Lets Get Real: Analyzing Expectations of NBA Greats

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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
  • Nikola Jokic and his legacy are reeling in the wake of a blown 20 point lead AT HOME in game 7. But how can we measure the appropriate level of expectations placed on all-time NBA greats? One way is to evaluate their level of help versus each other. In this video, dive into a complete analysis of every MVP winner's supporting cast for the last 40 years.
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  • @tassothomas5186
    @tassothomas5186 Před 24 dny +299

    He is still legendary. 1 ring and 3 MVPs is better than a lot of these so called "greats."

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +59

      ESPECIALLY at just the age of 29.

    • @Findyification
      @Findyification Před 24 dny +11

      very true
      and he do it with crazy ass stat line

    • @marcodraven9778
      @marcodraven9778 Před 24 dny +21

      100%, Jokic gave his team a good chance to beat Minnesota, where many critics said Nuggets are going to be swept by them. He took the series to a Game 7. That's MVP.

    • @Tethloach1
      @Tethloach1 Před 24 dny +6

      His teammates dropped the ball, his coach got sloppy not adjusting to the wolves. He has to hold the other guys accountable for sloppy play in the series.

    • @ivannbg6212
      @ivannbg6212 Před 24 dny +2

      ​@@skap_attackthank you again honorary Serbian brother. Thank you for keeping it real. And for defending Jokić when it needs to. Every great player has his ups and down. But our guy Nikola is not blaming anyone and putting teammates or coach under the buss. He will win at least one or two.

  • @sabartransportation4456
    @sabartransportation4456 Před 24 dny +150

    Hopefully the nuggets draft Bronny so his grandfather Jokic can teach him how to be a winner and a man

    • @kobejordan5518
      @kobejordan5518 Před 24 dny +14

      Damn

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny +14

      Bronny should team up with Thanasis, that would be the best duo in the NBA.

    • @chakra.blurrr
      @chakra.blurrr Před 24 dny

      Lebron is a man a better one than you 😂

    • @jessiegomez8209
      @jessiegomez8209 Před 24 dny +1

      Also a choke artist and a real joke.😁One of the biggest defeats in playoff history.And allowed the biggest comeback in a game 7 in history.😂

    • @chakra.blurrr
      @chakra.blurrr Před 24 dny

      @@jessiegomez8209 lmao😭

  • @tyroilsmoochie-wallace
    @tyroilsmoochie-wallace Před 24 dny +157

    Let the haters know Skap

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +40

      Yeahhh, I'm not going anywhere 😉💪

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny +12

      They are starting to threaten with unsubscribe, they just can't swallow those facts, not even after their team won.

    • @chakra.blurrr
      @chakra.blurrr Před 24 dny +3

      Your the hater

    • @tyroilsmoochie-wallace
      @tyroilsmoochie-wallace Před 23 dny +3

      @@chakra.blurrr You're*

    • @FrokuBabayy
      @FrokuBabayy Před 23 dny +3

      ​@@skap_attackYou ever considered the fact that something is more impressive the *HARDER* (keyword) it is to come by?
      With that in mind, who gives two 💩 Jokic didn't have media selected All-Defensive / All-Star teammates during his finals run... a run that contained 3 play-in teams & a #44 win 8-seed in the NBA finals... something Giannis nor LeBron nor Mj had the privilege of facing
      Hes 0-6 against real competition (50+ win teams). Hes playing with statistically 1/10 greatest playoff risers in NBA history (Jamal Murray) . He has a viable double double threat that can anchor the defense (Aaron Gordon) . MPJ is 1/10 best 3pt shooters in the league...
      The fact of the matter is he has more than is needed to succeed in this 🧁 NoD league. Many fanboys can rest assured tho when he doesn't, you'll be there to unapologetically leak all over the floor for him 😂
      Jokic fanboys = LeBron fans

  • @Grievous_
    @Grievous_ Před 24 dny +68

    Curry, Giannis and Jokic have had such similar stories, nobody and I mean NOBODY expected them to become anything or win anything in the league when they were drafted and in the first few seasons! Curry didn’t have size, strength or athleticism so everyone looked him off, Jokic didn’t have athleticism, was told he was out of shape, was told he was too slow, couldn’t shoot, when he entered the league so everyone also looked him off, Giannis was super skinny, couldn’t shoot, was super raw and was unknown and he too looked off by everyone!

    • @KyleCox404
      @KyleCox404 Před 23 dny +3

      Oh, please. Cope harder with that fairytale narrative. "Similar stories"? That's a laugh. Curry, Giannis, and Jokic had fundamentally different paths. Curry had doubters, sure, but he came from a basketball family and had a standout college career. People noticed him, trust me. As for Jokic, the narrative that everyone ignored him is revisionist history at its finest. The guy had skills that were evident to anyone with a shred of basketball insight, but keep pretending he was some undiscovered gem. And Giannis? Yes, he was raw, but anyone with eyes could see his potential. He was a freak of nature, and people knew it. So next time, try not to lump these unique talents into your convenient little box of "nobody believed in them" clichés. It's tired, and frankly, it's wrong.

    • @johnwayne9828
      @johnwayne9828 Před 23 dny +6

      ​​@@KyleCox404everyone saw jokic's talent? Correct if I'm wrong, but we wasnt he drafted around the 50th pick? And take a breath, you seem kinda mad.

    • @KyleCox404
      @KyleCox404 Před 23 dny

      @@johnwayne9828 Jokic was drafted 41st, not 50th, but your point is still ridiculous. Draft position doesn't always reflect talent, especially in a league where scouts and GMs often overlook international players. Jokic's draft spot is more a testament to the NBA's flawed scouting system than to his actual ability.
      Just because he wasn't a lottery pick doesn't mean people didn't see his talent. Anyone with a shred of basketball insight who actually watched him play could see his potential. The draft is full of missteps and overlooked talents, and Jokic is just another example of the NBA's myopic view. So, before you start rewriting history, remember that Jokic's talent was there all along. It just took the league some time to catch up.

    • @johnwayne9828
      @johnwayne9828 Před 23 dny +3

      @@KyleCox404 😂😂😂ok👌

    • @KyleCox404
      @KyleCox404 Před 23 dny

      @@johnwayne9828 You have no argument so you just write ok. These fake NBA fans have no brains.

  • @mirrorportal1587
    @mirrorportal1587 Před 24 dny +185

    I find it interesting that some players, like MJ, Jokic and Kobe are held to perfection by every one of these losers in the media. The moment any tiny detail goes wrong they go crazy. Kobe won game 7 of the 2010 finals and they still mention ”6/24” when he lead both teams in scoring for that game. Meanwhile they give LeBron every excuse in the book when he loses or builds a new superteam. It’s hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 Před 24 dny +17

      Game 7 of the 2010 finals is the ugliest beautiful game ever.

    • @mirrorportal1587
      @mirrorportal1587 Před 24 dny +25

      @Btwixed Carried late? I’d suggest you check out Kobe’s 4th quarter stats. 10 points on 4 shots. He was clearly the best player, while his teammates barely did anything, though that’s nothing new for the real King of being clutch. Carrying his team when they need it. Nice attempt at spreading misinformation though.

