Integration: The Illusion of Inclusion
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Today we will be exploring the concept, purpose and practice of integration. What was the goal? Did we hit the mark? It seems we are still separate and still unequal. What went wrong? What would need to happen for true integration?
How do we Build and Sustain the Village in a time of Polarization, Segregation and Displacement?
As someone who was born and raised (and currently living) in Tulsa, it amazes me that there is such a conversation about Black Wall Street. The city and the state of Oklahoma has tried its hardest to not talk about it or claim it’s something in the past and we should move on, while simultaneously commemorating the okc bombing, which is a absolute slap in the face to Black people in Oklahoma. Just want to tell you guys that there are still Black people in Tulsa and we are still suffering from the impact of the massacre almost 100 years later💁🏾
@SilverDUBZ to hell with that. Learn about our history on the continent. You know, where our people actually come from.
Did they receive some form reparations for destroying black wall street?
Narcissism Exposed 101 as far as I know they haven’t. I believe back in the early 2000s there was some talk about reparations but it never went anywhere. Just recently, some relatives of survivors filed a lawsuit hoping to finally get some type of reparations. Other than that, the area of the city that was Black Street is slowly being gentrified. There are several black businesses in the area, but not nearly as much as it used to be.
@@kierajae Wow, thank you for that knowledge 🙏
Narcissism Exposed 101 no problem! Glad I could help!
I live in a Black suburb too. I’ve never felt like I belonged in a space until we moved here. We don’t realize how much our connection is important.
BLACK is a colour not person's/ppl
@@peter-panwannabebootyscatchers black, of African descent. We both know exactly what she means......
if you don't feel at home in a black community (suburb) or around you people somethings wrong, over the years after I mover to the southeastern states, I met Black people who act like the was scared to go into some Black areas, I never had any issues in a Black area, around my folks, so there's still some work that need to be done
@@willie417 we still have jealousy and envy among ourselves and we kill each other so I rather be around people that look like me but at the same time I'm still not at ease
@@michealknight2739 there's nothing to fear, just don't be foolish, everyone isn't out here killing people, police department across the country is doing a good job at that, think about this, you only hear about the ones the police kills, what about the ones they shoot who live but are now disabled/handicap?
Now that jealousy and envy is a whole different story, there's something else in the work with that, I've witness jealous/envious people do some strange things, I saw people hurt their own interest, trying to hurt another person, what kind of madness is that?
In 1993, my middle school principal William Green told our school in the Bronx that integration was the worst thing that ever happened to us black people..
I didn't understand until 20 years later.
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I resided in queens and now the BX and yes Mr. Green was extremely right...trust I myself used to hear that until I researched and learned just like you.
This is why they assassinated MLK because at the end he realized this.
Then why you don’t ask for a INDEPENDENT country like Haiti?! Whites would be much better without you. Jared Taylor is pleasing black people to leave .
Muhammad Ali said in an interview years ago"redbirds belong to redbirds, blackbirds belong with blackbirds, bluebirds belong with bluebirds,etc"
Right. At this point, segregation doesn’t sound like a dirty word. I feel safer in a likeminded black community any day. Some of us really desire to live around the same people who want us dead or back in chains. I’m good on all that.
I so agree.
@mynameis mynameis I lived in a mainly middle class Black neighborhood before moving. I absolutely loved it and we never had any crime issues. That’s the type of neighborhood I’m referring to. Everybody has what they need and care about their homes.
@@matrice03 re: "At this point, segregation doesn’t sound like a dirty word." lemme help, per Malcolm X the word you're looking for is not "segregation" but SEPARATION. he did many lectures where he made sure he STRESSED the difference in VOCABULARY and DEFINITION between these 2 words. he did this because he recognized how WEAK Black folks are at understanding the English language (ie, it's not our tongue). take a listen, may be eye opening... czcams.com/video/OADCQPPsHGc/video.html
@Lauren meanwhile Drm Martin Luther King & others were sneaking in & sleeping with Becky chile. Divest & stop covering for 'em
Doc forgot to mention Dr. Amos Wilson ,the "The Falsification of Afrikan Consciousness. A must read for everyone.
