Ilford Ortho Plus | Developing under Red Light
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Interested in trying out Ilfords new Ortho Plus Film I ordered two rolls of 36-35mm and
totally intended to sabotage one of the rolls in the darkroom. The other save for another day.
So why?
Well, I have never shot Orthochromatic Film before and although I read up on it's characteristics I was interested to
find out for myself if I could develop the film in the darkroom under my safelights.
I was also interested to see how it looked shooting at a Red subject. Being Ortho it is not sensitive to Red
but I wanted to see for myself before I went out on the field with it.
I ended up using Yellow, Green and Orange Filters and to speed things up cooked the film for a minute in Kodak D76 at 40°!
The video shows my experiment and results. It's always good to experiment for yourself.
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I've never seen a film developing in front of my eyes like a photopaper 😮
Very interesting again . I'am the moderator from a Dutch photo and darkroom forum " Foto en Doka Forum " . I have made a link on our forum to your video . I hope you get some Dutch viewers also . Peter .
Thankyou Peter.
Interesting how green behaved. I am not excited by the ortho film for landscape. But greens look brighter and might be the answer in the woods. But you achieved the same result using a yellow filter on hp5. Great insights and an excellent video. Thanks!
6:38 A round of ortho shots for everybody at the bar. ;)
Lol
Your ways of explaining and your personality is just awesome. Seems so genuine. Love your work!
Thanks. Just being me and how I see it.
Thanks for the nice experiment!
👍Thanks again for the effort you put into doing these tests.
Another great lesson. Many thanks!!
Thank you for actually doing a review that actually includes helpful information.
Fantastic video. Love seeing the film developing in real time. Also, great comparison of the filters, the effects of those on HP5 is quite dramatic. Thank you for making these videos!
Thank you for doing this. It's a fascinating look at what's actually happening inside the developing tank that we don't normally see.
Thank you for this Ortho Plus 80 update as we, including myself go down this path. PS Love the on-screen timer. Stuart
The amount of effort you put into your videos is very impressive. I have learnt so much and this is certainly one of your best. Great to see the ortho results. Fantastic channel - you are the Boss
Love how methodical you are, if there is one lesson from all the videos I will take away it is this. Thanks
Loved it! really interesting !
Wow, great work!, thank you!
Portrait, seascape, landscape, architecture, ...? Yes :). Thanks for this vid: really interesting.
Very Interesting, you have explained the process so well again, and i really appreciate your explanation on the use of filters. Thank You.
No blue filter try a blue lolly wrapper over the lens. Sweet 🍬 🥂
Thanks very much, very interesting !
Interesting experiment!
Yesssss! Never knew how much I needed my favorite film-mad scientist to have a go at experimenting with my favorite film (you are so much more creative with these things than I)!
😂
Jealous!! This new film looks great fun. Thanks for the fab video
Seascape and architecture! Curious to see how this stock performs with those applications in particular. Seascapes should be really interesting!
Great enthusiasims Jess, and IMAGES!! Being in Oz...SNOW? Yes please! Will try this film in 4x5!!
Great video, thanks for letting us see pictures appearing on the film. A shoot with different kinds of subjects would be nice, could make it possible to judge which kind of photography this film is suitable for.
Thank you so much 😊 I’m about to shoot some 4x5 old stock . It be so helpful
Some portraits. Pls
friggin awesome
A portrait would be nice, interesting to see how it handles
Great video mate! I reckon you should put some portraits and landscapes on that second roll
Looking that way. Thanks!
The cows. Shooting Ilford SFX ISO 200, Delta ISO 100. CineStill B&W XX negative film ISO 200/250, based on what type of light. My favorite is film photography project. The Frankenstein roll ISO 200 EXP 24. The blacks are pure black, the whites are clear. With 18% gray in the middle.
Thanks!
Landscape, portrait and a street shot would be interesting to see which genre works best with Ortho
Great results and very useful....I used to shoot Delta 100 developed in Precsysol (tanning developer no longer available in U.K.)....now it's FP4 in stock ID11 (superb).....I've just received 3x rolls of 120 Ortho Plus to be run through the Bronicas and the old Nettar.....would love to see your landscape and seascape results using Ortho
Another interesting and informative video, D76 at 45 degrees, and in a shot glass, not seen that before, can't wait for the next installment😂
Ha ha, I'd have been bored silly at 8 mins waiting. Apparently press togs used to speed Dev like that if they needed to get a print in the paper last minute before press. So I heard.
