HOW TO PLAY ROGUE AFTER THE NERFS - FULL GAMEPLAY COMMENTARY - Dark and Darker
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clicked for the title, stayed for the terraria gameplay
same
w yami
Make it a series where you landmine in multiple games while you progress through terraria
please yes
this.. so many good games that u can play while playing darker now hahahaha
i would watch every second
It would be a legendary series tbh
I would love this so much
loading up terraria is the funniest shit
I thought you were trolling lol.
I literally sharted
I find most guide videos to be redundant or filled with common sense tips, this guide was incredibly informative and I can honestly say I understand the new rogue play style after this, thanks keep
Up the good work
I second the motion
Pickpocket Rogues didn't deserve this 😔
for real :(
they just lurking and stalking when you least expected
I didn't even get a chance to enjoy the pickpocket style Q.Q Gone before I could even try it out
:( i loved ur high resourcefulnes pickpocket videos :( ill miss them 😢
yes they did
Bro forgot to bring 2 rows of hand crossbows 😔
real
@@silent8109man SHUT UP
@@tymur1234 freakmore is following me into my home
my favorite part of this whole video is running jokester cause this class is a complete joke now.
thank god, i stopped playing this game when it was rogue meta in solos. I might actually launch this game now
@@cainliang8302 dont worry youll find the next thing to cry about
@@cainliang8302 I can just tell you leave every door open
@@BestMeme2031 you probably wait at static extracts the entire game
@@cloudyshades8983 Well now I will since Ironmace wants Rogues to play like that now😁. But just for your soft aśś I won’t run invis 😢
This is peak comedy and riveting rogue gameplay lmao
I respect the over 16 minute commitment to the bit.
I don't think it's all that much of a bit. It basically is saying the way you play rogue is to just go play another game. Really weak sauce that the devs did this to cater to the whiniest demographic in the game.
@@ShenMerrick A looot of people were complaining about the creep+landmine meta... Ive been playing rogue since pt2, and were definitely a bit too strong, but this patch was missing the mark completely
@@Kevin..1nah that shit don’t belong in the game. Literally zero skill to just invis
@cloudyshades8983 yes because whiney bitches got every other part of skill expression in the class nerfed. Double jump movement tech, nerfed. Poison builds, nerfed. Duellist builds, nerfed.
@@cloudyshades8983 its an assasin class. you are complaining about the core of the character. sure creep was too strong but now the class is useeless
dude i just got this game and went balls deep into the rogue class and im only finding out now that it was over before it even began 😂😂😂
Lol I feel that..I was lucky enough to experience a bit of the landmine rogue. It was fun as shit, and it was still hard to play. It’s not like ur wiping the whole lobby lmao. Not sure why they made this change, the whole point of the rogue was to make people stay on their toes and that’s exactly what it did. Dumb devs
Literally all they need to do is revert rogue back to like playtest 3 or 4, from way back. It wasn't landmine stupid, it filled it's own niche, and it felt fun to play. It has never felt that fun to play since
1:27 Good comms
Wow! This Guide made me improve so much! I was neophite just 3 games ago and now Im already exemplar! I also made 500k with these tips! Thank you for this guide!!
1. Force class into pure stealth gameplay
2. Absolutely gut stealth aspect of class
3. Don't buff other builds for the class
Donkey ass decision
Stealth and imperceptibility are two different things. Stealth takes effort, skill and strategy-What we had was people either using the damage boost to W key people or being completely undetectable and jumpscaring people. They DID need to change it, but this change is bad-Rogue does not need a nerf he needs a rework. The current see-saw balancing strategy by IM is not working on Rogue, they either need to rework his ambush/hide from the ground up or add new meaningful counters(Lanterns/torches breaking hide ect). Some new content like a poison wheel and actually useful map interactions(Actually good utility abilities which can help the team).
@@subjectdelta5348Just add a damage debuff for 2 seconds after coming out of stealth to avoid oneshotting people and thats literally it. Thats the only real issue this class had, why did they target the stealth😂😂
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia But then the class is literally useless, that's the thing, the only actually good playstyle on rogue is ambush one-shot. They need to actually have other ways to play rogue that aren't just annoying for everyone involved.