... and Dr. Amos Wilson! B1.
@Luke Cage Wow! I didn't mean to hurt anybody's feelings. I just mention a important ancestor. The topic is the illusion of inclusion. So you can look around all day and still be caught up in the illusion. You may think you know but you're really being played on. Books document history and history predicts the future. Peace
How can recommending a book offend someone? Some folks are exhausting... Anyway... thanks for recommendation...
Yup. His is better than all of the ones she rec’d. But his work isn’t shooting for integration. I think she is...
Thank you. None greater then Dr Amos Wilson. Peace and B1
It's about control. The majority want to be able decide where we live. They feel comfortable only when we live in a area that is low cost, low value, heavy police presence and businesses are not black owned.
True because it allows each generation of white folks to have a come up off the backs of our communities and people.
Exactly SUPPORT BLACK BUSINESSES
You mean the global minority!
YEP, AND IF YOU DARE BREAK OUT OF SAID ENVIRONMENT THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER AND COLLECTIVELY HARASS YOU BECAUSE THEY BEGIN TO EXPERIENCE FRAGILITY DUE TO YOUR SUCCESS….SMH
😮 this is awful and sadly enough there are many towns today that are still like that. Smh
@DrJoyDeGruy my wife and I own 160ac of land and we are self sufficient with solar, our own water source and we’re growing our own food. we’ve been try to get family to get away from their toxic environments and come to a protected area. When I explain to them what we are trying to do for us and them they say that’s great but no one is get off their buts to come. This baffles me to no end. My land is in a town that only has 2 black folks, myself and my wife. There are some liberal whites and some conservative whites ( trump supporters). No one has been hostile towards me yet but I’m armed everyday this is an open carry area so they may be afraid to try me.
Well where are you located? And what is the trade off?
Jerome Garner the trade off is not renting, being on your own land, being self sufficient, not worrying if you kids are safe or your significant other is. If there is something we need we make it happen.
RCtopics not what I meant at all, it seemed as though you were saying that you were inviting people and no one responded so I was asking what were you asking in return for being on your land
Jerome Garner ok, we offered to family and select friends to live there for free all they had to do was help keep the land safe I’ll provide the training, help with growing food if they want to have organic healthy food.
RCtopics ok
I enjoyed listening to you intelligent ladies. All the angles that you all hit ... makes you think
In 2005 I was a first year apprentice and the journeyman I was working with hit me with a similar Master/Slave analogy when teaching me how to do the installation.
I was caught off guard too and offended by the way in which he presented it. I was offended by the inflections used to explain the purpose and function.
I’m glad you kept your cool Sis! 🙏🏾
Wow I'm terribly sorry that happened to you!
They like catching us off guard with their shenanigans stay woke
@@JAGTheDiva056 exactly
I went to a Electrician Apprentice course and they used _”Master”_ and _”Slave”_ identifiers for certain electrical parts.
I notice that in the blue collared trades, the officials always seem to find a way to sneak stupid insults into the training programs.
It’s as if they think that people in those tradecrafts are too dumb to pick up on it.🤨
When I say Dr. Joy is my auntie and Bahia is my sister!!! Black excellence without elitism...I'm here for it!
I read "Two Nations" back in the early 00's. I never forgot the lessens in this book. I am a HUGE fan of Dr. DeGruy's. As a Black, social worker in Pittsburgh, PA, I have found that the racism in this town in DEEPLY ingrained and how it informs the culture of my town.
Thank you for your presence. I have experienced racism in the Pittsburgh, PA area just as recently as 2017 and it was scary being harassed by all white males yell n****r repeatedly. It is still not safe in some American towns. I was passing thru doing business driving semi truck.
I love this conversation! So glad that I get to see Dr. DeGruy with her grown amazing daughter that she has poured into! My friends and I have been talking about the challenges around accomplishing. Thanks for thoroughly covering this one!!!
What's her daughter's name?
