Jairo Droz Evan White was the original bassist too. Also, David Arthur did clean vocals on Shadows Are Security, not Clint Norris but Clint did it live.
This is the lineup that got us here. Once in a lifetime kind of thing. Tim is brutal on the vocals, u can feel every emotion word lyric passion, josh gives it emotion with his bass, voice, breakdowns prechorus and choruses, Phil obliterates new riffs causing a blackout worldwide, and nick goes north korea with the solos, and jordan keeps it all together steady playing at 350 bpm without breaking a sweat, while also causing supernova with that amazing beard lol
I really feel for you, Nick. From what everyone says, you're one of the nicest dudes in metal. I can't imagine what you must have gone through to feel that kind of hatred. I'm glad you're finally able to start making peace with all of this.
His cousins are my god-brothers so we've hung out a few times. He really is a super nice dude. It sucked seeing what Nick's family had to go through with what happened with Tim.
If you mute the sound when Jordan Mancino is talking you would almost thing they are just sitting there silently waiting for a bird to come out of his beard. You would have no idea his mouth is moving.
Wow. You can really tell that they're still struggling. There's awkwardness between them. Resentment, lots of resentment. Broken hearts, and a feeling of not knowing the other person. A feeling of longing, and shame, and guilt, but also gratitude, hope, acceptance, and forgiveness. These guys are doing something special here. They might not even know exactly themselves where they're going as a group right now, but they're doing good things. I wish them all the best, and may they once again build a great friendship as a group.
The court and punishment systems really did these guys a disservice and let everything fester a lot more which was avoidable had they given these people the chance to sort things out and clear misunderstandings. Tim was not a dark and evil person as an individual and identity, he makes it clear he's the opposite than he was in that moment, it was a very dark fundamental area in his life where it went too wrong.
@@ThBlueSalamander Yeah but it still seems odd that they split up now. Sad but it is what it is I guess, and who knows what goes on behind the scenes. I can still go back and listen to the albums they made together.
They needed this. They needed to air out their grievances, their problems, their baggage everything. This was the avenue they needed to heal. I'm so glad for this. To see how emotional Nick got, really showed what they all have been going through. The betrayal, the lies, the anger all of it so heavy. I'm glad to see this band back together, thank you to you guys. I hope to see great things from you guys in the future.
Nick is the purest soul in metal. There's nothing more metal than displaying your emotions in a healthy manner. There's nothing more metal than passion. Love this band. Tim, you better not screw this up again. You guys need this band and your fans as much as we need you.
Zachary Ziobro well I didn't mean it into a negative way that's for sure lol their new song rocks and had me excited but after this, it seems they still have some healing to do.
i just wasnt sure cause you said "no disrespect" but yeah man, its good to see that they all have the inner strength to come back together and try doing what they know they are good at and love. I'm also very glad that Tim is trying to show the world (whether they want to give him a second chance or not) that he is a changed man and regrets the person he once was.
Nicks my favorite, he just completely lets it out and doesn’t hold back a shred of emotion... the way he went into depth like how his personal life was affected, how he couldn’t get away from it cause everyone would ask him about it and the sheer deterioration of his physical health due to the stress was just... beyond words. Glad these guys did this to show just how affected everyone was, both on an individual and collective level.
Man.. this is super emotional. Especially hearing Nick left. Yall are one of my favorite bands of all time. Been a massive fan since I was like 14 lol. 33 now. Thanks for giving us this inside glance. We love you guys.
Nick, the friendliest guy in Metal got me right in the feels..... if he can process this, the rest of the world can't really say much else. He is a great Weathervane for this to be measured upon. Good for these guys to spill far more than the world deserves to hear. Glad to see them together.
Coming back now after essentially the end of AILD after Nick and Josh have left, with Jordan almost certain to call it officially, this just hits so different. Nick's raw display of emotion, and the sincere honesty in everything discussed is such an emotional journey. The work they put out as a band was and always will be iconic and amazing. I truly hope they all find closure and happiness on their individual paths.
In 2013 I caused an explosion in an apartment building and it resulted in 3 people being burnt (including myself) and about a dozen more almost got hurt, including children. I've done 14 months in state institutions and have had to pay over 10,000$ in fines and restitution.... The person I was back then was not a good person... I was on drugs and had lost my way from everything that was important to me.... The feeling of regret and remorse was so deep and I wanted to be forgiven so bad... I wanted redemption so bad... I almost killed myself several times...i couldn't handle the guilt. I got into more trouble from drugs and I ended up in rehab in Louisville KY, that place changed my life. I found other people just like me and I realized many things about myself... And I began to change. I found a few books that changed my perspective on life and gave me a deep spiritual understanding of this life and people...when I got out of that place, my family seen that I was changed and they forgave me for my actions... They showed me love and they showed me compassion. I have seen so much good in humanity through my process and out of my experience I have learned that forgiveness is Soooo strong.... It can change lives.... I needed to go through what I went through to become who I am now. That is the case with Tim as well.... He had to go through his situation to become a better person...who knows... Maybe we will see it through the music... I'm hoping fore some deep spiritual stuff... I've been a fan for 13 years and I'm not going to stop being a fan now. Love to you guys As I Lay Dying, Tim, welcome back man. I forgive you man and I hope to see great things manifest in your life. Love to you all!
BeHereNow Dragonfly Damn some deep stuff. Glad you're doing better. It takes some people to sink to the bottom and fight their way back up to finally catch their breath and enjoy life for what it is about connections with each other spiritually, emotionally and physically =]
BeHereNow Dragonfly That's what so many don't seem to be able to understand. We have to hit rock bottom before it becomes real enough for us to make the concious decision that it's time to do something different. We're human after all. Sometimes you have to be buried neck deep in shit before you finally realize "Oh fuck... I'm buried neck deep in shit." Then find the way out and not get to that place again. Having solid people in life is the key. I hope Tim keeps that in his heart and mind every minute of every day of his life because he's got some solid ass homies right there.
Awesome dude much love and compassion your way from Berea Ky, your a better person today. Dont let anyone judge you bro for any sins youve ever made right in the past. Im glad to hear everything is right with you and your family. Stay strong, Hard as Metal
I got see them 2 weeks ago outside of Chicago and had the chance to meet Tim after the show. I went up to him and gave him a big hug and told him how much AILD meant to me. These guys have been such an inspiration to me and for them to show so much emotion and forgiveness after so much despair and pain with what they all went through makes me hurt, love and respect them so much more. On a side note, there wasn't a dry eye in the whole venue after they played My Own Grave. I wish them years of success and can't wait for many albums to come. I love you guys!
Coming back here after Nick and Josh have left, and now Jordan is sitting out this upcoming tour. The band is pretty much done for at this point but I'm okay with that because Tim should focus on his side projects, which sound fresher and more exciting anyways. Plus, most fans would agree that Shaped By Fire would be a good album to go out on (I personally don't agree but hey, it's still a solid album). Regardless, I'm so happy these guys came back and gave the fans one more shot. I'll never forget when they released the My Own Grave music video and smiling ear to ear at just how great of a song it was, and the fact that all the original members were back in a room jamming out like that :')
To find out Jordan actions is what pushed Nick out and then Josh to leave because he wasnt answering any of their calls for 2 years once COVID canceled shows and Jordan was mad other shows were canceled because people were boycotting Tim. So he wanted to boot Tim and take the AILD name.
@@hhaste If Jordan officially leaves, which I assume he already did(?) then Tim will fully own the band and I’m sure he’ll continue it since it pays the bills. I’d be interested in a new album with this line up, but really I just want new Pyrithion. That’s all I want.
