Im not going to spend upwards of $40,000 on a car, if the moment I get it I have to replace the stick and the clutch because its substandard...that makes no sense.
You're totally right and yet I love my v8 manual mustang enough to just replace these parts. Kind of like my 3v mustangs needed complete suspension overhaul to handle much better
I bought a 2018 6 speed manual transmission 5.0 mustang brand new in 2018. Have had NO problems with it. Previous to that I had a 2013 5.0 with manual transmission. The 2013 clutch and shifter sucked. The 2018 is a lot better. During the breaking in period I made sure to shift through the gears quickly but smoothly, never slamming the shifter into gears. With 39000 miles on the odometer I have 0 complaints with the 2018 mustang. It’s always a real pleasure to drive that thing.
My 00GT’s Tremec T45 is freshly rebuilt and the shifter is a direct mount hurst. Even directly mounted and with a clutch cable it demands a good firm pull when the revs are high. Big engines mean big transmissions. Part of owning a manual v8 means you gotta put effort into it and also learn where your gates are. If you’re grinding you have another issue entirely, but shift effort is all part of the game. A short shifter could increase the effort as they raise the fulcrum point of the lever. Make sure the clutch is bled correctly.
It's a horrible transmission but I deal with it. I agree with you about it being hard to shift it fast and smoothly at the same time. I'll normally short shift it from 1st to 2nd and then do a hard pull from 2nd to 3rd and hold my breath as I go up into 3rd lol.
Same here.. going into 2nd slowly is sketchy. I either have to short shift fast or prepare for the jerk. Going into third no problem, but down to 4th it fights me it high RPM’s.
In my 2019 Bullitt, I don’t have issues from first to second at high RPMs, I do however have experienced second to third lockout when shifting between 7K and redline. Not all the time but on rare occasions. So like you my fingers are crossed and hoping I don’t experience the embarrassment lol.
@@HitsTownUSAIn my Bullity 19 same has you, I used to do some drag races, until those blocking changes to 3rd over 7000rpm broken my fork selector, need to change the full transmition, i want to change the MT82 transmition for the Tremec of the Mach 1. Can it been done?
I had a 2011 mustang gt (totalled by 18 wheeler) with the 1st gen mt82. Stock shifting was not great. I put a trans mount from steeda for $20 and fixed most of the shifting issues. My 5.0 also had the tick with 140k miles with no issues. I drove the hell out of it.
I have a 2011 with an MT82. It was horrible when I first got it. The flywheel bolts backed out and the clutch was replaced on warranty. Now it is so good it's amazing. It is as smooth as the engine now and is a pure joy to drive. I lucked out.
@@thegeneral8133 Nope the stock clutch is a twin disc and is just fine. I think the shifter was around $400 plus whatever it cost to have it installed. I forget how much that was. It took them a few hours.
@@ericd1632 Thank you friend. I'm thinking about purchasing a 2019 GT PP2 I saw today before its sold but im scared to death of having issues with the transmission..Do you have any problems at all?
@@thegeneral8133 No problem. I haven't had any issues so far. The MGW shifter helps a lot. Takes all the play out of it. It's still kind of notchy when you shift with the stock tranny fluid, especially when it's cold, but I swapped out the stock fluid for BG Syncro shift 2 full synthetic fluid and it made a huge difference. Much better now.
I have mixed emotions about my MT82. I feel like my second gear is so grabby sometimes and when I dip the clutchcto shift sometimes the car jerks which is annoying. This video made me feel a lot better tho about my situation with mine, not so alone lol preciate the vid
I've been contemplating the GT pp2, which also has this transmission as standard, and that would cost me about $45,000 w/options...that's too much to contemplate spending more money to replace the stock transmission with a tremic, like I said, doesn't make sense.
1:05 Engine ticking noise that is loud enough to raise eyebrows is not normal operating noises. I had the same issue with mine, and had same reactions where ever I went from people who heard it. resulted outcome was new motor as that "Ticking", in my case, was bottom end damage from lower oil pump not producing enough oil pressure down low to properly lubricate. After replacement, tick was gone.
It took me several months to get used to this trans in my 2018 GT after driving my manual 350z for several years. But now no problems. I think it's fine. Also, I've never been locked out of a gear.
BuckshotIV that’s when for example you’re going from 1st to 2nd and it won’t let you shift to second so you have to wait a bit and then put it into gear
I feel you boss. I learned how to drive stick on my ‘19 Coyote and boy it’s notchy. 2nd gear fights me sometimes but I never had any issues. I hope it stays that way lol
2016 GT Gen 2 manual W/ 13,000 miles only & love the transmission feel! I only run Shell 93 & Run Mobil 1 full synthetic W/ Mobil 1 ! oil filter / Borla ATACK cat-back & JBL oil catch can! W/ STEEDA / Green Filter Mustang High-Performance Air filter
I just purchased a used 2021 GT 6sp, and I haven’t owned a manual since my 2005 GTO I sold 15yrs ago. I think this car shifts great and I love driving it plus I haven’t even snubbed it once yet or missed any gears lol. Just like riding a good bike 😊
It's hard to shift fast smoothly mostly because the bite point is very high up in the pedal travel, and then also, the spring assist makes the bit point pop back so it is very difficult to time the clutch release with the gear change since the clutch pedal is variable resistance.
its a shame that Ford had to put the garbage MT82 trans in the standard GT's. Shouldve used the stronger Tremec that they put in the Mach1 and 350. From what i've heard online, the mt82 is ok to use for daily driving but not for street racing or super fast shifts.
As an old timer and remember the debate between the BW T-10 and Ford top loader trans. It wasn't that one trans was better than the other, but a Hurst shifter was mandatory if you drove it hard. I don't have any experience with the MT82 or Tremec but I'm guessing a quality shifter will solve a lot of the problems with the MT82
I have a 21 GT and installed an MGW race spec shifter at 173 miles. The shifts are more like a toggle switch or light switch. Absolute precision. Feels almost like its gated. At 250 miles I replaced the factory fill DCT Automatic transmission fluid with BG Syncro Shift ll. This car shifts so well I sometimes just sit in it and run through the gears. The MGW Race Spec shifter actually bolts to the transmission so it feels just like a top loader. It's obvious when you get your hands on the MGW that is is rock solid and built better than a tank. The machine work and precision feel of this shifter is absolutely mind blowing. I was so stressed about getting one of these cars with the MT82, but went out on a limb and did it because of the reviews I read about people who installed these shifters and the difference that it made....That shifter along with the BG Syncro Shift ll fluid make this car feel incredible. ......the next and final steps in perfecting the MT-82 will be to replace the clutch to master cylinder line with a Wilwood 1/4'' (inside diameter) brake hose that is long enough to fully seat and not ever have the opportunity to suck air into the system like the factory plastic hose that is too short from the factory and looks like it is about to fall off...literally barely connected on brand new cars to the master cylinder. Then last on my list will be a Mcleod stainless steel braided hydraulic clutch line. This will replace the factory plastic line and will not allow for any expansion in the line. These cars are incredible, and one of the joys to owning one is doing the research and going down all the right rabbit holes in order to arrive at perfection. Do not let anyone on the internet sway you from getting one of best cars to be had and possibly the last of their kind.