    • @shawntalks2414
      @shawntalks2414 Před 24 dny +5

      Now Ik you full of it’s literally the other way around and you know it y’all criticize 40 year old lebron more losing then 29 jokic in his prime off a mvp year what are we talking about

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 Před 24 dny +6

      You need to understand something (not accept it but understand) for lebron james they had to lower the bar. I'll give u an example y u think the league changed the all star format (n the views n ratings have gone down to 💩 since) their "face of the league" was losing to much. Lebron is not synonymous wit winning. He's a lost more than winning especially when it matters most. Look at scoring milestones n how he lost those games.

    • @TeddyKGB12
      @TeddyKGB12 Před 24 dny +4

      TBH, Kobe should have never played after the 04 season. He should have been in prison.

  • @nnj1991
    @nnj1991 Před 24 dny +93

    Last year’s MVP hasn’t even seen a ECF. Jokic is still the greatest

    • @Refreshment01
      @Refreshment01 Před 24 dny

      He did afainst the raptors?

    • @joshuawhite4330
      @joshuawhite4330 Před 24 dny +10

      ​@@Refreshment01 That was only the second round

    • @Refreshment01
      @Refreshment01 Před 24 dny +4

      @@joshuawhite4330 I stant corrected. It was semifinals. Thank you.

    • @TheCosmosAwaits
      @TheCosmosAwaits Před 23 dny

      This years MVP didn’t go to the WCF

    • @ItsMeStrider
      @ItsMeStrider Před 22 dny

      @@TheCosmosAwaits yeah none of the 5 previous CHAMPIONS have either, the point is embiid has NEVER gone to a conference finals, not just this year.

  • @coldsnap5742
    @coldsnap5742 Před 24 dny +98

    1994 Hakeem Olajuwon could once be called the ONLY player ever to win a title with ZERO other All-Stars or Hall-of-Famers and ZERO Hall-of-Fame coaches.
    But then Rudy Tomjanovich was (belatedly, but deservedly) voted in, so The Dream no longer has that distinction.

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +35

      That is a pretty remarkable achievement. The 1994 title is definitely the greatest single season championship run ever by any player when you factor in supporting cast and competition.

    • @mavsfanforever7919
      @mavsfanforever7919 Před 24 dny +2

      Heck if you coach a team with no all stars to a championship, you deserve to be on HOF

    • @stealthiscool
      @stealthiscool Před 24 dny +8

      @@skap_attack 1995 is also ridiculous considering the competition he went up against but of course he had Drexler that season

    • @JJermane
      @JJermane Před 24 dny +3

      He did had Drexler in 95 bro, lol

    • @universityoffree
      @universityoffree Před 24 dny

      @@skap_attack Skap, I like your content and generally agree with you, but this Denver team is much stronger than that Houston team. The first one for sure. Other than that, Jokc should be appreciated. He's still the best player in the league until further notice.

  • @baffourappiah3853
    @baffourappiah3853 Před 24 dny +60

    Despite the loss Jokic still led all players in the series against the wolves in points, rebounds, assists and was tied with Ant for steals while playing against the number one defensive team in the league. Statistically, he was the best player in the series, and until someone definitively proves otherwise, I still believe he's the best player in the world.

    • @chakra.blurrr
      @chakra.blurrr Před 24 dny

      Lebron did this in most of his finals but he’s a bum😂 lebron a baby he yells at refs even tho Jordan dodged let’s target him because he’s better and we know it

    • @indeeeed
      @indeeeed Před 23 dny +6

      ​@@chakra.blurrrLebron is not a bum. Without all the media garbage he is still number two. People are sick of the false agenda beong spread by NBA media constantly. He is clowned because of his ego and that "Lebron needs more help" garbage.

    • @chakra.blurrr
      @chakra.blurrr Před 23 dny

      @@indeeeed yeah I got bron one, this is just what I hear in these comments when lebron averages a 36 triple double and loses it’s his fault it’s like stfu

    • @KyleCox404
      @KyleCox404 Před 23 dny +1

      Those numbers you’re drooling over. Classic case of stat padding. Leading in points, rebounds, assists, and tying for steals in a losing effort is the epitome of empty stats. When it mattered most, Jokic couldn't get his team over the hump. All those gaudy numbers mean nothing if you can't translate them into wins.
      And let's not forget, padding stats against a tough defense might look impressive on paper, but real greatness is measured by results, not individual accolades. LeBron has proven time and again he can lead his team to victory, not just fill a stat sheet. He steps up in crucial moments, wins championships, and makes his teammates better.

    • @cotati76
      @cotati76 Před 23 dny

      @@chakra.blurrrI love it when LeBronze fans cry. Keep it up.

  • @That-One-Spy-Main
    @That-One-Spy-Main Před 24 dny +75

    I think Skap needs to make an in-depth video on when a player actually ,,needs more help"
    Because the media always wants to make us believe that guys like Bron who are always surrounded by a great supporting cast need more help when in reality he just isn't good enough to win and Anthony Davis is actually the best guy on the Lakers team currently
    But Jokic in game 7 against Wolves drops 34/19/7 and everybody in his team outside of Murray(who also only shows up half of the time btw) don't even score double digits
    But with Jokic I never see media people say he needs more help even tho he plays with 0 all stars and a super inconsistent supporting cast

    • @henryriyad5081
      @henryriyad5081 Před 24 dny +4

      It’s bccs last year he
      Made all of them look good

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +29

      That is all I've been saying! Been getting absolutely KILLED in my comments for days now for "defending Jokic". I understand you can't lose a 20 point lead in a game 7. But he has OVERACHIEVED greatly in his playoff career based on the supporting casts he has had. Literally NO ONE EVER could do what he has done with what he has had to this stage of a career.

    • @rrichmond14
      @rrichmond14 Před 24 dny +2

      ​@skap_attack that is pure cap. This team literally won the finals last year. The cope is unreal. Super teams don't work and it's proven. They were well rounded but blew it to an up and coming team

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny +2

      Look Minnesota will probably win a championship, Jokic is solely responsible for taking that series to 7 games. At the end 8 points decided the winner, 8 points that supporting cast decided.

    • @theultimate341
      @theultimate341 Před 24 dny +11

      @@rrichmond14 This is not the same team the one last year why you capping? They lost bench depth and they basically rely on Jokic and Murray playing out of their minds and hoping that AG comes through and MPJ can hit a bucket. This team is good but the bench is not great in long stretches. Look how they perform when Jokic is sitting and tell me this team is the same.

  • @marcosfigueroa4521
    @marcosfigueroa4521 Před 23 dny +9

    MJ only needed one all-star teammate to start winning titles. Joker just needed one teammate performing at an all-star level in last season playoffs to win a title.

    • @strategicthinker8899
      @strategicthinker8899 Před 23 dny

      Bingo.

    • @theresaking7020
      @theresaking7020 Před 19 dny +1

      Scottie wasn't actually an All Star for 2 of Jordan's 6 championships...in 1991 and 1998 MJ won without any all star on his team.