Really interesting Mrrrr Bonnnnd! SO......SO now we find out that not all BnW film give's consistent BnW results!!
This 'analogue' photography thing realllllllly shows how much we can learn using real photography variables.
It don't stop Iain. It's why I love shooting film.
I love street photography (though I avoid cities or even "down town" myself ) , maybe try that ship again. weather permitting.
Great video and experiment. Be awesome to try get a range of subjects for the 2nd roll. Maybe a portraits and seascapes. I’m curious about how skies, particularly blue skies would render.
It's looking that way Michael
Thank you for creating such informative content! Great work, great channel!
Ilford recommend that you shoot Ortho at ISO 40 in tungsten light. That's probably true for orange filter as well. What if you overexpose by one and two stops the next time? It would be very interesting to see the result.
That would make sense.
This is absolutely a great video about the film and how it works, but dont judge it just by the video. Get out and shoot some stuff on it. I did a few rolls in niagra falls on it so far and it might be my favorite black and white film yet. It has the look, cant quite describe it but some of the shots of the falls (basicaly landscape photography) are my favorite because of the contrast in the washed out skys vs the trees, buildings and water. And the rest shot at night of bright signs just look incredible even tho this is a slow film. Honestly just try it out, dev for more contrast and I think you will like it
Great video. Very useful resource. I'd really like to see how this film reacts to skin tones, because my initial reaction was "it won't be very flattering".
I think it's gotta be on the list!
Follow up video shooting buildings & landscape. Just for the fun, add a couple mug shots of people with red hair freckles. 👩🦰
I shoot ortho loaded into a Minox Spy Camera, the film gets cut into 7.5 mm film strips and then loaded into the minox cartridge. With Ortho this can all happen under safelight which makes the job so much easier. It also lets me tray process the Ortho film.
I shoot Wet Plates and collodion is orthochromatic, so I'm super excited about this film because now I can get similar color reactive results on film in 135 and 120! You should shoot some fruit! the Ortho look with different textures is really interesting!
Cheers Jamie. I didn't know collodion was ortho!
Just purchased 2 rolls. Interesting to see the results. They say it's supposed to be ideal for landscape photography. Interesting to see what effect it has.
That's what I read Minisla
And I was just about to head to bed
Me too, good night
Sorry lol,
fascinating, i might try this in 4x5, seems it might be easier to load and dev with a safe light on
Yeah just do some little tests first make sure your lights are safe enough
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I'm going to try red led, according to ilfords specs a red led should be safe, but yes I will definitely test!
Great video! Thanks so much. Have you ever experimented with Fomapan Ortho Film?
Not yet. I have with the Silberra Ortho film. I thinks that's the only other one.
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :-) It's feet up time :-)
I'm going to experiment with this film aswell. But I'm using one of these cheap ebay red lasers without the lense as light. According to google ortho film is not sensitive beyond 590 nm, the laserdiodes are 650 nm. I have no idea what kind of light your bucket solution produces. It might still pass a lot of other wavelengths even if it appears red.
Remember to always have a spare shot glass in the darkroom, and that developer always tastes better with a dash of Silver Halide, (It must be true, I saw it on the internet!).
Ha ha. I'm on the wagon so had to put the shot glass to some use
Do all kinds of images - maybe a red head for a portrait? Interesting video altogether.
I did wonder how a red head would look
Preferably with green eyes!
@@MakersTeleMark I'll have to put an ad out. Wanted male or female with red hair, freckles, green eyes and don't mind being on CZcams 🤔
Wecome back to the 1920's! Also I have NEVER painted the walls of my darkrooms black as there is no point. Just ensure absolute light blocking and minimise the red safe lighting for B&W printing.
Great demonstration. Extensively thorough. No gloves. Is developer somewhat toxic?
I've no broken skin and I wash my hands after each dip. I wouldn't touch some like selenium or bleaches. It's only finger dipping. On large prints I usually glove up as my whole hands are usually in the Chem's.