I had to replace my clutch within 1 month of owning my 18 mustang GT.. I was so disappointed and the repairman said it was too tight. I bought the car new. Thankfully I didn't have to pay for it either since it was still under warranty. I hope I don't experience that embarrassing moment ever again and pay for bs
@@aronicerda520 braided clutch line to your master cylinder. The stock one cheap rubber and swells under hard driving cause a weak clutch feeling. Braided line fixes it.
For me 1 to 2nd gear is the worst in this car lol. I think I'll get used to it, I also get less lockouts when I make sure I'm in sport or track mode. In normal mode silly things happen more often but still love the car none the less. Going to keep the shifter and get a supercharger to get at least 650hp and if something goes wrong just replace the whole transmission.
We had similar shifter problems on the 60s and 70s cars equipped with four speeds. Four speeds were all you could get back in those days. The factory shifters were sub standard. Thank God for George Hurst. Bolt in a new Hurst Competition Plus shifter and you were golden.
I've had mine for about a month now. I have a 2011 GT with the MT82. It seems like 2-3 is the biggest issue for most owners from what I've read. Strangely I never have any trouble with 2-3. My problem area is 1-2. 2nd gear fights me almost every time. I also echo the problem you mentioned with launching smoothly from a stop. I'm really having a hard time getting it down. I also experience lurching and sometimes even shuddering. I don't know what to do, I've tried double clutching, giving it more throttle, less throttle, etc. I know the car is 12 years old at the time of this comment, but I don't think that's it. It only has 29k miles, and it's in really great shape. I feel like this car just requires it's own technique to drive smoothly, but it's hard to unlock.
I have a 2021 mustang gT and the MT82 has not been great. Shifts are jerky and I get locked out of third gear often when in high rpm’s. I’m having the tremec magnum installed because it will be so worth it
I put some 20 dollar energy suspension bushing in the shifter that's mounted to the body and it helped a lot I like the stock shifter I haven't been locked out yet
just picked up a 2018 6 speed, the car is gorgeous it drives good but it does have a clutch and shifter issue. I t looks like the previous owner installed some aftermarket mods including the shifter which is terrible I have a really had time getting the gears in, the clutch also is harder then normal, I will replace asap because I have to drive this car, if anyone here has a eom shifter and a new gem clutch please reply.
I installed a Barton hybrid 3 and I trans mounted it. Works great. The trans itself can handle 700RWHP so it's not bad. Once you see how crappy the OEM quality and what a quality the the BH3 or MGW shifters are, you'll be blown away. BtW I went with BH3 because I like the 2019 Reverse lockout.
I’m planing on ordering a GT in the next couple of months. And looking forward to changing the shifter & maybe the clutch (I’ve heard it solves the tranny issue(s)). However, I wasn’t aware you could have the tranny mounted. How much does that cost? And does that revoke Ford warranty?
@@yourmomfatachacks7976 trans mounting is easy to do with the included hardware, I highly recommend it because that solves 90% of your shifting issues. A new clutch isn't necessary at all unless you're going to install a blower or turbos, and even then the clutch is like 4th on the list of things to change.
I just recently bought a 2016 manual ecoboost. The car itself is great! always loved the mustang look and feel however the more I drove it, I realized that maybe something was wrong with the transmission. The shifter always fights me especially on 1st to 2nd. I learned how to drive manual on a 2011 BMW 335i that is an absolute dream to drive and as well as a 2008 Cayman. Love both of those cars. Since then I've driven a fare share of manual cars, all with different transmission. I got to say, that I like a heavier feel to the clutch and shifter. That why I liked the mustang so much. Didn't realize that after a month of driving that I would realize how much of a struggle it is to drive smoothly. I've learned how to tame it a bit and work around the lurching, but prolly at the expense of my clutch plate. Always thought that the previous owner was really hard on the car and maybe just needed some replacement parts. Didn't know that the whole trany was a pile of shit when it was stock too. I still love that car and use it as my daily driver, I just don't want to get locked out of a gear when I want to have a little fun. It hasn't happened that much.. maybe three times. Its just something I'm not used to in a car. Makes me feel a little better that others have the same problem, but at the same time, I little disappointed that the factory transmissions are doomed to have problems and require more money spent for a fix that shouldn't occur until later in the engines life. Id rather not spend $2000+ on replacement parts but driving experience is everything for me. That's why I have a manual. Just want to be able to enjoy the driving experience without worrying about lockouts and premature transmission wear.
its a shame that Ford had to put the garbage MT82 trans in the standard GT's and ecoboosts. Shouldve used the stronger Tremec that they put in the Mach1 and 350. From what i've heard online, the mt82 is ok to use for daily driving but not for street racing or super fast shifts.
I have a 2019 Gt with MT82 and I have no problems what so ever. I've have the car for 8 month, it has 2000 miles on it and so far, its running like a champ
Lol bro it's like my baby, it's never been in the rain either lol. Where you been, I've been missing you videos, I wondered what happened to you. Got content bro, keep up the hard work, thats
I have a 2019 GT with the MT-82, 19K miles on it. It has locked me out of 2nd gear twice and from 3rd countless times (I stopped counting after 10.) The transmission jerks my car every single time I put it in 1st. It randomly clunks and thumps when shifting to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. The feel in each gear is inconsistent, except for the overdrives. My plan was to keep this car indefinitely. Now? I'm definitely getting rid of it before the warranty expires. I'm not paying for a new transmission if it decides to blow up after the 60K miles. It's sad.
update Aluminator 5.0L engine n/a 12:1 compression turn your trac control off per McLeod rst (only last 10k-overeworks the slave cylinder) and Engine Masters calimer mt-82d stage 2 cyro treated mirco polish gears carbon synchro rings and billet forks Mantic 9000- better than McLeon rst- boobma transmission mount MGW spec 2 short shifter MMR pulse ring BMR drive shaft guard dss drive line g force half shafts FHP differential Steeda differential brace
FYI: Getrag makes the MT82 in your car. It’s a German company and makes manuals for Porsche(GT4) and BMW. People have said this transmission is made by a Chinese company and they make lousy transmissions. That’s wrong. The best cars from Europe use their transmissions, I just thought I’d mention this. My 2019 Bullitt has the same transmission as your car and it works fine. As noted in the comments, the Tremec3160 in the GT350 isn’t perfect either, and has a tendency to rattle and it’s notchy. I was surprised to learn the same company that makes the manuals for Porsche and BMW makes the transmissions for Ford Mustangs. Ford will continue to use this transmission and improve it as it also uses the Tremec in selected cars. The Mach1 and GT 500 uses transmissions from Tremec, while the other Mustangs use Getrag.
There's nothing wrong with the MT-82..... take your time and Push the Clutch TOO THE FLOOR..... don't shift at 5-7k ALL THE TIME, dont "Dog" on her or do Burnouts ..... the 5.0s are not Race Cars from the factory..... upgrade the clutch, trans and Differential(Unless you like the 3.73, just change the fluid after runs) if your gonna RACE AND TRACK..... other than that.... take it easy BTW I have a 2016 S550 5.0.... My MT-82 hasn't giving me any problems.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ just sayin
I bought my 2020 gt pp1 in November with 3,000 miles on it. When I put it away for winter storage it had 3,500 miles. First mod was the steeda clutch spring. That really helped the feel of the clutch. I've been driving manuals for 30 years and I actually stalled my car twice with the stock spring (it sucks that bad) I'm thinking about trying the steeda shifter bracket and if that doesn't help the shifts I'll go mgw.