“Suffering, Persistence, Such sorrow, Yet Resilience” I’m glad to see repentance, grace, respect, forgiveness, healing, and just an over all resurgence of faith in each of these dudes. It’s almost as if a beacon of hope is growing and it’s with these five dudes. If the rest of the world could bury their hate the way these guys did, I could only imagine. Glad you guys are back!
Noah Smith I don’t think they’ve buried their hate or dislike for Tim. Nick and Phil in particular I think probably resent him for what he did. Only in time can he prove that he’s a changed man
I understand what Nick is saying so much. I too went through an experience which stained people's idea of my identity. There's a lot of pain in going through a traumatic experience and having people constantly talk to you about it and as associate you with it as if it were the only thing you can talk about or the only remarkable thing you've ever been through. You just want to move on and be finally free of that heavy weight, but people won't let you move on. Other than that, I understand the mixed feelings the guys have. I hope they can finally move on and be happy. They deserve it so much. It's so freaking unfair that they have to pay for something they have no responsibility for whatsoever. I admire you guys so much. Lots of love from Spain ❤️
This video is about redemption. I loved that Phil & Nick shared the raw feelings of hatred they had. The fact that those 4 guys can not only sit at the same table with Tim, but forgive him, record a song & possibly continue as a band is beyond amazing. I know there are plenty of cynical people out there who thinks that this is all about money. I'm not going to try & change their mind. If that's how they feel then fine. But if you can watch this video & see the genuine emotions they all showed & think they can all just put it behind them for the sake of the almighty dollar, then I don't think you have a very good grasp of the situation. I won't get religious, but this is nothing short of a miracle. It is a man going to the deepest darkest depths of rock bottom & dwelling there for a long time and then slowly crawling out and rebuilding his life the right way & repairing friendships that seemed to be unsalvageable. The things Tim did should never be forgotten. He should never get a "free pass", but he does have the right to put his life back together & he's worthy of forgiveness. If those 4 guys who he hurt beyond belief & knew him better than anybody can see the change & forgive him, then I'm extremely comfortable continuing to be a fan of As I Lay Dying.
@joe winkler how do you know they were broke.. Tim was not "the" band. they were a band as a whole, of course he had alot of influence on song writing and had alot of good ideas. but they came up with those songs a group. And would you be be visiting your buddy after all that shit went down. I think you would be in the same boat as all the other band members, unless you were colluding with Tim on his "Mistake"...these are great musicians, who can shred like non other and keep up with the legends of Metal...They all deserve this chance to continue on the path they were on before all this went down. Joe keep your dumb ass comments to yourself, and dont follow what the band is doing if you dont agree with it you schmuck....
Beyond the music, there are fundamental lessons for us all to learn from here. Take from it what you will. Thanks guys for making the effort to open up publicly and whatever the future holds, I hope growth and healing is found.
I saw firsthand the damage that Tim caused with his actions, I've known Nick's extended family for ages and they're super close and I saw the pain and struggle to forgive Tim for the evil he'd done...I think we only ever talked about the whole situation once and then never really spoke of it again with Nick's family...So it was painful, but good to watch this and to hear what Nick had to say. I feel terrible for him and have hung out with him enough to tell you, he's truly one of the most genuine and heartfelt dudes. So, as I watched, I told myself, if Nick can forgive Tim, despite the damage it did not only to himself, but Nick's whole extended family (the band would hang out with them whenever they came into town) then I have no excuse to not forgive Tim either. It's weird writing this and realizing that I've held onto resentment to Tim for the pain he's caused my close friends. I'd forgiven him conceptually before, but not in actuality. It wasn't until hearing Nick talk about it in this video that I feel like I truly forgive him, just like he's done.
Nick is one of the chillest dudes I've met. I saw the guys in Toronto when they opened for Atreyu. My friend and I were just out for a breather and we ran into Nick who happened to be wearing the same band shirt (Unearth). He looked over and pointed and said "sweet shirt". We hung out and talked for a while. Honestly one of the best moments in my life. I'm glad everything is working out and you dudes are able to make peace and continue on.
Jordan looks he is gonna start punch people in the begining and when Nick is talking and he gets emotional everyone just became butter-faced ready to start tearing. Holy fuck Tim did some serious dmg but those guys are ok with it so am I. their music is amazing and i'll support them wih their new beginning
ExNotes is it was just you didnt reply to do a christmas card and all that that was the first time day going to get get do it 0a5eeeeereeaeteeeeerreeeeeeaeeeeeeeeeeeeaeaeeeaeerereeeeaearee5a5w
This is one of the craziest documentaries I've seen...a guy from a popular metal band tried to have his wife murdered, and not only do they continue, but they actually reflect upon it and make music in the aftermath.
You think that’s some sort of cool story or something? I swear to god some of you people are incapable of grasping the fact that these are real people.
You guys are amazing people. Seeing the raw emotion and hearing it directly from each of you brings so much perspective to the past 5 years. While watching this I couldn't help but here the chorus to A Greater Foundation in my head. "Sometimes we have to watch our whole lives fall apart Before we can rebuild them again A greater foundation." So here's to hoping that the best AILD is yet to come!
Dude it warms my heart to see them talking and working through everything. I love these guys and I'm so glad they're able to heal and repair the damage
@@yourmomdidthisnotmine5765 It just seems like no matter how much they may or may not heal between the 5 of them, they are still heavily effected by Tim's past actions regardless of how much of a better place he may be at. Probably just took even more of a toll on them after the fact. It's just too much to make the band work anymore
The absolute honesty from each member is exactly what was needed. The emotion definitely shows how much everyone values all the individuals in the band. I'm happy that each journey eventually lead in a positive direction that reunited them at this point. I always hoped for a reunion, and Christmas came in June this year.
When Nick talked it brought me to tears how hard he was trying to hold it tghr.... Dam man the feels the while band was holding back tears I'm so glad these guys grew and stayed thgr best metal comeback ever
Getting back together despite what Tim has done shows character, maturity, and encourages me in many ways. It was a big move but you guys did it and it only makes me love you guys more. Other bands have broken up for less. Love you all!
Nick & Phil, very honest and direct, I'm glad we can understand this a lot more now. You guys inspired me a lot before this whole thing, but the strength you've shown now is just amazing! You guys are heroes! So many bands can learn from you!
I'm so happy they are all back together! I believe Tim served his time and realized who he had become. I think he is back to being the man he was before or maybe even better. I hope and pray that they can all get through everything and become bigger than they were before. I was and still am a fan their music is what has helped me through so much! I'm so excited that they're back and My Own Grave is beautiful!
Eventhough it's not the main point of this video, I always saw Nick and Phil as brothers, they were such a motivation for me when I first started playing guitar. They were like an unstoppable duo and seeing Nick tear up about their seperation really hit me. However, I know you guys will go on to do greater things. Love and respect.
I love you guys, you were the band that lifted the veil for me into Metal. So unique, in your face and lightning fast. I am so happy you all got back together, there is so much talent here. Life is about forgiveness and love. So proud and happy for you all for dealing with all the trauma’s this caused. Thank you gentlemen
Honestly, Tim! What you did was inexcusable and was such a blow to your loved ones, the band, your fans and yourself but you know what? I forgive you, a lot of your fans forgive you knowing you lost your way and you paid your dues. Yes, there's a lot of healing to do amongst everyone and the band as a WHOLE but that has begun that path which is the BEST outcome. I've been a fan since 2004ish and know you and the band has done so much good in the world and that by itself is a reason y'all should just keep on and play your damn hearts out. Y'all got my support! That being said "My Own Grave" was fucking STELLAR!
she said in the filed divorce docs that she didnt fear for her life but that she saw changes in him and that " he was working out more getting tattoos, on the phone while watching the kids falling asleep" man what a bad guy cuz no one is ever on there phone while watching their kids lol
I saw these guys so many times both at shows in my home town and at Warped, and I met them all once at a CD signing in Hot Topic. They helped my love of metal grow. They consistently had some of the biggest circle pits I have ever seen. I'm glad they're trying to pull back together, and I hope they keep making great music without any more trouble.
