How to Grow a Thick Beard & Stubble with Science - FOOLPROOF Ultimate Guide
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- Anyone telling you to use beard oil for hair growth, take biotin, or use some sort of wash is full of crap. Forget what you think you know about beards.
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Cosmetic Chemist takes you through what actually works for growing a beard and the simple steps you can take to have the facial hair of your dreams. Complete with common questions, myths, issues and more. You will learn exactly what to use, how to use it and an ideal routine to maximize beard growth.
Have a question about your specific routine? Drop it in the comments and I will help answer your questions.
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L-Carnitine L-Tartrate
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Minoxidil 5% Foam
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Tretinoin (.01%, .025% or .05%) - Recommend going to your Doctor First
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What do u think about redensyl for beard?
So I would be very curious to see this get results. Redensyl+Procapil+capixyl (RPC)seems to be a very effective combo on paper. I have it in my fridge and made a serum, but I haven’t tried it out and I already got great gains from minox, so that could skew it. I made my lady the same serum, so she is a current test for head hair.
What makes me skeptical is The Ordinary has a hair serum with Redensyl and I haven’t see anyone preaching its praises for hair growth or anything. Like if it was comparable to Minoxidil, I feel like someone would be preaching about it. Also, RPC doesn’t have side effects and when side effects are completely absent, that’s questionable.
So ultimately, no conclusion yet, will see my gfs hair results and see if I get additional growth soon when I startup.
@@The.ModernMan wow thanx for the quick reply ,on reddit they precisely mention this brand a lot, I wanted to try 5% redensyl the thing is I am severe non responder even with 10% and tretinoin so want something else with derma, currently hopped on oral minox(won't recommend to anyone else)
@@singh.jayesh1866 my man’s tried oral minox! Damn! I would also try Stemoxydine, as that seems to be a little better than 2% minoxidil and I have seen actual evidence of it working. That’s wild you go no response with tret and minox. Like literally no hair growth?
Whereabouts you located? Happy to send over some of the serum I made for free if you track the progress. I made it with 3% Redensyl, 5% Capixyl and 3% Procapil, since that is what the studies used. Shit, if it actually works, maybe can sell it haha. I also made it with high end penetration enhancers, so if it’s gonna work, this is the formulation for it.
@@The.ModernMan I live in India, actually that combo is sold as hair regenrative product here by some brand, I am skeptical of it due to capxyil and procapil, one of them I guess is a DHT blocker and it's not abundantly clear if beard follicles are stimulated by free testosterone or DHT, bcoz I am 5alpha ar deficient and low in DHT throughout life( until recently I have taken a lot of steps to raise those). I do have a passable beard but it's very patchy or non dense on cheeks is a better way of putting it and nothing seems to work. Primarily reason for patchiness is actually DHT deficiency bcoz my test is always in 650-800 range even when not exercising. So I take boron to curb shbg to raise free test and raised DHT too and skeptical about taking anything on face that blocks DHT bcoz I have a hunch that DHT plays a role in perhaps follicle maturation or something for sure where hair growth is androgenic
@@The.ModernMan we actually talked on insta via me having a smurf account, yeah I got the A6 pen and pinning my hopes on it, bcoz that seems to work regardless of anything just want something solid for topical application, I am also trying topical AKG seems promising in a study although seems not to translate to humans
An incredible video that's covering everything I wanted to know about beard growth therapy and stuff. Thank you so much!
Thanks mate. May the gains be with you.
Grow it out! Sick gains
Hmm, maybe will give it a shot. Good stuff.
May the gains be with you sir
Helpful video. You have nice skin so I'm inclined to trust you
You know 💅
This is awesome. Thanks
Gotchu 👊
Wow, this is a really high-quality video. I have checked your other videos and I love your content. Greetings from a new subscriber :)
Hey thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Welcome aboard! Holler at me on IG if I can help with anything. I am going to remember everyone who rolled with me in these early stages :).
@@The.ModernMan I might be stupid, but what is your IG? It seems like a lot of profiles have the same name.
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Yeah it’s a pain to find. I’ll have to put the links in all my descriptions.
Hello, thanks for the video, really helpful. I’ve been applying a beard oil (90% jojoba oil) after I dermaroll. Do you think this oil does any good? Or do you think it’s better to just put moisturizer after dermarolling (I use Cerave PM moisturizer)? Thanks man.
Hey! Thanks for this great detailed video. Quick question: I have just built a skincare routine for my husband. He has oily skin in some areas issues with acne scares and discoloration. Because of his oily skin we mainly used salicylic acid based products in his routine. Now that he wanted to introduce minoxidil I read that salicylic acid could hinder the effects of minoxidil. Is that correct ?
