Zayd and Muhammad's Marriages to Zaynab | Explained by Prof. David S. Powers
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This is a clip from a longer interview I had with Professor David S. Powers about his work on the figure of Zayd. In this clip we discuss the traditions around the marriage of Zayd and Zaynab as well as her later marriage to Muhammad.
Zayd has always fascinated me as a companion of the prophet, and I was always very interested to understand how come he, or his son Usama after him have so little interest within the overall scheme of Islamic History. After this podcast came out, I did purchase Professor's David Powers book Zayd, and to be honest, while it was an interesting read, the conclusion was a little disappointing. A few paragraph at the end discuss the possibility of the verses of Zayd and Zaynab were introduced during the Umayyad era, but nothing really built up to it. It felt like a conclusion that was out of order relative to what was built up in previous chapters.
Overall, I do not regret buying the book, it was a good read still, I appreciated the biblical references/models added, it's just that there was no build up to the final conclusion by the author. Maybe it needs another book where there is a deeper dive on the Abdelmalik ibn Marwan codex and Zayd's story.
Why would god do something like this these cannot be words of a Devine god getting involved with this type of matter. People see beauty everyday doesn’t mean I go and try to marry her. Even Abubakar was reluctant to marry his daughter aisha to mohammad.
Zaynab was supposed to have been the Prophet's cousin. She was a widow. He arranged for her to marry Zayd. I find it hard to believe that the Prophet dd not know what she looked like before he arranged for the marriage to Zayd. It doesn't make sense that he just fell in love with her all of a sudden.
Well it makes sense in the story behind it. He went to see Zayd and upon entering his dwelling, he saw zaynab, half naked in her dressing gown.
Muhammad was always keen on trying out different types of women and when he saw her in that state, his member got activated and he said "praise Allah, the one who flipped my heart for you"
The whole thing is hilarious, Muhammad was a dirty little man 😂
When he saw her with light cloth he couldn’t control his lust as animals
@Anoddtwilightpeople are human and even good people have desires. Desires change over time dont they. It's entirely possible for him to later be interested in women. Being lonely and what not. Humans are human
@Anoddtwilight the hadiths also say he burnt peoples eyes with hot coals for stealing. I can show you all sorts of garbage in the hadith and the seerah is a bias source in the first place. I'm guessing you very new to the academic study on this.
Also I've read the quran over 10 times. It's got alot of problems. Zayd zainab issue is just one issue
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VERSE 33:36:
وَمَا كَانَ لِمُؤْمِنٍ وَلَا مُؤْمِنَةٍ إِذَا قَضَى اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَمْرًا أَن يَكُونَ لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِمْ ۗ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ
وَرَسُولَهُ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَالًا مُّبِينًا
33:36: “If and when clear-cut orders are issued from the divine Government (قَضَى اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ), it is not permissible for the responsible individuals (لِمُؤْمِنٍ) and such groups/bodies (مُؤْمِنَةٍ) to exercise their own discretion (لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ) in carrying out the orders given to them (أَمْرِهِمْ). Whoever of the responsible officials would rebel against the divine Government (یعص اللہ و رسولہ ) will be construed as having gone into manifest transgression.”
VERSE 33:37: آیت : ۳۳/۳۷
وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِي أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِي فِي نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ
وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَن تَخْشَاهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضَىٰ زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا لِكَيْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
حَرَجٌ فِي أَزْوَاجِ أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا.
33:37: “Do remember in this connection the case of the one whom God and thou had rewarded (given a senior position); when you had ordered him by saying:
“keep united with your close ally (أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ) and remain cautious and god-fearing in respect of divine Government’s directives (وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ); you are known to keep those strategic affairs concealed under your personal knowledge (وَتُخْفِي فِي نَفْسِكَ) which the divine Government wanted to be acted upon openly (مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ), just because you fear reaction from some people (وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ ); whereas, divine Government’s disobedience was more liable to be afraid of (وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَن تَخْشَاهُ); and when it was agreed that an increase (or a raise) in the manpower from the present level (زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا) had become an inevitable necessity (وَطَرًا), we had made you join hands with that allied group (زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا) in order to establish a precedent for other law enforcers (الْمُؤْمِنِينَ) not to hesitate ( لَا يَكُونَ حَرَجٌ) in enrolling into their ranks (أَزْوَاجِ) those who seek to be their close associates (أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ), if they may have taken such a decision in view of their mandatory requirements (وَطَرًا). And thus Divine Government’s orders may have been implemented (أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا)”.”
