What Makes Trainer Gae Such A Great Pad Holder & How You Can Improve

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
  • Superbon's rise through ONE FC seems to coincide with his time under trainer Gae. Every time I watch Superbon hitting pads I also end up admiring Gae's pad holding skills. Today I share with you 4 things trainer Gae does that help make him an exceptional pad holder.
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    0:00 Introduction
    1:51 Throws Back
    3:18 Creates KO Replication
    4:32 Bullies Students
    5:47 Focuses On Perfection
    7:04 Closing
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  • @keegan97
    @keegan97 Před rokem +104

    I'm currently in Thailand training and did a private with trainer Gae (pronounced "Gay") last week at Khun Suek Muay Thai in Ao Nang, he is absolutely on another level compared to pad holders in the west. I've been training for 10 years back in Canada and have never experienced anything like that private. He begins his privates by getting you to lay on your back and then proceeds to stretch your legs in every direction farther than you ever thought you could stretch (I honestly thought he was going to tear something but he didn't). He then starts with some light technical pad work to access your weakness' and strengths, then after 10-20 min he begins to turn it up and absolutely beat your ***, sweeping you, countering you, clinching you, pretty much anything to test you, he even threw Oblique kicks at my supporting leg to knock me over while I was throwing kicks (which in the west would be considered "dirty" in sparring or a real fight). It was an absolutely mind blowing experience, after that one hour private I was more tired then I have ever been in my life, and had learned more about Muay Thai then I had in my 10 years training. I would highly recommend anyone who is looking to compete in kickboxing go do a private with trainer Gae, there is a reason he is the best!

    • @westernimpressions5232
      @westernimpressions5232 Před rokem +2

      wow, this sounds excellent!

    • @burningknuckle26
      @burningknuckle26 Před rokem +3

      im jealous

    • @nightclawer6679
      @nightclawer6679 Před rokem +5

      Kicking standing leg is standard technique since Muaythai Boran. Many of Gae technique come from there which is why you don't see it normally. To counter the kick you can also using both of your elbow or you can push kick over the knee to stop the kick.

    • @ErinMcCoy3
      @ErinMcCoy3 Před rokem +3

      @keegank is 100%. Did a 1:1 with Trainer Gae in BKK in May '22. It's insanely humbling & amazing. Do it if you can!

    • @davidalejandro7925
      @davidalejandro7925 Před rokem

      How much did it cost you if dont mind and how you did contacted him?

  • @jaketheasianguy3307
    @jaketheasianguy3307 Před rokem +87

    Seeing Gae actually sweep his students for throwing lazy round kicks and hit them back constantly as counter attack simulation is the best is what made him one of the best pad holder out there. I have seen so many so called professional trainers out there just hold pad infront of their students calling out attacks over and over with very little moving around. Pad holding is suppose to be simulating fights without injuries, yet no counter attack and just standing infront of each other throwing shots is a good way to get brain damage. Yea it's good cardio but if your target didn't hit you back in a realistic way or didn't even hit back, you better off just go to the heavy bag and have that trainer calling shots right next to you

    • @eldenlean5221
      @eldenlean5221 Před rokem +8

      The head coach at my boxing gym would do this and it was amazing. If you didnt raise your hands, he would atack that opening, if you didn't return your lead leg to its stance after a double jab, he would atack, if you left your head still while you were supposed to be evading shots, he would atack. The rest of the coaches would only do it when they saw your hands down, and while thats still great its a shame they didnt go the extra mile. Its a huge difference.

  • @brianbadonde8700
    @brianbadonde8700 Před rokem +25

    big respect for the pad holders, it's tough on their body, until you've held pads for guys that can hit you've no idea

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem +3

      That’s a good point Brian. We have several 220lbs+ guys in our gym who know how to hit. If my holding isn’t on point, it can be pretty rough...especially when their right body roundhouses come smashing in. 🙏

  • @natlimweshasin1983
    @natlimweshasin1983 Před rokem +85

    His name pronounces like 'GAY'. Fun fact :) the name was not made in order to insult or demean him in any way. But he said in an interview that his name came from the fact that back when he was a kid, he was quite a rowdy kid who sometimes pick fights with other kids (not the case nowadays, of course). The word we call those kids in Thailand, especially in the countryside is 'เกเร' (pronounces like 'GAY RAY'). Hence, he playfully adopted the name trainer 'GAE' (the first syllable, same sound but changed the spelling :))

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem +5

      Very cool info, thanks bro 👌

    • @naechamchot3430
      @naechamchot3430 Před rokem +5

      Nice explanation to non Thais..Yes I was also gaylay growing up but just partying and getting bad grades but no fighting.

