New Dacia Jogger HYBRID review - best hybrid ever? | What Car?
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In this new Dacia Jogger Hybrid review we find out if this seven-seat budget champion is the best hybrid you can buy.
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I live in Portugal and got my ECO-G (petrol/LPG hybrid) a month ago and, with actual, real world consumption, have worked out that it's an annual saving of exactly £1000 from the petrol version. Also, I had no problem getting up a 6500 foot mountain with seven people (and a picnic) at normal speed, with no overheating and only a slight increase in fuel consumption. Also, because it only cost £18,000, and it's only 999cc, I pay 350 quid per annum for fully comprehensive insurance! Since I work for a living, the verdict is: Drives great, loads of space, all the gadgets and saves me money... why would you NOT buy a Dacia Jogger?!?
Why to not buy one ,the stupid electric handbrake,they only come on if the car is stationary,the high loading cill in the boot after seeing that I walked away
@@davidmunro2077 some small cars also did this ( like pug 107 with their buttons instead of old lever brake)
it be good if they also add that old xtrail gen 1 roof lamp lol
@@davidmunro2077 Electric handbrake should only be in extreme versions or part of additional packs for lower trims.
I agree.
@@Theomba1 It IS only on the 'Extreme' version (and hybrid).
Worth saying that the second row of seats also fold upwards as well (not shown in the video) so you really do have a flat floor boot space once the additional seats are removed - brilliant set up!
Having driven both I’d also recommend the hybrid - much more refined with the auto box as well as the greater power - in my test drive I was seeing over 60 mpg and I live in a hilly area so surprised how low it was in this review
(not shown in the video) - learn not to use this method off pointing facts
@@XzzVttll not sure what the problem is - perhaps a better command of English would help 👍
Actually, the second row is attached to bar that theoretically CAN be removed, albeit by undoing two large bolts (rather than pulling little red toggles). It's probably a bit of a chore, but if you exceptionally need a huge (but not flat) bed for an extra large load...
Thx guys for buying our Romanian car! We re very proud of it
thanks for making a car for the people :)
@@todorkolev7565 BG?
I would recommend the hybrid we have had ours for 2 weeks now and are getting 63 miles to the gallon
So.. this is about the best looking proper estate one can buy at the moment.
Just because it's an estate it automatically looks better than majority of SUV's.
And to top off the pretty good looks, it comes with symmetrical wheels. Well done Dacia!!!
It also got great ride height like a suv. I wouldnt pay extra for the hybrid version though
best looking? What are u? Dacia marketing employee?
Beauty is on the eye of the beholder, as they say. It's fugly.
A sign of an excellent auto journalist is their ability to keep their audience thoroughly engaged, while featuring a pretty modest vehicle (not without its merits).
Handsome front end on Dacia's these days.
The plastics on the interior are no worse, probably last longer, than those in the id3. You could get at least two of these cars for one of them. Who's ripping who off?
Perfect surfer car. Big enough for boards, big enough to sleep in if you remove the larger middle seat.
I really enjoyed this video. So clear, paced, informative, well-presented and entertaining. So much better than many alternative channels. Thank you. I really don't know why anyone needs anything more than this car to transport loads/family. It does everything for 90 percent of people.
I think its worth mentioning though that the 110 tce is a 3 cylinder 1 litre engine that also has a turbo to worry about whereas the hybrid has a 1.6 naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engine which some may prefer. Granted you have a more complicated hybrid setup which may come with its own set of challenges but i personally would take it over the other one especially considering the weight you will have to carry around with 7 people in the car.
it`s more than worth to mention that,huge difference actually.
It doesn't have 4 gears. There are 4 gears on the thermic motor and 2 gears on the electric motor. So it still has 6 gears but they are managed completely differently.
As far i know it have 14 or something combinations of gears and it is a bit complicated.😊
@@rafa-qq7xm you're just a troll
@@GabrielGheorghe795 why?