I had no idea, yet now I definitely see resembles
I thought they looked alike. Great points talked through. Love to be reminded
I love this woman!! Seen her on other channels didn’t even know she had her on CZcams channel!! Subscribed quickly!! Love her knowledge and always look forward to reading or listening to her work!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lord have mercy. I was looking at the video and didn't realize it was her channel until I read your response. I subscribed so fast. Thank you!! I love her too.
I highly recommend her work on Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. She has a FB page as well and weekly Wednesday discussions.
@@Ravenelvenlady thanks ! Just purchased her book! Can’t wait to dig in and get my reading 📖 on!!
I'm so glad I found this channel. I've learned so much from Ms Degury. I love you.
This discussion reminds me how far we still need to go. It's getting harder with so much truths out there.
We are not one species. You can look at us and tell that. You can also look at our behaviors and tell we're not the same.
We ARE one species. We also have obvious differences based on culture, ethnic background, evolution, history and for some reason many people pretend as if none of that matters.
Yep. And just study genetics. They are pushing the "WE ARE ONE AGENDA" like they did integration to save them but it won't work this time.
@@littlegothgirl8869 You are a Neanderthal that has only been in existence for 6000 yrs. I can go on and on. You're not us!
@@CashmereakaCoCo CREE7 broke this down.
I honestly feel safer segregated from white society 🖤
Yvonne Cowherd We had economic and political success in the era of segregation.
Absolutely, I don’t trust NONE of them for a second.
@@dwightlove3704 I AGREE AND WE WERE THRIVING.
SUPPORT BLACK BUSINESSES
They are not white sis they are a recessive species that has only been around for about 6000 yrs, but I feel you.😊
Education. As a black man, I tell people my role isn't to teach the white person about racism. They need to grow up. I say: read a book or have a black person as a friend. That said, I wake up everyday with a mission of fighting this stupidity whenever it pops up. You can call it my ptsd. My friends know better now, after George Floyd. I'm educating them of what "whiteness" means and how race is an invented concept (colorism and featurism is idiotic). It's amazing they've come to agree, can stay. Those who don't, don't want to learn, can move on. All of these people think they knew everything, but have so little understanding of economics, history and its consequences.
It's not our job to teach them anything.
Time would be much better spent teaching your own prople about racism and their cultural history. Outside groups created racism and they steadily working towards their agenda. What are blacks doing worrying about what outside groups do or don't understand?
BLACK is a colour not person's/ppl
Stop being non existent person's/ppl
I don’t teach people to love. That makes no sense. People hate you because you are different. I don’t bother to change that!
@@k.c.5426 Exactly. Blk folk baffles me with that we need to educate ppl that classify themselves as white. If anyone is confusion about racism it's blk folk.
Excellent discussion. Respect to the sisters 👊🏾✌🏾
When people “know” but, pretend not to!... I call it blind, willful ignorance!
Naw that's just lying.
Joy was very patient. 🤗
I know what you mean lol.
Fantastic conversation ladies. Always a pleasure to listen to like minds articulately discuss this very important topic.
I love your knowledge of us. I thank God for strong sisters who stand up for us as a people. Also you two look just alike. Keep winning!!! Peace ✌🏾
I don’t agree what what the sista said about our plight not being any different than other people. We are the only group who had it worse than other groups and still do to this day. Look at Dr. Joy’s face when the sista says that. She’s being respectful but clearly disagrees. Respect to that sista though.
FYI: Bahia is Dr Degruy's daughter. They may disagree on that ,point, however.
Malaika Smith ok cool...didn’t know that sista ✊🏽
We are the Only people on the planet (besides Hispanic) who have ALLOWED our identities to be constantly changed: Moors, Indian, Negro, Colored, Black, Afro American, African American.....I wonder why that is?
Yeah she was tripping big time! Our plight is like non other, our struggle is uniquely and distinctly different!