    • @TheLegendOfMrDGaming
      @TheLegendOfMrDGaming Před rokem +3

      Rad insight, thank you.

  • @Ash__Adler
    @Ash__Adler Před rokem +40

    I'm still a beginner, so not much experience to speak from, but 100% my favorite pad holders are the ones who throw back and who insist I repeat a technique if I didn't do it well the first time 🙂

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem +12

      You won’t stay a beginner very long bro, because you have completely the right attitude on this.
      Happy training 💪👌

  • @HasbiksRightHand
    @HasbiksRightHand Před rokem +12

    Trainer Gae is a Legend. Respect. He really wants the best for his Students.

  • @w0ngky
    @w0ngky Před rokem +10

    Superbon has such good control on that high kick but the trust between each other must be on another level because damn! Trainer Gae just lets him connect with instep to the neck

  • @stefgrez
    @stefgrez Před rokem +30

    A high lever fighter from my gym kicked pads with Gae when he was in Thailand. Suddenly he sweeps him and he tears his hamstring lol.

    • @mndeg
      @mndeg Před rokem +2

      :O

    • @miner2119
      @miner2119 Před rokem +1

      was bound to happen anyway in training or in a fight

    • @stefgrez
      @stefgrez Před rokem +1

      @@miner2119 why was it bound to happen?

    • @DersNoNem
      @DersNoNem Před rokem

      @@stefgrez maybe he overworked that part of muscle for a long time. Even I was scared of my achilles tendon to snap because I didn't rest much. Luckily I just started Muay Thai training again, my coach went easy on me.

  • @paulpelle3046
    @paulpelle3046 Před rokem +28

    What an awesome change in your series Gabriel, and really informative and helpful.
    I always call it ‘functional pad-holding’, but that’s just what I say. Most people hold pads like it’s a cardio session, or a combo memory game. That’s not very helpful if you actually plan on getting in the ring. It will also give people a false sense of security.
    I love the rapport these two have. They train hard, and play hard too. A few sessions with Trainer Gae would surely raise any fighter’s game 🙏

    • @frederickdoyon
      @frederickdoyon Před rokem +1

      Spot on!

    • @kevingray4980
      @kevingray4980 Před rokem +2

      Exactly! I had to ditch one of my pad holders for exactly that reason. Pointless 8-10 move combos, the limited defense work was sloppy (I don't want to train to bite every fake), not enough repetition or active feedback on fundamentals, but lots of burpees between sets and "Go Go Go!".
      About two weeks later I was working the bag by myself and bumped into a guy with 25 years experience in boxing and an impressive amateur career. While his student was warming up we were chatting, and he offered to to help me for a few minutes. Night and day.

    • @xxgunslingerxx
      @xxgunslingerxx Před rokem +2

      I just came back from thailand and this was the biggest thing I noticed. I think 2 week in thailand was almost as good as 1 year training in canada

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem

      @@xxgunslingerxx Thailand is different mate! 🙏

  • @thomashanham723
    @thomashanham723 Před rokem +11

    Have always seen his pad holding videos, love how he conditions you physically, mentally and technically. Plus, watching his videos is very entertaining, participating in them probably not so much haha

  • @Jenjak
    @Jenjak Před rokem +14

    I've got one better: What makes you such a great and prolific youtuber ? :)

  • @KevinLeeVlog
    @KevinLeeVlog Před rokem +5

    According to my teacher, Ajarn Chai, Kru Gae is one of the top trainers in Thailand!