I agree, in every presentation of the hybrid version they complain about the 4 gears but they always forgot to mention that this car don't need the two first short gear because everything is handled by the electric motor until 45mph.... If they have gone up to 55mph we could even assimilate it to a 7 gears 😅
Thanks Dr.Obvious
I think this is the best 7 seater ever made, especially since it has hybrid technology.
My Ford Galaxy begs to differ. I looked at one of these recently. They’re tight in the back in comparison. Definitely a nice car but nowhere near the same level of space. On top of that the back seats having to be taken out and not folding flat is a pain. Can’t fit three booster seats across the back either so unless your kids are 11 years old or more it’s not going to work whereas a Galaxy can. I completely get they’re different prices but I’d take a second hand Galaxy over the jogger currently
@@murphyebass7837 and when your second hand Galaxy breaks, you will pay through your nose to repair it.
@murphyebass7837 Right. I went to look at one and they’ve really messed up by not having adjustable middle row like all Renault MPVs have. My teenager couldn’t fit without his knees pressed against the front seats. They’ve made what are essentially meant to be “occasional” third row seats MORE roomy than the middle row and that makes no sense because more often than not you need the boot. Would have bought one were it not for this. As for hybrid, Toyota are masters of hybrid tech - genuine 60mpg average across driving types vs 45 for this.
My old Toyota Avensis Verso was a brilliant 7 seater, sad they stopped making it.
It's not £3k for marginally better performance and economy though. It you factor in the cost of an automatic transmission, which is at least a £1.5 - £2k option for most manufacturers, the actual cost of the hybrid system is much more reasonable. I really like my 110tce Jogger, but would have definitely gone for this if it was available when I ordered last year
Same here. I got my Jogger in 2022 not long after it was launched. I find the 1.0 quite fun to drive, however I came from a long line of Toyotas, many of which were hybrid and I'd have definitely picked the hybrid if it was an option to me, but I don't feel like I'm missing out a lot by having the 1.0. It's a surprisingly good engine
@@mitchreeves1 Agree. Plus the more of my day that seems to be spent in stop start traffic, the more sense the automatic hybrid makes
44MPG, Whats the point? The point is you are not driving it like a hybrid. If you were you get returns much more than 44. I after 1600 miles have a return of 66MPG.
You look ahead, keep your distance, use brake mode to slow down and you will see that MPG sky rocket .
I was wondering the same. I get 46 in my 1ltr! Jogger!. Clearly the presenter here has a heavy trotter.
@@TheHughsie
When he said that i nearly spat my coco pops out
@@TheHughsie That's true of almost all car review channels though. Some of the figures they quote have me wondering if they stopped by a circuit for a few laps while doing their testing...
I used to find the same with several toyota hybrids that I've owned. Reviewers always claimed 15-20mpg less than what I was getting out of it. Makes me wonder what on earth they were doing? 😂
I think I would recommend the hybrid to people who are buying the Jogger to own. The smaller standard engine has proven itself in many a test to be incredibly capable even with an overladen car (past the official weight limit), however being a small turbo 3-cylinder dragging a larger car around there are concerns about long term reliability in comparison to an older fashion NA 4-cylinder. However, if you are looking for an affordable lease/pcp and you won't be owning the car for more than, say, 4 years then it's not as much a concern.
All comes down to the driver though😀 If you treat the 1l with respect and don’t rag it everywhere, it should last as long as any other engine with decent maintenance 😀
Don't forget the Jogger TCe only weighs 1200 kg so no more than a Golf 1.0 TSI
It does make me chuckle when people suggest that small 3 cylinder turbo engines don't have proven reliability. 3 cylinders have been around for 80 years and turbos in the mainstream since the 1980's. There are good and bad designs of any engineer type, but if properly maintained there's no reason to suggest these smaller engines are generally any less reliable
Please add liter/100km or km/l fuel consumption ratings for the non- *coughs* ... 'special' unit users in your reviews, if only in text
Amen
6:38 this is 4.16 l/100 km
6:56 this is 5.23 l/100 km
7:07 4.83 l/100 km (so actually is more efficient than hybrid in real-world)
Imagine tha sales of this if it had the 1.5 dci diesel.