This has easily become one of my all time favorite bands. The music is good and I fully intend to support them by buying the albums, going to a show if I can, t-shirts...etc, but it's way more than just the music to me now. This story is incredible. Such a testimony to forgiveness and friendship. God bless you, all the members of AILD, this is why Christians have these cheesy phrases like "God can turn a test into a testimony" when you find things like this... it's like "how in the world did they get back together, I NEVER saw this coming..." well, this is why.
I’m a HUGE fan guys. I’m always listening to you guys. After everything that happened, I’ve never felt hatred against tim. But finally hearing tim, and the rest of the bands side, I respect you guys even more. Hearing Nicks words, I’ve never thought they would get back together. Us fans love you guys. I’m so happy Phil and Nick wanted to get this band together. Not just them but the rest. WOVENWAR is awesome too. I’m so happy they came up with what they came up with. I’m soooo glad AILD is back. Again, I’m a huge fan. Make more music. We’re still here!! I respect all of you. I hope you guys read this. I have respect for all of you. But I also want to know, what does tim think of wovenwar :)
I think that it is so important that this discussion happened; not just important for the fans to see one of their favorite bands laying all of this underlying turmoil on the table, but also for the group themselves. This is very bold of Tim and the rest of the group. I love the sincerity.
@@lsebk1 Can you pls send more details about the problem is? Someone said Tim trying to kill Nick's wife meanwhile as i know Tim only want to kill his own wife
It kinda goes along with their lyrics for A Greater Foundation "Sometimes we have to watch our whole lives fall apart, Before we can rebuild them again, A greater foundation". I've always loved this band and I hope they can continue grow from this experience and be successful
This video touched me so damn deep. Watching Nick almost tearing down to pieces was just heart wrenching to say the least, but even after all what happened, the damage, the pain, the remorse, the hatred, they still gave it another chance, one last time, and that alone I think, sends a ver y powerful and beautiful message, that there's always room for forgiveness, and when its genuine, when it comes from the soul, it really makes you free. I for one, will continue supporting these guys, I've never been in a position to judge what happened, but if they carried on, I will be doing so with them, now more than ever. I cannot express how happy I am to see them together again, "My Own Grave" was definitely a cathartic song, for them as human beings, friends and bandmates but also for us as fans, it was the closure we all needed on the matter and a hopeful stance for what's to come. Guys in As I Lay Dying, I was, am, and will be with you guys, enjoying and loving your music, supporting your dreams and goals, I grew up along side you and will continue to do so, I love you all and for the love of God, just keep rocking no matter what, it wont be easy, a lot of people are not so understanding (mainly because for whatever stupid reason they feel entitled to you or whatever), but there's also hundreds, thousands and even millions of people that share my feelings and thoughts about all of you and will always be there to rock by your side, hope these humble and caring words get to you. With love, a Colombian fan :)
To all the commentors saying they look like shamefaced puppy dogs as I've seen on several blogs, you must not know anything about male expression of emotion. They're barely holding on in this video because this talk is pulverizing their hearts. It's so easy to pass mindless judgments, but you should stop.
Adam Seneca this very true. For men to sit down and hash shit out like this it's very hard. Men in society are taught not to do this. So I agree with you.
People always act stupid when men "get emotional" but we're all human and we all have emotions and express it differently. Especially men. And if we would just accept that men have emotions that need to be expressed too then we would be better off.
All the support on these last couple of videos seems very genuine and empowering. I'm really glad that people are mature enough to hear each other out and heal on their own terms. Huge props to the band AND the fan base.
He been judged, he did his time. Now I'm 100% behind you guys. Show the world how to do real good Metalcore. ''My own grave'' is so good turn that anger into the greatest Metal album ever!
This was so deep. I'm glad you guys are together again, I'd listen to you guys when I've been in a bad situation, or after my brain surgeries, just so cool to see my favorite band together again
You guys have been through so much... I've grown up listening to your music and I am so happy to hear you're all back together and finally reunited as friends. It's amazing the transition you guys have all gone through. I can't wait to come down and see you guys as a team again on November 6th in Dallas Texas. I have never been so excited to hear new music from another band until I heard about reuniting from you guys. I feel like I can connect on small level as you guys, a very similar situation happened to me a few of my best friends. I know it was nothing close to what Tim has done, but at least I have a small connection and can understand how you're feeling Tim. Thank you for being honest and proving the people can change.... even if it's from the most extreme circumstances.
It takes a real man to own up to his mistakes and apologize for all he's done. My heart goes out to all of you. I'm sure this wasn't an easy process...but I'm so fucking happy you dudes are back together making amazing music. I can't stop listening to the track...good Lord I can relate to the subject matter so much. No one in life is perfect. If we're honest about our past mistakes and willing to change for the betterment of one's self and their loved ones...Forgiveness and healing will come about. The first album I bought from you guys was Shadows Are Security...and it really saved my life as a teenager dealing with so much... Believe me when I say this: thank you for being alive and making music. I owe you guys my life and I support As I Lay Dying 1000 percent.
@@octo.lina69 Probably the biggest men like the other members of the band to be able to talk about this in depth and be able to surpass the bad things that have happened. You know, FORGIVENESS and stuff?
Dear friends, I hear your music since I'm 15. Today, I'm 27! To see you re back, to hear what you were/ are struggling with makes me sad and makes me love you so so so SO DEEEPLY! I'm thankful for your music all over the years and I'm thankful that all of you discuss your conflicts, thankful that all of you are willing to forgive. If you can forgive, Im totally okay with it too. I love you all! Thank you for your openness! Your friend A.
I watched their documentary and I watched this discussion. It took me to where nick is feeling all the baggage that he carried since Tims arrest, sentencing and release. This is something that is beyond music. For a grown man to shed tears for what his friend has done this more than just a band.
Thank you for releasing this, it helped me move past some of my reservations as well and I really look forward to seeing what you guys can make of the situation. I know you guys will do what you feel is right and I hope you don’t let the future negativity get you down! I think I speak for millions when I say Welcome Back!
Nick's journey just reminds me of how instances (though not to the extent of what he/they went through and are going through) in my own life where I had become blinded by hate toward someone who had done something harmful/wrong to me and my refusal to forgive them, ended up creating my own 'prison.' That so called prison would then manifest itself negatively in me in physical and cognitive ways, but learning to forgive broke me out of that prison. The word 'forgiveness' is thrown around too often, but real forgiveness is messy, raw, not to be taken lightly, and for the person the wrong was done to, is ultimately the most freeing experience if you can get there. Thank you guys for being honest, open, and forthright about everything. I'm sure there's a long road ahead.
Such relief seeing you all together! Once you lay it all out there in person you let go of all that weight that is not necessary to live a positive life. I remember watching 94 hours years ago that feeling came back when I heard my own grave 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 last go let’s move forward from here 👍🏻 and thank you for this for all to see and the real fans out there watching keep supporting! This music is sometimes all we got 👍🏻
This is really hard to watch, for a number of reasons. The main one is you can still see the pain and even still some hatred for everything that went down. You can tell this was hard for them to actually finally sit down and let it all out. I love that they did this without any editing. They didn’t try to make this look all happy, they wanted to show us the struggle that they are all still going through, but it also shows something amazing... they are moving forward. To forgive someone for something as horrible as what he had done, is tough. Especially when it affects your life for years and years. I am happy they are coming back, and moving forward. Tim looks so sincere while they are all speaking their mind. This wasn’t made to look like everything was ok, but it still isn’t, you can tell. That is what I love about this video. It’s real. It shows true emotion, which is the staple point for as I lay dying... emotion.
i just watched this, and i can genuinely feel how Nick was feeling at the time he was speaking. Like all the pent up anger, depression, and remorse towards Tim was let out. Ill be honest i teared up cause Nick and the rest of the band did speak out for the rest of the AILD community. I'm very happy to see them back together.