VERSE 33:38:
مَّا كَانَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ مِنْ حَرَجٍ فِيمَا فَرَضَ اللَّهُ لَهُ ۖ سُنَّةَ اللَّهِ فِي الَّذِينَ خَلَوْا مِن قَبْلُ ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ قَدَرًا مَّقْدُورًا
33:38: “Your Supreme Leader (النَّبِيِّ) cannot be blameworthy for carrying out the duties that God has ordained for him. Such was God’s way with those that have passed in earlier times. God’s will is a law which becomes applicable without fail.”
Translation by, Aurangzaib Yousufzai .
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This story always troubled me when i was a Muslim. What a bizzare series of events that required divine intervention to wed a married woman
Particularly since Zayd was called "Zayd ibn Muhammad"
Thank you doctor for another great video
Especially troubling because it apparently led to the abolishing of the useful institution of adoption.
@@momo19991 Adoption is allowed as long as the Adopted party KNOWS they are adopted and KNOWS you are not their biological parents.
If that is the case then you are to care and raise them as your own.
@@momo19991 adoption is not forbidden read more , but its framed you cant inherit name from a man its not your biological father and therefore no ruling applying such marriage from your son by adoption ex wife cause you are not related by blood to that son.
Well, it's a really stupid story made up by someone who is so ignorant of the seerah. If you think that Zaynab who was prophet's own cousin with whom he interacted regularly even before the hijab verses came down was unknown to him 😅. He almost compelled the marriage of Zainab and Zayd to break the discriminatory social customs. And it's quite stupid to believe that he would just decide one day that he wants to marry Zainab...
@@aismail8321 Al-Tabri gives two independent accounts of this and it’s eluded to in the Quran
Story Of The Prophet's Marriage With Zaynab Bint Jahsh | Ep40| The Life Of Prophet Muhammad SAW Series;
for confused muslim just watch the other explanation from our mufti 😊 search for the video with the title above
Very entertaining! Sounds Like a fancy Story invented in Order to make Sense of the quran...😂
Needless to say that Mohammed always changes the rules to suit him and his favorite wife Ayesha has more than once told him how come your god always intervenes at the right time to suit him.
By the way tradition does say that Zaynab wasn’t happy with this marriage because Zayd was a lower class .
What is not mentioned in this video is that Zaynab Bing Jahsh is a paternal cousin of Mohammed.
The more you know, the more you are repulsed from the most obvious false prophet in history.
Are you suggesting, in Muhammad's Meccan society, it was immoral to marry a cousin?
@@chrisazure1624😂😂😂… listening to two ignorant persons speaking about a topic they have no clue about …
Go read some books from people like Karen Armstrong or Angelika Neuwirth so you may learn something .. mind you they are not Muslims..
I get a kick looking at Gabriel’s face when he thinks that he discovered the Gem that nobody has ever thought off … truly idiotic …
Aisha herself witnessed and described Mohammad receiving prophecy. Taking her quotes out of context is a bit silly, and provides nothing to this conversation.
Zayd was a slave but kind treatment of Muhammad to him made him a fan. when father and uncle of Zayd came to Makkah to pay money to purchase his freedom, Muhammad refused to accept any money and announced that Zayd is free and if he wishes, he could go to his family. But Zayd preferred to stay with Muhammad rather going to his father and mother. Muhammad announced him as adopted son. People then called Zayd as son of Muhammad. it was a Pre Islamuc custom according to cultural norms of pagan society in Arabia. But Quran changed the custom and declared that adopted children are not real children and should be called after name of their real father. So people then called Zayd as son of Harith (his own father). This event fixed an important rule in Islamic legislation and jurispudence. Secondly Zainab was Muhammad's cousin. He knew her very well since her childhood. She was not an alien for him. Accusation of Muhammad being fascinated by Zainab's beauty is only a false charge by Christian missionries and orientalists. if it was real, would be definitely mentioned by women of that siciety but never a single mention in any tradition from that time. Muhammad himself got her married to Zayd to fulfil another rule of Islamic legislation. In Islam, free man can marry a slave woman and a free woman can marry a slave man. Although it was against cultural norms of that time, Muhammad himself married slave women to set an examole for Muslims. He offered marriage of Zainab (her cousin and belonging to noblest clan in Makkah) to a freed slave to abolish the pagan custom of dscrimination between slave and free man. But due to some reason, it was not a happy marriage and despite Prophet's advice, Zayd divorced her. Zainab who agreed for this marriage on advice of Muhammad, was now deeply grieved on break up. the most suitable compensation was that Muhammad married himself to her. it raised her social status, becoming wife of the Prophet and chief of Muslim state. She remained very happy in her life and boasted in front of other wives that she was given in marriage to the Prophet by God.