@@subjectdelta5348 Couldn't agree more. I in no way deny that rogue was pretty giga busted before this patch but show a lil love to poison rogue or something. It really do be needin a rework
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia The issue I had is that it's not stealth, it's imperceptibility. Stealth would be using shadows, muffling your footsteps instead of outright cancelling them, sticking to blind spots ect. Stealth is incredibly difficult and SHOULD be rewarded for a class like rogue; What Rogue currently has/had was imperceptibility where there was no counter for the majority of classes or ways to detect them.
Take away the stealth classes ability to stealth.
Class dies.
No one is surprised.
Rogue “dying” is healthier for the game than what it was prior to this patch. I think it’s a great update. Also it’s not like it was true “stealth”, it’s not like the average rogue was skillfully navigating the map and ambushing you.
All they do is rat around crouching the entire time around popular spots looking for easy kills. Playing against a rogue is worst than playing a warlock. Class is still fine, you can still hide ina corner and get your land mines if that’s your sorry gameplay you just can’t cheese the entire map anymore.
@@ozylocz4078 all this did was take away their ability to move around. This will make landmine so much worse. They did this before and that's exactly what happened. They're too squishy to fight straight up. Without the stealth the class fails and is forced to landmine.
@@5amura115 they can still move around where tf is this coming from? they’re one of the fastest class ina game where movespeed is really the only thing that matters. No way rogues are complaining about having to actually fight and learn spacing right? They’re not the only squishy class and they also have range.
There is nothing you can say to justify not making any noise while moving AND not being visible. Makes for shlt gameplay and honestly if I don’t see another rogue going forward it’s a great thing for me and most players. So this was a great update imo.
@@ozylocz4078 just say your bad at killing rogue bro it's ok
@@ozylocz4078 Yeah rogue still does a shit ton of damage with ambush it just stopped the trios cheese onto the wizard and kill them for free strategy
this was the greatest rogue guide i've ever seen, shot up to rank 1 the second i finished the video tysm
I hope Ironmace sees this and realizes what they have done
For sure
Do rly good thing for game? Even better if they remove invisibility from game totaly
@@Elmachtronic say you suck without saying you suck
@@user-hc4rr2vb3v lol i killed many of rouges that was trying to kill me with hide. Just i don't want need to care about landmining and let me play without checking every corner
@Elmachtronic that's the whole pont of a "assasin" like character, to always keep you aware and on your toes
When I play rogue I like to try and find the ice biome early so I can get some quick frostburn arrows and a boreal wood bow. The debuff adds a good amount of damage early on.
Good thing darkness is still our friend and people definitely don’t abuse brightness/gamma settings.
I know I do.
Brightness and gamma doesn't help anyways
@@INFJ-ThaneTr gamma kinda does
@@zoro21345 nope, gamma doesnt help. Black pixel is Black pixel
had dozens of people W key straight at me in pitch black rooms. games is already tarkov v.2 with how many people are blatantly ESPing. god only knows how many decide to at least TRY to be subtitle.
thanks for the very comprehensive video on how to play the rogue character post nerf
Good start in terraria, I would recommend heading as far as possible in both directions and just exploring the surface caves for chests for easy gear 👍. Great video
they should just include creep into pickpocket like they did with the belt perk for pots etc.
and then they should add a penalty to either weapon damage or physical power to pickpocket perk as well, so pickpocket doesnt get abused for combat because of creep
(same with hide maybe)
I feel like rouges stealth should work like the wizard invisibility spell where you can move as much as you want but it only last a few seconds.
Lmao landmine wizards are gonna wipe the floor with landmine rouges now
@@turdbergler657 good, let them have their revenge arc
Wizard has countered rogue this whole wipe, why would they need revenge? Other than a handful of druid games I've solo wizarded for this wipe and died maybe 3 times in 200 hours to rogue, whilst killing probably 50 in solos.
They can 2 shot rogue without staff mastery in melee, and light orb + slow means theyre always safe.
Wizards dying to rogue in solos before were either really bad, or building poorly (no light orb in solos)
So nothing changed?