Before watching: This band was one of my top faves growing up. A band of brothers. I have a tight group of guy friends around me whom I would do anything for. If they cry... I'm crying... (EDIT) After watching: Nick is crying and now I am crying.
I doubt this will ever reach you, Tim, but I saw AILD live in 2010 (Winnipeg). The way you guys carried yourselves on stage (as well as the amazing show itself) turned me from a casual listener to a huge fan. I was absolutely gutted when everything went down, in shock that someone I looked up to so much was capable of going down such a dark path. It took a while to come to terms with it, and I hope I'll never be able to understand what was going through your mind during that time. I have a wife and two young kids, and just can't fathom what would ever bring me to wish harm on them. There's no way to justify what happened, but I think everyone deserves a chance to make up for the mistakes and choices they've made. Ever since the trial, a part of me has been desperately hoping for this to happen. That you would turn your life around, and the band would find a way to forgive you, and somehow you guys would be able to keep stirring my soul with your music. I didn't think it would actually happen (and I just found out about this yesterday), but I want you to know that, even as a stranger you'll probably never meet, AILD has my full support going forward. If you ever come back to Winnipeg, I'll be there.
I have and always will love this band. Glad to see them pull back together. Tim.. I believe in you man and I'm proud of the band giving you another chance. This is amazing and maybe now I'll finally get to see you play LIVE! I actually made a bucket list about 10 years ago for shits & giggles. Seeing you in concert was in my top 5. Now, I'll finally actually have a chance to finish it. I'm still so blown away by this. This band will always get a Zeppy seal of approval! Kick some ass As I Lay Dying!! 👍👍
holy fuck. this is. this is brotherhood. I am so teary eyed listening to this. I am here an I will follow this journey. fan since 2006. forever will be after hearing this. these guys put there heart on there sleeve. I love you guys. genuine.
They kept referring to "what he did". Say it. I tried to have my wife murdered. Then I will buy your sincerity. Props to Phil for being so honest. Nick, you shouldn't be having to hold back. Say what you mean brother, those tears don't come from no where. Tim, I'm so glad you have come from where you were. I have supported AILD since Frail Words Collapse came out when I was a teenager. Don't hide from your mistakes. Own them. Speak them. Grow. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, I'm in tears after watching this and as a musician I am heartbroken by you, Tim. I am glad you have made the steps you have to grow. Peace.
Super awesome of you guys to put this out there for everyone to see. I can't express how cool it is to have a band that helped me through a lot in my life come back from what seemed like a permanent hiatus. Much love to you guys as you work towards your goals and push on through what's going on in your lives.
This is the heaviest breakdown in metal history
“Sometimes we have to watch our whole lives fall apart, before we can rebuild it again... a greater foundation.”
5 grown men sit down and discuss emotions. Metal af
hahahahahaha I don't want to take away from the importance of this video but jesus christ that's hilarious and true
5 grown men sit and discuss their emotions surrounding an attempt on someone's life**
Mike, fuck off! 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
Nah Mike is right. Pretty fucking wise and mature to have a discourse especially about something as serious.
Metal is the most emotional music there is.
Man..... Nick looks sad af, Josh looks really uncomfortable, Phil looks really pissed, and Jordan looks like "it is what it is"
Phil always looks passed off
@@johnnybee2073 not on his youtube
Interesting comment to revisit three years later
@@JohnDoe-pm9ip Yeah, looks like their conscience caught up with them since.
@@Mariooo57 it's very concerning that the most negative things is said by Phil but still Phil is the only member left
I would have never ever thought that they would reunite with the original lineup. It's almost a miracle
The lineup that made An Ocean Between Us and everything after
Jairo Droz Evan White was the original bassist too. Also, David Arthur did clean vocals on Shadows Are Security, not Clint Norris but Clint did it live.
This is the lineup that got us here. Once in a lifetime kind of thing. Tim is brutal on the vocals, u can feel every emotion word lyric passion, josh gives it emotion with his bass, voice, breakdowns prechorus and choruses, Phil obliterates new riffs causing a blackout worldwide, and nick goes north korea with the solos, and jordan keeps it all together steady playing at 350 bpm without breaking a sweat, while also causing supernova with that amazing beard lol
Timmy Turner Well said! i start listening with this line up
They all know how big they are and how damage they can do being together in this band
I really feel for you, Nick. From what everyone says, you're one of the nicest dudes in metal. I can't imagine what you must have gone through to feel that kind of hatred. I'm glad you're finally able to start making peace with all of this.
Nick is one of the nicest guys in Metal. I met him. Super nice guy even though he was sick that nick.
His cousins are my god-brothers so we've hung out a few times. He really is a super nice dude. It sucked seeing what Nick's family had to go through with what happened with Tim.
Met him twice and can confirm the guy is an absolute sweetheart on top of one of the most underrated shredders in the game.
Nick Hipa is an amazing dude. always very nice no matter the circumstances
OblivionFall ..FUCK YEAA!!..LOVE THESE GUYS!!!😍😍😍😊☺
If you mute the sound when Jordan Mancino is talking you would almost thing they are just sitting there silently waiting for a bird to come out of his beard. You would have no idea his mouth is moving.
What an insensitive douche!!!
lol
As fucking stupid as this comment is, I cant help but laugh hysterically. Good one, mate
Well im not retarded so i think i under hisituh moving means talking
Gotta say, it's a badass beard
Wow. You can really tell that they're still struggling. There's awkwardness between them. Resentment, lots of resentment. Broken hearts, and a feeling of not knowing the other person. A feeling of longing, and shame, and guilt, but also gratitude, hope, acceptance, and forgiveness. These guys are doing something special here. They might not even know exactly themselves where they're going as a group right now, but they're doing good things. I wish them all the best, and may they once again build a great friendship as a group.
The court and punishment systems really did these guys a disservice and let everything fester a lot more which was avoidable had they given these people the chance to sort things out and clear misunderstandings. Tim was not a dark and evil person as an individual and identity, he makes it clear he's the opposite than he was in that moment, it was a very dark fundamental area in his life where it went too wrong.
@@ThBlueSalamander Yeah but it still seems odd that they split up now. Sad but it is what it is I guess, and who knows what goes on behind the scenes. I can still go back and listen to the albums they made together.
They needed this. They needed to air out their grievances, their problems, their baggage everything. This was the avenue they needed to heal. I'm so glad for this. To see how emotional Nick got, really showed what they all have been going through. The betrayal, the lies, the anger all of it so heavy. I'm glad to see this band back together, thank you to you guys. I hope to see great things from you guys in the future.
This got me right the feels, especially when Nick talked... Glad you guys are willing to put all this out there ❤
Right from the start, he looks like he had been crying earlier.
Nick made me cry to the bones...The same he transmitts to me with his guitar playing...Hope this is a new beggining for you four finally!
I'm glade y'all back together and writing music the pass is the pass the future of as dying keeps going
Hey Zeus watch out. We got a true-kvlt badass over here.
NMetal25 yeah dude when he was talking about the pain he had and physical pain must have been tramatic.
Nick is the purest soul in metal. There's nothing more metal than displaying your emotions in a healthy manner. There's nothing more metal than passion. Love this band. Tim, you better not screw this up again. You guys need this band and your fans as much as we need you.
from the beginning of the video, just looking at Nick is soul-crushing
The most powerful part of this interview is Jordan’s facial hair
When jordan started talking I thought my video froze haha
He looks like a undercover Greek god
I hope he never shaves that mesmerizing beard
It’s glorious!