Looks like you're shifting a bit rough when you did that pull. Can you try shifting a bit slower? maybe it just needs a less forceful shift to not get locked out? Maybe the shifter doesn't like to be rushed?
@@lamontmiller1761 I am having problems with Ford ..so far I have received $5000 toward a new motor basically they split the cost of a new motor. I have a 2014 Mustang GT 436 Coyote. I have already paid for a new Shifter. The original was a Ford Racing Shifter. Cost me $1200 installed. Now at 65000 miles the 5th cylinder ceased. Anyway I do not want a Getrag And an wondering what will be my best bet for a transmission..
@@theharmonicaking3283 tremec t56 I was told, it's about $3500 I think from summit racing, a few years ago I saw a complete conversion kit including transmission for that price. I used the money I got from Ford to payoff my mustang to get out of the car note. Then I found out about the tremec conversion kit. My mustang starting giving me transmission issues at 7000 miles.
@@lamontmiller1761 Hey Thanks for the information. I am trying to get Ford to replace the getrag transmission with a more functional trans.because everyone knows about the lockout at third. That little getrag cannot handle the torque.
I don’t want to jinx it, but mine has been solid so far (3000 miles). I have not taken it to a track, but I have done some hard acceleration. I’ll upgrade if I ever have an issue, but for now “if it ain’t broke...” It is less precise than Audi or Honda manuals I have driven, but no surprise there.
If the stock clutch is causing lockouts then it's not disengaging completely. If i get a 2024, i'll just get a dark horse to avoid any potential problems.
My 2018 is so far so good, no lockouts or issues with it. I like to think I'm a better than average manual driver, so maybe that's one reason but who knows. I do want a short shifter though, shifts could be a bit shorter.
What does it mean to be locked out when shifting? Is that just when it won’t allow you into a gear? I’ve driven manuals a lot but just at work I’ve never daily driven a manual
@@Buckshot96 Yeah you can't shift into the gear you want. Sometimes if a clutch is going out it'll stop "engaging", rpm will go up but speed won't. Or grinding where it makes grind noises but you can still finesse your way into gear. Lockout is not being to get into that gear. Some GM cars have certain low gears lockout to save gas.
I agree with you. The only difference is I am going with the Barton hybrid 3 body mount (like to keep the reverse same as stock). i am biased to Mantics. Make sure you do everything at one go. Save yourself the time and hastle.
Same here. My 19 gt is fine. Learn to slip that clutch and get your footwork right then hold on. That fully engaged clutch junk at 1500rpm is not the way to go fast.
I have mastered the 6 speed,, 45 years ago and I love my stang,, powering up soon, praxton pro charger, x pipe fuel rails and shooting for 700 hp 😉💨💨💨💨 65 year young here
Yes it is that bad...Ford did it's loyal customers dirty by trying to cut cost by using a cheaper design, with cheaper material, designed in China resulting in the MT82.. They should have gone with the Tremac in every model. American customers made Ford Mustang the 1 selling sports car in the world several years in a row. You were awarded the revised MT82 transmission in 2018 as a form of gratitude...
On my 2019 gt my dual mass flywheel started shaking the car around 4000miles, ford replaced entire clutch and flywheel assembly under warranty. 2nd gear shift is extremely notchy and 3rd is a crapshoot over 7000rpm. I also recently watched a friend blow up the clutch in his bone stock 2019 gt doing a 4000rpm launch using the launch control feature. I have installed a shifter bushing and trans mount insert to provide some improvement in the feel and performance of the shifter.
@@the__black__box Before added the trans mount bushing it was extremely difficult to shift into second gear during a high power pull like a 0 to 60 due to the tail end of the trans being out of alignment with the shifter. Adding the mount insert made my high power 1-2 shifts much better and reduced 3rd gear nibble in normal driving, the notchyness is still there though but that is caused by the trans fluid and the synchros. The shifter bushing mostly helps with making the shifter feel more firm instead of a wet noodle, with the stock bushing put the shifter into gear and note how much you can move the shifter side to side even though it is in gear, it doesn't feel right and it cant be good for shift accuracy.
How many manual trans cars have you owned? I know the shift forks in the 18-19s aren't as good as the 15-17, however I don't think the Mt82 deserves a lot of the hate that it gets and isn't a "poopy" transmission, especially in a close to stock application. It may not be the best, but I don't think it's bad. I think most of the issues people have with it comes from the shifter. Change that and go to a braided ss clutch line and I think you'll like the trans much better.
At close to 30K I’m going to do change the fluid for the MT82 I have noticed some weird shift when shifting really quick, like it’ll feel like it slipped straight into the right space, but usually I’ll get more lockout when I first start the car and it’s not fully warm, when it’s all in the green it’s usually pretty smooth, I hold out my 1st till 2,300 rpm and my second to 2K rpm and 3rd I hold it at 1,500 rpm and I don’t shift into 4th I drop it in neutral to let it warm up come to a complete stop or slow down enough to put it in second and usually my MT82 is warm, when I first got the car and was driving it delicately I did notice that the shift felt almost like a Porsche, now it’s like an old school mustang but I’m sure it needs new fluid, I smelled my clutch the other day on a hot day and if you need trans fluid it’ll work your clutch harder, if you drive the car hard and a lot it’s best to change the diff fluid early it’s not like those old mustangs
yeap! don't try to redline or floor it, when its cold. The 2>3 shift feels so notchy and rigid in cold weather, I've mis-shifted several times in my old 2016 ecoboost mustang.
i own a 2019 gt w m82. I am tried about all the hate w this trans. I replace the oil 1500k. w amsiol full synthetic. the trans will lock me out if I get too aggressive. So scotty Kilmer claims that 1 off his customers went throuh 3 are BS. I have a Booba trans mount, DSS aluminum soil driveshaft, Seeda diff brace, BMR stop the wheel hop and every Steeda or BMR motor mounts, bushing / cross member brace that u can buy along w vertical links, rear control arm and toe links. plus a MGW short though shifter-Roush level 1 tune and cold induction. I am sitting on Pedder's Xtreme coil overs w external canisters and Steeda lateral links and front control arms w Delrin bushings + 3k off after market Ford Performance, Steeda and BMR parts for this summer's suspension mod's. thanks too Zander 13 and the other Mustang Xtreme U tube Guru's. Like anything else u have to treat it like a lady-that's why they call them "she".
You must be an expert or a well read bullshiter..Anyway With that much knowledge, maybe you would offer myself a line or two... Here is the thing, you know the thing..Anyway I have a 2014 Mustang GT 436 Coyote with all Ford Racing inclusions and a mild claim of 436 horse and 450 torque. At 65000 miles the proverbial shit hit the fan and I throw a rod and ceased number five cylinder with a 7% leakage on the down and 100 PSI while other pistons were at 150 to 160 PSI I could hear her hissing from the crankcase. One month prior to this event the Ford Racing shifter failed...Cost $1200 for replacement, also with new tires an oil change, new rear shocks, and wheel alignment for a grand total of $3200. Ford has offered $5800 a split on the cost of a new motor. Now comes the question. How should I move forward with this critical problem? That being the getrag trany which I conclude is China junk.. Advice is welcome if you please...
Are you sure the ticking noise is not because the shift knob is not properly threaded? I had the noise and couldn't figure out where it was coming from until I tightened the shift knob
MY MT82 IS GARBAGE! lol it's crazy notchy. It's like I can feel the teeth bouncing off each other at low rpm and slow shifting. Shifting fast seems to almost be better.