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem +1

      Yes, he definitely must be. It would be a dream to have someone like him in the gym. 🙏

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog Před rokem +2

      @@paulpelle3046 💯💯 I am actually traveling to Thailand to train with him soon! You should also check out Ajarn Bryan Popejoy! He is a magician when it comes to pad feeding! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem +1

      @@KevinLeeVlog oooh, you lucky man! Enjoy yourself brother...and stay sharp for those brutal Kru Gae counters!! 🤭😝
      Thanks for the info bro, I’ll definitely check him out. Best of luck out there 🙏

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog Před rokem +1

      @@paulpelle3046 thank you sir! I will be filming his brutal training and post it on my channel. 🤣🤣

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem

      @@KevinLeeVlog very cool indeed sir. I’ll be interested to watch that.
      Yes, just noticed you have a big channel. I’m sure I remember you from somewhere before? Excuse my bad memory.
      I seem to recall you fight professionally or something. Definitely high-level if my memory is correct. Anyway, very excited for your Thailand training brother. 💪🔥🙏

  • @Gzussss
    @Gzussss Před rokem +1

    YES! I was hoping for a pad holding video!

  • @GabrielVargaOfficial
    @GabrielVargaOfficial  Před rokem +6

    I may have mispronounced Gae's name 🙄 I watched 3 mini documentaries on him but his name was never actually said.

    • @Brolylovesme
      @Brolylovesme Před rokem

      Is it possible you can send the link to the full videos of the clips you posted to this video as well as the documentaries themselves?

    • @paulpelle3046
      @paulpelle3046 Před rokem

      I always thought it was pronounced ‘guy’ too, but someone has explained it’s pronounced ‘gay’ in the comments...with some very cool backstory. 🙏

    • @Democrats_are_a_disease
      @Democrats_are_a_disease Před 2 měsíci

      Pronounced just like pay, day, may, way, stay, don't say gay.

  • @maksymilianciesielski9305

    Amazing content Gab, as always
    Thanks a lot

  • @marting.1139
    @marting.1139 Před rokem

    You are the best Gabriel!!!

  • @peterb9481
    @peterb9481 Před rokem

    Good video, interesting take.
    Stuff to learn from.
    Also its good to see him get recognition.
    Probably the best trainer in the world.
    And seems a decent fella.

  • @nathanielgates2863
    @nathanielgates2863 Před rokem +3

    This is my favorite channel for training info 💯

  • @themmaburrito
    @themmaburrito Před rokem +2

    Man getting to do pad work with him in Thailand was an experience I won’t be forgetting

  • @ram_bam
    @ram_bam Před rokem

    This is such a good topic. I learned so much from this video.

  • @goronsaki2174
    @goronsaki2174 Před rokem

    Great vid every time I think of something you upload a vid of it. Been getting better at pad holding my gym is small so we hold for each other and I used to be scared of holding pads thinking it might be causing even brain damage but now I know how to recoil and roll with the shots more instead of absorbing the whole impact and I at least throw a leg kick back and focus on effective body striking

  • @kenaddoh4693
    @kenaddoh4693 Před rokem

    Great points!

  • @kevingray4980
    @kevingray4980 Před rokem

    Thanks! I was just about to request this exact topic😁😁

  • @damienthetexasian6827

    Love Kru Gae! Great video! These are all edicts of Traditional Muay Thai.

  • @AaronRossMusic
    @AaronRossMusic Před rokem +1

    I love hitting pads, I lobe watching videos of people hitting pads. I love the sound the pads make when the holder makes that perfect catch! My favorite thai pad holder has to be Kru Dam Sitmonchai

  • @TheLegendOfMrDGaming
    @TheLegendOfMrDGaming Před rokem

    Solid video! Thank you! 💥

  • @willt2886
    @willt2886 Před rokem +1

    Got to train with gae. Was great, he understands mechanics great. Really helped with my knees and kicks by tweaking my shoulder movement. Even tho he dosnt speak good English he's good at communicating and just a great guy

  • @tonyd5009
    @tonyd5009 Před 8 dny

    I love the content!!!!

  • @paulhurst8113
    @paulhurst8113 Před rokem +1

    Love your videos

  • @rhooka_
    @rhooka_ Před 9 měsíci

    Such a dope video

  • @grimmone6213
    @grimmone6213 Před rokem

    respect his name!!!

  • @fahdbough767
    @fahdbough767 Před rokem +2

    Awsome idea. I would like to see Freddie Roach in this series.