And also what do you think of this routine
Face wash (creave, contains SA)- Arbutin serum- tretinoin- minoxidil- sunscreen
Great work, keep on doing 👍
Great video, i also loved your input on reddit before!
What would you suggest for someone with already compromised skin barrier? I already paused 2 weeks, but it still seems irritated and gets worse when i apply unfortunately. Before that i applied 3 months without any problems. Any advice would be great, thanks in advance!
So a clean break of just basic washing face and moisturizer is good. Try something like Cerave healing ointment, La Roche Posay Cicaplast Baum B5, or aquaphor. These are all great at aiding with barrier repair. Most people are good within a week with these if they ease off other things
This is such a helpful and precise to the point video! Great job thank you! One question regarding Tretinoin: since this is very difficult to buy due to prescription in Germany, shall I give retinol a shot? Like Paulas Choice 1% Retinol treatment?
Any online places do subscriptions? Not sure how that works there. I historically would buy them from Canadian pharma and I’m in the US.
Retinol should technically have some impact because it converts. The minoxidil study with tret used .01 strength. So it‘s a matter of how much retinol converts to retinaldehyde which converts to tretinoin. This is not exactly known and I’ve read about estimates of up to 10% but some people may process differently.
Might I recommend the geek & gorgeous a game since you’re in the UK. This is a nice Retinaldehyde serum that is well formulated, fair priced and would take a step out of the conversion process.
@@The.ModernMan Great thank you for you fast reply! I ordered the 5% A Game Retinal to start with and will see how my skin reacts to this. If I can tolerate it, I may switch o the 10% solution. Thank you, I am really looking forward to some hopeful beard gains in combination with minoxidil
How long before sleep should i apply the minoxidil? When it dries within 30-40 minutes?
good fucking channel , keep it up man great content
Thank you my guy, really appreciate it. Now let's grow some sick fkn fall/winter beards.
For my skincare routine, I exfoliate twice per week. What do you recommend the time be between exfoliating and derma rolling?
Also, when exfoliating and using Minoxidil would you exfoliate after applying minoxidil?
It's hard to say becuase it depends on the depth of the derma rolling and the method of exfoliation. Chemical, physical, what ingredient?
Dermarolling accomplishes the same job as exfoliating, so there isn't a ton of need to exfoliate within a few days of it. If chemical exfoliant, it won't matter much either way. If physical, I would do it before because you have to rinse it off and it's good to clear dead skin cells.
Hit me with those routine questions and anything beardcare, haircare or skincare!
Do you have to continue use for eyebrow maintenance? Does minox work like it does for head hair on eyebrows or like beard hair where it's permanent gains if you taper off?
So I haven't seen anything about permanent gains with eyebrow and i've stopped then seen hairs fall out. If I had to take a really unscientific guess, because facial hair gets so much thicker, something about that keeps the hairs around after they fully mature. I personally find eyebrow minoxidil dummy easy to maintain since I already use it on my hairline and it's one drop each eyebrow.
Great video. I'm 19 years old and my brother and father have both grown full beards. Right now I have a decent amount of hairs on my moustache, chin and some on my cheeks but I admit I'm impatient and would rather have a full beard in the next year or two rather then wait up to 5 years. I was wondering if using minoxidil would be fine despite knowing i most probably have the genetic potential to eventually grow a full beard? I'm not sure if it could possibly hinder my potential to grow a full beard or something. Thanks
It won’t impact the growth of what would have grown over years negatively.
Yeah, I know I had a small amount of facial hair at 19, and had much more naturally by my later 20s.
I’d say give it a shot, not much downside. Just take care of your skin too.
@@The.ModernMan Alrighty thanks very much. Great content btw best of luck in growing your channel
Hey, dude! Thanks for the video. I see in the picture that in 2 months you got some visible growth. But when did you start seeing first results? How soon since you started?
2 -3 months was when I noticed good difference. It’s not super easy to tell in the picture, but the change in 30-40% more hairs, made a huge difference When actually growing it out.
Some people start from less and end up with more, we are all different.
It kept getting better up to like 6-9 months, then from there I have stayed pretty much the same.
@@The.ModernMan Thank you! Patience is everything. I've been on it for a little over a month now, and can't wait to see anything to get reassured it's working for me
@@NickOcheredko If you're on at least Minox+Tret, you will more than likely get gains. I didn't notice anything in month one, so just hang tight. If you haven't noticed ANYTHING(take pics) by month 3 and you have been on just Minox, try adding in the other stuff from this video.
@@alolavar Beardwiki's FAQ says the longest average period when you should see some growth is 16 weeks (3 months and 3 weeks). It also mentions that some people see it happen even beyond this time. So I know I've got to be patient with it before panicking or trying to resort to other stuff or methods. Thank you for your comment!