@@christopherherndon4559 it truly is
No disrespect but this might be the most brutal thing they've released
roan drone Seconded.
Thirded
in a good or bad way....either way I don't disagree
Zachary Ziobro well I didn't mean it into a negative way that's for sure lol their new song rocks and had me excited but after this, it seems they still have some healing to do.
i just wasnt sure cause you said "no disrespect" but yeah man, its good to see that they all have the inner strength to come back together and try doing what they know they are good at and love. I'm also very glad that Tim is trying to show the world (whether they want to give him a second chance or not) that he is a changed man and regrets the person he once was.
Nicks my favorite, he just completely lets it out and doesn’t hold back a shred of emotion... the way he went into depth like how his personal life was affected, how he couldn’t get away from it cause everyone would ask him about it and the sheer deterioration of his physical health due to the stress was just... beyond words. Glad these guys did this to show just how affected everyone was, both on an individual and collective level.
he definitely looks the most burdened in this discussion.
Which one is Tim?
Which one is Nick?
@@dynamorphic Tim in the middle and nick on the left side of Tim
@@dynamorphic Which one are you?
Man.. this is super emotional. Especially hearing Nick left. Yall are one of my favorite bands of all time. Been a massive fan since I was like 14 lol. 33 now. Thanks for giving us this inside glance. We love you guys.
The feels during Nick's part were so intense, I actually shed some tears
Keenan D same here bro
Same I was emotional through the whole thing
Definitely pretty hard to watch without feeling some strong emotions
Guess I'm weird. I loled
Yeah, I didn't think it would hit me....but it did.
Nick looks like he's been losing a lot of sleep over this.
🤣
I think they need to have another “discussion.”
Nick, the friendliest guy in Metal got me right in the feels..... if he can process this, the rest of the world can't really say much else. He is a great Weathervane for this to be measured upon. Good for these guys to spill far more than the world deserves to hear. Glad to see them together.
Coming back now after essentially the end of AILD after Nick and Josh have left, with Jordan almost certain to call it officially, this just hits so different. Nick's raw display of emotion, and the sincere honesty in everything discussed is such an emotional journey. The work they put out as a band was and always will be iconic and amazing. I truly hope they all find closure and happiness on their individual paths.
In 2013 I caused an explosion in an apartment building and it resulted in 3 people being burnt (including myself) and about a dozen more almost got hurt, including children. I've done 14 months in state institutions and have had to pay over 10,000$ in fines and restitution....
The person I was back then was not a good person... I was on drugs and had lost my way from everything that was important to me....
The feeling of regret and remorse was so deep and I wanted to be forgiven so bad... I wanted redemption so bad...
I almost killed myself several times...i couldn't handle the guilt.
I got into more trouble from drugs and I ended up in rehab in Louisville KY, that place changed my life.
I found other people just like me and I realized many things about myself... And I began to change. I found a few books that changed my perspective on life and gave me a deep spiritual understanding of this life and people...when I got out of that place, my family seen that I was changed and they forgave me for my actions... They showed me love and they showed me compassion. I have seen so much good in humanity through my process and out of my experience I have learned that forgiveness is Soooo strong.... It can change lives....
I needed to go through what I went through to become who I am now. That is the case with Tim as well.... He had to go through his situation to become a better person...who knows... Maybe we will see it through the music... I'm hoping fore some deep spiritual stuff... I've been a fan for 13 years and I'm not going to stop being a fan now. Love to you guys As I Lay Dying, Tim, welcome back man. I forgive you man and I hope to see great things manifest in your life. Love to you all!
BeHereNow Dragonfly Damn some deep stuff. Glad you're doing better. It takes some people to sink to the bottom and fight their way back up to finally catch their breath and enjoy life for what it is about connections with each other spiritually, emotionally and physically =]
BeHereNow Dragonfly
That's what so many don't seem to be able to understand. We have to hit rock bottom before it becomes real enough for us to make the concious decision that it's time to do something different. We're human after all. Sometimes you have to be buried neck deep in shit before you finally realize "Oh fuck... I'm buried neck deep in shit." Then find the way out and not get to that place again. Having solid people in life is the key. I hope Tim keeps that in his heart and mind every minute of every day of his life because he's got some solid ass homies right there.
Awesome dude much love and compassion your way from Berea Ky, your a better person today. Dont let anyone judge you bro for any sins youve ever made right in the past. Im glad to hear everything is right with you and your family. Stay strong, Hard as Metal
CFH M3TAL thanks brother, I appreciate you saying that.
Stay strong bro It's good you are still here and made this far.
Sometimes we have to watch our whole lives fall apart,
Before we can rebuild them again,
A greater foundation...
Cyrus Doce It’s so poetic
Such prophetic lyrics.
I got see them 2 weeks ago outside of Chicago and had the chance to meet Tim after the show. I went up to him and gave him a big hug and told him how much AILD meant to me. These guys have been such an inspiration to me and for them to show so much emotion and forgiveness after so much despair and pain with what they all went through makes me hurt, love and respect them so much more.
On a side note, there wasn't a dry eye in the whole venue after they played My Own Grave. I wish them years of success and can't wait for many albums to come. I love you guys!
how did you meet tim? im getting tickets for Nov in charlotte? id love to meet him
I had a very similar experience in Dallas few nights ago. Was able to get a few words and a pic.
iknowyouarebutwhatami Amen
Inspired you to kill your wife?
Look at the sadness that Nicks been holding onto.
Damn... It's looks like when your mom calls for dinner and you just had a fight with your brothers and then your mom ask "what happen?"
azim DUSTY Haha exactly. It will eventually ease up and be back to normal
"Sorry mom, Tim tried to have his wife murdered again!"
If that was the case, NOBODY would say shit, because that means EVERYONE is getting an ass whuppin.
These guys are still healing. You can sense the anxiety in the room. It seems genuine. I hope it is. This was my favorite band.
Coming back here after Nick and Josh have left, and now Jordan is sitting out this upcoming tour. The band is pretty much done for at this point but I'm okay with that because Tim should focus on his side projects, which sound fresher and more exciting anyways. Plus, most fans would agree that Shaped By Fire would be a good album to go out on (I personally don't agree but hey, it's still a solid album). Regardless, I'm so happy these guys came back and gave the fans one more shot. I'll never forget when they released the My Own Grave music video and smiling ear to ear at just how great of a song it was, and the fact that all the original members were back in a room jamming out like that :')
release at least one more AILD then work on the side projects
To find out Jordan actions is what pushed Nick out and then Josh to leave because he wasnt answering any of their calls for 2 years once COVID canceled shows and Jordan was mad other shows were canceled because people were boycotting Tim. So he wanted to boot Tim and take the AILD name.
@@tormentridden Is that true though?
idk, they picked up Unearth's guitarist and drummer and Miss May I's bassist.. that's a solid lineup.
@@hhaste If Jordan officially leaves, which I assume he already did(?) then Tim will fully own the band and I’m sure he’ll continue it since it pays the bills. I’d be interested in a new album with this line up, but really I just want new Pyrithion. That’s all I want.
Damn, this is deep. So much respect laying this out here for your fans.
bakerXderek yooo you're a fan too. This is crazy eh.
bakerXderek CHEAH!! 👌
CHEEEEEEAH
what!?!? bikerXderek is a fan of as i lay dying? :D siiiick, love u dude
CHEAAAHHH
“Suffering,
Persistence,
Such sorrow,
Yet Resilience”
I’m glad to see repentance, grace, respect, forgiveness, healing, and just an over all resurgence of faith in each of these dudes. It’s almost as if a beacon of hope is growing and it’s with these five dudes. If the rest of the world could bury their hate the way these guys did, I could only imagine. Glad you guys are back!