@@adammurphy1458it's possible they got landmined. I'm not a wizard player, but what is your recourse for a landmine rogue? Fist out and hope to god you make enough distance to get away? Isn't the rogue faster? I just don't know. I'm genuinely asking as a noob.
“We did it Reddit, we fixed landmine!”
well, after the nerfs came buffs
@@PSEVDONIM228 and after those buffs come more crying Redditors 💀
Me when the stealth class is stealthy: 🤬🤬🤬🤬
I swear to god, someone said the exact changes they did like two days before the nerf, the devs picked a random reddit comment and implemented into their game...
2:16
Just an fyi, as long as you are running the pickpocket perk, you don’t have to worry about anything on your utility slots appearing 👍
Check the pickpocket perk description if you don’t believe me 👍
Question: Is it okay if I play on an Expert world in Terraria or do you spec Mastermode each time?
If you look closely in the beginning, you can see that his actual world is on Expert mode.
As it is a guide for rouges, it obviously suggests being squishy. Mastermode only.
Terria music goes hard with peek rogue gameplay!
Inc new rogue perk: "Improved Hide Mastery - Removes the outline of hide while moving"
Biggest diss since Kendrick's
I literally have been doing the same but playing chess at the statics
Chess and OSRS here
This makes me so sad. What's the point of "hide", if enemies can still see and hear you?
I think that the audio being added was fine but revealing any part visually is outrages for hide. They should have tried just the audio and tested from there. Now we are back to pre multiclass rouge aka useless now.
Literally just saw a video of a rogue almost face tank kill a tank fighter without getting healed while the fighter was getting healed
@@bolenarrow9286 skill issue on fighter
@@bolenarrow9286What gear were they both? Who was hitting headshots? It's very easy to frame a class as OP but rogue loses all face to face melee fights except against wizard, warlock, and druid if you're both similarily geared hitting headshots at full hp
I mean it wasn't hide, it was invis lmfao
learn to use actual stealth i.e using darkness and you'll be fine
the silhouette is only a disadvantage if you use it in the middle of a well-lit room and people can only hear creep if you're basically on top of them, the class is fine and this was needed
Rogue was the only reason I started playing DND after watching it for a bit. I was about to buy the game, but this changed my mind on buying it when they can just gut your favorite class overnight. Why can't double jump get some love now? Nothing to compensate in other aspects for this gut job on rogue.
IDK WHATS STOOPIDEST...the nerf, my spelling, or the fact that i watched through this from beginning to the end XP....love you repo ❤
Just casually boots up Terraria lmfao
Reminds me of my tarkov extract camping days 🥺🥺inspirational...
It's VERY easy. Just give hide a damage debuff when coming out of it. Perhaps give rogue some more ranged options. Boom. Pickpocket still intact, and rogue buffed in a healthy way.
Best gameplay so far. 10/10 would nerf again
bruv, if you're geared no one is afraid of a rogue, the amount of times i had people chase me down knowing damn well they can two shot me lol.
Imagine being a game developer and thinking you should nerf a class's signature ability to be worse than a consumable item.
Lmaooo this couldnt be more true
@@thew1ngman make now you won’t sit in a room the entire match
@@cloudyshades8983 What are you talking about? The nerf to stealth makes it so that rogues ONLY way to kill someone now is to sit in a corner and wait for them.
Before you could use hide to outplay in fights or move around. The hide + creep nerf basically makes rogue into a class with no strengths. They can't brawl (Low hp + low base damage), they can't poke (Movespeed cap), hell you cant even pickpocket anymore lmao.
The only thing rogue is good for now is free lockpicks. Rogue was near the bottom of the tier list in 3s and pretty good in solos now its absolute garbage. Why play rogue when you could play a barbarian or a fighter and buy invis pots?
@@thew1ngmanyou are talking to an incompetent DnD player. Map awareness is key and cloudyshades clearly doesn’t know how to inspect a player(see if they’re a landmine rogue😭) prior to a match starting. Then, without fail, will sprint into every room and ignore all of the dark corners. Skill issues are why this nerf came about
I wish they had perks that had like a chainlinked effect... e.g. Hide mastery with creep allows you to walk whilst stealth'd but then if you have pick pickpocket it cancels noises as well as obviously being able to troll steal loot.