@@notjustaprettyface she’s an integrationist
I wish to say what's my deepest sincerity,
Thank you,
as you are a National Treasure of the African American community, they will never be words to express the deep gratitude, for all of your years of self sacrifice, and diligent,
I originally thought that there were no other Soldier like you out there, but thankfully I was wrong, researching and quickly putting in the work, I am most happy to report on the other Valic Soldier,
Dr. Carol Anderson,
Dr. Isabel Wilkerson,
Dr. Shawn Rochester,
Nicole Hannah Jones,
The great Griot.
This would be Zoom for the ages, I have learned our history, from these other soldiers and had open my mind with a unquenchable thirst, to know all that I can learn.
May the Lord bless you, and keep you, always, what's love.
Beautiful smart ladies, mom and daughter look and sound like twins, I enjoyed listening and learning, you two have so much joy in your heart 🙂👍🏿
Wisdom...I could listen to the two of you all day . You are amazing, thank you for blessing us with such knowledge and wisdom.
Love you Dr. Joy! Thank you for your commitment and knowledge as it pertains to the post traumatic slave syndrome and its’ effects on our community!🙌🏾🙏🏾😇
Dr. Joy, U have a New,Friend 😊
Love the discussion and the topic and love the way you two ladies feed off each other like twin flames....much love and respect...
We have been totally removed from self, currently we are facing identity crisis and loss cultural history. We have been locked and boxed out of this American economy and made to be permanent servants to everyone else’s dreams and aspirations. Why is it hard for us to unite under these conditions when it’s clear we’d do so much better United.
That's why everything you just said is the reason why we are having a hard time uniting. It's gonna happen eventually but we have to figure who we are again.
Awesome conversation. Great topic and great list of books to catch-up on🤨
Thank you for sharing the importance of kindness and caring as human beings. In an intolerable world we’re losing that value. I sometimes think I need to start being horrid back to people because there are times I continually give and what I get back is deplorable. However, my natural being isn’t inclined in that way and you give me hope. Thank you Dr Joy and Bahia 💜🖤💜
I love this conversation. We have to do something, we have to totally seperate from them and be allowed to heal. I say we do it in africa. I am so tired of all the racism, I am going yo leave get mes some land in africa and have a little peace. I love the idea of getting our own but, I just don't want to fight anymore let them have it. We built here we can do it again in our own land this is the great EXODUS time to go.
This is how I feel. I am Tiered of the Racism my damn self.
Africa the only way.
Amazing discussion and book selection, thanks for sharing!
Great discussion love how you went into dept and cited the books to learn more information🖤
You both are a dynamic duo! Thank you for your wisdom your candor and honesty. You are doing the work of the creator.
I love your videos. I am so glad to see Dr. Degruy on regularly. And Bahia has such a beautiful personality. Thank you ladies for giving us such wonderful content.
All cats are also technically “one species” also but Lions, Tigers & Panthers don’t all get along, they hunt differently & will kill the other in order to feed their own... It is what it is...
Big facts
Love that we were both inspired to approach this about getting people to their full humanity! Love, love, love this conversation for so many reasons!
Thank you both for sharing your knowledge, personal experiences and light! I receive it all, with gratitude!
WHAT how did I not know about this channel. Here now, got my notebook out and ears open
Greetings to you both. Thank you for always showing up and reminding us what we are is more important than what they say we are. I appreciate my healing Wednesday's with you both.
Dr. Joy, you look absolutely amazingly regal.
Bermuda as you know is the majority-black island and very very segregated. Haven grown-up military but after dad was killed in Vietnam my mom chose to bring four children ages 16-7 years of age to Greenboro NC where my dad had bought our home. So, attending A&T State University was the best most important step after how we had been raised around the world. Each summer we would return to the island with my mom's parents there were 13 grandchildren in the same house, on a BLACK Island. It was a beautiful balancing act when we were NOT on island.
Yes, there is a place in Shashamoni Ethiopia, that the Emperor had given to any who want to return to Afrika from the diaspora.
Thank you again for the thumbs up for the week.
Dr. Joy Degruy a modern day Super Hero!
