When Motorcraft went from Purolator to Champ, I switched and only use Purolator Filters now. Specifically The Purolator One.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 měsíci

      They look like a really good alternative! 👍 Thank you for the suggestion 🙏

    • @Andrew__Smith
      @Andrew__Smith Před měsícem

      Try *Purolator Tech* - same sh..t but cheaper

  • @donwyoming1936
    @donwyoming1936 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The Champ made oil filters for Motorcraft were only temporary due to supply chain issues. They're already out of the supply chain. Purolator filters have been the only ones in stock for a long while.

  • @dennisdewald6729
    @dennisdewald6729 Před měsícem +3

    As an auto parts store owner Wix filters cost me more than what i was selling them 4 years ago...as we continue to Build Back Better expect the prices to continue to go up

    • @89G
      @89G  Před měsícem

      It's unfortunate being in your position, I imagine. I don't mind paying more for better. Thank you for adding that info!

  • @thetruth4791
    @thetruth4791 Před měsícem +2

    we just cut open 3 motorcraft filters 3 different vendor ,and all 3 just full of glue,we also will be using wix...Thanks for the Great video ,Heads up, Thanks...bs they would make a filter like that..

    • @89G
      @89G  Před měsícem +1

      I agree! I never heard back from them either. Huge disappointment! Thanks for sharing your findings too!

  • @ThatBeaver1
    @ThatBeaver1 Před 16 dny

    Thank God I got the 4 cylinder oil filter by accident instead of the V6 for my 07 Ford Escape. I returned it immediately and bought a Mobil 1 since they didn't have the Wix like you mentioned. Appreciate the info, my engine sends its regards to ya 👍

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 16 dny

      @@ThatBeaver1 glad to help! Thank you for the feedback 😊

  • @wildmanofthewynooch7028
    @wildmanofthewynooch7028 Před 26 dny +1

    Motor Craft made by Purolator which is owned by Mann & Hummel. Motor Craft filters are manufactured in South Carolina the more you know

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 22 dny

      Thank you!

  • @AintScaredGarage
    @AintScaredGarage Před 3 měsíci +3

    I wish you had a FL1A from the 70s, they even better

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      I wish I did too! That would be a great find.

  • @CWB1863
    @CWB1863 Před 3 měsíci +8

    I stopped using the MC over a year ago. Too many videos of seeing poor quality control. Strictly use the Purolator Boss now...gladly pay the $ for peace of mind.

    • @Jay388
      @Jay388 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I'm thinking of going that route myself 😎👍👍

    • @CWB1863
      @CWB1863 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Jay388 Good deal, they get high marks from most places i've seen. That's why i switched to the Boss. So far, very solid filter.

    • @efaraday4
      @efaraday4 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Same here

    • @SameGuy875
      @SameGuy875 Před 2 měsíci +1

      All USA made filters are having the same problems, including Purolator Boss with closed louver inner tubes that block or restrict flow. I cut open a Boss with almost completely closed louver and there was a inch of the filter media that was not glued that would have allowed unfiltered oil to the engine.

    • @lukeWiz44
      @lukeWiz44 Před měsícem

      @@SameGuy875 had a similar issue with the Purolator ONE filters. Louvers weren’t opened up. It’s typically not an issue, as long as you inspect before you put it on a vehicle.

  • @lucaskowcz8437
    @lucaskowcz8437 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I was pleasantly surprised how nice the Mircoguard select. It’s made by premium guard extended life filters. They are made in Vietnam I think. Super duper well made. Holes instead of louvers. White glue that’s super strong and not sloppy. Also use an actual spring for the bypass valve. Silicone anti drain back valve and silicone gasket. Good stuff I use them for everything.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      That is some great info. I really appreciate you bringing that into the conversation. Thank you!

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Microgard Select filters are excellent. They are very well made. Same for the Premium Guard Extended Life. They have high flow properties with very clean filter assemblies. BTW, that Motorcrap filter is pure garbage. I would NEVER put one in my car.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @ChicagoRob2 thank you for the input! I need to pop one open.