  • @martinofrancois2749
    @martinofrancois2749 Před 24 dny +96

    Jokic is the greatest center in his own era

    • @aircablenetwork8581
      @aircablenetwork8581 Před 24 dny +6

      ...I have to agree. At least post-Shaq. For sure!!!

    • @thehellsong
      @thehellsong Před 24 dny +8

      He perhaps is the best playmaker center ever (which just unusual) but his defense is lacking (which is not common for great centers), I can't even compare him with Giannis, they are too different, Jokic is more comparable with Duncan or Gasol

    • @Tethloach1
      @Tethloach1 Před 24 dny +5

      The most skilled center (foot work, handles, moves, passing)
      The best offensive center (shooting, play making,)
      Humble, great sport, champion, best player in the world, all time great

    • @chauvintookaknee4blm268
      @chauvintookaknee4blm268 Před 23 dny +1

      ​@@Tethloach1this is the best take. They keep underselling him

    • @yungg5703
      @yungg5703 Před 23 dny +6

      This is a weak center era.

  • @thelastflop
    @thelastflop Před 24 dny +27

    not to mention Jokic is the only 3xMVP that the nba and media have made clear they hate and do everything they can to keep him from winning. the refs have allowed other teams to hand check and hack Jokic every series, and he has never had the favor of the refs in a series. even in game 7 the FT count was 30-16 in the Wolves favor while Jokic was getting hand checked and shoved on every possession and Wolves were already in the bonus with 8 min left in the 4th! Jokic ended LeBron's "legacy" and sent the bronsexuals back into their basements which is the real championship imo!

    • @marcodraven9778
      @marcodraven9778 Před 24 dny +3

      100% Jokic and Denver OWN the Lakers and Bron's legacy. When fans talk about Bron, they will always bring up Denver sweeping them, dominated 11x and knocked out of the playoffs 2x in a row.

    • @FrokuBabayy
      @FrokuBabayy Před 23 dny

      Nash is a 2x MVP & historically wasn't 💩 compared to Bryant or Shaq.
      Thats all you need to know how valuable MVPs are. The criteria changes every seaso to benefit a select few... His 1st 2MVPs belonged to the winningest & highest seeded player in the league who cleared as a two-way (Giannis) & his latest belonged to the 30ppg scorer on 50%fg leading the league in stls as a no.1 seed (SGA)

    • @vlad6331
      @vlad6331 Před 23 dny

      A super old Lebron, Wow what an achievement...

    • @mattonkeyz341
      @mattonkeyz341 Před 22 dny

      @@vlad6331 he's only old when gets his ass beat, but when he wins on the backs of overwhelming talent, its, Bron is sooooo great in year 21!! 39 years old!! PICK ONE.

    • @vlad6331
      @vlad6331 Před 22 dny

      @@mattonkeyz341 39 years old lebron james congratulations

  • @LegalLatinoHeat
    @LegalLatinoHeat Před 24 dny +285

    Jokic is still Our MVP!

    • @eghck.push_
      @eghck.push_ Před 24 dny +14

      Facts! 👏🏾💯

    • @kryptochroniconolite7301
      @kryptochroniconolite7301 Před 24 dny +17

      Praising the "loser" is kinda biased...........

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 24 dny +39

      ​@@kryptochroniconolite7301
      Is he a loser for dropping 34/19/7 or did he lose because his team just played bad outside of him and Murray?
      If you watch the game 7
      You realise it's the team

    • @Brickwilliams
      @Brickwilliams Před 24 dny +15

      @@kryptochroniconolite7301how is it biased???????? Is he not the most valuable player in the league bud?????? What’s biased about that????

    • @TRENCHK11D
      @TRENCHK11D Před 24 dny +4

      Shai is the real MVP The nba Cheating for that Fake European to win it again and unfortunately failed to help them advertise in the playoffs 😂😂 Go Ant💙

  • @laurencesotelo1629
    @laurencesotelo1629 Před 24 dny +20

    2004 pistons are quite special.. theres no top 75 player there, beating the lakers who have had multiple players inside the 75 that season...

    • @Amick44
      @Amick44 Před 23 dny

      Yeah and not even Phil could smoulder the dissension on the Lakers. Kobe and Shaq were tired of each other, actually they had been for a while but it just kept getting worse. Payton was past his prime, Malone was two, but he played pretty well overall. But I think he had some late season injuries.
      And frankly, Larry Brown may be even a better Coach than Phil. Yes, even with him leaving jobs and hopping teams regularly, the man can coach basketball like you ever have.

    • @dontrellmayfieldjr2868
      @dontrellmayfieldjr2868 Před 23 dny +1

      It’s crazy that Ben Wallace was undrafted player 4 time allstar with 4 defensive player year awards ,one ring, a Hall of Famer and not top 75 player? That’s ridiculous.

    • @Mike1122.
      @Mike1122. Před 8 dny +1

      Malone was 41 years old and injured and Payton was 37 years old and barely playing. The Lakers were a 2 man show, Kobe who was drained that season by rape allegations forcing him to travel to Denver every week between practices and games and Shaq who was lazy by then.

  • @deepspacejazz
    @deepspacejazz Před 24 dny +11

    it physically hurts me when i see what the murray and mpj contracts look like

  • @SoggySlopster
    @SoggySlopster Před 24 dny +91

    Nuggets without jokic is a lottery team. The fact that he took them to joint 1st record in the ultra-competitive stacked superteam West is alone making his MVP case obvious. He has to play entire games without rest. Jamal averaged 15 for the 6 games on 30% and the rest of the team couldn't even reach 7 points in a home game 7. He needs help. He's the only all star on his team and it shows. But it only adds to how great he is. Imagine if he even had a fraction of the help all these other superstars in the league have?

    • @sergeipohkerova7211
      @sergeipohkerova7211 Před 24 dny +13

      Jokic is basically a very talented high school senior on a team of seventh graders. He can only pull them up so far. He can mask their deficiencies when the competition is sort of okay tenth graders, but if it's a team of other good juniors and seniors, then it's extremely difficult. He can still get them far because he's the best on the court most of the time, but he will burn out.

    • @Brickwilliams
      @Brickwilliams Před 24 dny +4

      Yeah give him all everything anthony Davis who averaged 28-15-4 on 64% shooting against the nuggets while being the best defensive player on the court by far. They would dominate

    • @jaimesilva1990
      @jaimesilva1990 Před 24 dny +2

      Murray is good but so wildly inconsistent. If he had a consistent 2nd option and MPJ had a better basketball IQ, I think they'd be back to back champions. Murray popped off in the first half of game 7, then did nothing the 2nd half.

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +22

      If he just had a perennial all-star, he would have 2-3 rings right now. I'm not even saying a top 30-50 ALL TIME player. I'm not saying a top 10 CURRENT players. JUST AN ALL-STAR!

    • @andreasl_fr2666
      @andreasl_fr2666 Před 24 dny +5

      ​@@skap_attack they have no PG on that team , Jokic has to bring the ball up half the time.
      I hope all the Murray overrating stops now , he is a Monta Ellis tier player.