The 1.5 dci is troubled since they put SCR on it, so it is not the most reliable option
Diesels are on the way out because of their particulate emissions. You will see fewer diesel options in future.
@@timhancock6626 Agreed but there is still a need for Deisel cars for a few years yet , especially for rural communities where the charging infrastucure ispoor/ non existant . If the jogger had been around 2/3 years ago with a deisel engine option , Dacia would have had a major hit on its hands
Agreed, a Euro 6 diesel engine in the jogger would be a winner, it would also comply currently with all ULEZ zones outside of London. As for its use in rural communities, the diesel would be a no brainier for many people….
The main reason we are seeing fewer people buy diesels is because most manufacturers no longer make them. I’m not convinced by the argument that sales are low because people don’t want them. It’s really quite simple…if they aren’t being made, then you can’t buy one.
Dacia alongside MG really giving value to their customers.
Chinese cars I think the MG for sure is
lol stupid
Was in a fully electric MG yesterday. Really nice car and no complaints from me
Dacia is Romanian but owned by Renault hence the same dashboard and hybrid setup
Go figure, since they are built by workers that earn far less then you!
Screams for that 1.5 diesel, doesn't it? :) But the times are different.
I think you’re missing the point. If you load the car with seven people, as it is designed to accommodate. You will definitely need the extra power the hybrid provides. If you don’t need the seven seats, there are much better options on the market. But this car is still brilliant value for money.
Not needed so far, how fat are these seven people you have in mind?
7 seater automatic for £22k is bloody impressive
I am testdriving today and this has been very helpful, I don't often have 7 in the car but 5 people all the time, I hope the tce is enough
I think for a lot of people the Auto aspect will be as important as the battery so that extra £3k when split over the two aspects of upgrade are not that bad.
All hybrids are auto no matter who makes them.
Quite, not many want manual once they've had decent auto transmission.
@@stevenmoran4060 not true, some mild hybrids are manuals like the Ford Puma, Fiat 500, etc. but they market them as hybrids
How does the automatic gearbox integrate with the electric motor/generators?
KIA/Hyundai have a 6 speed auto box in their hybrids.
Dacia had done a good job with their jogger. However, I think they shouldve added a diesel engine for a car that people might be using to carry loads of heavy weight and people. Also, I think they probably should've made this an estate car, with the same 1.5 turbo diesel you got in the Duster SUV, and made it more smaller and lower to the ground. That probably wouldve been a whole lot better, because not everyone needs a 7 seater.
If you need a smaller one just take the Sandero as it's exactly the same car without the rear extension. And regarding the diesel, it's more and more baned in a lots of city so no need to go this way
I think that the review of the car is not 100% fair! I saw other reviews, where the car can be driven in electric if you have 80-90 km/h and you maintain the speed and the battery is charged! Also, the consumtion on city was 5/100km
I think for the extra power it’s worth it. Although, it’s disappointing that the standard TCe model, isn’t more powerful considering the size of the car and potential passenger/luggage weight.
Nice design, very practical car
In addition the green rating will allow city driving as a hybrid whereas the petrol will be restricted for large town/city driving
Nearest thing to a proper estate car. Dacia won't have problems selling these.
As opposed to all the Estate cars on sale? Subaru Outback, Skoda Octavia, Skoda Superb, various Volvos, various Peugeots, Ford Focus, Vauxhall Astra etc etc etc etc……
@@MarthaMansbridge Right, because a Subaru Outback or Volvo is the same price as a Dacia
Looks good value for the money.
I was thinking about Jogger for a few months, but since I had and option to test Jogger a few days ago, I returned to the mind of buying Duster when the time will be proper.
The extra money buys you an automatic transmission, so for that alone, many Mums on the school run will prefer it, as would I who used to drive commercial vehicles without synchromesh.
The point is not in the fuel, it never was. It is in the power. They don't have diesels anymore, and people want more power.
If there was any thoughts about fuel and economy, GB would use LPG like everyone else in europe :)
4:22 Looks like he put the gearbox in B for breaking. This might account for the high fuel consumption.