  • @elrami4159
    @elrami4159 Před 2 dny +1

    Today i changed oil for my 2012 fusion hybrid with the 2.5 lit i live in the middleeast and i asked the tech why are they dumping fomco filters they said the same reason you mentioned and some they said it explodes
    So i switched to wix

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 dny

      Wow!!! Hadn't heard of that issue. I hope Ford will respond to the poor feedback they are receiving. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

  • @SleazysGarage
    @SleazysGarage Před 3 měsíci +3

    Oh dang, that's crazy! Guess I'm switching to wix now. Thanks for making this video 89!

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      You're welcome my friend! Hope you had a good Easter!

  • @peskypeet
    @peskypeet Před 2 měsíci +2

    Seems like all the companies that were bought by Mann & Hummel are having quality control issues, especially with the super sloppy glue.
    "If" you didn't know Mann & Hummel bought Purolator & WIX. Seems like they are cheapening more & more of the models up like getting rid of the clean end bypass valves to getting rid of the silicone gaskets. That goes for both companies. Some of the WIX filters now use a cheaper stamped steel piece for pressure instead of their regular coil spring. And yes there is also a glue problem.
    I've also seen where there's some new part numbers replacing old Motorcraft oil filters. When opened they look extremely similar to the super cheap Champ Labs Supertech oil filters at Wlmrt. Plastic inside cage & all.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thanks for that info.... That backs up some of my findings. I've been in the process of getting some other filters to look over, and this info makes the picture clearer on when I found.

  • @wilmaharvey4216
    @wilmaharvey4216 Před měsícem +1

    I used the old MOTORCRAFT FL-1A filters on my old now, new at time 1981 TOYOTA 4x4 Longbed Pickup for decades.!! The first year of the upgrade engine size, and Toyota's best most produced engine, the 22R from the smaller 20R engine.! The 22R was used in the Toyota Celica also as the standard engine. The Motorcraft FL-1A Was the BIG oil filter option versus the small size filters.! A plus was the extra additional amount of total oil capacity.! Also, the dirt holding capacity was by far greater with the bigger filter.!! 560,000+ thousand miles, and no oil burning or loss between 3000 mile oil, and filter changes.! Factory stickers are still on the air cleaner cover just like new, and Toyota reccomended to change motor oil every 10,000 miles under normal conditions, and every 5000, miles under extreme or dusty conditions.! That's on a 1981 engine using just plain old Dinosaur oil.!! That says alot for there product Quality, and confidence in them.!! I noticed that on the Dealership lot before buying the Truck.! I thought to myself that will never happen, and it never has.!!😊

    • @89G
      @89G  Před měsícem

      I have a Yaris that I drive as my daily. It's such a great running car. It has 245K on it now. It has a 1NZFE and although it's not a powerhouse, it gets around alright. I'll most certainly buy another one to replace it whenever that time comes. I stay on top of the maintenance very religiously, and I know that's playing a major role in the longevity. BTW, I just love those old trucks. They are soooo solid! I appreciate you watching and commenting!

  • @BigStickStangs
    @BigStickStangs Před 3 měsíci +3

    Great video! I always use Wix. I thought Fram was the worst filters, these are just as bad. You’re 100% correct on Parts Master, those are Wix too. The last shop I worked at used those. Can be purchased at bumper to bumper! Have a great Easter buddy!
    👊😎✌️

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks my friend! I've always been a Wix fan. But they're number one now.

  • @RioGrande3004
    @RioGrande3004 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I've always liked Wix since being around them at Amware years ago, but this pushes me over the edge. I don't care what a Wix costs, that's what I'm going for.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      I'm right there with you! I'm upset they let this happen.