This is "Family guy's" level of commitment for a joke. 16 minutes for a skit. lmao
Thank you so much for this guide! Im so glad they removed those damn LANDMINING ROGUES! This patch is so great!
If we didn't laugh, we'd cry. Ironmace has shown they have no fucking idea what they want for rogue, just rebuild the fucking class at this point how many times do we have to switch back and forth between these changes?
Nice ! please give us more rogue guide vids
This is what goes on in the head of the avarage rogue landmine enjoyer
He is acting like this didnt happen before nerfs, at least in solos
@@LVOskarliNEexcept it didn’t. Prior to nerf, rogues were atleast utilizing their speed and then hiding and then flanking. Which, if you didn’t know, you can see a player entering hide! Realistically the nerf just made landmine 10x worse, as mostly every rogue has to sit in a corner to have just a small chance of winning a fight. I can understand making SOME noise w creep, but nerfing hide screwed the pooch
Fixed landmine rogue by making landmine rogue mandatory 😂😂😂
The funny thing is that these fixes make players rat even more and not move on the map at all
😂
Makes sense that the new rouge meta would be to play another game
as a wizard main, i fully support these changes.
Just say your a trash can that doesn’t understand spacing
damn, those ghosts almost got your ass. peak gameplay, we need this as a series.🙏
the way you keep composed and not laughing your ass off while commentating terraria is crazy 😂😂😂😂
Seeing the better game, all it did was remind me that there are no slimes in DaD
WHY IS THERE NOT A SLIME MONSTER YET
W rogue gameplay but you need to press ctrl when mining. much more efficient.
My boy made that fight at 8:18 look easy. Master rouge as always.
Real And Realer
Shit and Shitter :(
i love this guy so much. good response to nerf
Amazing gameplay
I thought you’d just install Dungeonborne, firing up Terraria took me by surprise lmao
Anyone else feel like the game has lost something important since the earlier playtests? Sure there were problems and some not so great balance problems, but it seemed so much more fun. Now it seems like they swing so far back and forth so rapidly with changes that if you aren't updating your spreadsheets from the Wiki before you log on, you're going to get smoked?
This is alot like how I play Escape from Tarkov... felt this brother.
that "broo" I've felt that before too.
What screws me up about the nerf, the Rogue works now exactly like the one in Dungeonborne, slightly visible and still audible.
2:13 For a second there I thought you were about to say "You're gonna wanna find a corner like this and cry in it"
And then I continued watching the video
Reminds me of how I used to load runescape while waiting for LoL ques.
Ironhammer have made it clear multiple times that they have no idea how to rouge. they have already nerfed the audio and visual before THEN reverted the changes cause rogue because poopsoup. Here we are again.
I'm not running hide shit anymore. I'll either Rupture Weakpoint/Rupture Cut throat with a full inventory of throwing knives + HCB.
Or i'll just play good ol broken Warlock 😆
Seriously though, love the videos.
can we get a moonlord speedrun next? maybe camping wyvern or smthin cool
HOOOOOLY U PLAY ROGUE BETTER THAN 99% OF PLAYERS RN
Amazing gameplay , sdf nerf rogue harder for more content like that!!
Landline druid is the new meta lmao. Jump from the sky turn into a bear and do 200 damage a hit
This. Players will cry about getting 1 shot by rogues but get absolutely BULLIED by strength Druid meta and even properly geared barbs can 1 shot any of the squishier classes. Ppl just can’t hit headshots on the squishiest class in the game and now we receive nerfs like this smfh
Never thought that the first terraria footage I’d watch would come from a dark and darker video
This new patch really is a game changer for rogues
I never even thought of playing Rogue like this, thank you so much for opening my eyes to the god strat. Keep up the good work!