Driving these efficiently is really a long term thing. Each car is different, even individuals of the same model. I have a Duster with the same 1L turbo petrol like in the Jogger and only after a year of driving it, I can easily get 55mpg out of it when it was rated for 47mpg I think. It’s all technique and getting used to the car.
Could any one advice me how the power train works in this hybrid. Is it same as Toyota hybrid thru power split device.(like planetary gear centre sun gear is MG1 act as generator and starter and planetary gear is connected to engine and ring gear is connected to MG2 as well as wheels. By manipulating MG1 rpm infinite gear ratio is optained and engine runs at optimum speed with high efficiency at slow speeds.
Sandero stepway series- hybrid with solar roof would be great in town.
If they just made it as an SUV, they could've priced it 10k higher and the sales would explode.
That called the Bigster, will be unveiled in a year or so
@@mihnealazar7039 i highly doubt it'll be a 7 seater, its quite short.
@@x3merx3merit will be a 7 seater
Budget XC90 at the rear 😂
When I first saw the jogger I just couldn't help that it'd be a really interesting option as a hybrid, but mostly as an electric car. A small EV that still can seat 7?? Make it basic, that's ok, just make sure it's cheap.
I just wish that they'd add more battery capacity if they went for the trouble of adding the hybrid system with (for some reason) both the electric motor near the engine, and the independent one. I think that the fuel economy would be even better. And the ultimate variant could have been an PHEV, as that could be much cheaper to run in the long term. To me, it makes sense to have something as practical and cost-saving as PHEV system on a car that is pratical and cost-saving
Really makes me wonder how much more it would've cost to make it a PHEV. I am at the moment pretty happy without a car, but the Dacia Jogger looked as the perfect car to buy down the line, not realizing that 'full hybrid' meant it wasn't "really" a hybrid (I naively thought all hybrid could do at least a tiny amount of slower driving purely off of the electric motor, with a battery charged at home). Bit dissapointed now 😅
I only recently realised that the Jogger is exactly the same as the Sandero Stepway up to the rear doors. Same width just with a higher, longer roofline.
Perfect for city taxis and for those of us forced to drive in cities 90% of our mileage
If the PM isn't lying about the ICE ban, Dacia will still be able to sell new ones of these in the UK in 10 years.
Have we ever had in PM in either colour not lie?
Why did you say only about apple car play? There is no android auto?
Amazing car! All it needs is the same diesel engine that’s in the Duster, and then it would be perfect for carrying full loads and much better fuel economy….
So basically the hybrid is addressed to people using it mainly in city traffic or short commutes, I'm pretty sure it would yield far better fuel economy in these circumstances than the normal petrol version.
The hybrid version is a good option in London where you have to pay the council to park outside your home as it will be cheaper than the petrol version
1.6 engines by Renault are pretty reliable and that it is its main advantage over 1.0.
This one is from Nissan, but it's more or less the same group 😅
That 4spd gearbox is CVT or torque converter or double-clutch?
it's a ZF-8 ;)
Considering the price, there's no way it's not a CVT, buddy!
Isn't ZF-8 an 8speed trans? The Dacia is only 4speed
This will tick a lot of boxes for people well done Dacia
If only it was a plug in hybrid or total EV, many would buy for cabing
You would lose a great deal of cabin space since this new platform houses the battery at the back instead of underneath the car
my god only if we have it here in Australia
I have owned the jogger for nearly a year now. I always wanted an auto but obviously they didnt exist then. For me and i imagine a lot of others, i have no care for it being a hybrid i just wanted an auto.
I will keep my manual as it has well and truly been wheathered by the children. Plus I got a good interest rate on it which cant be matched in current economy. I think maybe after 2 or 4 years i may consider getting an auto version then.
I've got the Toyota RAV4 2.5ltr Hybrid 230bh and am averaging 47mpg, give it a few more years and the Dacia will be the same price as many cars
A friend has the Sportage hybrid with 229bhp and he averages 44mpg. Pretty good for the size of the car.
I'd like this as a plug in with 40 miles of range.
The automatic gearbox alone absolutely worths the extra money, the clutch is absolutely awful...
