Used Hobie 16 buyers guide, what to look for, what will it cost

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Komentáře • 133

  • @steverogers1976
    @steverogers1976 Před 4 lety +40

    Far and away the best Cat sailing resource on CZcams. Thanks JB.

  • @smokinstang759
    @smokinstang759 Před 4 lety +21

    Just bought an '85 H16 about a month ago. I've spent more on repairs/upgrades than I did for the boat. I have $2,.500.00 in it so far. Solid boat and everything is new, not to bad in my opinion. I would of payed more for one in the same condition, this way I have the parts I wanted and i have learned every aspect of the boat

  • @josemariafanlo8716
    @josemariafanlo8716 Před 4 lety +12

    Hello
    Nice video !
    A good way to check an older boat is to lift with the hand one hull from the bow, and look at the other hull how it moves. If both hulls move nearly solid the boat is perfect to race!
    Best regards

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety +3

      thanks!

    • @acidasgtr
      @acidasgtr Před 4 lety +8

      But make sure to check the trampoline tension before. If it is slack, then there is no way it would pass the test. I have seen this hull motion happen on waves on my old h16, checked the pylons, but there was nothing there. I must have been lazy with the tramp. Once tightened, there was nothing moving.

    • @aannddrreeww1000
      @aannddrreeww1000 Před 2 lety

      @@JoyriderTV can I email you with a few pics of a hobie cat 16 I am considering buying? I can’t seem to find your email

  • @ssccscot
    @ssccscot Před 4 lety +6

    A free boat is the dearest boat to buy!

  • @alfonsogerbolini1341
    @alfonsogerbolini1341 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much Joe. I am looking at a 1981 Hobie 16 tomorrow. I am prepared now after watching your video. Awesome tips!

  • @kanet4738
    @kanet4738 Před 4 lety +1

    Specialist, aluminium repair guy. Best line of the whole video :) Thanks for the awesome videos - so excited to get my first Hobie!

  • @Al-sq4uh
    @Al-sq4uh Před 11 měsíci

    I used to have a Hobie 16. It’s stood the test of a ‘long’ time whilst others have come and gone - a lot of fun. Competed quite a bit incl South Shields, Scotland and Cornwall. (Simon Morgan was a rival). I liked your demo of how many ways to capsize a 16. Done them all! The tip I got when I bought mine was if you see the leeward bow starting to go down, just push the tiller a smidgen (but quickly) and the bow will pop up and save a pitchpole.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 11 měsíci

      Nice! Great stuff.
      Simon is still racing - he's a 16 addict like the rest of us!!!

  • @kasken719
    @kasken719 Před 4 lety +5

    This is great! Such good info. Thank you. This one going into the favorites for later. Definitely going to need this in the future.

  • @kevinallan5297
    @kevinallan5297 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent review for of key criteria for buying a H16.

  • @mragjr
    @mragjr Před 4 lety

    My last Hobie 16 was around 1973. Back then anyway there was always a concern about the hook assembly on the base of the mast breaking. Without it, it was almost impossible to raise the mast. Don't imagine the cost being high, but then I never thought or even knew about things like expensive rudder blades. The stock ones always went in the direction I wanted to go.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      Yes of course, the fundamentals are the most important, sometimes it's too easy to loose sight of what's most important whilst being dazzled by fancy rudder blades!

  • @JakeBullit123
    @JakeBullit123 Před 4 lety +2

    Useful video. Had a chance on a 16 a few weeks ago on Ebay, but got outbid at £600. It was quite old though.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety +1

      for £600 if it floats it's worth it!

  • @Funsho97
    @Funsho97 Před 4 lety +7

    Really useful info here Joe. I am glad that you mentioned to take into consideration any extras that the boat may come with that would reflect upon the overall price. When I found my boat, it was a little more expensive than most, but it had a lot of extras like, beach wheels, trailer, cover, wind vane, arriba stick, sail storage tube on the trailer...etc. I didn't mind spending a bit more money for a boat that already had these extras, the beach wheels alone would have cost around 600 US dollars and I knew my wife would fuss about spending so much money on something like that, lol, so I wanted to find a boat that included a few things. As always, good information, great videos, keep up the good work. Happy Sailing!!!