  • @naveenbalineni235
    @naveenbalineni235 Před 24 dny +7

    Now that's a great Analysis!!! Jokic is an All Time Great without consistent help. He carries his team most of the time. Denver is lucky to have him. And he still doesn't even look to having more help or taking his talents elsewhere. He just goes to work. Respect.

  • @mattchooblink
    @mattchooblink Před 24 dny +7

    Skap giving Jokic a fair narrative. Nice to see the proper story being told.

  • @parawill7074
    @parawill7074 Před 24 dny +11

    Jokic won a title without any all-stars and is only 29 y/o. He still has many years left, so I don't get all the coverage about him as if he is retiring next year after being in the league for 15 yrs. The dude has only been in the league for 9 seasons. The Nuggets lost to a more complete team with a top rank defense who were able to wear them down in the 2nd half. All the greats have lost tough series and Jokic is no exception.

  • @Ssjangel3
    @Ssjangel3 Před 24 dny +24

    Calling the 08 Celtics a cheap ring isn't completely accurate. They were all on the downside of their primes. Not smackdab in the middle of it. That's makes a huge difference and it shows because they could only manage 1 title from it

    • @jbizz80
      @jbizz80 Před 24 dny +2

      Yeah, many people don't seem to care about context in this era.

    • @jordanjenkins1671
      @jordanjenkins1671 Před 24 dny +3

      They did continue to get All-Star selections into the 2010s. Yes they weren't at their peak, but they weren't completely out of their primes either. And it was a weak East they played in. Injuries kept them from competing in 2009 and 2011 so 2012 really was their last hurrah and that's when the talent and hunger of Miami's Big 3 surpassed theirs.

    • @ryansheedy5187
      @ryansheedy5187 Před 23 dny +4

      We won that with doc rivers as a coach that’s worth 5 rings but people aren’t ready to say it

    • @avikellerman4539
      @avikellerman4539 Před 23 dny

      Yes it is a cheap ring imo. Here's why;
      In 2008 those guys were still in their primes. Sure, it was the "downside" of their primes...But they were all still close to their primes at that particular point in time. The big 3 were all in their EARLY 30s. Pierce was 30. Garnett 31 and Ray Allen 32. So it doesn't matter if they got old and injury prone AFTER 2008 because we aren't talking about "after". We're talking about 2008 in particular. And that season they were all early 30s, and still at or near the peak of their powers. They absolutely destroyed the NBA that season from start to finish.
      For me this team is a big reason why the league started going downhill with the "big 3" "super team" era that quickly followed. The 2008 Celtics were the first to do it and set the tone. Before that teams would have 1 big star surrounded by role guys, or 2 big stars maximum....Celtics were the first to put THREE big stars together. At least in the more modern era. People can argue that the 2004 Lakers did it first, but it wasn't really the same thing since Malone and Payton were clearly shadows of what they were in their primes. Not to mention the whole Kobe/Colorado fiasco happened. And the Houston Rockets in 1998/1999 with Olajuwon, Barkley and Pippen were on their last legs...Especially Olajuwon and Barkley. So the 2008 Celtics to me were the first. Not to mention Olajuwon already won titles with Houston, as did Kobe and Shaq with the Lakers. Where as NONE of the Celtic's big 3 had won a title before and they joined forces because the window was closing and they knew they weren't going to win unless they stacked the odds in their favor. Their success in 2008 ultimately set the tone for what the Heat did shortly after with Lebron, Wade and Bosh. Then KD going to GS, Lebron going back to Cleveland to team up with Irving and Love and even what the Nets tried to do (but failed).
      So in conclusion it doesn't matter if the Celtics didn't get a dynasty of championships out of that move. They still win a ring because of it, and won it right away straight off the bat. When prior to this mega team up they weren't even close to being a championship team. So yes, it WAS most definitely a cheap ring. Anytime a group of players plot together and stack their team to the max to boost the odds in their favor...That's a cheap ring. Simple as that.

  • @Nofunleaguesportschannel
    @Nofunleaguesportschannel Před 24 dny +24

    Jokic still the best player in the nba denver needa upgrade their roster 💯🤘

    • @marcodraven9778
      @marcodraven9778 Před 24 dny

      100%, Denver needs to make some moves this year if they want another chance at another CHIP.

  • @archinsoni1254
    @archinsoni1254 Před 24 dny +58

    Jokic Literally did everything he could.
    Jamal Murray, MPJ and all the Denver Bench are responsible for losing the series.

    • @lustglamore9188
      @lustglamore9188 Před 24 dny +7

      although true you could slightly make the case that if jokic hit those open 3s in the 4th his team could've won that game.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 24 dny +2

      Even if those other players showed up you guys still wouldn’t give them any credit.

    • @jaketerpening3284
      @jaketerpening3284 Před 24 dny +11

      2-10 from 3 (particularly considering how open he was on a lot of those misses), poor defense, and honestly poor efficiency from the field in game 7 is not literally everything. Jokic is already one of the top 10 centers of all time. With that comes higher standards.

    • @dg23457
      @dg23457 Před 24 dny +5

      Y’all are now doing the same thing LeBron James fans do after his teams blow games… giving him excuses and blaming everything on teammates when the fact is they were up 20 in the 3rd quarter at home in a game 7! Jokic and Murray should’ve stepped on the Wolves neck and won that game. Jordan in 1998 won game 6 with one other player scoring only 15 because he went out and scored 45 and was cold blooded in the clutch. Jokic or Murray didn’t do that, no excuses.

    • @dg23457
      @dg23457 Před 24 dny

      @@jaketerpening3284exactly!

  • @OrthodoxTsarist
    @OrthodoxTsarist Před 24 dny +51

    Jokic gets criticised, even tho he is one of the rare legitimate all time greats, that played trough even without real help.. can’t wait to see him in the Olympics now tho

    • @chrispolo25
      @chrispolo25 Před 24 dny +3

      Y’all acting like bronsxuals now

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +5

      I honestly am beside myself for the response to Jokic. Just in general. Unbelievable hatred for a guy with subpar athleticism and a trash supporting cast who literally dominates the current NBA.

    • @jaketerpening3284
      @jaketerpening3284 Před 24 dny +3

      @@skap_attack I honestly would be fine with it if they kept the same energy for LeBron and other stars. He's pushing into all-time great convos, which should invite higher scrutiny. But the inconsistency of making excuses for LeBron getting bounced in the first round in 5, blowing multiple massive leads, and not even being the best player on his team is what drives me batty.

    • @kevinmoten6566
      @kevinmoten6566 Před 24 dny +1

      Jokic has never won anything without Murray and the chance he had to do it lebron took him out in the second round

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny

      If Jokic didn't single handedly won that game 5, where he was responsible for 70+ points, this series would be finished in 6 games for Timberwolves.

  • @syrax101
    @syrax101 Před 24 dny +7

    😂😂😂 I’m really surprised this channel hasn’t got 100K subs with content like this. Nothing but facts!

  • @rollandcurtis874
    @rollandcurtis874 Před 24 dny +23

    1:39 Desperate 40-YEAR-OLD senior citizen-LeBron James is refusing to retire because, after 21 years, an ancient 40-YEAR-OLD LeBron James is still pathetically chasing the “ghost in Chicago” aka The GOAT - Michael Jordan. 👍👍👍👍

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +7

      Literally there is nothing LeBron could do at this point to catch Jordan. If we are being real, there was nothing he could after he cheated the system in Miami and won less than 8 titles.