Noah Smith I don’t think they’ve buried their hate or dislike for Tim. Nick and Phil in particular I think probably resent him for what he did. Only in time can he prove that he’s a changed man
I understand what Nick is saying so much. I too went through an experience which stained people's idea of my identity. There's a lot of pain in going through a traumatic experience and having people constantly talk to you about it and as associate you with it as if it were the only thing you can talk about or the only remarkable thing you've ever been through. You just want to move on and be finally free of that heavy weight, but people won't let you move on.
Other than that, I understand the mixed feelings the guys have.
I hope they can finally move on and be happy. They deserve it so much.
It's so freaking unfair that they have to pay for something they have no responsibility for whatsoever.
I admire you guys so much.
Lots of love from Spain ❤️
looks like the "last supper"
dasadopeboy oh shit.... who's Judas then?
@@danielalvarenga5897 Tim
Lol
Interesting
dasadopeboy As serious and heartfelt as this video is, this is funny af
This video is about redemption. I loved that Phil & Nick shared the raw feelings of hatred they had. The fact that those 4 guys can not only sit at the same table with Tim, but forgive him, record a song & possibly continue as a band is beyond amazing. I know there are plenty of cynical people out there who thinks that this is all about money. I'm not going to try & change their mind. If that's how they feel then fine. But if you can watch this video & see the genuine emotions they all showed & think they can all just put it behind them for the sake of the almighty dollar, then I don't think you have a very good grasp of the situation. I won't get religious, but this is nothing short of a miracle. It is a man going to the deepest darkest depths of rock bottom & dwelling there for a long time and then slowly crawling out and rebuilding his life the right way & repairing friendships that seemed to be unsalvageable. The things Tim did should never be forgotten. He should never get a "free pass", but he does have the right to put his life back together & he's worthy of forgiveness. If those 4 guys who he hurt beyond belief & knew him better than anybody can see the change & forgive him, then I'm extremely comfortable continuing to be a fan of As I Lay Dying.
Josh Landis well said!
Josh Landis Some times mercy cuts deeper than any knife.
Agreed 100 percent
Well said...
@joe winkler how do you know they were broke.. Tim was not "the" band. they were a band as a whole, of course he had alot of influence on song writing and had alot of good ideas. but they came up with those songs a group. And would you be be visiting your buddy after all that shit went down. I think you would be in the same boat as all the other band members, unless you were colluding with Tim on his "Mistake"...these are great musicians, who can shred like non other and keep up with the legends of Metal...They all deserve this chance to continue on the path they were on before all this went down. Joe keep your dumb ass comments to yourself, and dont follow what the band is doing if you dont agree with it you schmuck....
Beyond the music, there are fundamental lessons for us all to learn from here. Take from it what you will. Thanks guys for making the effort to open up publicly and whatever the future holds, I hope growth and healing is found.
William Patino tough stuff. No black and white.
Though it’s very hard to forgive him, I am optimistic about the future.
This is what brotherhood looks like. Many could learn from this.
There takes alot more strength to forgive than anything else. Mad respect to these guys. This was 30 minutes of open hearts. A must watch!
Raw and uncut. Perfect response🤘
Is it me or Jordan Mancino looks like the Lorax lol
WHERES MY GODDAMN TREE SEED
Dr Robotnik
Incredible. Simply incredible. Still cannot believe you are all together again. Your music gives me peace. All of you keep on keeping on. Much love.
It's really great seeing how real this is. Forgivness takes strength. Best of luck on the path to healing. Yalls music is an inspiration. 🤘
That might be the gnarliest mustache in the history of mustaches.
I saw firsthand the damage that Tim caused with his actions, I've known Nick's extended family for ages and they're super close and I saw the pain and struggle to forgive Tim for the evil he'd done...I think we only ever talked about the whole situation once and then never really spoke of it again with Nick's family...So it was painful, but good to watch this and to hear what Nick had to say.
I feel terrible for him and have hung out with him enough to tell you, he's truly one of the most genuine and heartfelt dudes. So, as I watched, I told myself, if Nick can forgive Tim, despite the damage it did not only to himself, but Nick's whole extended family (the band would hang out with them whenever they came into town) then I have no excuse to not forgive Tim either.
It's weird writing this and realizing that I've held onto resentment to Tim for the pain he's caused my close friends. I'd forgiven him conceptually before, but not in actuality. It wasn't until hearing Nick talk about it in this video that I feel like I truly forgive him, just like he's done.
@andrew hager amen
@andrew hager amen
not buying it. sorry. "H E Y I K N O W N I C K"
How many times do you have to mention that you're friends with Nicks family?... c'mon man.. that shit is so lame.
@@RedFail1-1 even lamer how he spins something that had zero affect on his life to be about him somehow. "dude you dropped something"
Nick is one of the chillest dudes I've met. I saw the guys in Toronto when they opened for Atreyu. My friend and I were just out for a breather and we ran into Nick who happened to be wearing the same band shirt (Unearth). He looked over and pointed and said "sweet shirt". We hung out and talked for a while. Honestly one of the best moments in my life. I'm glad everything is working out and you dudes are able to make peace and continue on.
Its almost as if he had to watch his whole life fall apart before he was able go rebuild it again with a greater foundation.
oh god stop with the song reference you trolls it aint funny
Jordan looks he is gonna start punch people in the begining and when Nick is talking and he gets emotional everyone just became butter-faced ready to start tearing. Holy fuck Tim did some serious dmg but those guys are ok with it so am I. their music is amazing and i'll support them wih their new beginning
ExNotes sorry but butter faced sounds too funny lol. long live as I lay dying
ExNotes is it was just you didnt reply to do a christmas card and all that that was the first time day going to get get do it 0a5eeeeereeaeteeeeerreeeeeeaeeeeeeeeeeeeaeaeeeaeerereeeeaearee5a5w
It's cool that they can get back together and all. But in my opinion until Tim's Ex wife speaks out and addresses the issue isn't really resolved.
Fenris as far as news go Tim's ex wife actually is the one that consents this whole thing and forgave him!
Brandon Gordon what?
This is one of the craziest documentaries I've seen...a guy from a popular metal band tried to have his wife murdered, and not only do they continue, but they actually reflect upon it and make music in the aftermath.
@Veronica Moody it's not awesome, you dumb bitchbag
Lina** Jae why the hell are you here? All you’re doing is dogging other people. Kiss my ass!
You think that’s some sort of cool story or something? I swear to god some of you people are incapable of grasping the fact that these are real people.
Lina Jae you are a pretty terrible person
@Iggsie Good.
You guys are amazing people. Seeing the raw emotion and hearing it directly from each of you brings so much perspective to the past 5 years. While watching this I couldn't help but here the chorus to A Greater Foundation in my head.
"Sometimes we have to watch our whole lives fall apart
Before we can rebuild them again
A greater foundation."
So here's to hoping that the best AILD is yet to come!
Dude it warms my heart to see them talking and working through everything. I love these guys and I'm so glad they're able to heal and repair the damage
The situation certainly didn’t end well with three of the 5 leaving the band this last year. Only two original members at this point.
@@yourmomdidthisnotmine5765 It just seems like no matter how much they may or may not heal between the 5 of them, they are still heavily effected by Tim's past actions regardless of how much of a better place he may be at. Probably just took even more of a toll on them after the fact. It's just too much to make the band work anymore
That beard is masive
Needs to be shaved off
He looks like the Lorax lol
Pablo Gonzales it’s a mustache
I think the word you're looking for is majestic
It's gross.