  • @andriystukalyuk1268
    @andriystukalyuk1268 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for so useful explanation.

  • @mkuschmusic2
    @mkuschmusic2 Před 4 lety +3

    Thank You Joe! 👍🏻 😎

  • @dimpol2591
    @dimpol2591 Před rokem

    thanks from France, heading to go and buy one this winter ;) a 16

  • @porgiesplays6655
    @porgiesplays6655 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you so much i was not buying one i got it for free so i used this as a check list

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      I'm happy that it helped! Good luck with your 16!

    • @porgiesplays6655
      @porgiesplays6655 Před 4 lety +1

      @@JoyriderTV i check the bow of my cat and its moving in and out is that good?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      @@porgiesplays6655 not so good - if it's a little bit then it should be ok. If it's a lot or makes a crunching noise then it probably needs repair.

    • @porgiesplays6655
      @porgiesplays6655 Před 4 lety

      @@JoyriderTV Its only a the very front everything else i secure

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      @@porgiesplays6655 maybe if you'd like my input you could email me a short video and i'll let you know - send to totaljoyrider@icloud.com

  • @danielsondavidf
    @danielsondavidf Před 2 lety +1

    Well done!

  • @jamiea9358
    @jamiea9358 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @davidl2357
    @davidl2357 Před 4 lety +5

    Great video joe. Who uses their hobie as a fishing boat? Must be a Europe thing?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety +4

      People with lexan rudder blades

    • @homefront3162
      @homefront3162 Před 4 lety +1

      Joseph Bennett lol

    • @HobieCat68
      @HobieCat68 Před 4 lety

      me! I was going to post the same question as I thought there must be others who do so. I posted recently on the Hobie forums about it. Have a look -
      www.hobie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=65600&p=314033#p314033
      I troll from mine mostly for tuna, wahoo, mahi mahi and spanish mackerel and and have had great success during the autumn winter here in Okinawa Japan. I normally go out on the Hobie 14 trolling skirted squid lures. Had a great day yesterday with an 8kg bigeye tuna and a mahi mahi.
      Also check this video from last year where I hooked up to tuna on both rods at the same time.
      czcams.com/video/dI9JMxUkpMs/video.html

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      @Tim Beacham I know, i've bought 12 of them!

  • @tomladdus9264
    @tomladdus9264 Před 4 lety +2

    I rally want to buy a used 16 but my problem is how to store it. I live near ocean, but when not using it, I would need to store it somewhere and be able to launch easily. It is not cheap where I live, so keeping a boat could get expensive.

  • @amandamoyer7086
    @amandamoyer7086 Před 4 lety

    awesome. Thanks! I'm looking at buying my first sailcraft tommorow.

  • @zoiberg
    @zoiberg Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks! just what I need

  • @sailingeden9866
    @sailingeden9866 Před 2 lety +2

    Learning how to repair fiberglass is very easy and is something that a person can easily fix themselves. Knowing how to point out damage can help you negotiate a much lower sale price.

  • @hobie1827
    @hobie1827 Před 4 lety +1

    One comment to the Mast, if it's not rigged.Shake the Masttop a bit to hear if there is water in it.

  • @Andymac57
    @Andymac57 Před 3 lety

    Excellent vid Joe! Have my eye on a Hobie 16 - but it has sat out in the elements for the past 10-15 years - many soft spots in the decking and hull are scaring me from picking up the boat despite the fact the boat is FREE - need to research how to completely refurbish the innards of the hulls.... I may be taking on way too much.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 3 lety

      It depends on how comfortable / experienced you are working with fibreglass. Otherwise you could get a rough quote from a boat builder.
      If the rest of the boat is seaworthy it must be worth going for (if you have somewhere to put it)

  • @michaelhaksang7900
    @michaelhaksang7900 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks 🙂

  • @dlbro8460
    @dlbro8460 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the tips, super helpful! 👍

  • @crossthreadaeroindustries8554

    Great help - thanks for the share...