Thanks for the video. I think it will be enjoying to make solarisation on Ilfırd Ortho since it is well controllable during development? What do you think?
Almost definitely! Even better on 4x5 so you can see the neg better but not sure there is any 4x5 ortho
So, how does this ortho film behave on a darkroom enlarger, with Ilford contrast filters? Thanks!
Same as panchro film Paulo. The negative has its own tonal values and the filters adjust the contrast of the paper.
How much exposure compinsation are you using with the filters? Good experiment.
I used the cameras meter. The yellow and green were a stop, the orange 2 and the red was 3
Roger, great to see how this "new" film performs. Is the Ilford Ortho film a must for hipsters, or is there a real application behind???
I honestly don't know. I'd shoot it for just being enquizitive.
I greatly dislike blue skies when shooting BW. This may be a solution to that, as it would render blue skies darker
@@timverheijen2622 use a red or orange filter with a pan film will get your dramatic blue sky
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss true! But that's not a good excuse to shoot the new Ortho film is it? ;)
@@timverheijen2622 ha ha saves putting a filter on
Do they still have those red postboxes in the UK? They should come out nearly black, I think.
They do. Strange you say that as when researching this film I was looking at very early cine footage of London purposely looking for post boxes and busses. And yes, they were dark!
Why didnt you try a blue filter?
I don't have one! 😬 But if I did...
Instead of red it would be nice to see blue filter on hp5 ;)
I've not got a blue filter 😬
I'd like to see at least one portrait. Should turn lips (and blemishes) dark or black.
Yes, rosy cheeks, freckles, red lips. Dark.
We used to use a green filter for portraits to make skin tones correct.
@@neilpiper9889 with ortho film?
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss In the early 20th century, when movie film was Ortho, the actors wore light blue lipstick so their lips wouldn't look black.
Haven't tried it so don't know, but I'd guess that ortho isn't great for portraits. But only way to know is to try. :-)
@@scottparis6355 yes I read that. And green make up too! How funny would that have been on set watching the actor come out in blue / green make up!
Ah I'm so glad you shared these tests! Helped save me some time and experimentation of my own so thank you! Since you asked about other people's experiences, this was my test of Ortho Plus, albeit in 4x5 sheet film: instagram.com/p/B4xXtYojJZd
The tractor was a rust color so I was super curious how it might turn out. The tractor is a bit darker than when I shot the same tractor on ADOX CHS ii but not by all that much. And actually it rendered basically perfect - it's exactly how I'd hoped it would look! I exposed a few others sheets that day though for the most part they looked "normal". Above is a scan. I plan on darkroom printing it soon though to see if the differences might be more pronounced. Overall I rather like it and yep will definitely shoot more of the stuff!
Oh and I processed this in XTOL Replenishment so not super comparable for most folks but it's the same developer I use for almost all my black and white photography (I think it's maybe not so great for Pancro 400 but haven't had a chance to test that further).
So that Tractor was totally rusted? Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to show this
Lightmeter and Ortho is not a good thing. UV light can be very different from the Lightmeter measurement. A bright sunny day could be like a 400 iso pan film. An afternoon in winter could be like a 4 iso paper. I think necessary a lot of practice with the same lens, same camera, etc. etc. Portraits in controlled light or in a usual place is easier than the landscape photography. Practice and experience is better than the light metering with ortho film.
How new is this film?
Ilford released it last month
why did the red filter make the film turn into colour on the ortho excuse me???
Ha ha magic filter
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss someone is going to beleive you
Could somebody tell me why the film as been released, I don't understand the point of it, as it some special use or something ?. Personally I would have been more impressed if Ilford had actually done something useful and released Kentmere in 120 format....Not a criticism of you Roger love your channel.
I also wondered why Harry. I guess it must have been on demand for Ilford to produce it. Rollei have theirs. Jamie rodregous is excited as he is used to ortho shooting wetplate.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss don't they use it in dentistry/medical?
Well, some people just like to mess around with different films; they'll play with this one and move on to something else. Also, even though panchromatic film first became available in the early 1900s, orthochromatic films were still widely used throughout the '30s because they were less expensive and could be developed “by inspection” under a red safelight. So if you want a 1920s look to your photos this is one way to get it.
Wear gloves, please