    • @Kmonique27
      @Kmonique27 Před 24 dny

      these two delusional losers hating on a 40-year-olds greatness, how pathetic and scummy you have to be to not be ashamed of yourself hating on a man's success that YOU wished you had 😂😂

    • @Kmonique27
      @Kmonique27 Před 23 dny

      two delusional jealous scumbags mad that LeBron has achieved success in his life, how miserable and pathetic you have to be to make hating on a 39-year-old your whole personality?!

    • @PER578
      @PER578 Před 23 dny

      Skap even with help, u dont talk about injuries for these greats in the finals. Stop generalizing things and give context when its time to give context. If someone's best teammates get injured in the finals and dont play, is that still help?

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 23 dny +1

      @@PER578 lol I don’t even know who you’re talking about. Steph? Lebron? Steph would have beaten Toronto if Durant and Klay didn’t get hurt. BUT Steph would NOT have won in 2015 if Kevin Love and Kyrie didn’t get hurt. So that’s a net wash for curry. And quite frankly he outright stole 2 rings with Durant he shouldn’t have and didn’t deserve. Lebron stole all four of his. So IT ALL EVENS OUT. Curry should have 2 and Lebron COULD realistically have ZERO. I think he would have a MAX of 2 if he never left cleveland.

  • @rollandcurtis874
    @rollandcurtis874 Před 24 dny +42

    We can finally move on to the future GOAT Debates of: Michael Jordan vs Victor Wembanyama, Michael Jordan vs Anthony Edwards, Michael Jordan vs Luka Doncic, Michael Jordan vs Nikola Jokic, Michael Jordan vs Jalen Brunson, Michael Jordan vs Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Michael Jordan vs Ja Morant, Michael Jordan vs Donovan Mitchell, et cetera, et cetera. 💥💥💥💥💥🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀

    • @Sportswatcher588
      @Sportswatcher588 Před 24 dny +3

      Wemby is wild😂

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +20

      LOL we can DEFINITELY get LeBron's name the hell out of that conversation. I am with you!

    • @Johnwis-gp9yy
      @Johnwis-gp9yy Před 24 dny +3

      ⁠@@skap_attackJordan is not only the basketball GOAT, he is one of the best athletes ever regardless of sport. Legacy and impact wise, only Gretzky, Senna, Carl Lewis, Michael Johnson, Djokovic can be compared to him.

    • @Kmonique27
      @Kmonique27 Před 24 dny +2

      keep running ya mouth kid you MJ jock rider 😂😂

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 Před 24 dny +1

      @@skap_attack lmaooooo

  • @LegalLatinoHeat
    @LegalLatinoHeat Před 24 dny +46

    No one could of imagined a "plumber" to win 3 MVPs maybe 4.

  • @VincentNoot
    @VincentNoot Před 23 dny +2

    His humble attitude… he’s my all time favorite. And I’ve been following the nba for 25 years.

  • @andreweffertz1664
    @andreweffertz1664 Před 24 dny +11

    Jordan would definitely disagree with you that his resume is perfect

    • @DemonKing-oi4jd
      @DemonKing-oi4jd Před 20 dny

      That's exactly what I say all the time. MJ is great because he overcame the obstacles in his path. It's like his commercial about missing shots, game winners, and making people think he was perfect, but in truth it was all the hard work unseen. "maybe you just making excuses"

    • @JonathanCarter-do6st
      @JonathanCarter-do6st Před 19 dny

      Yup

  • @eduardogarcia2738
    @eduardogarcia2738 Před 24 dny +19

    He wasnt attempting to get into any conversation, he was attempting to do his job to get home to watch his horses.

    • @jho4977
      @jho4977 Před 23 dny

      Exactly. It's going to be hard to rate Jokic so high when he admittedly doesn't have the drive.

    • @robertl5606
      @robertl5606 Před 23 dny

      Damn this video was ass

    • @robertl5606
      @robertl5606 Před 23 dny

      Thumbs down on the video

  • @martinofrancois2749
    @martinofrancois2749 Před 24 dny +11

    Micheal Jordan is a complete player than any other players in this era

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +6

      STRAIGHT FACTS.

    • @milelemi8725
      @milelemi8725 Před 24 dny +1

      Joker is more complete in offense!

    • @linorestrepolobo3620
      @linorestrepolobo3620 Před 24 dny +2

      @@milelemi8725sure son 😂😂😂

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny

      @@linorestrepolobo3620 4 years MVP, 4 years leading all advanced stats, freak of nature 😘

    • @linorestrepolobo3620
      @linorestrepolobo3620 Před 24 dny +2

      @@Zemlja_je_ravna you just need a functioning pair of eyes to know he is not. Stats in this era are vastly inflated. But what would you know? You must be 12 and haven’t seen real basketball. He is great but can not touch Jordan

  • @liorpapismedov2519
    @liorpapismedov2519 Před 24 dny +6

    Denver is already great with Jokic without a single all star just imagine if he gets a genuine top tier partner

  • @martinofrancois2749
    @martinofrancois2749 Před 24 dny +8

    Jokic and Tim Duncan are easily top 10 centers of all time

  • @SeanAlex-gt6xo
    @SeanAlex-gt6xo Před 24 dny +11

    3:22 Michael Jordan is the standard OF ALL SPORTS ATHLETES, both nationally and internationally. So the debate of Michael Jordan being the best and greatest basketball player ever aka “the GOAT” of basketball is honestly beneath Michael Jordan, yet after 21 years, at AGE 40, these dudes are refusing to retire because they are shamelessly STILL chasing Mike Jordan.

    • @TactileTherapy
      @TactileTherapy Před 24 dny +2

      Jordan shouldve never retired in 94. hed be even furthur ahead

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +6

      I honestly believe no one will EVER surpass Jordan. It just isn't possible. The best offensive player EVER who was the best positional defender in the sport for his entire career...WHILE winning 6 titles in an 8 year span (and he didn't play one of the two seasons in between). No one is EVER equalling that.

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny

      People are making case for Jokic, for best offensive player ever.

    • @CHI-JORDAN-CHI
      @CHI-JORDAN-CHI Před 23 dny +1

      @@Zemlja_je_ravna Because his averages haven't gone down yet because he's only played while young. Look at Jordan's averages during his first retirement in 93. Jokic does not compare and never will.

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 23 dny

      ​@@CHI-JORDAN-CHI Jokic is better playmaker, rebounder and screener than Jordan

  • @ptgw3452
    @ptgw3452 Před 23 dny +4

    35 points, 19 rebounds in game 7. How is this hurting Jokic's legacy because of his whole team combining for 21 points outside of Murray??