  • @user-dc3qp8hm6n
    @user-dc3qp8hm6n Před rokem

    Great video thanks very much

  • @homefront3162
    @homefront3162 Před 4 lety +2

    The Single 👎🏻 Was the guy selling the bad H-16!!! 😉

  • @vk1606
    @vk1606 Před 4 lety +1

    Very good vidéo. Hello to France.

  • @aaronbeck4852
    @aaronbeck4852 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the great videos.

  • @agustinyoga
    @agustinyoga Před 2 měsíci

    Great video

  • @Campbase1
    @Campbase1 Před 4 lety

    All good but, what about all the add-ons? Bucket, trailer, box....etc...it all adds up...

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      and then the personal sailing gear. All adds up!

  • @konstantinnozdrin9400
    @konstantinnozdrin9400 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this

  • @lordsneed9418
    @lordsneed9418 Před rokem

    this video is vital!

  • @vanseventy
    @vanseventy Před 4 lety

    Growing up on these,I always wondered if you an rig the Hobies with regular line. Have you tried to rig the whole Hobie with Dyneema? I always wished those steel cables were regular line to take the injury factor away.. Great book is The Complete Riggers Apprentice. I live in Dunedin,Florida. Been sailing Hobies since the 70’s and looking for another to start sailing again. Too shallow for the foil racers. Thanks for the info Sir!! Just subscribed to your channel.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      Welcome to the global Joyrider TV community! There are a lot of 16 sailors around in your area who hang out here!
      I'll be live later today with fitting the 16 trampoline (part 2 of a 5 part series)
      With regards to the dyneema rigging. I think you're going to get an injury what ever rigging you have on the boat. The 16s from Europe use plastic coated wire for the shrouds which I think gives the best protection. There's a guy in Texas who uses all Dyneema rigging on his Prindle 19 set up by www.colligomarine.com

  • @MrSnownick
    @MrSnownick Před 4 lety

    great video thank you

  • @porgiesplays6655
    @porgiesplays6655 Před 4 lety +6

    Hello is a used 29er for 3.8k aus dollars perfect condition worth it? my last comment didn't come through please respond joe

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety +1

      I think yes for sure that's a good price.

    • @porgiesplays6655
      @porgiesplays6655 Před 4 lety +1

      @@JoyriderTV I found one for 2.4k but it is on the other side of the country for me

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      @@porgiesplays6655 without looking at the boat yourself it's a gamble. In most places there would be haulage firms who could move the boat for you.

    • @porgiesplays6655
      @porgiesplays6655 Před 4 lety +1

      @@JoyriderTV Good thing its like 10 minutes in the car from my house

  • @stevenvachon9745
    @stevenvachon9745 Před 4 lety +1

    I paid quite a bit for my 16 ($7200 Canadian) but it I didn't need to replace anything, not even any of the rigging which I check all the time. It came with everything, EPO's (not 3's but the carbon fiber ones), trailer with Hobie long storage box, beach cart (the duel axle one with the long handle - saw that Wildwind has or used to have one), Harken adjustable main block, and a bunch of spare parts. The only minor issues I had were the downhaul (I upgraded to the 6:1), the trampoline has the course lacing which the gap is pretty wide apart (have to be careful I don't loose things that fall between) and the boat has a bit of a twist when lifting one haul. That would be my question to you Joe. How much far should you be able to lift one haul from the bow before the other one starts raising? There is also some creaking going on. Both hauls are solid btw, no dull spots when tapped on and the posts are solid. Also, is there anything that can tighten play?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety +1

      That sounds like it was a good deal.
      If you lift one hull there's always going to be some movement. The creaking is normal.
      To tighten the boat up the normal procedure is just to tighten the trampoline as much as possible. If there's any space between the pylon and casting you could try putting some thing in the gap to reduce the play.