In most normal driving the MT82 feels fine in my '19 GT. I have never been locked out. When the transmission gets hot on long drives the 2-3-4 shift sounds and feels weird, like clunky metal. I was driving my Mom around and she was like, what's that weird sound? Lolz. When I started driving the car I had trouble with lurching, I am use to it...except when I am tired. BG Products Syncro Shift II Synthetic Gear Oil supposedly makes the trans feel a lot better. I haven't done it yet, but its on my list of to do.
can someone tell me about the Clutch used in this 6 speed manual transmission Ford Mustang GT ? Is it having Dual Clutch( Somewhere I read) ? In Automatic Transmission actually Dual clutch is used.
crazy to see everyone is saying the same thing. i got a '22 manual gt and 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd are the worst feeling gears for me. always feel like im grinding gears and destroying my clutch but i cant tell. aint no way ford still puts this in theor cars instead of either fixing it or just making the tremec standard
Getting past 3k rpm on 1st makes it harder for me to put it into 2nd. Now 3rd feels a little messy too when it should be smooth as butter. Sometimes it feels messy even putting it into 1st in the driveway, really hate that. Mind you I'm still babying it because I've only got 810 miles on it, I can just imagine how it'll be once I really do start to push it. I keep reading and hearing that replacing the clutch line, getting transmission mounted shifter, new clutch, new clutch spring for the pedal, yada yada that's the solution. I have zero problems with the feel of the stick itself and the clutch pedal feels good to me, but I hate how I feel like a bad driver at lower speeds/gears because of it wanting to lurch. I have to be extra gentle and baby it, so I feel like I have no chance of doing actual pulls like this. Idk, I know I'll change it up eventually but really I'd just like to buy a tremec and get it over with
The shifter will help, I have MGW in my Z06 and it's harder to shift into gear at lower speeds are normal driving, but when your ready to do some pulls at wide open throttle it's shift's so easy and I've never missed a gear with it, once you start missing gears it becomes a mental thing knowing it can do it. That's the best 575 dollars I've spent on it, and I change clutch fluid every month are should I say empty the reservoir out and refill with Bosch #3 if you can find it.
still w Tremec u need the upgrades mgw, dds, boomba, steeda, bmr, etc.....i do not drag race- that's for folks w short attention spans..1/4 mile lmao! Street Outlaws are Kool but not for me- i'm just into cruising fast..hwy and backroads in MARIN & Sonma, CA County ROCK REDLINE laser / radar is a must! Suspension upgrades next July from Healdsburg collision Center-Pedders Xtreme, steeda laterial links and front control arm, BMR sway bars, plus 3k from Steeda & BMR
I installed mccloed dual clutch and it shifts so smooth omg other then some low rpm clutch chatter it don’t bother me I shift with one finger that’s how smooth the bite point is litterly on the edge but that’s how they are and amazing daily Drivee
Is your car tuned? My 401A 2020 has rev hang horribly I can’t even stomp on it and shift, my 2016 didn’t have that issue so far only thing I don’t like about it.
I have a 16 my first stang back in the day was a 85 GT the first thing to get is a MGW shifter and when you are at a stop go thru a couple of gear before you take off
Im in the same boat. The 2018+ are having so many problems that idk anymore if i want a mustang. The 10 speed has problems the 6mt has problems, and the cayote has a slightly rod knock at cold start? Idk lol.
I have a 18+ and its not that bad, I have never had a lockout, have rev'd it up to redline. I would get a aftermarket shifter, but I'm probably gonna sell mine because I'm trying to buy a house atm... but the car is awesome.
I’m on the fence between buying a brand new Mustang GT or getting a used GT 350. Both seem to have their ups and downs with the mustang GT specifically it’s the transmission but with the GT 350 it’s the engine seizing from oil leak issues. As someone that is new to mustangs it really makes this decision a lot harder than it Hass to be. I welcome any feedback
I’m in the same situation- although I’ve read that by replacing the stock clutch & shifter, it will solve the GT Manual issue(s). The pricing for a new clutch will run for $1k-1500. And shifter for $90-500. Would it be worth it? Idk 🤷♂️. But when I do, I’ll place my order (or not) & come back & update this tread.
For that price you’re better off getting a mach1 which has the tremec transmission. I’ve heard nothing but horror stories about the voodoo engine in the gt350 especially if you’re buying a used one.
i stopped the video when you said cloudy weather is cozy. I 100% AGREE. overcast weather is my favorite. The norm is to like sunny weather cuz you can be outside. its a social norm ive never acclimated to. Also you find rain snow and clouds dont stop ppl from doing activities you would think they wouldnt such as going to the beach when its raining a bit or still being out soicalizing regardless the weather conditions.
I have an 18 GT, and I have had absolutely no issues with my transmission. No lockouts, nothing whatsoever. It’s shifts smooth as silk. In fact, this MT is so much smoother than my 2012; that I see no need to change the shifter like I did in that car. ,
I test drove a manual eco today and after owning 6 different standard trans cars I have realized I will just be getting the auto I hate the feel of the clutch it’s very springy and the bite point is way to high if the clutch was smoother and more progressive it would have been fantastic the trans was very smooth under hard throttle but the clutch was a deal breaker for me
i have a 2018 mustang GT 2018 and i speed when i shifted from secod to third something happened ,,now doesnt work thirg and four . does anyone know what happened...the oter shifts still working 😵💫
Got an 18 pp1 in velocity blue, love the car but man the transmission is a big issue. Put an mgw on it and still have lockout. Had to have it rebuilt at 15k miles and theres still quirks with it. People say the clutch, shifter, and clutch line are a fix but i think the real fix is better designed synchros
My Mt82-17 has survived several trackdays, late night hooning and even the Nurburgring, the shifting has only gotten smoother since new.. Thinking of getting the Mach 1 though but need to get updated on the gear ratios before deciding.
TREMEC should be standard problem solved
I agree, buy American
new mach 1 will have Tremac
So should I not buy a manual for 2015-2017? I’m looking to get a 2017 6 speed
Igor go for it. 👍🏻
@@SirenS550 I love my 2019 Bullitt. I don't see a issue with it.
Im not going to spend upwards of $40,000 on a car, if the moment I get it I have to replace the stick and the clutch because its substandard...that makes no sense.
I agree
Exactly, wtf 😑
Facts bro
You're totally right and yet I love my v8 manual mustang enough to just replace these parts. Kind of like my 3v mustangs needed complete suspension overhaul to handle much better
I bought a 2018 6 speed manual transmission 5.0 mustang brand new in 2018. Have had NO problems with it. Previous to that I had a 2013 5.0 with manual transmission. The 2013 clutch and shifter sucked. The 2018 is a lot better. During the breaking in period I made sure to shift through the gears quickly but smoothly, never slamming the shifter into gears. With 39000 miles on the odometer I have 0 complaints with the 2018 mustang. It’s always a real pleasure to drive that thing.
I’m about to buy a 2016 used with the mt82, it felt very tight and smooth, i guess it was well taken care of so I’m hoping i run with the same luck.
@@Oscaru96 I hope you’ll have a lot of enjoyment from it.
Same here.