Why on earth would the creator of the universe have such an interest in the sexual wellbeing on one man defies belief. Does not the creator have better things to do, so to speak, like looking after billions of galaxies? The verse "revealed" is very convenient for just this one man. In any case, how does that benefit humanity, or even the 'believers'?
'Bible is corrupt & gospel writers are anonymous'. Bart Ehrman (NT scholar & ex Christian)
Dr Gabriel as a Muslim I really respect your work. However, it’s important to note this story (created by later scholars a few centuries later) is DISPUTED.
Many early Muslims dismissed it. Especially Hanafis dismissed it.
In the same Interview min 58, the Professor also says the earliest sources where Christian. John of Damascus, who categorically stated Muhammad pbuh had a Friend or comrade who wanted to divorce his wife and Muhammad pbuh told him not to (hence the rebuke). Then the verse in Tahlil was introduced that after divorce a man can’t return to his wife until she is remarried and divorced again. This was at the time used to protect women as men used divorce as a way of control.
I hope you also upload this discussion for balance.
The Holy Quran statement by the Allah mentios is truthfull .zaineb was the cousin of prophet Mohammad saw Anhazoor loveso much with Ziad ghulam as thier son .but he was not thier own son according the statement of Allah Anhazoor saw demanded for zaineb relation with ziad and mariage happened .But Zaineb feel that he is ghulam and do not respect the ziad .so they angree with zaineb .zaineb take the divorse from Ziad after some time The Allah informed the Mohammad saw that i marriageyou with zianeb on the arsh and you make marriage her .Anhazoor became very surprised by this wahi Allah again informed that you fullfill my order .After that Anhazoor saw make Marriage with Zaineb rza .
A completely fabricated story. Who witnessed this whole episode. The Quranic text or its assertions do not state, allege, infer, or imply any act of marriage in the relevant verses!!! No attestation is found in the Quran, even in the least, of the tradition-based fictitious story of such a marriage. I just wanted to let you know that no names of Zayid or Zaiynab are to be found there. No mention of an adopted son, no divorce, and no hiding of desires, as falsely interpreted, are to be discovered in the relevant Quranic narration.
Hey there. Do you mind if I ask for your interpretation of the verse then? Sorry just trying to seek clarity. Would appreciate your input
Watch abu layths video on this.
Did the Prophet just over another's man's wife
“in one version the air kkkkind of blew” and Muhammad (ﷺ) could catch a view of Zaynab from behind the curtain. Dolts she grew up with him. Muhammad (ﷺ) didn’t need to “catch” a glimpse of a cousin who practically grew up with him.
If Mohammed existed then why we don’t see any historical and archaeological evidence of his existence or his wife as a businesswoman?! Where’s the archaeological evidence of Mecca? Which museum you suggest that we can find artefacts that found in Mecca?!!!
Another stoobid claim
Islam does not recognise the adoption of male child. The marriage with Zaynab was meant precisely to nullify the practice of adopting male child - not for the reasons these propagandist “scholars”are trying to insinuate in excruciatingly FAKE details.
(33:4) Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: NOR HAS HE MADE YOUR ADOPTED SONS YOUR SONS. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But Allah tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way.
(33:5) Call them after their true fathers; that is more equitable in the sight of God. If you know not who their fathers were, then they are your brothers in religion, and your clients. There is no fault in you if you make mistakes, but only in what your hearts premeditate. God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.
(33:6) The Prophet is nearer to the believers than their selves; his wives are their mothers. Those who are bound by blood have the better claim in the ordinance of Allah to inheritance, than the believers and the emigrants; nevertheless you should act towards your friends honourably; that stands inscribed in the Book.
Otherwise the marital laws remains the same in case of real sons
(4:23) Forbidden unto you are……….. the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins…..
How you marry your adopted sons wife 😂😂😂
Its all nonsense, your getting this from outside of Quran , zayd is mentioned in Quran and its this where people get confused fulana in Arabic means so and so , zayd in Quranic Arabic and Arabic today is plural of fulana , its not a name of an individual
Allah did this yo the prophet when He excused those fid not attend the battle of tabuk without waiting for allah to reveal the truth concerning these men and again when talking to an important pagan Arab Umayya bin. Khalaf about Islam IGNORING the blind man who was Muslim and the caller to the morning prayer but all lovingly and delicately as put in the Quran .. this went on in the Bible with various prophets whom god admonished such as Jonah ,, JOB .. Saul ,, DAVID. And Solomon no biggy Which is shy ghd Christian orientalist bull to discredit the prophet was so shameless David and Solomon had concubines of women in the 1,000s yet not a Lego on there credibity Muhammad and they were MEN heterosexual men e-bike JESUS well let me restrain the reality