    • @HobieCat68
      @HobieCat68 Před 4 lety +1

      For getting the frame tighter on the pylons and getting a tighter/stiffer boat there are usually two recommended methods.
      1. Aluminium shims. Use cut up aluminium beer cans for this. Take the frame off then add strips of the beer cans to the pylon. Easiest way I found is to fold the strip over the lip of the pylon and then replace the frame. Should stiffen things up nicely and it is possible to take the frame off easily enough in the future.
      2. Epoxy the frame to the pylons. Drastic in that it is a fairly permanent solution - once they are glued they are on for life more or less so any issues in the future where you'd need to remove the frame would be problematic.

    • @stevenvachon9745
      @stevenvachon9745 Před 4 lety

      @@HobieCat68 thanks for the tips on improving the rigidity. I break down the boat for winter storage every year so I'll probably go for the shim method. While it's assembled maybe it's a good idea to find the not so tight fitted areas? I imagine that because of the twisting movement, the loser spots would be at the front and back of the posts.

  • @Nils_Hammarsten
    @Nils_Hammarsten Před 4 lety

    How do you repair the flex on the hull deck? Can you make a hatch for overnight gear perhaps. 😄

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      Yes, you'd have to get inside the deck so cutting a hole will be needed- a hatch is a good alternative.

  • @PickledShark
    @PickledShark Před 19 dny

    I’ve got an old hobie 16 someone is selling in my area. I’d love to ask you some questions but I’m not seeing your email

  • @Player-fm8gx
    @Player-fm8gx Před 2 lety

    Do this with f18 please Joe

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 2 lety

      Great idea! It's on the list of videos to make.

  • @robertfickley6261
    @robertfickley6261 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the video. When dragging my Hobie 16 out of the water and on to the beach, can I attached a strap to the dolphin striker then pull? (Don't want to damage the boat.)

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      properly better off putting your strap around the front beam by the mast - dolphin striker at the top of the central rod should be ok

  • @justinrenner7491
    @justinrenner7491 Před 2 lety

    I couldn’t find a email to contact you at but I bought a hobie 16 used noticed when I got home that the fiberglass on the back of one hull around where the rudder pin goes in is blown out any ideas for a fix or solution the rest of it is in amazing shape and no soft spots I believe trailering it around is the reason for the break out.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 2 lety

      You can send pictures to totaljoyrider@icloud.com

  • @higsheniguba1238
    @higsheniguba1238 Před rokem

    How to build hobie 16?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před rokem

      I'll be making a new one in the next days but here's all of it so far:
      Hobie 16 building 1 - platform
      czcams.com/video/trSFdRp4tLI/video.html
      Hobie 16 Building 2 - trampoline
      czcams.com/video/DwXibOFBMeQ/video.html
      Hobie 16 building 3 - mast rigging
      czcams.com/video/bnAHIkyec1Q/video.html
      Hobie 16 building 4 - mast up with hinge
      czcams.com/video/VpknsSKFOKY/video.html

  • @bayareablues2255
    @bayareablues2255 Před 4 lety

    He said the word "look" five times in the first 15 seconds. If that was a drinking game, I'd be really f***ed up already! ;-)

  • @PickledShark
    @PickledShark Před 2 lety

    Am I crazy or did I hear nothing about the gel coat?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 2 lety

      I might have missed that yet.
      Gelcoat damage is generally cosmetic and relatively cheap to repair.

  • @davehump3799
    @davehump3799 Před 3 lety

    Do you have a written itemized version of this list?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 3 lety +1

      Not at this time.
      I'll get onto that after the season has finished

  • @AdilKhan-bn7cu
    @AdilKhan-bn7cu Před rokem

    Hi Jo, do you know if any Hobie 16s for sale in the uk? Thx Aram

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před rokem

      I haven't heard of any at the moment - I would check out the UK Hobie 16 page on Facebook.