I was just wondering what the issue is with putting moisturiser on after only 2 minutes of letting the minoxidil sit becuase my face usually gets very dry if i just leave it with just minoxidil for that long
You can do that, the important thing is to not spread the minoxidil everywhere so we can minimize unwanted hair growth in other areas. Just if the surface of your skin is still wet from minoxidil, you may spread it. You could moisturize immediately after if you just do the top half of your face first, then the bottom half.
Can I use minoxidil on top of slugging?, I apply Aquaphor in the evening after tretinoin, would the minoxidil still work?
Yea, but you would want to apply it before aquaphor, or it won’t get through the petrolatum.
Hey mate I’m just wondering if there’s anything I can do to get around a general plateau with minox. I’ve been using it for about a year now and initially I saw great results until i started taking finasteride. I’ve tried taking fin every other day but I think my dht levels have nuked so much now that the progress is pretty much stagnant. I was able to get completely vellus hair coverage within the first 2-3 months but after introducing fin it’s shedded and basically just whispy hairs. Would topical fin be a good option or would that still be systemic. Thanks!!!
So according to the study that found a link between dht and beard growth, it’s only linear growth. So it would slow down how long it takes them to grow, but that’s wild you have started shedding. I was on dutasteride coming from finasteride and didn’t see an impact(back on fin now).
Topical fin could be a great option, as it doesn’t get introduced into the system as much as oral. I personally would feel like I’m missing spots with topical finasteride and be paranoid about that and my head hair takes priority. But that could definitely help.
Were you on the trifecta? Minox+Tret+Needling?
I would make sure I’m on that with 2x a day Minox, throwing in LCLT for good measure. From there, if you plateau, you are likely at or very close to your max potential. I saw jumps in gains when I added in tret, and then needling.
@@The.ModernMan hey man I actually sent you a more in-depth reddit message if you’re able to check it that would be amazing!! Thanks a gain
Also, if you do something like topical finasteride and that impacts. Post that shittt. I normally don’t love using anecdotes, but this is an area so heavily missing great studies.
can i use minox in the am (once a day) and tret in the pm? or do i NEED to use them together?
They don't need to be at the same time. You would get the best overlap that way though. As far as how that would impact results, I'm not sure. Tret will still upregulate sulfotransferase regardless though. This was a great question I've never seen someone ask. That certainly seems more convenient and sustainable than applying then waiting to apply the next piece.
Hey man, thank you so much for all the advice!
I have a short beard rn, at around 1.5 inches long, and I’m trying to apply foam minoxidil 5%.
I just wanted to ask:
1: Is ur fine to maintain this length or should I trim down/shave for better absorption with the foam?
2: How should I wash the skin beneath the beard? I usually use beard shampoo but how many times a day can I do that? I’ve seen people say you should clean your face before applying minox, and then 4h after.
3: Should I be applying beard oil after minox to combat dryness? And if so, how long after? Since I have a beard, it feels weird to apply moisturiser to the beard hair and skin, is that even possible?
1.5 in ia pretty long! If I had that of a beard, i'd probably switch to a dropper because it's much easier to get between hairs and apply.
As for the skin beneath the beard, it varies person to person. Is the skin dry, is it getting pimples? Beard vs no beard, my routine doesn't change much.
Yeah honestly it feels kind of weird. When I had a beard around that length, I just washed my face like normal, applied minoxidil, applied a moisturizer and then a nice hair oil or balm to the beard afterwards. But the beard balm/hair oil wasn't for my skin, it was because the face wash takes oils out of the beard and if I didn't balm/oil up, my beard just wasn't as nice looking or manageable, especially towards the ends.
I've never used a beard shampoo, so it's hard for me to say much about that in particular. My gut reaction is that it is probably overly drying because men's companies very rarely make great products, so I could see them just grabbing some generic formula and throwing it in a bottle, and most shampoos are much too strong for face skin. But I could be wrong and maybe it's a great mild formulation, or maybe it works for you regardless.
@@The.ModernMan Hi, thank you for your fast and detailed reply!
I was reluctant to use the dropper just because I heard it has worse side effects, but maybe I should since I have a beard already.
My skin is usually pretty decent, not too dry or oily, it gets a bit dry after a hot shower and a bit oily if I don’t wash it for long, not really any pimples thank god.
As for washing the face, sorry if this sounds silly, but do you apply your cleanser/face wash to your beard too? I.e the skin under your facial hair (if you have a long beard).
Also, do I need to wash my face every time I apply minoxidil and 4 hours after each application? Wouldn’t that be too much washing and stripping natural oils?
And finally, how long after applying minoxidil can I apply moisturiser and beard oil, and can I apply both to the same area?
Thank you!!
Yeah, I usually am cleaning my full face.
No, there's no need to wash your face after minoxidl. I usually only recommend washing 1x a day unless you find a morning wash or something helps you.