We are not one species of human being according to both science and nature
Human and mankind
@youngal04 because there is no such thing as a god
@youngal04 guess the same reason He allows some skin to soak in the sun, love it and be energized by the🌞with no sunscreen and other skin to burn, boil, fry even with sunscreen...you might need to view how the sun sees you. We aint the same.
Hana Ayo Alemayehu my brain is broken? I need an interpreter just to get through 1 of your .... sentences?) do your own research here is another thing for you to look up ( if you’re capable) skin base is different, one skin has a silicone base while one has a sulpher base.
Hana Ayo Alemayehu I’ll break it down just using logic and sense, just for you, and you can still look it up in scientific papers and medical journals for depth analysis and your own lying eyes. When one goes and get boos drawn “doctors” (which means to falsify by the by) upon examination can tell what stock of people the blood is from, same ( weirdly and remarkably) with ear wax; and skin when all the goo is gone and there’s nothing left but good old bone guess what same thing( wow different to the bone). All one ( a person) has to do is look and not want to be blinded to see massive difference, from morality to physicality.
Glad to see that you have a CZcams channel, just subscribed...
Dr. DeGruy I so enjoyed this discussion; I shared it on all my social media groups. Packed with wonderful information, humor and truth. Thank You.
Thank you! "She decided not to access her full humanity"! I need to begin using this. It is SO powerful!
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You possess a beautiful smile MALAIKASMITH3949
Integration is transcendental. My spirits soar in and out of faces, bodies, through the radio, through another person's thoughts and voice. We are all here. We are all present. We are conscious and we dream. I love your show.
Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome - I look to you for realism and cutting-edge analysis of " white think ".
You look fantastic; don't ever stop teaching.
Props to you; peace and respect.
Thank you for your enlightenment, research and insight. 🌹🌹
I pray that everyone could learn the TRUTH about American history.
Things are not fair when a black man with a Masters degree and is also a veteran still lives in the ghetto works for white men with high school diplomas who live in the suburbs. This is 2020 and also my situation.
Keep your head up brother ✊🏾 as a Black woman with a Masters also, I’ve experienced similar situations.
Start your own small business
Start your own business. “BLACK WALL STREET GLOBAL”. Check out my Podcasts. Apple podcast......Spotify
That only means you are not as smart as you think you are.
They don’t wanna know...cause they don’t care and they don’t have to know.
Thank you so much for doing this and doing so much work for the betterment of all of us, love you both
I agree, we shouldn’t have to explain why we’re more comfortable among our own people.
Never wanted to be "included" mlk wanted that. Nahhh, we can't live together EVER.
love what Bahia said about keeping the disney images away from her daughter! I do that as well! Frozen tried to get my baby all on the loafs of bread and boxes of crackers. Kweli TV is the only place I have found great shows for our kids
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1:03:00 "We rob the world of goodness in that moment and we add to the pollution"
1:00:00Quote from Dr. Martin Luther Kings mom : "You are as good as anyone"
31:00 Unhidden public policy. Segregation by law and public policy. ** It's media, media, media and consumerism. I just listened to a child of an immigrant who moved to the US and she said at first her parents was for black people. But she said as time progress went on her parents started to say black people need to work hard because media is saying this media is saying that. The daughter also said her parents does not have any black friends so this shows you that media plays a huge part for ignorance. This is a cycle.media..the lack of exposure of our excellence increase ignorance
1:05:00. Dr Joy "What i admire most about my children " YES!!!!
Dr. Joy Your videos are transformation for me and not just information. Im going to write this statement down in my book of encouragment. You are remembered for your character Dr. Joy beyond anything else. ❤
Another take home quote for everyone to share that I've read in a book is " If you knew everything about someone, you'd instantly forgive them" These words are healing as well .
Thank you so much my dear beautiful sistas thank you both for continuing to educate us mad respect✊🏾🇺🇸
I'm really enjoying this coversation. This is real
talk! Loving you ladies.
THIS INFORMATION IS EXTRAORDINARY AND PROFOUND TRUTH.🤔😒😕THESE BOOKS SHOULD BE MANDATORY READING FOR ALL OF US.