Phil looks soooo pissed still. Hope things work out for them!
Minnesota Metal Man You can tell he’s trying though
I just want these guys to know how much hardship they got me thru. For years as I lay dying was all I had. Love you guys and I’m so happy you’re back.
The absolute honesty from each member is exactly what was needed. The emotion definitely shows how much everyone values all the individuals in the band. I'm happy that each journey eventually lead in a positive direction that reunited them at this point. I always hoped for a reunion, and Christmas came in June this year.
When Nick talked it brought me to tears how hard he was trying to hold it tghr.... Dam man the feels the while band was holding back tears I'm so glad these guys grew and stayed thgr best metal comeback ever
Getting back together despite what Tim has done shows character, maturity, and encourages me in many ways. It was a big move but you guys did it and it only makes me love you guys more. Other bands have broken up for less. Love you all!
Jesse Herman they need money because wovenwar was trash
It shows they wanted a cash grab
Jesse Herman Other bands break up usually for personal issues etc.. The Tim story is something different here
Nick & Phil, very honest and direct, I'm glad we can understand this a lot more now. You guys inspired me a lot before this whole thing, but the strength you've shown now is just amazing! You guys are heroes! So many bands can learn from you!
I'm so happy they are all back together! I believe Tim served his time and realized who he had become. I think he is back to being the man he was before or maybe even better. I hope and pray that they can all get through everything and become bigger than they were before. I was and still am a fan their music is what has helped me through so much! I'm so excited that they're back and My Own Grave is beautiful!
Damn Nick. You messed me up with that speech.
Fricken tears galore.
Hitthegoat gosh you’re dim.
Eventhough it's not the main point of this video, I always saw Nick and Phil as brothers, they were such a motivation for me when I first started playing guitar. They were like an unstoppable duo and seeing Nick tear up about their seperation really hit me. However, I know you guys will go on to do greater things. Love and respect.
metalcore on trending? damn that's a comeback
cough cough unearth ,darkest hour still kicking just saying
I love you guys, you were the band that lifted the veil for me into Metal. So unique, in your face and lightning fast. I am so happy you all got back together, there is so much talent here. Life is about forgiveness and love. So proud and happy for you all for dealing with all the trauma’s this caused. Thank you gentlemen
Honestly, Tim! What you did was inexcusable and was such a blow to your loved ones, the band, your fans and yourself but you know what? I forgive you, a lot of your fans forgive you knowing you lost your way and you paid your dues. Yes, there's a lot of healing to do amongst everyone and the band as a WHOLE but that has begun that path which is the BEST outcome. I've been a fan since 2004ish and know you and the band has done so much good in the world and that by itself is a reason y'all should just keep on and play your damn hearts out.
Y'all got my support!
That being said "My Own Grave" was fucking STELLAR!
Dont be so stupid all your life, try to life a year with this nutcase maybe then u understand his ex-wife.
jayche So, according to you, a divorced couple can now attempt to murder one another and it's fine. Yup, totally makes sense.
Gore4ever FulciLives glad to see your mommy turned back on your WiFi.
she said in the filed divorce docs that she didnt fear for her life but that she saw changes in him and that " he was working out more getting tattoos, on the phone while watching the kids falling asleep" man what a bad guy cuz no one is ever on there phone while watching their kids lol
not really the mother of the children since they were adopted not biological anyways
This almost feels like this is the first time they have all sat down and talked about their feelings about the whole situation.
I saw these guys so many times both at shows in my home town and at Warped, and I met them all once at a CD signing in Hot Topic. They helped my love of metal grow. They consistently had some of the biggest circle pits I have ever seen. I'm glad they're trying to pull back together, and I hope they keep making great music without any more trouble.
This has easily become one of my all time favorite bands. The music is good and I fully intend to support them by buying the albums, going to a show if I can, t-shirts...etc, but it's way more than just the music to me now. This story is incredible. Such a testimony to forgiveness and friendship. God bless you, all the members of AILD, this is why Christians have these cheesy phrases like "God can turn a test into a testimony" when you find things like this... it's like "how in the world did they get back together, I NEVER saw this coming..." well, this is why.
Much respect to all of them for putting this honesty out there.
I’m a HUGE fan guys. I’m always listening to you guys. After everything that happened, I’ve never felt hatred against tim. But finally hearing tim, and the rest of the bands side, I respect you guys even more. Hearing Nicks words, I’ve never thought they would get back together. Us fans love you guys. I’m so happy Phil and Nick wanted to get this band together. Not just them but the rest. WOVENWAR is awesome too. I’m so happy they came up with what they came up with. I’m soooo glad AILD is back. Again, I’m a huge fan. Make more music. We’re still here!! I respect all of you. I hope you guys read this. I have respect for all of you. But I also want to know, what does tim think of wovenwar :)
Man this is heavy, I support you guys 100 percent. Your music has had a huge impact on my life and I will be with you guys to the end.
I think that it is so important that this discussion happened; not just important for the fans to see one of their favorite bands laying all of this underlying turmoil on the table, but also for the group themselves. This is very bold of Tim and the rest of the group. I love the sincerity.
Man, Nick is hurting so bad... :'(Just wanna run up and hug the guy.
Innit. Like just proper bear hug him, with permission of course.
Hurting about what ??
All Tim did.
He obviously never recovered from all that happened and never forgave him fully as he's left the band now
@@lsebk1 Can you pls send more details about the problem is? Someone said Tim trying to kill Nick's wife meanwhile as i know Tim only want to kill his own wife
It kinda goes along with their lyrics for A Greater Foundation "Sometimes we have to watch our whole lives fall apart,
Before we can rebuild them again,
A greater foundation". I've always loved this band and I hope they can continue grow from this experience and be successful
This video touched me so damn deep. Watching Nick almost tearing down to pieces was just heart wrenching to say the least, but even after all what happened, the damage, the pain, the remorse, the hatred, they still gave it another chance, one last time, and that alone I think, sends a ver y powerful and beautiful message, that there's always room for forgiveness, and when its genuine, when it comes from the soul, it really makes you free.
I for one, will continue supporting these guys, I've never been in a position to judge what happened, but if they carried on, I will be doing so with them, now more than ever. I cannot express how happy I am to see them together again, "My Own Grave" was definitely a cathartic song, for them as human beings, friends and bandmates but also for us as fans, it was the closure we all needed on the matter and a hopeful stance for what's to come.
Guys in As I Lay Dying, I was, am, and will be with you guys, enjoying and loving your music, supporting your dreams and goals, I grew up along side you and will continue to do so, I love you all and for the love of God, just keep rocking no matter what, it wont be easy, a lot of people are not so understanding (mainly because for whatever stupid reason they feel entitled to you or whatever), but there's also hundreds, thousands and even millions of people that share my feelings and thoughts about all of you and will always be there to rock by your side, hope these humble and caring words get to you.
With love, a Colombian fan :)
This was heavy. Mad respect for you guys taking responsibility and dealing with all this. It’s extremely rare to ever see stuff like this.
So stoked to have everybody back. Thank you for returning
To all the commentors saying they look like shamefaced puppy dogs as I've seen on several blogs, you must not know anything about male expression of emotion. They're barely holding on in this video because this talk is pulverizing their hearts. It's so easy to pass mindless judgments, but you should stop.
Adam Seneca this very true. For men to sit down and hash shit out like this it's very hard. Men in society are taught not to do this. So I agree with you.
Agreed
Adam Seneca Yes, you can tell they are barely holding on.
well said man
People always act stupid when men "get emotional" but we're all human and we all have emotions and express it differently. Especially men. And if we would just accept that men have emotions that need to be expressed too then we would be better off.