Yeah you can apply both to the same area. You can apply moisturizer immediately so long as you don't spread it everywhere.
@@The.ModernMan ah I see
So how does this routine sound
Early morning wash face (including beard) with cleanser, apply minoxidil.
After 10 min apply moisturiser (face only) and beard oil
After 10h apply minox, 10 min later apply moisturiser (face only) and beard oil
And sleep, wake up rinse repeat? Sounds very basic, no dermaroll etc
@@The.ModernMan hey so I trimmed down and I just wanted to ask:
If I wash my face and moisturise when it’s still damp (to lock in the moisture) and then after like 5-10 min apply foam minox, will that effect my results negatively?
I read that it’s not good to apply moisturiser to dry skin or else it will draw out more moisture
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I have the genetics to grow a beard but I used minoxidil to speed it up. If I stop minoxidil will I not be able to grow a beard naturally?
It depends really. If they hairs would've grown regardless, nothing will change. If the hair would not have grown in the first place without the aid of minoxidil, those may not stick around. There is a decent chance for a good amount of the beard hair you gain from minxoidil to stick around though, vs head hair always goes away.
So i am thinking to use cera ve moisturizer, minox and tret in combination
But i am confused about applications
I am thinking to put minox first i have a foam based and after that to mix tret and cera e moisturizer and apply on the whole face beard plus other areas
Please let me know what do you think about it
And also is 1 time use of minox fine?
So Try this.
Minoxidil -> Tretinoin -> Cerave. Alternatively if you find irritation issues, try Cerave before Tretinoin.
Don't mix Tret & Cerave. It is effectively diluting the % and can create an inconsistent application..
Once a day use of Minoxidil is fine. 2x has better performance, but it isn't like night and day difference, it's fairly minor.
Thanks for the rapid response man u are savior
I am double something like this
Cleanse face
Liquid minox
Wait 10 mins
Tret (although have some trouble spreading it on all the face)
Then moisture
How does it sound like let me know?
Thanks for such a great content always wanted something like this😊
@@AmanKumar-qx2wl can always dab the tret all over to make it easier to spread evenly. My tret cream spreads so poorly.
This sounds like a good plan my guy.
And thank you! Comments like this keep me going. Love helping dudes out with actual knowledge/specialization vs just reading the first few google result or echoing what someone else on CZcams says. Too much of that.
Hey man, can I use a water based 5% minoxidil serum instead of alcohol one?
What brand? So it may still work, but the efficacy will most likely be impacted. Both alcohol and propylene glycol are penetration enhancers for ingredients. Since Minoxidil is a water soluble ingredient, it has a tougher time getting through the skin without the aid of these ingredients. This is why microneedling is impactful, it helps increase absorption.
@@The.ModernMan It's an Indian brand named "man matters" making many products including minoxidil serum especially for beard growth. Thanks for your explanation I got your points, what brand do you suggest generally for beard?
@@zuberahad not sure what’s available if you are in India(assuming because Indian brand). There’s a lot of options in the US from Rogaine, to Kirklands, to generics at the drugstore and then sites like keeps and hims.
thoughts on oral castor oil for beard growth?
This is an interesting one. I hadn’t heard of this taken orally for hair until MPMD covered it. I wasn’t able to find any studies for that, even though I don’t think everything needs a study to be true. I personally took it daily for a few weeks and don’t notice any changes, but everyone is different. In general though, I care less about the linear growth than I do the general density and follicle count.
Have you tried it?
@@The.ModernMan yes, I am trying it, I started yesterday, we will see, I will tell you about my experience in the next weeks
@@andresroman9544 sick, please do.
bro i have been consistently using minoxidil for 2 years straight but very low gains. any suggestions?
How old are you? Pretty much everything in this video man.
I keep hearing that you shouldn’t apply minoxidil right after micro-needling, and to give it 24 hours before the next application. True?
While this isn't specifically studied on its own, if you are looking to minimize Minoxidil-based side effects and maximize safety, this is a smart option. That being said, several of the studies with Minoxidil and Needling either performed the application before needling or right after with no issue. My personal experience was very similar with my preferred method being applying minoxidil about an hour before needling.
If creatine increases dht, how would this affect beard growth?
DHT impacts linear hair growth. So when it is reduced, hair count remains the same, but they grow slower.
Would you recommend dosages of 1 ml?
1 ml of what? If minox, you only need a few drops. 1 ml is the dose for your full scalp.
@@The.ModernMan gotcha, thanks!
Has anyone had good results with just stemox? Any pics?
I’ve mostly seen really mild results on Reddit.
@@The.ModernMan some results are better than none, I have the hairs but they are just abit thin and have blonde ends. Wondering if it would help thicken them?
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Haha, old video, my b.
great content! I'm not a man lol but will show vid to my guy friends
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