    • @user-fw6xr3ue2q
      @user-fw6xr3ue2q Před 3 měsíci +1

      Watch that Wix…some made in china, some Mexico. Quality took a hit as price climbed.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      @@user-fw6xr3ue2q The WIX trans filters that I use are made in China. They've been OK thus far, but I am keeping an eye on it. Thanks!!

  • @pjcustoms8508
    @pjcustoms8508 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I appreciate this video and I too, noticed the change at the cup of the filter. I run a STP on my ‘88 Fox, and a K&N on my ‘98 and so far, so good on both. I believe in FoMoCo products but I’ve said bye to that filter.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I was astonished. Especially for the way they've gone up in price. I really hope this decline in quality is limited to oil filters only.

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts Před 3 měsíci +2

    Some of the newer MotorCraft filters are also just white "AC Delco " champ labs filters too ,i call those " MotorCrap " filters

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I've got some Champ Labs stuff in my Rock Auto cart.... that's good to know. Thanks for putting that info here!

  • @rking3724
    @rking3724 Před 3 měsíci +3

    That's why they call it Motorcrap.

  • @haac4825
    @haac4825 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow messed up. Disappointed too. I wanted to stay OE with Motorcraft. I guess will go too KN and just stay Safe.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      K&N is on my list to cut open. I cut open 3 other brands last night, and I was pretty astonished at what I found!

  • @jefweb5043
    @jefweb5043 Před 3 měsíci +1

    For the longest time, I'd use the FL-910S filters for all of my lawn mowers, and get them from Walmart. Same deal...you could get them for $4/filter, and they were great. Then they were gone... I'm seeing them back again, only they're $8!! I'm with you... I'm switching to Wix or Carquest Premiums. Thanks for the features!

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      My Escape takes the 910S, and I also noticed those jumped up in price too! I just got a Purolator Tech, Fram TG, and an Ecogard in the mail to cut open.

    • @jefweb5043
      @jefweb5043 Před 3 měsíci

      @@89G Another great alternative to the 910S that has gone away was the Supertech MP3614. Great filters to test on (Purolator, Fram and Eco guard). I'll keep an eye out for it!

  • @scottamy6496
    @scottamy6496 Před měsícem +1

    Wix are my goto oil filters, but the MicroGuard filters are very good too!

    • @89G
      @89G  Před měsícem

      Yes, I agree! Both are very viable options.

  • @DoyleHargraves
    @DoyleHargraves Před měsícem +1

    You know, i started noticing a difference a few months ago. And when they went from $5 to almost $9, i started asking myself why i'm staying with MC. I kept telling myself that the QUALITY was the most important part. Now i'm looking at Purolators again.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před měsícem

      You know, that's exactly right. I was just opening these up to see what improvements had been made to warrant the extra price... they are 12 dollars now here. Boy was I surprised 😮

  • @bp99zman
    @bp99zman Před 3 měsíci +2

    wix for the win!!!

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      They make a really good product!

  • @davidsacco4860
    @davidsacco4860 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Another site opened up that Motorcraft filter and it had the same messy glue on the end caps.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      It's bad... I wanted to back up my findings, and I decided to cut another one open. Same thing as well. I really hope Ford responds to this, and finds a different supplier!

  • @JROC734
    @JROC734 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I've always used the FL820S on my Modulars because they were good filters for a low price. My favorite filter brand for my other engines whether 3.5L EB, GEN3 Coyote, Exmark mower, or JD 5075E is a Baldwin filter. They are quality USA made filters that are built strong, and priced fairly. The Baldwin B329 cross references the the FL820S, but I've never seen one cut open as most people have always just used the FL820S.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      I've used Baldwins on my Toyota. Definitely some high quality filters! I was impressed. That is an idea to try one of those! Thank you

    • @JROC734
      @JROC734 Před 2 měsíci +1

      No problem. Glad to give a decent filter suggestion. 👍

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 měsíci

      @@JROC734 yes, that is very helpful to all of us!