My 00GT’s Tremec T45 is freshly rebuilt and the shifter is a direct mount hurst. Even directly mounted and with a clutch cable it demands a good firm pull when the revs are high. Big engines mean big transmissions. Part of owning a manual v8 means you gotta put effort into it and also learn where your gates are. If you’re grinding you have another issue entirely, but shift effort is all part of the game. A short shifter could increase the effort as they raise the fulcrum point of the lever. Make sure the clutch is bled correctly.
I love my 17 MT82. I have taken her from 16k miles to 73k miles. No problem.
17 never had any issues, mainly 2018+
It's a horrible transmission but I deal with it. I agree with you about it being hard to shift it fast and smoothly at the same time. I'll normally short shift it from 1st to 2nd and then do a hard pull from 2nd to 3rd and hold my breath as I go up into 3rd lol.
same here :// HATE THAT
Same 🤣🤣🤣..
Same here.. going into 2nd slowly is sketchy. I either have to short shift fast or prepare for the jerk. Going into third no problem, but down to 4th it fights me it high RPM’s.
In my 2019 Bullitt, I don’t have issues from first to second at high RPMs, I do however have experienced second to third lockout when shifting between 7K and redline. Not all the time but on rare occasions. So like you my fingers are crossed and hoping I don’t experience the embarrassment lol.
@@HitsTownUSAIn my Bullity 19 same has you, I used to do some drag races, until those blocking changes to 3rd over 7000rpm broken my fork selector, need to change the full transmition, i want to change the MT82 transmition for the Tremec of the Mach 1. Can it been done?
I had a 2011 mustang gt (totalled by 18 wheeler) with the 1st gen mt82. Stock shifting was not great. I put a trans mount from steeda for $20 and fixed most of the shifting issues. My 5.0 also had the tick with 140k miles with no issues. I drove the hell out of it.
Can you post a link please... ?
I have a 2011 with an MT82. It was horrible when I first got it. The flywheel bolts backed out and the clutch was replaced on warranty. Now it is so good it's amazing. It is as smooth as the engine now and is a pure joy to drive. I lucked out.
I had an MGW shifter installed on my '19 PP1 GT and it's night and day difference. It was one of my first mods and I'm so glad I did.
You had to replace the clutch too right?? If you don't mind me asking how much for everything?
@@thegeneral8133 Nope the stock clutch is a twin disc and is just fine. I think the shifter was around $400 plus whatever it cost to have it installed. I forget how much that was. It took them a few hours.
@@ericd1632 Thank you friend. I'm thinking about purchasing a 2019 GT PP2 I saw today before its sold but im scared to death of having issues with the transmission..Do you have any problems at all?
@@thegeneral8133 No problem. I haven't had any issues so far. The MGW shifter helps a lot. Takes all the play out of it. It's still kind of notchy when you shift with the stock tranny fluid, especially when it's cold, but I swapped out the stock fluid for BG Syncro shift 2 full synthetic fluid and it made a huge difference. Much better now.
Doesn’t a short throw shifter stress out the forks ?
I have mixed emotions about my MT82. I feel like my second gear is so grabby sometimes and when I dip the clutchcto shift sometimes the car jerks which is annoying. This video made me feel a lot better tho about my situation with mine, not so alone lol preciate the vid
It took 70k before my mt82 started shifting good. It clicks into every gear now.
wtf 70k? ill have my shit payed off by then
70k hahaha bro I hoped you typo that extra 0 cus damn they squeeze the lemon out of u
I've been contemplating the GT pp2, which also has this transmission as standard, and that would cost me about $45,000 w/options...that's too much to contemplate spending more money to replace the stock transmission with a tremic, like I said, doesn't make sense.
get a camaro bro trust
@@luciancastillo1337Great idea if you want to deal with electronic issues.
And have the ugliest interior I've ever seen.
And
1:05 Engine ticking noise that is loud enough to raise eyebrows is not normal operating noises. I had the same issue with mine, and had same reactions where ever I went from people who heard it. resulted outcome was new motor as that "Ticking", in my case, was bottom end damage from lower oil pump not producing enough oil pressure down low to properly lubricate. After replacement, tick was gone.
Eh ford told me it was the lifters and it's normal.
I also found out they were cheaply made.
It took me several months to get used to this trans in my 2018 GT after driving my manual 350z for several years. But now no problems. I think it's fine. Also, I've never been locked out of a gear.
Smh dude, just save your dough and just get used to her bro !!!
What does it mean to be locked out of a gear? Is that just where you miss a gear and won’t allow you to shift back into a gear?
BuckshotIV that’s when for example you’re going from 1st to 2nd and it won’t let you shift to second so you have to wait a bit and then put it into gear
@@Buckshot96 it only happens when you drive fast you will know when it happens
I feel you boss. I learned how to drive stick on my ‘19 Coyote and boy it’s notchy. 2nd gear fights me sometimes but I never had any issues. I hope it stays that way lol
11-12 GT have a skip shift feature if the speed and RPMs are above certain level it will attempt to force you into 4th gear. It can be programmed out.
My car has been tuned for like 7 months and I completely forgot about skip shift, it was such a pain before it got tuned out
2016 GT Gen 2 manual W/ 13,000 miles only & love the transmission feel! I only run Shell 93 & Run Mobil 1 full synthetic W/ Mobil 1 ! oil filter / Borla ATACK cat-back & JBL oil catch can! W/ STEEDA / Green Filter Mustang High-Performance Air filter
I just purchased a used 2021 GT 6sp, and I haven’t owned a manual since my 2005 GTO I sold 15yrs ago. I think this car shifts great and I love driving it plus I haven’t even snubbed it once yet or missed any gears lol. Just like riding a good bike 😊
ive realized with my mt82 that when im close to my redline i cant shift as fast as i could if im 200-300 under redline
It's hard to shift fast smoothly mostly because the bite point is very high up in the pedal travel, and then also, the spring assist makes the bit point pop back so it is very difficult to time the clutch release with the gear change since the clutch pedal is variable resistance.
its a shame that Ford had to put the garbage MT82 trans in the standard GT's. Shouldve used the stronger Tremec that they put in the Mach1 and 350. From what i've heard online, the mt82 is ok to use for daily driving but not for street racing or super fast shifts.
Regretting buying this shit
As an old timer and remember the debate between the BW T-10 and Ford top loader trans. It wasn't that one trans was better than the other, but a Hurst shifter was mandatory if you drove it hard. I don't have any experience with the MT82 or Tremec but I'm guessing a quality shifter will solve a lot of the problems with the MT82
I have a 21 GT and installed an MGW race spec shifter at 173 miles. The shifts are more like a toggle switch or light switch. Absolute precision. Feels almost like its gated. At 250 miles I replaced the factory fill DCT Automatic transmission fluid with BG Syncro Shift ll. This car shifts so well I sometimes just sit in it and run through the gears. The MGW Race Spec shifter actually bolts to the transmission so it feels just like a top loader. It's obvious when you get your hands on the MGW that is is rock solid and built better than a tank. The machine work and precision feel of this shifter is absolutely mind blowing. I was so stressed about getting one of these cars with the MT82, but went out on a limb and did it because of the reviews I read about people who installed these shifters and the difference that it made....That shifter along with the BG Syncro Shift ll fluid make this car feel incredible. ......the next and final steps in perfecting the MT-82 will be to replace the clutch to master cylinder line with a Wilwood 1/4'' (inside diameter) brake hose that is long enough to fully seat and not ever have the opportunity to suck air into the system like the factory plastic hose that is too short from the factory and looks like it is about to fall off...literally barely connected on brand new cars to the master cylinder. Then last on my list will be a Mcleod stainless steel braided hydraulic clutch line. This will replace the factory plastic line and will not allow for any expansion in the line. These cars are incredible, and one of the joys to owning one is doing the research and going down all the right rabbit holes in order to arrive at perfection. Do not let anyone on the internet sway you from getting one of best cars to be had and possibly the last of their kind.