My biggest concern about non-plugin hybrids is when you go to do an overtake thinking you have 140hp, but your battery is depleted so you only get 90-odd hp. I'd prefer to know for sure how the car is going to perform.
It doesn't work like that . My battery is never depleted and the petrol engine in turn will work the electric motor. It surprisingly has some poke in it when overtaking
Might not happen very often to you, but a quick Google suggests it very much is a thing
@@lozetchells9164
I drive the car and ini many a Facebook group with owners and this has never come up.
Maybe we are all lucky 🤔
@@lozetchells9164 a quick Google suggests anything you want it to suggest, including people complaining about loss of power overtaking with any engines (because those same people have no idea about overtaking in naturally aspirated engines, for example, or even about revving a diesel above 2,000 rpm for proper power).
Hybrids have zero problems overtaking, as do any other engines, as long as you keep it safe and know what you're doing.
Revving it within the optimal power curve (depends on your engine, so look that up) will do the trick ALL the time.
The electronic of the motor will prevent the battery to go lower than half of the capacity to avoid this situation. It's an update done by Renault last year on the clio.
As it's the same platform we take advantage of this
The last time I saw a car with 7 people in it was when I was a teenager and I was one of them.
Drove one recently a rental. Its unbelievably slow, even if you drive it like a rental car flat out, by the time you get it up to 60 you have given up.
Current market needs more VALUE cars like this one... Great job Renault group
Worth mentioning that this hybrid system WILL get you freewheeling after going down a long hill. I’m in Belgium, which isn’t known for its relief, and it’s still annoying when coming down from the ardennes. This is all from a Clio V hybrid. Same car with a TCe 130 had the same MPG figures, was more enjoyable to drive (less whine from the powerplant), felt much snappier, and didn’t freewheel after two minutes of hill descent!!! Getting this hybrid system is such a regret: only get it if it’s a PHEV (like the Arkana).
The point is only hybrid version with automatic gearbox
with such price it must have 5kW battery - that would be perfect!
Is it Renault triber twin
It seems like a logical next car after our Grand Scenic diesel.
The middle seats rolled forward isn't anywhere near as practical as a van and no good for those of us who really need a flat floor for, for eg, transporting dogs or even occasionally sleeping in. Just a shame there aren't enough affordable, reliable petrol vans around, which is why I'm looking at cars like this. Flat, fold down into the floor rear seats and I might have been won over.
dačia - das auto
Why can't they put the 1. 6 petrol engine in the normal one s a put a turbo on it 😅😅
Dacia was always a great car
Almost bought one of these, but the Toyota yaris cross just pipped it.
Those cars are totally different, the jogger has way more storage
Tiny car that Yaris.. Definitely buy the Dacia if you want the comfort of space and need a great luggage capacity.
The Toyota is nice but too small.. Will last longer than the Dacia and is more stylish.
Love the space and extra seats. The fuel economy isn't very good though. Shame.
Visited dealer yesterday. Delivery date if ordered now and then......February 2024 soonest!
Better performance? I'm sure while that battery has power it is but what happens when its flat? 1.2kWh isn't exactly large so its not going to put out much power for long (presuming all the battery is usable and happens to start full I make that around 35 seconds - as we know thats unlikely to be the case so its more to get a 0-60 than anything else) and then you're left with a n/a 1.6 with a wheezy 93hp pulling a heavier car through a 4 speed slushbox.
Mid 40's mpg when its only got one or two people in it aswell? How does that go when its asked to carry seven - most of the reason for buying it over other similarly priced cars?
This thing is screaming for the 1.5dci and has been since launch.
Wow that real world economy is terrible? I've got the 1Ltr Jogger and I can do 46 MPG in the real world.
I own one, real world economy is mor like 60 for most. We been discussing this video in a Jogger group on FB. As the figures he quoting is not normal
But 1.0 TCE with LPG run more cheap. Regards from Romania !
But LPG is £1 per litre now. Short while back it was £0.75p. Petrol is about £1.48 a litre. Not such a huge saving with LPG in the UK as it once was. Especially when you lose efficiency on LPG compared to petrol
How much more is a Toyota Prius?