  • @LA_Commander
    @LA_Commander Před 3 měsíci +2

    If you guys like the older Motorcraft filters that were made better, consider using a Purolator or a CarQuest filter. Those are almost exactly what the previous better-made Motorcraft filters are and the price isn't out of control on those like some other filters I could mention. Alternatively, if you like the WIX brand you can get the Microguard offered at O'Reilly's it's a WIX filter for about half the price.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      Yes indeed. Great info. Thanks so much for adding that! ☺️

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      I've got a Purolator on the way to cut open!

    • @CWB1863
      @CWB1863 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah, Carquest premiums are pretty good. Used them in the past as well. No issues...

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      @@CWB1863 the Carquest I used to go to closed. I'll have to see if Advance has them.

    • @CWB1863
      @CWB1863 Před 3 měsíci +1

      They do, they have them behind the counter for some reason.

  • @waynestinyworld
    @waynestinyworld Před 3 měsíci +2

    Well dang man. I did what you did and bought all the FL1As that Walmart had. Been a couple years so maybe I'm good. I've been using them on my 88GT since i bought it new. The cost is stupid now. I use Wix on everything else. I've always thought they were the best except Motorcraft..... I'll be changing solely to Wix. Thanks for the vid Shane.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      My FL1A is at least a couple years old, and it was fine. Do you know what style "socket" they have? That may be the telling factor for you. Thanks for watching!! Much appreciated.

    • @waynestinyworld
      @waynestinyworld Před 3 měsíci +1

      I'll be looking tomorrow for sure! 😂

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      @@waynestinyworld I'm curious to know!!

    • @waynestinyworld
      @waynestinyworld Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@89G Well i looked at the last 2 i have. Bought in Feb 2022. Both have the newer looking flats on the end. So who knows. I have a request. Can you give us the various numbers on Wix made filters compatible with FL1A?

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@waynestinyworld Yes. I have the list on my PC at home. I'll get back with you!

  • @raymcintire6296
    @raymcintire6296 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I’d bet if FOMOCO is very concerned they would like to have those filters back.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      You could very well be right. I'm kind of stunned that I still haven't heard back from them.

    • @rking3724
      @rking3724 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@89G Let us know if they ever get back to you. Thanks.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@rking3724 for sure. Nothing yet!! But I'll definitely follow up if/when they do.

    • @peskypeet
      @peskypeet Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@89G Good luck with that. I'm 100% sure they know.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 měsíci

      @@peskypeet yep.... they know, but don't care either. Kinda sad.

  • @hotrodray6802
    @hotrodray6802 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I use Mobil 1 filters and oil.
    M1 filters inlet holes are much larger elongated holes of at least 3x the area.
    You might say ouch because theyre $3 more, every 5,000 miles, but hey,
    you piss away more than $3-5 on frivolous shxt all the time.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I've never tried one... I'll have to look at those a little closer. Thanks!

  • @glh1725
    @glh1725 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Don't count out counterfeit filters making it into mainstream retailers. It has happened before. You may be looking at fakes.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks! I've dealt with fake spark plugs already. Not good!

  • @Chicagoguy1984
    @Chicagoguy1984 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I own a few Ford cargo vans, and Crown Vic’s that run the 820-S I double checked my stash and thankfully none were the piece of crap champion made versions👍🤘🏻😎

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 měsíci

      I wish I had a stash. Protect those babies with your life, LOL!

  • @DriftyBits
    @DriftyBits Před 3 měsíci +1

    Man pretty interesting. I've been using oem honda filters with my Race car, and now that I'm switching to the Fox I had planned to use Motorcraft filters on the 2.3..... now kinda second guessing it.... hmmmmm

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I'd do WIX if I were you! Thanks for checking in. Can't wait to meet your Fox.

    • @DriftyBits
      @DriftyBits Před 3 měsíci +1

      @89G yeah, that honestly seems like the smartest course of action. Lol. We'll be out at the Utah State Fairpark 4/14 for Autocross. Well have our Thunderbird and Williams Foxbody GT out racing!