  • @MarvinJames
    @MarvinJames Před 24 dny +5

    Nuggets are hurting with Michael Porter's Ridiculous contract, but 🃏 will have to find a way to squeeze every drop of talent out of his G-League lineup

  • @UltimateFrisbeeIsFun
    @UltimateFrisbeeIsFun Před 24 dny +4

    Thank you for being consistent, unlike all those clowns on ESPN

  • @Brickwilliams
    @Brickwilliams Před 24 dny +6

    Much needed video

  • @EllisHCN
    @EllisHCN Před 24 dny +2

    Another fantastic video, Skap! Thank you for all of the time and effort you put in to each and everyone of your videos, it means a lot!

  • @projectaletheia8707
    @projectaletheia8707 Před 24 dny +9

    Skap at it again ! Let’s go!

  • @chongli3007
    @chongli3007 Před 24 dny +27

    The real crime is LeBalco pictured next to all those legends

  • @nortonmalcontent8778
    @nortonmalcontent8778 Před 24 dny +6

    If you replace Robert Parish and Danny Ainge with Bill Cartwright and John Paxson, people's views on those players would probably flip because of how much Bird elevated the play of his teammates. McHale was clearly elevated considerably by Bird's play also. DJ was the main one who was an all-star and all-defensive player before joining Boston. Bird and DJ truly made each other better.

    • @xaviervega468
      @xaviervega468 Před 23 dny +2

      Bird didn't make McHale's post game better. He didn't make Kevin a better defender either. Kevin and DJ were the best defenders on the team. Bird is definitely an all-time great, but people give him way too much credit for his teammates' talent.

    • @nortonmalcontent8778
      @nortonmalcontent8778 Před 22 dny

      @@xaviervega468 Don't recall saying anything bad about McHale's post or defensive skills, but Bird's passing skills and his ability to draw double teams certainly facilitated getting the ball into him. I acknowledged DJs greatness too. But as great as they all were, pretty much the same team went from a 57 win team in 87-88 to a 42 win team in 88-89 when Bird only played 6 games due to injury. Even the Bulls only went from a 57 win team in 92-93 to a 55 win team in 93-94 when Jordan retired after the first threepeat.

  • @sweetstuffer2568
    @sweetstuffer2568 Před 23 dny +1

    I'm so glad somebody else wants to give Olajuwon his flowers. He is criminally underrated all time. He played in the greatest era of bigs and centers including a one year removed MVP Kareem and dominated all of them head to head on the biggest stage. In the post season/ finals he beat: Ewing, had David Robinson about to cry at the podium, Shaq all these guys. It wasn't even a question who the best player in the league was when Jordan retired.

  • @OddJaxx900
    @OddJaxx900 Před 24 dny +1

    This was the greatest breakdown I've ever seen on the topic of all time greats and the help they've had in their careers

  • @user-nj3df6ey6h
    @user-nj3df6ey6h Před 20 dny +3

    George Mikan did win five rings in his eight year playing career and he was the best player in the world for basically his whole career, so I would say that's pretty close to perfect. Only MJ has a better resume and you could even argue that.

  • @chrilpy
    @chrilpy Před 24 dny +27

    I feel so bad for Jokic. His coach and all of his teammates failed him in game 7 except Murray who was awful for most of the series

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +6

      Yep. I will continue to defend him because I don't want him to follow suit of all of the other losers in this era. Like, imagine if Jokic just throws his hands up, says "I NEED MORE HELP" and goes and teams up with Luka Doncic lol. That's what all of the others in this era would do if they were him. Instead he just stays put and ALREADY HAS A TITLE!

    • @fabriciobraga633
      @fabriciobraga633 Před 24 dny +3

      And he saved you twice against the Lowly Lakers or who knows what would have happened, funny how you conveniently keep forgetting to mention that...smh

    • @chrilpy
      @chrilpy Před 23 dny

      @@fabriciobraga633 he did hit a lot of clutch shots of course including the 2 game winners but they wouldn’t have been down double digits in almost every game if he wasn’t so ass for most of them

  • @wxixl
    @wxixl Před 23 dny +1

    You still bring the facts in so many ways it put those on the main stream media to pure shame. Great work Skap.

  • @andybrummel5555
    @andybrummel5555 Před 23 dny

    Okay bro bro bro I've listened to all of your analysis but this one by far is your masterpiece and I love how you turned a don't judge the joker and here's the reason why into a complete spreadsheet breakdown of all the other greats and on top of that being able to point the bums out at the same time so you were literally able in one analysis to literally achieve four different things and I wonder how many people are going to catch it absolute master class analysis consider me both impressed and proud of you on this one. And my respect is not earned easily.

  • @forsaken7976
    @forsaken7976 Před 24 dny +4

    Modern NBA “fans” can’t comprehend this level of analytical examination of the league and its players. Their tik tok brains will implode trying to process this.

  • @ChrisLock-kt6ic
    @ChrisLock-kt6ic Před 24 dny +8

    Another great video Skap!

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +1

      Thank you so much! And thank you for continuing to tune in here and support me. I appreciate you 🙏❤

    • @ChrisLock-kt6ic
      @ChrisLock-kt6ic Před 24 dny

      @skap_attack of course! Content is great and spot on. We need honest sports content! All legacy media (news, politics, sports, etc) is woke and a joke.

    • @sou_galoo8707
      @sou_galoo8707 Před 23 dny

      ​@@skap_attacktou Is hater

  • @uncomfortabletruth2988
    @uncomfortabletruth2988 Před 23 dny +1

    I been following you for a while, this video has to be your best work on this channel. Salute 💯👏

  • @mypeople1stwilliam
    @mypeople1stwilliam Před 24 dny +12

    This is lowkey a response video

    • @student99bg
      @student99bg Před 24 dny

      To what video is this response?

    • @blexusxeno25
      @blexusxeno25 Před 24 dny +2

      Ticket and Sports a fitness Rants.

    • @Brickwilliams
      @Brickwilliams Před 24 dny +5

      Yeah, the jokic hate is very very real, and it’s lies.

    • @arihia45
      @arihia45 Před 24 dny +2

      @@blexusxeno25 errr..i dont think Skap cares about Sports fitness rants. He is insignifcant, Skap is already doing analysis with whitlock

    • @blexusxeno25
      @blexusxeno25 Před 24 dny +2

      @@arihia45 what about Ticket TV?

  • @geert574
    @geert574 Před 24 dny +12

    Joker is Hakeem-ing it out there, just like Hakeem he will only get help when its too late and everyone is old.

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +7

      Hopefully not. BUT, I think you're right. And I can see him ending with only 1 or 2 rings as a result. But despite only two titles for Hakeem, I have him in my top 10.

    • @TV-ob1if
      @TV-ob1if Před 24 dny

      @@skap_attacksame with me. I hadn’t met anyone else yet who had the dream in his top 10 👍🏽

  • @carldavis162
    @carldavis162 Před 23 dny +1

    Jokic is a beast..his play on the court makes him the most skilled big man of all time

  • @choyblack528
    @choyblack528 Před 24 dny +1

    I thought the last video was deflective blaming teammates but this was a good breakdown and you held him accountable good job 👍 MJ da Goat 👑

  • @mikelowrey__
    @mikelowrey__ Před 23 dny +5

    You tried to discredit ALL-TIME greats to prop up Jokic…just shut your page down!