I have noticed that that illusion of inclusion viz a viz integration is first of all a media phenomena. You see it on movies and TV shows but it's largely iillusion.
True, they only include so far as they can gain from it without true disruption
@@jeromegarner7196 Yes I remember where this Comedian DL Hughley said in an interview that radio is one of the most segregated industries in America.
Just use radio as a metaphor for America. AA are culturally not just geographically segregated from other ethnic and racial groups
Yes, absolutely. The media is a myth factory. The predominant ways that our people are being indoctrinated with hateful antiblack propaganda is through the media and the education system. Without our mass consumption of these two factor we could be doing a lot better.
@@ladybluelotus Not really. you would be forced to look at the reality and totality of your experience and that would be sobering butt unpleasant .
I love learning with you both. Thank you.
The whole “master and slave” oven was a real eye opener! We have ovens like this in my kitchen and I never knew this was the description! I can only imagine the conversation this description would bring in white setting. Those American 🇺🇸 appliance companies knew what they were doing! Frigidaire….🙄
I can only imagine what the white lady electrician’s response was like with white home owners.
For me, integration has been a mixed bag. I lived in a predominantly white neighborhood as a kid and I remember the neighbors always wanting to know what my dad (he’s a retired engineer) did for a living to afford the new boat, and the new cars we had! My father went to work wearing a suit and tie each day, which made them wonder even more. I had neighbors asking me questions about my father every time I played with their kids. After telling my parents, they told me to say my dad just goes to work like everyone else! 😂
Integration was not the goal. Desegregation was. The ability for black people to freely go anywhere they want or need to go. It's hard to imagine now. It was a real thing then.
My son reminded me how I never told them santa was real. I remembered defending myself to other mothers telling them I didnt want my kids to give false appreciation to an old white man.
Thank you so much ladies.
Yes thank you for the knowledge you cared to enlighten us with. This is a channel that I will recommend to friends and family.
I think it should be more clearly explained that one of the primary results of segregation is it made it easier to target black people with destructive policy/practices. In the book Color of Law the author talks about how once you sectioned black people off into specific areas it opened the door for other racist policies. You can have unequal funding for schools because of separate school districts, black areas were zoned industrial so you have factories in close proximity exposing them to more pollution and a myriad of other issues.
The analogy of "The white man's ice is colder" is too harsh on blacks when you have this situation. When as a group you are stuck with all this failure then yes their "ice is colder" because they have all the resources and policies to make it so, not because we as a people are inherently inferior or feel we are.
Thank you for a great podcast. Would you be so kind as to leave a booklist in the description box. I am interested in reading your suggested books. Thank you ! 😊
It's so irritating that we so often take extra time in our discussions to assure non black people that we believe in all humanities and there was only one race and there's no real differences between people. Tell that to the ones crushing and killing us. Whether it's cultural, historical, or mere "superficial" difference in features, hair, skin tone, non atrophied pineal gland, physique...you get the picture? Example if It wasn't important that the figure of Jesus was black or white, there wouldn't be such a monstrous worldwide centuries long effort to make sure he's portrayed otherwise. If there isn't significance difference between the so called races then why are black people continually persecuted for it, and why are WE the ones always apologizing for it ?
This is sooo P WERFUL!! Thank you Ladies! I learned so much, and I will SHARE this info with my family. Please keep this going.
"Don't rob the world of your goodness." That's 1 to grow on 🌿
I’m absolutely floored by the Master-Slave appliance analogy😂❤😂❤😂❤😂❤😂❤😂thanks for softening the blow with your lovely discussion ladies🙏🏾🔥🙏🏾🔥🙏🏾🔥🙏🏾🔥🙏🏾🔥🙏🏾🔥
Dr Joy I appreciate so much your comment that added relevence to the topic. We do not have to move away from black people because we build nice homes. I'm purchasing land in a black area. The "Other woman" seems be caught up in the fact that she is NOW doing well. She cant get over herself. Your contribution during this segnent is rational. Thank you
The other woman is her daughter.
Thank you Black Queens. Excellent discussion.