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@DriftyBits Sweet... I'll have to swing by if I'm not rebuilding a trans. Do you ever drift or do auto-x at UMC? I live about 10 minutes from UMC.

    • @DriftyBits
      @DriftyBits Před 3 měsíci +1

      @89G yes! We race at UMC quite often. I don't drift much very more. I've gotten more into Autocross and NASA Time Attack. I can give ya a heads up when our next UMC Event will be.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@DriftyBits sweet, let me know for sure!

  • @tchrisou812
    @tchrisou812 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Personally I would buy more and cut them open with the thought that it may have just been a "bad batch" but even if it were I'm not sure I could trust them with my engine again. Does the box give a production location or a different "manufactured by" whoever? I'd be interested to hear what Ford says too.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      All it says is Made in the USA on the sticker. I've opened probably 20 filters, and nothing looks the same... yet. It's somewhat easy to see what WIX and Fram make for other places. But this MC has me stumped.

  • @MrBlitzkrieg1987
    @MrBlitzkrieg1987 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Woah!!!! 🤯 More expensive and made cheaper at the same time 😡

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yep... take it on both ends! Lol. It's frustrating!

  • @hemifiedsixtyfour2813
    @hemifiedsixtyfour2813 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I wouldnt cut another one open. One junk filter is all I need to not buy another one.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Good point! I'll probably go exchange them for Wix.

  • @kos2318
    @kos2318 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I use Ford racing on my 03 cobra. I know they are expensive. I bought a bulk pack of 12 from Summit Racing a few years back when they were a lot cheaper than they are now.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      I've never tried one of those. How do you like the quality?

    • @kos2318
      @kos2318 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@89G the quality is excellent. The only thing is the canister is smooth. There’s no notches at the end to put a cap wrench on. You have to use a strap wrench even though I hand tighten the filter down certain times they’re a pain to get off. If I had a lift to where I can stand underneath and get better leverage, I’m sure they’d be a lot easier but when you’re laying on your back in the driveway, sometimes a pain.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci

      @@kos2318 I really appreciate that info! I've been wanting to get the FL1A version and look at it. Like you're saying, I can only find them at Summitt, etc though

  • @jameslehmann6452
    @jameslehmann6452 Před 29 dny +1

    Cut away

  • @JuanGutierrez-jv3im
    @JuanGutierrez-jv3im Před 3 měsíci +2

    I knew it i have a relative were they make those filters they are crap

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Can you divulge where they are being made? I'm just curious who is making them now.

    • @JuanGutierrez-jv3im
      @JuanGutierrez-jv3im Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@89Gmexico

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +2

      @JuanGutierrez-jv3im good to know! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

    • @JuanGutierrez-jv3im
      @JuanGutierrez-jv3im Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@89G any time ive been told that those filters are junk they use to be made in the us

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@JuanGutierrez-jv3im yes indeed!

  • @bigdaddymak1439
    @bigdaddymak1439 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You're hilarious, Purolator who made the OG FL1A filter got bought by Mann Hummel who makes the newer version. Guess who owns WIX??? MANN HUMMEL BTW pleat spacing has nothing to do with quality. Bitching on CZcams over a 4 dollar Walmart filter 😂😂😂 I buy a fram ultra synthetic, Purolator Boss or Wix XP. You're so worried about you precious Ford you wont spend 10 bucks on an oil filter.

    • @89G
      @89G  Před 2 měsíci

      Hey thanks for the criticism. Much appreciated Big Daddy.

    • @riptodd9111
      @riptodd9111 Před 2 měsíci

      great job on missing the point.

    • @user-fw6xr3ue2q
      @user-fw6xr3ue2q Před 2 měsíci +1

      You’re a lot more precious than his Ford, sweetie…😂😂😂

  • @jsj297
    @jsj297 Před 3 měsíci +6

    That’s the new Biden can filter 😂