  • @GreenBoy424
    @GreenBoy424 Před 23 dny +3

    Robert Horry (7-0 in NBA Finals) be like
    "Am I a joke to you??"
    😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @frankyteleoise1862
    @frankyteleoise1862 Před 24 dny +1

    This channel is what we need not what we deserve. Thanks for combatting all the foolishness circulating around the internet.

  • @woochitelj
    @woochitelj Před 24 dny +1

    Thank you for this video! I hope that people will share this and that it will reach some of these so called analysts and maybe they learn something about the game they are involved with...

  • @LakeShowRegg
    @LakeShowRegg Před 24 dny +3

    I can respect this breakdown

  • @kkbaby30
    @kkbaby30 Před 24 dny +4

    The haters ain't gonna like this video, 😂! But the numbers and accolades don't lie, as much as they try to ignore them.

  • @japoncik11
    @japoncik11 Před 24 dny +1

    must say really like the way u make these vids very objective and great insight to the game well done skap👍👍👏👏👏👏👏

  • @realtalkwithjordan8026

    Yo this is possibly the greatest, most objective breakdown I’ve ever seen on this subject. Kudos bro. I wish there was a way you could get your content featured on networks like ESPN and Fox sports to dispel guys like Nick WRONG and Shannon Sharpe

  • @TheMostHighPodcast
    @TheMostHighPodcast Před 24 dny +4

    Kobe had 3 at that point none of these other players had those types of accolades and ended up with five Jokic has one ring but great job on holding him accountable. The streets have spoken.

    • @xaviervega468
      @xaviervega468 Před 23 dny

      3 as the second fiddle. Sorry but we can't forget that either.

  • @evandouglas3740
    @evandouglas3740 Před 24 dny +3

    @SkapAttack is this why you say dirk is winner while ignoring his 2007 loss and his 2006 loss?

  • @themiddleagedbaby
    @themiddleagedbaby Před 24 dny +1

    Spectacular video...really well done.

  • @justininglish6356
    @justininglish6356 Před 23 dny

    You've taken some heat lately from the haters, but this post lays everything out. Jokic is THAT good. Top notch work.

  • @martinofrancois2749
    @martinofrancois2749 Před 24 dny +8

    Micheal Jordan and Kobe never ask to get traded

    • @blexusxeno25
      @blexusxeno25 Před 24 dny +13

      Actually Kobe asked publicly to be traded in 2007.

    • @tassothomas5186
      @tassothomas5186 Před 24 dny +1

      ​@@blexusxeno25He stayed though. That's the point.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 24 dny +6

      @@tassothomas5186that doesn’t change the fact that he still wanted to be traded.

    • @holymsophy
      @holymsophy Před 24 dny +3

      Kobe did.
      Jordan quit the team. I say Jordan is worse.
      Dude straight up said "ta ta !"
      😂😂😂
      Pippen was like, I didn't come here to do this by myself!

    • @tassothomas5186
      @tassothomas5186 Před 24 dny +1

      @@holymsophy Revisionist history. That's not what happened. At all. Lol

  • @Johnwis-gp9yy
    @Johnwis-gp9yy Před 24 dny +6

    Edwards is not yet in the same galaxy with Kobe, let alone Jordan. Those comparisons will hurt him in the end. The kid is great but he needs to get real and stop listening to the “media”.

    • @comebackkid44723
      @comebackkid44723 Před 24 dny +1

      He literally objected to the comparison, what are you talking about?

    • @dunkboyxd6618
      @dunkboyxd6618 Před 24 dny +3

      Ant literally told them to stop the MJ comparisons

  • @patrickhenryhansen3633

    Excellent commentary. As always.

  • @bububaba8815
    @bububaba8815 Před 23 dny

    Amazing, in depth video!

  • @rickyorton6634
    @rickyorton6634 Před 24 dny +8

    LeBron Raymone James did much better playing in the NBA’s Eastern Conference. LeBron James is the BIGGEST NBA Western Conference Failure in NBA History - LeBron James: 2019 -> FAILED to make the NBA Playoffs, 2020 -> Asterisk BUBBLE Consolation Prize, 2021 -> LOST in the 1st Round, 2022 FAILED to make even the NBA PLAY-IN Tournament👀😅, 2023 SWEPT 4-0 in the Western Conference Finals, and 2024 Gentlemen’s SWEEP 4-1 in the 1st Round. Now we see why LeBron James went to 8 straight NBA Finals. Michael Jordan locked the GOAT Position at #1. Now ranking Kareem, Magic, Kobe, and Bird ahead of LeBron James sounds very logical. And yes, the basketball world is starting to rank Tim Duncan over LeBron James as well. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +2

      The longer LeBron plays, the further he falls. Which is so utterly ironic because he's clinging to the league to try to pad his resume. It's working in reverse 🤣🤣

    • @stonecold316339
      @stonecold316339 Před 24 dny +4

      In 2019 both LeBron and Rondo got injured. Before their injuries they were 5th in the playoff standings.
      The playoffs in the Bubble > the WEAK ASF competition Kobe went through in 09 and 2010 playoffs. In 2021 LeBron did what Kobe did in 05 which was miss the playoffs.
      In 2022 did you forget the amount of games AD missed due to injury?
      Last year he got swept by the team that won it all just like Kobe did against the Mavs n this year he lost in 5. Btw the majority of what u mentioned LeBron was no longer in his prime 😂

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 Před 24 dny

      ​@@stonecold316339weak asf competition that dog walked lebrons 60 plus win teams in 09 n 2010

    • @sou_galoo8707
      @sou_galoo8707 Před 23 dny

      😂😂😂😂 Where did you see this list? because mostly lebron is the second

    • @sou_galoo8707
      @sou_galoo8707 Před 23 dny

      ​@@skap_attackdebate ou vai fugir?

  • @franciscopimentel5065
    @franciscopimentel5065 Před 24 dny +4

    Got my coffee. Love your content

  • @hollins625
    @hollins625 Před 23 dny +2

    To me, Joker already is an all time great. How many players can top 3 MVPs and 1 Finals MVP? If we are talking about advanced stats one can argue that he even has GOAT potential.
    No player has and will ever have a perfect or flawless career. I think MJ would agree that missing the Finals 9 times is far from perfect and he probably took it personal...

  • @jesuschristsaves9067
    @jesuschristsaves9067 Před 24 dny +3

    Jokic is not done. Faaaar from. Anyone saying Jokic choked is blind or extremely and irrationally biased.

  • @HighWoody
    @HighWoody Před 22 dny +3

    Different generation needs to stop being compared

  • @crotdacrude
    @crotdacrude Před 23 dny +2

    No such thing as a perfect resume...except for 1?
    Bill Russell has entered the chat...

  • @mariareid2013
    @mariareid2013 Před 23 dny

    The research alone that goes into this is a lot, and to go through each player's career as well, I have to give you credit for the efforts you put into your videos it's always factual

  • @ihouse82
    @ihouse82 Před 24 dny +3

    Jokic had a monster game 7. Aside from Murray, Joker had no help. It is going to be hard to win if the rest of team does nothing, even at home.

    • @Refreshment01
      @Refreshment01 Před 24 dny

      Yet they were up 20 in the 3rd quarter. Had jokic shot 40% of those lone 3s it would have been enough. Then amav series would hace been a relative easy trip to the finals. A shame since they looked competent against boston in regular season.