I cannot understand why Skoda, for example, can put a 1,5l turbo with proper 150hp in the smaller models and still keep them cheap enough and Dacia is trying to jump through so many hoops to get a 'meh' result.
Yeah, tall guy here (2.02m). This car isn't for me. With the drivers seat in a sort of comfortable position nobody can sit behind me. Besides that, it's not very comfortable for a tall guy to start with so I've tried it and scratched this one of the list.
1.97m here. What did you end up getting?
@@norbiu ended up getting a Ford Kuga, especially because it also has a lot of legroom in the backseat
My old jogger does 50 to the gallon and cost 5k less
Nice Volvo tail lights 😅
One of these days we'll get a review where you can actually see what the car looks like - instead of only seeing it as is if your face is only 6 inches away from the bumper, or only 6 inches off the ground.
Biggest issue I can see is it is really sluggish.. Otherwise a decent basic car for hard up/poor buyers needing plenty space..
mpg... bhp... you have viwers outside of the UK, zou know......
I've just ordered a Toyota Yaris cross, Self charging Hybrid 22 thousand,!!!???
How is that a big car? It’s about the same size as a rev4. This makes the old preus look sporty
I bought a new Jogger Extreme 1.0tce in 2022 and it's been nothing but problems. The engine is far too stressed for that type of vehicle.
Although I can see the appeal of cheap motoring, there's cheap and cheerful and then there's cheap because it's cheap.
Dacia's are good cars. My Jogger was hugely practical, but regular dealer visits, blown up flywheels and months waiting for parts is not fun. I bought new to avoid that type of thing.
I swapped to a 1 year old, AWD, mild hybrid Suzuki Vitara SZ5 for £18500 and it's been excellent. The Suzuki IS cheap and cheerful and it actually feels like it's designed to last.
How much is a Suzuki Vitara in Uk?
Should launch in 🇮🇳
Too complicated. Too many motors. Budget car with possibly huge maintenance down the road. Same goes for all of em.
It looks like something from 2007.
The advantage is being more ecological.. can’t believe that people in 2023 don’t take one of the biggest points in consideration
Just got back from Holiday in the USA and made me realise how dumb the UK is for not buying MPVs rather than SUVs. The Jogger is more MPV than Estate, which is a very good thing IMO.
Probably the last MPV on sale in the UK? Unless you count the very ugly van based ones.
Well done Dacia for marketing something different at a very reasonable price
6:38 this is 4.16 l/100 km in non-alien units.
6:56 this is 5.23 l/100 km
7:07 4.83 l/100 km
....WHY A 4 SPEED??
Otherwise perfect car.
Seems you did not read the spec of the hybrid system 😅
The two lower gear are handled fully with the electric motor (up to 50km/h or more)
Then the ice is use to move the car above those speed in conjonction with the electric motor. So no need to have the two lower gear on the ice and the available 4 gears are like on a 6 gears box
@@hman72y it's not a big enough battery to handle all driving up to 50kph all the time. No no should have less than 6 gears, especially automatics. Could easily have first as electric mode and still 6 others. Makes motorway cruising efficient.
@@lavrentievv not all the time, I agree but when the battery is low the ice engine will be started and used as a power generator.
Having more speed is still an issue when you want to keep the motor compact as the electric motor is in-line with the gear box. If the motor was not transversale it will be possible but then the front will be longer 🤔 it a game of compromise
Toyota have been doing Hybrids for over 25yrs and were scoffed at. I'll stick to my Corolla Touring...
Need this one with a diesel. 1.5 would be awesome. A 2 litres would be perfect and outsell everything else
That is exactly what is not going to happen :)
I heard stories of Renault/Dacia hybrid batteries overheating on the highway here in Slovakia and the car then completely stops. It can only be fixed by towing to the dealership (or mechanic that has the equipment) where the code must be reset. I would stick to normal petrol version which are known to be reliable.
Strange because their battery are water cooled 🤔
I don't see how 7 people can put their stuff in that boot.