2:12 😂😂 “TITLE TEXT HERE”
I had to replace my clutch within 1 month of owning my 18 mustang GT.. I was so disappointed and the repairman said it was too tight. I bought the car new. Thankfully I didn't have to pay for it either since it was still under warranty. I hope I don't experience that embarrassing moment ever again and pay for bs
This is scaring me because I want my next car to be a manual and it’ll be my first but I don’t have the money to be replacing stuff
@@SirenS550 then you don’t have the money for the car
@@lsixty30 i have money for the car, just not money that I’m willing to keep spending on repairs. What did you not understand ?
@@lsixty30 "y-y-y-you can't afford to replace shit parts?! Poor person!"
Dumbass
I have a 2019 Bullitt and I’ve been locked out once from 2nd to 3rd once. Other than that the usual jerky shifts when the car is cold.
MGW short shifter and a new clutch with the braided line bro. You’ll thank me later. Shifter is only half the problem.
What's the other half??
WickedVQ the clutch... 😂 that’s why I posted that bro..
What’s the braided line ?
@@aronicerda520 braided clutch line to your master cylinder. The stock one cheap rubber and swells under hard driving cause a weak clutch feeling. Braided line fixes it.
For me 1 to 2nd gear is the worst in this car lol. I think I'll get used to it, I also get less lockouts when I make sure I'm in sport or track mode. In normal mode silly things happen more often but still love the car none the less. Going to keep the shifter and get a supercharger to get at least 650hp and if something goes wrong just replace the whole transmission.
Turn off launch control .. It is pain in butt with general driving😂
We had similar shifter problems on the 60s and 70s cars equipped with four speeds. Four speeds were all you could get back in those days. The factory shifters were sub standard. Thank God for George Hurst. Bolt in a new Hurst Competition Plus shifter and you were golden.
I've had mine for about a month now. I have a 2011 GT with the MT82. It seems like 2-3 is the biggest issue for most owners from what I've read. Strangely I never have any trouble with 2-3. My problem area is 1-2. 2nd gear fights me almost every time. I also echo the problem you mentioned with launching smoothly from a stop. I'm really having a hard time getting it down. I also experience lurching and sometimes even shuddering. I don't know what to do, I've tried double clutching, giving it more throttle, less throttle, etc. I know the car is 12 years old at the time of this comment, but I don't think that's it. It only has 29k miles, and it's in really great shape. I feel like this car just requires it's own technique to drive smoothly, but it's hard to unlock.
Get a short throw shifter
My 11 GT did that till I swapped to BGs fluid. Smoothed out shifts and has ended the 1-2 and 2-3 lockouts.
I have a 2021 mustang gT and the MT82 has not been great. Shifts are jerky and I get locked out of third gear often when in high rpm’s. I’m having the tremec magnum installed because it will be so worth it
I put some 20 dollar energy suspension bushing in the shifter that's mounted to the body and it helped a lot I like the stock shifter I haven't been locked out yet
My 11 gt w/ 16k has no issues now. Changed the fluid to the BG and it cleared up the lock out.
just picked up a 2018 6 speed, the car is gorgeous it drives good but it does have a clutch and shifter issue. I t looks like the previous owner installed some aftermarket mods including the shifter which is terrible I have a really had time getting the gears in, the clutch also is harder then normal, I will replace asap because I have to drive this car, if anyone here has a eom shifter and a new gem clutch please reply.
I installed a Barton hybrid 3 and I trans mounted it. Works great. The trans itself can handle 700RWHP so it's not bad. Once you see how crappy the OEM quality and what a quality the the BH3 or MGW shifters are, you'll be blown away. BtW I went with BH3 because I like the 2019 Reverse lockout.
I’m planing on ordering a GT in the next couple of months. And looking forward to changing the shifter & maybe the clutch (I’ve heard it solves the tranny issue(s)). However, I wasn’t aware you could have the tranny mounted. How much does that cost? And does that revoke Ford warranty?
@@yourmomfatachacks7976 trans mounting is easy to do with the included hardware, I highly recommend it because that solves 90% of your shifting issues. A new clutch isn't necessary at all unless you're going to install a blower or turbos, and even then the clutch is like 4th on the list of things to change.
I just recently bought a 2016 manual ecoboost. The car itself is great! always loved the mustang look and feel however the more I drove it, I realized that maybe something was wrong with the transmission. The shifter always fights me especially on 1st to 2nd. I learned how to drive manual on a 2011 BMW 335i that is an absolute dream to drive and as well as a 2008 Cayman. Love both of those cars. Since then I've driven a fare share of manual cars, all with different transmission. I got to say, that I like a heavier feel to the clutch and shifter. That why I liked the mustang so much. Didn't realize that after a month of driving that I would realize how much of a struggle it is to drive smoothly. I've learned how to tame it a bit and work around the lurching, but prolly at the expense of my clutch plate. Always thought that the previous owner was really hard on the car and maybe just needed some replacement parts. Didn't know that the whole trany was a pile of shit when it was stock too. I still love that car and use it as my daily driver, I just don't want to get locked out of a gear when I want to have a little fun. It hasn't happened that much.. maybe three times. Its just something I'm not used to in a car. Makes me feel a little better that others have the same problem, but at the same time, I little disappointed that the factory transmissions are doomed to have problems and require more money spent for a fix that shouldn't occur until later in the engines life. Id rather not spend $2000+ on replacement parts but driving experience is everything for me. That's why I have a manual. Just want to be able to enjoy the driving experience without worrying about lockouts and premature transmission wear.
its a shame that Ford had to put the garbage MT82 trans in the standard GT's and ecoboosts. Shouldve used the stronger Tremec that they put in the Mach1 and 350. From what i've heard online, the mt82 is ok to use for daily driving but not for street racing or super fast shifts.
I have a 2019 Gt with MT82 and I have no problems what so ever. I've have the car for 8 month, it has 2000 miles on it and so far, its running like a champ
8 months and only 2,000 miles????? Drive it more! haha
Lol bro it's like my baby, it's never been in the rain either lol. Where you been, I've been missing you videos, I wondered what happened to you. Got content bro, keep up the hard work, thats
11B Grunt video monday!
Even Fiat's and Range Rovers run well for the first few thousand miles. Try seeing it at 50,000 or more.
I have a 2019 GT with the MT-82, 19K miles on it. It has locked me out of 2nd gear twice and from 3rd countless times (I stopped counting after 10.) The transmission jerks my car every single time I put it in 1st. It randomly clunks and thumps when shifting to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. The feel in each gear is inconsistent, except for the overdrives.
My plan was to keep this car indefinitely. Now? I'm definitely getting rid of it before the warranty expires. I'm not paying for a new transmission if it decides to blow up after the 60K miles. It's sad.
update Aluminator 5.0L engine n/a 12:1 compression turn your trac control off per McLeod rst (only last 10k-overeworks the slave cylinder) and Engine Masters
calimer mt-82d stage 2
cyro treated mirco polish gears carbon synchro rings and billet forks Mantic 9000- better than McLeon rst-
boobma transmission mount MGW spec 2 short shifter MMR pulse ring BMR drive shaft guard dss drive line g force half shafts FHP differential Steeda differential brace
Former owner of a 2012 GT 6speed. 3rd gear disintegrated at around 60,000 miles.