    • @ihouse82
      @ihouse82 Před 24 dny

      @@Refreshment01 I wanted to see Luka v Jokic in the West Finals.

  • @CasualGamerPlays
    @CasualGamerPlays Před 24 dny +3

    This video comes off as kind of a response video to Sports & Fitness Rants and others who criticized your take from your last video but, i believe you criticize everyone in the same manner, with facts and no emotions. Everything you pointed out in your last video was true and that's Denver's role players or the "others" didn't step up. Every star player who has won a championship, had another superstar and role players who stepped up. Denver does not have that, they are basically like the 1994 Houston Rockets. Thanks for the video

  • @adamyoung7999
    @adamyoung7999 Před 24 dny +1

    Awesome video.

  • @10oneluv10
    @10oneluv10 Před 23 dny

    Great video! Lots of info.

  • @oaklandraiders3115
    @oaklandraiders3115 Před 24 dny +3

    Joker is still the man, my opinion. 😮😮 1:16

  • @emmanuelabalihi5747
    @emmanuelabalihi5747 Před 24 dny +5

    Nobody expects Jokic to win every year, but you’re supposed to beat the teams your favored to beat and that’s what he failed to do.

  • @Kevin-dl6nf
    @Kevin-dl6nf Před 24 dny +2

    Might be one of the most comprehensive breakdowns I've seen that was needed. Can't help to believe there is a bit of xenophobia contributing to the jokic hate.

  • @ricardosuarez2707
    @ricardosuarez2707 Před 24 dny +2

    Great video ; context matters

  • @popeshopes9973
    @popeshopes9973 Před 24 dny +3

    Switch Denver bench for lakers bench and they can contend.

  • @rickyorton6634
    @rickyorton6634 Před 24 dny +46

    1:39 How can such a “great” player like a LeBron James lose so many of his GREATEST games:
    How could LeBron James LOSE THE GAME where he scored the 40,000 points AND LOSE THE GAME where he surpassed Kareem Abdul-Jabar and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James passed Kobe Bryant and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James passed Michael Jordan and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James scored 35,000 and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James scored 30,000??
    How can you dedicate this 2023-2024 NBA season to your recovering son and LOSE THE FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON, and LOSE THE GAME on your birthday and LOSE THE GAME on the Kobe Bryant Statue Unveiling Day, and now LOSE THE GAME in which you scored 40,000 LONGEVITY points???? I actually feel sorry for LeBron James. 🤦‍♂️

    • @ricardotorres1527
      @ricardotorres1527 Před 24 dny +7

      all those loses on record breaking days ... the universe is funny 😂🤣

    • @Kmonique27
      @Kmonique27 Před 24 dny +5

      ''sorry'' my ass if your writing 5 paragraph comment criticizing LeBron's achievements 😂😂

    • @rrichmond14
      @rrichmond14 Před 24 dny

      You are obsessed with the man

    • @jolli4116
      @jolli4116 Před 24 dny +2

      He lose the greatest games cuz he needs more great players to win.

    • @jolli4116
      @jolli4116 Před 24 dny +1

      Don’t be sorry cuz his name is LoseBron for a reason.

  • @clarissawestbrook2203
    @clarissawestbrook2203 Před 23 dny

    This was an insightful video. ❤❤❤❤

  • @Unitas19
    @Unitas19 Před 24 dny

    Great video!

  • @ninka69
    @ninka69 Před 24 dny +3

    Jokic played good against Timberwolves. It's not his fault that he plays with bums. This shows how much he carried Nuggets last year.

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +3

      That is all I'm saying. I'm getting eaten alive for my stance on him. I don't think its ok to blow 20 point leads in game 7s. I think there should be some negative ramifications for him. BUT, he has SUBSTANTIALLY overachieved in LITERALLY every way throughout his entire career.

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny +2

      Denver rely on him to do everything. That is not a problem unless they face the best defense in the league and rest of the supporting cast can't do anything. Lets be real that game 7 could go either way, supporting cast decided the winner.

    • @Refreshment01
      @Refreshment01 Před 24 dny

      Stop calling them bums. Thats not true.

    • @brazo9338
      @brazo9338 Před 23 dny

      Deja vu huh

  • @sabartransportation4456
    @sabartransportation4456 Před 24 dny +16

    Tim Duncan lowkey top 5

  • @vincentallen1318
    @vincentallen1318 Před 23 dny

    Very legit argument/video & another example of why I stopped watching legacy media NBA analysis years ago. Salute to Skap Attack.

  • @LordPist65
    @LordPist65 Před 23 dny

    This is arguably the most impressive stat about this part of Jokic's career.

  • @givem110
    @givem110 Před 24 dny +3

    It's shows how tribalism is more important to NBA fans. The guy has been the best player in the world for 5 years with not much help. Kobe had some spectacular failures like 2004. And lebron lost 3 years in a row when his team was favored. Jokic has done it once.

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +1

      The nuggets shouldn't have even been favored in that series lol. EVERY NBA PLAYER has failed. Had bad moments. But the level of expectation on him right now is unfair.

  • @myleekb
    @myleekb Před 24 dny +4

    Skap on that Floyd Mayweather type defense for Jokic rn

    • @skap_attack
      @skap_attack  Před 24 dny +1

      LOL this is my last Jokic centric video. I just think my case was getting misconstrued so wanted to lay it out in entirety before I lay this topic to rest.

  • @jd1366
    @jd1366 Před 23 dny

    Great analysis.

  • @jermo1213
    @jermo1213 Před 24 dny +1

    There's MJ, and everyone else. That's just a fact man.

  • @brucelston
    @brucelston Před 24 dny +9

    Jokic just needs more help

    • @nikolabrasanac1656
      @nikolabrasanac1656 Před 24 dny +2

      and im afraid he's never going to get any and be forgotten

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před 24 dny

      That Booth guy is killing them, Bruce Brown was nice pick up, CB was ok when they needed defense, but he did nothing for this season, guy should be replaced honestly.

  • @martinofrancois2749
    @martinofrancois2749 Před 24 dny +10

    Jokic is better center than Shaq in his prime

    • @arealone7863
      @arealone7863 Před 24 dny +3

      Bro don't be disrespectful

    • @jedibattlemasterkos
      @jedibattlemasterkos Před 24 dny

      Idk bro

    • @TV-ob1if
      @TV-ob1if Před 24 dny

      @@arealone7863it may not be respectful but he’s absolutely right. Jokic is a complete player with an imminently higher iq . And makes his teams waaaaaay better.

    • @xaviervega468
      @xaviervega468 Před 23 dny

      Ummm. NO. Shaq is the last player to 3 peat and is the last player have 3 straight Finals MVP's. Jokic ain't close to that yet.

    • @TV-ob1if
      @TV-ob1if Před 23 dny

      @@xaviervega468 false. jokic has 3 regular season MVP's and has imminently higher IQ than Shaq would ever dream of having. Sorry buddy, Jokic is superior to Shaq and anybody with a modicum of basketball intelligence knows this.