  • @richardclark2290
    @richardclark2290 Před 3 lety

    hi mate just taking the dolpin striker off a 16 i have the cross member off but the pole won't move dose it unscrew ?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 3 lety

      yes, it might depend on the age of the boat but the ones that we have unscrew.
      Cheers

    • @richardclark2290
      @richardclark2290 Před 3 lety

      @@JoyriderTV thanks mate , yes it unscrewed but we needed to take a part off the lathe to grip it and unscrew it :)

  • @loops99
    @loops99 Před 3 lety

    I'm from Australia and I cant seem to find any second hand sails... any chance someone could point me in the direction of a website that has them ? Cheers.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 3 lety

      This is the best that i can do apart from suggesting ebay or similar - www.hobie.com/au/en/dealers/
      or one of the Facebook groups might be able to help.

    • @loops99
      @loops99 Před 3 lety

      Joseph Bennett Cheers Joe 👍 I'll try and catch you in some of your lives

    • @fran215024
      @fran215024 Před rokem

      Excellent channel, JB. I really appreciate your videos. I’m planning to buy a Hobie 16. I enjoy watching your videos and, who knows, maybe I’ll go to Greece some day and sail with you 😉

  • @ponponprod
    @ponponprod Před 3 lety

    I'm looking to buy a hobi 16 can i have your advice Joseph?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 3 lety

      one for today's Q+A

    • @ponponprod
      @ponponprod Před 3 lety

      @@JoyriderTV I'm plannng to buy a 1994 hobie cat 16 and this catamaran has only been used a few times in almost 25 years and has always been stored indoors for over 20 years. Can the fiber of the hulls deteriorate over time? Can i consider this boat has almost brand new?

  • @homefront3162
    @homefront3162 Před 4 lety

    SO MANY CHEAP H-16's IN CALIFORNIA

  • @squid0013
    @squid0013 Před 4 lety +2

    That or just buy a new beam.

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety +1

      good alternative plan

    • @squid0013
      @squid0013 Před 4 lety +1

      @@JoyriderTV it's the safe one because aluminum is hard to weld as well as compromised. Wouldnt that crack be indicative of a misadjusted dolphin striker?

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety +2

      @@squid0013 quite possibly, more tension would have avoided it.

  • @85LARGE
    @85LARGE Před 4 lety

    450 euro for a simple epoxy injection? What are you talking about Joseph :D

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      I'm talking up to 450 for if you have to pay a boat builder to cut a hole in the boat and reinforce from the inside.
      Epoch injection could work but i was suggesting how much it could cost - worse case

    • @85LARGE
      @85LARGE Před 4 lety

      @@JoyriderTV these boats are not meant to be reinforced from the inside. They are hollow. If delamination is so bad and so spread out that an epoxy injection would not help, the hull is toast and needs to be thrown away. U can gut a hobie 16 only if you have to do a pylon job. There is no other scenario. This is why u see inspection ports on some hobies next to front and back pylons.

  • @harrymurphey2634
    @harrymurphey2634 Před 4 lety

    ... that front crossbar needs to be replaced ... PERIOD!!! ... it can not be welded because the aluminum is heat treated !!!! Heat of welding destroys the heat treat/temper and it will not last. Why did it crack??? The dolphin striker was too loose ... allowing the crossbar to flex/bend (common problem on H-18's) ... Did you just say "ropes" ... ??? LINES!!! ... no rope on a boat ... ever!!!!

    • @JoyriderTV
      @JoyriderTV  Před 4 lety

      Yes, thanks for your advise.
      I've been researching dolphin striker tension as there was no information out there. I foolishly assumed that 'factory setting' of the dolphin striker would be sufficient for the life of the boat. I guess not.
      We had the cracks welded about 3 years ago - it was either that or replace 7 front beams! Since welding they appear to still be in good shape.
      And apologies for my poor choice of words, for which, I have no excuse.

    • @Andymac57
      @Andymac57 Před 3 lety +1

      @@JoyriderTV Harry may want to try decaf... jus sayin,...