Thank you so much for this video. Indeed we are already segregated.
What a great and knowledgeable conversation, and still very relevant....
Thank you Ladies this is very informative while being laid back.
Thanks to HBC's.! One has the experience in our own flavor . Administering one's own affairs. Enjoyed Sisters
We were better off separated from them...we are not like them. Period.
Couldn't agree with you more sister and there are other scientists such as our own Dr. Ann Brown who doesn't buy into the 'single creation story'. Again we are letting the whites dominate the narratives using their research. There are just too many strikingly distinct differences within our natural essence and worldviews that sets us apart and even Sigmund Freud contends that there is a vast difference between the Caucasians and Afrikans.... I do think this is a matter for our future Afrikan scientists. Check out this lecture with Dr. Ann Brown czcams.com/video/A1QBVawnWhM/video.html
Bahia, next time ask the electrician to explain the colors of a 120v circuit.
Green = Ground, White = Neutral, Black = Power
#BlackPower
I love Dr. Joy, but I must say, it is sometimes difficult for me to watch some all women panels as they just talk over each other the entire time. This was a very balanced discussion and I enjoyed it.
Thank you both so much for this! I’m a young Black newspaper op-Ed writer and I’m highlighting Dr. Joy’s grocery store story where Kathleen used her privilege to be an ally. Thank you!
YO !!!!.. THIS WAS LIKE A MIRROR CONVERSATION!!!!.. I LOVED IT..VERY INFORMATIVE 💯✊🏿
This was so awesome i could listen to these two amazing sistas for hours thank u so much ✌
Really enjoyed watching this video, particularly the Dr's observation of her pride in the kindness of her children. I agree. What we are presented with in America about what gives or adds to a person's value is contingent upon achieving what descendents of Europe have convinced us is required to establish our existence as valid, worthy even, and that's is not true. Even though the "American Dream" gives many children fodder for how they should live, it is limiting belief. Amplifying the effort and reward that comes from kindness is a truly defining trait. Thank you again for sharing your conversation.
I am in IT (Help Desk) There was a time when connected systems had the "Master/Slave" verbiage. However, this has changed (Because it does not properly convey the relationship) It is called now "Server/Client" I could always tell when I have an arsehole, they would INSIST on calling it master/slave, even if I correct them, it was disgusting.
Dr.DeGruy I saw U 20 yrs ago, Chicago. Mad Respect
It's successfully a mixed culture when the communication stays integrated in mutual respect. Not taking advantage of each other in ways where only one side benefits
When I heard Bahia mention Fisk, I let out a huge whoop and broke into the alma mater! I spent my freshman year at Fisk. This is an excellent conversation. Thank you!
Why did you leave?
I've been a student of Dr . Joy DeGruy from a far...sending from Texas much Love&Respect.. ❤🖤💚
Powerful books, great info thanks.
I came for the brilliance and the purple turban and was not disappointed. If Mama Dr. Joy has taught me anything, it's that cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
So empowering!💪🏽 Love yall
Loving the conversation! And you, Dr. DeGruy are making the argument...for #NoVoting. WE have to #SaveOurSelves using ALL of Our Resources (that includes Black Millionaires); We CAN do it!
And SADLY, w/ a Black Mayor (Kasim Reed) here in Atlanta, Ga, there were Several Black "HomeOwners" who had their HOMES (already paid for) TAKEN by the City of Atlanta under "Eminent Domain"!!! They went to Court, w/o informing the Owners and had the DEEDS Changed to "Atlanta...." as an Owner on the Deeds! This was done in 2019!
I didn’t know Dr. DeGruy had a channel! I absolutely love her work. Instantly subscribed!
I love your work Doc, I have watched severalty of your videos, and read your book TSS, it was very powerful and has influenced me greatly
Amen to this... I love Dr. DeGruy, thank you for this interview!
More solutions less problems. We already know the struggle.
A great book, I'm reading my copy! And no shock, but sadness over the Breonna Taylor (no) indictment.
You two are so amazing!! Miss you and love you, Joy!!💗