I'm no game designer, but i feel like Rogue would be much easier to balance, if it's playstyle relied more on the dexterety and speed associated with it's fantasy archetype. Also more fun to outplay opponents with good movement, instead of running them down out of stealth in my opinion
well, i played rogue quite a bit and honestly it's hard to REALLY use movement when your weapon has no range, the only real option was hugging the guy and relying on your higher DPS. If rogue takes the first hit he probably already lost the fight and if he can't reach you before taking that hit everything gets quite hard.
@@niconicoshiexactly. Trash players are what brought this nerf about. Over 100 hrs on rogue alone and it baffles me that players can’t figure out how trash rogues actually are if you just pay attention. The class was already EXTREMELY gear dependent, and now it’s completely cooked.
ironmace has really been braindead for a while
They absolutely ruined what could have been an incredible game
@@members337the game could have never been incredible, it was stolen assets from day one
honestly i enjoyed the terraria gameplay.
cant wait for another one of rogues base abilities and features to be made into a perk
Bro we can play Terraria calamity mod's rogue during playing dark and darker's rogue. That's insane ❤
This seriously made my day
Master mode "OBVIOUSLY?" I'm sorry I didn't realize Rogues were insane
HahaHaha😂 This is the funniest stuff ever, it was legit entertaining to watch Repoze play Terraria
Yo dimo i beg you bro, pls make a non ironic rogue video post nerf? Trying a new build or something to make it work, this nerf is depressing, even a barb is now a better rogue, whats the point of playing a glass cannon that is just the glass part
@@N0buKi I got you
"FULL GAMEPLAY"
3 mins in boots up the terraria XD
Came for tips on rogue. Found The Answer i was seeking.
rotmg in repoze's library??????? this is a glorious discovery. rogue main in rotmg too??
Insane tactic, I need to try this in HR too, wish me luck guys
You can't convince me anymore that the devs don't hate rogue lmao
The sniffle and throat clearing during the silence sent me
Firebox finally did it. And now cleric reigns supreme. Not even landmine can defeat him.
Edit: at least i was used running jokester with poisoned weapon traps and dagger mastery. Pve farming class now…
Why even have invis if u can b seen ? Seems so stupid
Rogue needs a rework from the ground up-I think it's clear at this point that the see-saw balancing is not working on stealth/ambush. Rogues and the community deserve better-either make the skill powerful and add meaningful counters or create/rework skills to allow more depth and skill expression to it. Also more depth to the poison/debuff build for rogue would be nice(Poison wheel when?).
this is the same energy as anthony fantanos limp bitzkit album review
we need a tutorial on the most optimal game to play while playing rogue, one that wouldn't require the games sound to be on so you can hear footsteps.
creep nerf seemed fair but not the other thing
Exactly
Damn rogue still OP AF fr
"Nerf" my butt hole
Try that with any other class. Can't be done
Dome Keeper would make a great side game to play along side rogue 😂 60% off rn too
Great guide but next time you should look out more for those traps. Maybe give some tips on how to spot them
I OMEGALUL'D when he pulled up terraria LMFAOOOOO
As someone who has never played landmine rogue, these nerfs ain't shit. Rupture/weakpoint 4 lyfe.
wait he's cooking af in this vid.
wish they would make rogues able to brawl rather than solely relying on stealth
they are half way there lol. now if only they could brawl
loved every second of it
Wasn't rogue's whole selling point that he can be stealthy silent and invis . with low hp bad buff duration and short range attacks ? with stealth removed it just becomes a close range low hp low buff duration joke xd . What am i supposed to do run naked with a crossbow and throwing knifes hitting people with rupture and running away . Just started playing this game 2 weeks ago 11 hours total all of them in rogue . Was already struggling with the pvp and pve now i cant even creep up on players lmao
Now imagine maining rogue for months… horrible balance change and completely eliminates a class unless you want to play like rezo just did. Players who have no concept of checking corners in this game bitch and moan bc of this, instead of using all the available tools to kill rogues. I understand making them not totally silent, but nerfing hide is acoustic.
THIS
Thanks for the guide man ... i can play rogue too ...
Love the full faced Sarcasm displayed by uploading a full game of extract camping and afking to play another game as a message tk the devs.
Was kind of hoping to find out the audio range of the new creep but good one lol