  • @burningknuckle26
    @burningknuckle26 Před rokem +2

    Trainer Gae is the truth. Superbon got a great coach

  • @FamilyFinancialCoach
    @FamilyFinancialCoach Před rokem +1

    I always thought the sweeps were just attention seeking padholders, and they caused too much risk of injury. Good to know they're actually productive for professionals!

  • @Jenjak
    @Jenjak Před rokem +10

    Is it a good sign if I get a bit anxious to do padwork with my coach ?
    I think it is

  • @rylewmma553
    @rylewmma553 Před rokem

    High level athletes for strikers helps, and the sweeps I'd reserve for fighters only. Alot of the people I have worked with want the training and sparring, but not yet sure about amateur fights.

  • @Boltrex100
    @Boltrex100 Před rokem

    5:38 lmao, good save!

  • @wardog5537
    @wardog5537 Před rokem +2

    So funny seeing everyone be positive about the trainer, because I have seen other videos people just rip on the dude for having such an unsafe training regime lol

  • @clintj
    @clintj Před rokem +1

    Trainer Gae is awesome

  • @L2kneel
    @L2kneel Před rokem

    My instructor is from Thailand and holds pads exactly like this.

  • @philangel8097
    @philangel8097 Před rokem

    Good day sir! I want to ask you how do you analyze fighters' weaknesses and strengths?

  • @ahmedalhamadi1231
    @ahmedalhamadi1231 Před rokem +1

    On the time

  • @raymondzellar5523
    @raymondzellar5523 Před rokem +1

    Working with a good pad holder is what I miss most about training.

  • @dragunov5299
    @dragunov5299 Před rokem

    Varga can you tell what workout good if i got covid

  • @mndeg
    @mndeg Před rokem

    5:05 "i won" lol

  • @kawonewilliams1949
    @kawonewilliams1949 Před rokem

    There are a lot of terrible pad holders in my gym. Finding a good one is tough. I believe it's pronounced with a long E. Like Ghee the type of butter.

  • @arkapravakargupta5189

    Please make a five things video on pechmorkot

  • @rikvandeneynde5667
    @rikvandeneynde5667 Před rokem +1

    Yo can you take a look at tawanchai i really like his fighting style
    He Will give suberbon a challenge i think

  • @TheEdzcent
    @TheEdzcent Před 6 měsíci

    Can you do Cristian Knowles

  • @The_Modern_Gladiator
    @The_Modern_Gladiator Před rokem +1

    Who dosen't know this legeng? 😅

  • @moumous87
    @moumous87 Před rokem +1

    Thai fighters and pad holders just love being playful… simulating a KO is just playing, but interesting to think of that the way you do

    • @damienthetexasian6827
      @damienthetexasian6827 Před rokem +1

      Nope that's exactly why we do it. To train killer instinct we act like we get rocked against the ropes and expect high kick, flying knee, etc. to follow up.

  • @Thongsai
    @Thongsai Před rokem

    I'm a Thai Trainer myself who produced Muay Thai and Mma Champions . KRU GAE IS THE BEST 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆

  • @victorl.4795
    @victorl.4795 Před rokem +2

    Apart from sweeping fighters on their backs and possibly injurying them, yeah I agree. Not that sweeping is bad per se, me and my training buds do this to an extent, but since the instagram bandwagon effect, I've seen clips with some nasty stuff I completely disagree to be done in training even if he's a top 3 pad holder whatsoever. But great video as always Gabe

  • @moroteseoinage
    @moroteseoinage Před rokem

    I want to be a great pad holder when I'm an older guy

  • @Stahlvanten
    @Stahlvanten Před rokem

    You announce that name Gai/Gay; no joke!

  • @sargent5150
    @sargent5150 Před rokem +4

    I agree with everything, except the sweeping. There is no need to be sweeping kicks while holding pads. It’s all fun and games till Gae tears superbon’s ACL in training on accident… or even just a casual student.. it’s just too high risk and the sport is high risk enough and should be left to sparring. IMO

    • @closeredge5198
      @closeredge5198 Před rokem +3

      I disagree...if done at MODERATE level, it's super helpful...in Thailand, my footwork improved immensely with this type of pad holding.....in the states , I never get swept, and that was a primary factor in my development

  • @harambo8660
    @harambo8660 Před rokem

    He could’ve been a stadium champion as well if it wasn’t for injuries

  • @danchovanes2612
    @danchovanes2612 Před rokem

    If Gabriel had pronounced his name correctly CZcams would have demonetized the video for suspected hate speech.