Get a Tremec magnum xl. I’ve been doing a lot of research ever since I saw your channel and my only problem is what to do with the MT-82
FYI: Getrag makes the MT82 in your car. It’s a German company and makes manuals for Porsche(GT4) and BMW. People have said this transmission is made by a Chinese company and they make lousy transmissions. That’s wrong. The best cars from Europe use their transmissions, I just thought I’d mention this. My 2019 Bullitt has the same transmission as your car and it works fine. As noted in the comments, the Tremec3160 in the GT350 isn’t perfect either, and has a tendency to rattle and it’s notchy. I was surprised to learn the same company that makes the manuals for Porsche and BMW makes the transmissions for Ford Mustangs. Ford will continue to use this transmission and improve it as it also uses the Tremec in selected cars. The Mach1 and GT 500 uses transmissions from Tremec, while the other Mustangs use Getrag.
the company is german but the transmission is still built in china. at least that is what i found on google
do your research its Chinese crap
Bullits come with the Tremec not the MT-82
The '19 Bullitt has a Tremec inside.
@@kalinandonov2799 -No it didn’t.
Don’t forget the shift fork issues
Yeah 2014 Mustang broke off at around 65000.. cost me $1200 to replace the Ford Racing shifter I had in it.
There's nothing wrong with the MT-82..... take your time and Push the Clutch TOO THE FLOOR..... don't shift at 5-7k ALL THE TIME, dont "Dog" on her or do Burnouts ..... the 5.0s are not Race Cars from the factory..... upgrade the clutch, trans and Differential(Unless you like the 3.73, just change the fluid after runs) if your gonna RACE AND TRACK..... other than that.... take it easy
BTW I have a 2016 S550 5.0.... My MT-82 hasn't giving me any problems.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ just sayin
When they ask you why it's ticking just tell them because it's the bomb
I bought my 2020 gt pp1 in November with 3,000 miles on it. When I put it away for winter storage it had 3,500 miles. First mod was the steeda clutch spring. That really helped the feel of the clutch. I've been driving manuals for 30 years and I actually stalled my car twice with the stock spring (it sucks that bad) I'm thinking about trying the steeda shifter bracket and if that doesn't help the shifts I'll go mgw.
Any issues with your transmission as of today bro? As far as no mechanical issues or repairs
When going to 3rd just push forward it will center automatically and fall into 3rd without issue.
Looks like you're shifting a bit rough when you did that pull. Can you try shifting a bit slower? maybe it just needs a less forceful shift to not get locked out? Maybe the shifter doesn't like to be rushed?
should i take the shifter out on a date first as well?
How bout that class-action lawsuit tho
Richard Mai well deserved
Ford paid me $5000 after I sued them, lol
@@lamontmiller1761 I am having problems with Ford ..so far I have received $5000 toward a new motor basically they split the cost of a new motor. I have a 2014 Mustang GT 436 Coyote. I have already paid for a new Shifter. The original was a Ford Racing Shifter. Cost me $1200 installed. Now at 65000 miles the 5th cylinder ceased. Anyway I do not want a Getrag And an wondering what will be my best bet for a transmission..
@@theharmonicaking3283 tremec t56 I was told, it's about $3500 I think from summit racing, a few years ago I saw a complete conversion kit including transmission for that price. I used the money I got from Ford to payoff my mustang to get out of the car note. Then I found out about the tremec conversion kit. My mustang starting giving me transmission issues at 7000 miles.
@@lamontmiller1761 Hey Thanks for the information. I am trying to get Ford to replace the getrag transmission with a more functional trans.because everyone knows about the lockout at third. That little getrag cannot handle the torque.
I don’t want to jinx it, but mine has been solid so far (3000 miles). I have not taken it to a track, but I have done some hard acceleration. I’ll upgrade if I ever have an issue, but for now “if it ain’t broke...” It is less precise than Audi or Honda manuals I have driven, but no surprise there.
The MT-82 was the only reason why I didn't get a GT and picked up a Mach 1. That trans feels so 🤮
If the stock clutch is causing lockouts then it's not disengaging completely. If i get a 2024, i'll just get a dark horse to avoid any potential problems.
I have a 2015 Mustang GT with the MT82 6 speed manual with 23k miles... not a single problem. Never even been in shop except for oil changes.
My 2018 is so far so good, no lockouts or issues with it. I like to think I'm a better than average manual driver, so maybe that's one reason but who knows. I do want a short shifter though, shifts could be a bit shorter.
What does it mean to be locked out when shifting? Is that just when it won’t allow you into a gear? I’ve driven manuals a lot but just at work I’ve never daily driven a manual
@@Buckshot96 Yeah you can't shift into the gear you want. Sometimes if a clutch is going out it'll stop "engaging", rpm will go up but speed won't. Or grinding where it makes grind noises but you can still finesse your way into gear. Lockout is not being to get into that gear. Some GM cars have certain low gears lockout to save gas.
GC 10 so it just doesn’t let you go into a specific gear? But you can still decelerate and go into a lower gear right?
@@Buckshot96 should be able to. The lockout with these is usually at very high rpm
GC 10 oh alright cool thanks for the info man I was just curious cuz I heard him mention it a couple times and I’ve never heard that term before
This is why I bought a '21 Camaro SS 1LE. Love rowing the Tremec.
Sun makes me happy cloudy makes me feel gloomy. Probably cuz i live in alaska and there isnt always sun especially in winter.
I agree with you. The only difference is I am going with the Barton hybrid 3 body mount (like to keep the reverse same as stock). i am biased to Mantics. Make sure you do everything at one go. Save yourself the time and hastle.
Casual 991.2 911 Turbo at the red light
I never had a problem with mt82 I’ve heard some do but in my experience fords can take a beating
Switch the trans fluid to syncro shift. It’ll help tremendously. GL4 75w85. You won’t regret it. Also I’ve worked for Ford for 17 years now and own 3.
Im going to give this a try
@@lilgreg212 did it work?
@@lilgreg212 did it work?
I love my 2018 GT Mustang 6 speed and I have 0 problems with it since the day I purchased it? You’re car looks new?
Robert Johnson It’s relatively new. Only 5k miles
Same here. My 19 gt is fine. Learn to slip that clutch and get your footwork right then hold on. That fully engaged clutch junk at 1500rpm is not the way to go fast.
I've also haven't had much problems with the trans. I have a 18 GT, haven't gotten locked out yet...
I have mastered the 6 speed,, 45 years ago and I love my stang,, powering up soon, praxton pro charger, x pipe fuel rails and shooting for 700 hp 😉💨💨💨💨 65 year young here
Yes it is that bad...Ford did it's loyal customers dirty by trying to cut cost by using a cheaper design, with cheaper material, designed in China resulting in the MT82.. They should have gone with the Tremac in every model. American customers made Ford Mustang the 1 selling sports car in the world several years in a row. You were awarded the revised MT82 transmission in 2018 as a form of gratitude...
Ford doesn't have a soul to sell at this point
I’ll stay away from buying one, bummer🙁
Do not need a new clutch factory clutch works perfect
On my 2019 gt my dual mass flywheel started shaking the car around 4000miles, ford replaced entire clutch and flywheel assembly under warranty.