I never stopped listening to you guys. "My own grave" gave me some tears. We are here for you guys.
All the support on these last couple of videos seems very genuine and empowering. I'm really glad that people are mature enough to hear each other out and heal on their own terms. Huge props to the band AND the fan base.
Glad they're figuring this out and moving forward!
Kevin Student they are lost but they keep moving foward to find the truth 🎵
Juliana Santos exactly my thoughts dude
I agree man, also I found you on CZcams now too haha
He been judged, he did his time. Now I'm 100% behind you guys. Show the world how to do real good Metalcore.
''My own grave'' is so good turn that anger into the greatest Metal album ever!
This was so deep. I'm glad you guys are together again, I'd listen to you guys when I've been in a bad situation, or after my brain surgeries, just so cool to see my favorite band together again
You guys have been through so much... I've grown up listening to your music and I am so happy to hear you're all back together and finally reunited as friends. It's amazing the transition you guys have all gone through. I can't wait to come down and see you guys as a team again on November 6th in Dallas Texas. I have never been so excited to hear new music from another band until I heard about reuniting from you guys. I feel like I can connect on small level as you guys, a very similar situation happened to me a few of my best friends. I know it was nothing close to what Tim has done, but at least I have a small connection and can understand how you're feeling Tim.
Thank you for being honest and proving the people can change.... even if it's from the most extreme circumstances.
I can truly respect how open everyone is here.
It takes a real man to own up to his mistakes and apologize for all he's done. My heart goes out to all of you. I'm sure this wasn't an easy process...but I'm so fucking happy you dudes are back together making amazing music. I can't stop listening to the track...good Lord I can relate to the subject matter so much.
No one in life is perfect. If we're honest about our past mistakes and willing to change for the betterment of one's self and their loved ones...Forgiveness and healing will come about.
The first album I bought from you guys was Shadows Are Security...and it really saved my life as a teenager dealing with so much... Believe me when I say this: thank you for being alive and making music. I owe you guys my life and I support As I Lay Dying 1000 percent.
It takes an even bigger man not to hire someone to kill another person, you dumb fanboy
@@octo.lina69 Probably the biggest men like the other members of the band to be able to talk about this in depth and be able to surpass the bad things that have happened. You know, FORGIVENESS and stuff?
Dear friends,
I hear your music since I'm 15. Today, I'm 27! To see you re back, to hear what you were/ are struggling with makes me sad and makes me love you so so so SO DEEEPLY! I'm thankful for your music all over the years and I'm thankful that all of you discuss your conflicts, thankful that all of you are willing to forgive. If you can forgive, Im totally okay with it too. I love you all! Thank you for your openness!
Your friend A.
I watched their documentary and I watched this discussion. It took me to where nick is feeling all the baggage that he carried since Tims arrest, sentencing and release. This is something that is beyond music. For a grown man to shed tears for what his friend has done this more than just a band.
God protects Nick Hipa at all costs 🙏🏼
He just left the band.
Thank you for releasing this, it helped me move past some of my reservations as well and I really look forward to seeing what you guys can make of the situation. I know you guys will do what you feel is right and I hope you don’t let the future negativity get you down! I think I speak for millions when I say Welcome Back!
Nick's journey just reminds me of how instances (though not to the extent of what he/they went through and are going through) in my own life where I had become blinded by hate toward someone who had done something harmful/wrong to me and my refusal to forgive them, ended up creating my own 'prison.' That so called prison would then manifest itself negatively in me in physical and cognitive ways, but learning to forgive broke me out of that prison. The word 'forgiveness' is thrown around too often, but real forgiveness is messy, raw, not to be taken lightly, and for the person the wrong was done to, is ultimately the most freeing experience if you can get there. Thank you guys for being honest, open, and forthright about everything. I'm sure there's a long road ahead.
Such relief seeing you all together! Once you lay it all out there in person you let go of all that weight that is not necessary to live a positive life. I remember watching 94 hours years ago that feeling came back when I heard my own grave 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 last go let’s move forward from here 👍🏻 and thank you for this for all to see and the real fans out there watching keep supporting! This music is sometimes all we got 👍🏻
This is really hard to watch, for a number of reasons. The main one is you can still see the pain and even still some hatred for everything that went down. You can tell this was hard for them to actually finally sit down and let it all out. I love that they did this without any editing. They didn’t try to make this look all happy, they wanted to show us the struggle that they are all still going through, but it also shows something amazing... they are moving forward. To forgive someone for something as horrible as what he had done, is tough. Especially when it affects your life for years and years. I am happy they are coming back, and moving forward. Tim looks so sincere while they are all speaking their mind. This wasn’t made to look like everything was ok, but it still isn’t, you can tell. That is what I love about this video. It’s real. It shows true emotion, which is the staple point for as I lay dying... emotion.
The body language when certain things get said tho
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The pure emotion from nick gets me every time
i just watched this, and i can genuinely feel how Nick was feeling at the time he was speaking. Like all the pent up anger, depression, and remorse towards Tim was let out. Ill be honest i teared up cause Nick and the rest of the band did speak out for the rest of the AILD community. I'm very happy to see them back together.
Before watching: This band was one of my top faves growing up. A band of brothers. I have a tight group of guy friends around me whom I would do anything for. If they cry... I'm crying...
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After watching: Nick is crying and now I am crying.
I doubt this will ever reach you, Tim, but I saw AILD live in 2010 (Winnipeg). The way you guys carried yourselves on stage (as well as the amazing show itself) turned me from a casual listener to a huge fan.
I was absolutely gutted when everything went down, in shock that someone I looked up to so much was capable of going down such a dark path. It took a while to come to terms with it, and I hope I'll never be able to understand what was going through your mind during that time. I have a wife and two young kids, and just can't fathom what would ever bring me to wish harm on them. There's no way to justify what happened, but I think everyone deserves a chance to make up for the mistakes and choices they've made.
Ever since the trial, a part of me has been desperately hoping for this to happen. That you would turn your life around, and the band would find a way to forgive you, and somehow you guys would be able to keep stirring my soul with your music. I didn't think it would actually happen (and I just found out about this yesterday), but I want you to know that, even as a stranger you'll probably never meet, AILD has my full support going forward.
If you ever come back to Winnipeg, I'll be there.
I have and always will love this band. Glad to see them pull back together. Tim.. I believe in you man and I'm proud of the band giving you another chance. This is amazing and maybe now I'll finally get to see you play LIVE! I actually made a bucket list about 10 years ago for shits & giggles. Seeing you in concert was in my top 5. Now, I'll finally actually have a chance to finish it. I'm still so blown away by this. This band will always get a Zeppy seal of approval! Kick some ass As I Lay Dying!! 👍👍
holy fuck. this is. this is brotherhood. I am so teary eyed listening to this. I am here an I will follow this journey. fan since 2006. forever will be after hearing this. these guys put there heart on there sleeve. I love you guys. genuine.
...Well this didn't last long.
They kept referring to "what he did". Say it. I tried to have my wife murdered. Then I will buy your sincerity. Props to Phil for being so honest. Nick, you shouldn't be having to hold back. Say what you mean brother, those tears don't come from no where. Tim, I'm so glad you have come from where you were. I have supported AILD since Frail Words Collapse came out when I was a teenager. Don't hide from your mistakes. Own them. Speak them. Grow. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, I'm in tears after watching this and as a musician I am heartbroken by you, Tim. I am glad you have made the steps you have to grow. Peace.
I've not long stumbled upon your band, love your music. Thank you for doing this guys.
Super awesome of you guys to put this out there for everyone to see. I can't express how cool it is to have a band that helped me through a lot in my life come back from what seemed like a permanent hiatus. Much love to you guys as you work towards your goals and push on through what's going on in your lives.