  • @antondelacruz9362
    @antondelacruz9362 Před rokem +3

    I dunno man, ive seen lots of trainers throw shots back, but in yt vids, gae is really excessive. If a guy wasnt able to block / dodge or keep his hands up, it is normal to tap him on the exposed body part. If he doesnt learn, pad holder can telegraph more or slow down or something. But gae throws multiple big shots, sweeps people hard and fast, etc etc. That isnt teaching, but just hurting.

    • @jaketheasianguy3307
      @jaketheasianguy3307 Před rokem +2

      Absolutely no one got injured when trained with him. Every videos of him sweeping his students are all on heavily padded floor and every single one of his students just laugh and shrug off the fall like it's nothing. Also Thai pads are very soft, it does not hurt one bit even when you swing it fast at people

    • @antondelacruz9362
      @antondelacruz9362 Před rokem +1

      @@jaketheasianguy3307 of course the stufents laugh. They paid big money to train with him, hes a celebrity, and the students enjoy his brand of training. I didnt say people get injured but that hurting them isnt the same as teaching them.
      That said, you dont know whether they get injured and in fact another comment in this section says gae injured someone by sweeping them. I dont really care about this point but you brought it up.

    • @majstks3333
      @majstks3333 Před rokem

      It is teaching, this type of pad work is meant to simulate sparring or a fight. You'll get swept hard and fast in a fight, Gae has exceptional control too. You have to think, if this guy is producing world champions, then he is doing something right. As for the other people who get personal training with him, well they knew what they signed up for.

    • @antondelacruz9362
      @antondelacruz9362 Před rokem +1

      @@majstks3333 no hurting is not teaching and padwork is not supposed to risk injury but teach. Slamming people as fast and hard as gae does is not appropriate because it is an injury risk regardless of the floor material. He certainly does not have exceptional control because again, he hits too hard for padwork.
      Just because he trains champs doesnt mean he is infallible or that hitting students hard in padwork is what makes them good. And if you insist on this point, well, the vast majority of coaches who produce as many or more champs than gae do not beat up their students in padwork. In fact, the goat coach pippa produced skarbowsky, silapathai, somluck, lerdsila, bill, and saenchai without hurting them in padwork, and anyway jocky gym allegedly couldnt even afford gear back in their day and the fighters trained mostly by sparring. Padwork, much less injury risk padwork, isnt even necessary in combat sport training and was invented less than a century ago.
      Now some people will agree or disagree. Heck gabe himself likes gae. But gabe gave his reasons and these are mine. Im no pro much less champ unlike gabe, but i speak of my own experience and observation. Personally if i were still training, id like gae because i learn faster when im in danger. However ive long since learned that the vast majority of people do not learn well when theyre getting abused, and most trainers at gaes level or higher do not beat up their students in padwork.

    • @majstks3333
      @majstks3333 Před rokem

      @@antondelacruz9362 I agree padwork is not meant to cause injury or harm, but I consider this style of padwork to be used sparingly and only to mentally / physically prepare a newer fighter to test their heart (how fast they get up after being swept or how they react to an unexpected hit from the pads). But I agree for seasoned fighters there is no need for this style unless it's just playing around. And yeah I agreeyou don't need this style of padwork for any future champ or previous champ. But it still holds a purpose in my opinion, it's not just about harming the student. There's still a lesson to be learned.

  • @AroundElvesWatchUrselves96

    Gae = dog in Korean ☺️

  • @redsnflr
    @redsnflr Před rokem

    Lawrence Kenshin did a cool mini-doc on Ajarn("Trainer") Gae
    czcams.com/video/6ghU01LdYFI/video.html

  • @firstnamelastname3473

    Hey I think that dude's Gae

  • @e.g.7977
    @e.g.7977 Před rokem

    I always thought it was annoying, and even dangerous the way he always sweeps and trips the people he holds pads for.

  • @DennisPhoonjaya
    @DennisPhoonjaya Před rokem

    its pronounced GAY.