2nd gear shift is extremely notchy and 3rd is a crapshoot over 7000rpm.
I also recently watched a friend blow up the clutch in his bone stock 2019 gt doing a 4000rpm launch using the launch control feature.
I have installed a shifter bushing and trans mount insert to provide some improvement in the feel and performance of the shifter.
Bob Brians did the bushing and mount help all that much?
@@the__black__box Before added the trans mount bushing it was extremely difficult to shift into second gear during a high power pull like a 0 to 60 due to the tail end of the trans being out of alignment with the shifter.
Adding the mount insert made my high power 1-2 shifts much better and reduced 3rd gear nibble in normal driving, the notchyness is still there though but that is caused by the trans fluid and the synchros.
The shifter bushing mostly helps with making the shifter feel more firm instead of a wet noodle, with the stock bushing put the shifter into gear and note how much you can move the shifter side to side even though it is in gear, it doesn't feel right and it cant be good for shift accuracy.
How many manual trans cars have you owned? I know the shift forks in the 18-19s aren't as good as the 15-17, however I don't think the Mt82 deserves a lot of the hate that it gets and isn't a "poopy" transmission, especially in a close to stock application. It may not be the best, but I don't think it's bad. I think most of the issues people have with it comes from the shifter. Change that and go to a braided ss clutch line and I think you'll like the trans much better.
Sounds good... That's where it ends for me. It will take 20 years before I take notice.
The Tremec has its own issues. After 2019, the MT82D4 solved a lot of the issues.
I was considering getting a 2018 GT, but nvm don’t want to deal with transmission issues
Would the gt350 transmission fit in the gt? Idk if there's any build difference that would cause it to fit or not.
I wonder if firmer engine mounts would help with lockout under high loads
An aftermarket shifter that is mounted to the trans won't be affected by trans movement under load like the factory body-mounted shifter.
At close to 30K I’m going to do change the fluid for the MT82 I have noticed some weird shift when shifting really quick, like it’ll feel like it slipped straight into the right space, but usually I’ll get more lockout when I first start the car and it’s not fully warm, when it’s all in the green it’s usually pretty smooth, I hold out my 1st till 2,300 rpm and my second to 2K rpm and 3rd I hold it at 1,500 rpm and I don’t shift into 4th I drop it in neutral to let it warm up come to a complete stop or slow down enough to put it in second and usually my MT82 is warm, when I first got the car and was driving it delicately I did notice that the shift felt almost like a Porsche, now it’s like an old school mustang but I’m sure it needs new fluid, I smelled my clutch the other day on a hot day and if you need trans fluid it’ll work your clutch harder, if you drive the car hard and a lot it’s best to change the diff fluid early it’s not like those old mustangs
Does anyone have rough clutch engagement when the car is cold, or just the first few shifts in general?
yeap! don't try to redline or floor it, when its cold. The 2>3 shift feels so notchy and rigid in cold weather, I've mis-shifted several times in my old 2016 ecoboost mustang.
i own a 2019 gt w m82. I am tried about all the hate w this trans. I replace the oil 1500k. w amsiol full synthetic. the trans will lock me out if I get too aggressive. So scotty Kilmer claims that 1 off his customers went throuh 3 are BS. I have a Booba trans mount, DSS aluminum soil driveshaft, Seeda diff brace, BMR stop the wheel hop and every Steeda or BMR motor mounts, bushing / cross member brace that u can buy along w vertical links, rear control arm and toe links. plus a MGW short though shifter-Roush level 1 tune and cold induction. I am sitting on Pedder's Xtreme coil overs w external canisters and Steeda lateral links and front control arms w Delrin bushings + 3k off after market Ford Performance, Steeda and BMR parts for this summer's suspension mod's. thanks too Zander 13 and the other Mustang Xtreme U tube Guru's. Like anything else u have to treat it like a lady-that's why they call them "she".
You must be an expert or a well read bullshiter..Anyway With that much knowledge, maybe you would offer myself a line or two... Here is the thing, you know the thing..Anyway I have a 2014 Mustang GT 436 Coyote with all Ford Racing inclusions and a mild claim of 436 horse and 450 torque. At 65000 miles the proverbial shit hit the fan and I throw a rod and ceased number five cylinder with a 7% leakage on the down and 100 PSI while other pistons were at 150 to 160 PSI I could hear her hissing from the crankcase. One month prior to this event the Ford Racing shifter failed...Cost $1200 for replacement, also with new tires an oil change, new rear shocks, and wheel alignment for a grand total of $3200. Ford has offered $5800 a split on the cost of a new motor. Now comes the question. How should I move forward with this critical problem? That being the getrag trany which I conclude is China junk.. Advice is welcome if you please...
I’m trying to figure out why there’s hate for the
Mt82, it’s WAY smoother then
My 2014 tremec Camaro
Are you sure the ticking noise is not because the shift knob is not properly threaded? I had the noise and couldn't figure out where it was coming from until I tightened the shift knob
MY MT82 IS GARBAGE! lol it's crazy notchy. It's like I can feel the teeth bouncing off each other at low rpm and slow shifting. Shifting fast seems to almost be better.
In most normal driving the MT82 feels fine in my '19 GT. I have never been locked out. When the transmission gets hot on long drives the 2-3-4 shift sounds and feels weird, like clunky metal. I was driving my Mom around and she was like, what's that weird sound? Lolz. When I started driving the car I had trouble with lurching, I am use to it...except when I am tired. BG Products Syncro Shift II Synthetic Gear Oil supposedly makes the trans feel a lot better. I haven't done it yet, but its on my list of to do.
can someone tell me about the Clutch used in this 6 speed manual transmission Ford Mustang GT ? Is it having Dual Clutch( Somewhere I read) ? In Automatic Transmission actually Dual clutch is used.
crazy to see everyone is saying the same thing. i got a '22 manual gt and 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd are the worst feeling gears for me. always feel like im grinding gears and destroying my clutch but i cant tell. aint no way ford still puts this in theor cars instead of either fixing it or just making the tremec standard
Getting past 3k rpm on 1st makes it harder for me to put it into 2nd. Now 3rd feels a little messy too when it should be smooth as butter. Sometimes it feels messy even putting it into 1st in the driveway, really hate that. Mind you I'm still babying it because I've only got 810 miles on it, I can just imagine how it'll be once I really do start to push it. I keep reading and hearing that replacing the clutch line, getting transmission mounted shifter, new clutch, new clutch spring for the pedal, yada yada that's the solution. I have zero problems with the feel of the stick itself and the clutch pedal feels good to me, but I hate how I feel like a bad driver at lower speeds/gears because of it wanting to lurch. I have to be extra gentle and baby it, so I feel like I have no chance of doing actual pulls like this.
Idk, I know I'll change it up eventually but really I'd just like to buy a tremec and get it over with
The shifter will help, I have MGW in my Z06 and it's harder to shift into gear at lower speeds are normal driving, but when your ready to do some pulls at wide open throttle it's shift's so easy and I've never missed a gear with it, once you start missing gears it becomes a mental thing knowing it can do it. That's the best 575 dollars I've spent on it, and I change clutch fluid every month are should I say empty the reservoir out and refill with Bosch #3 if you can find it.
and can i change manual for automatic ? gearbox ? or i cant ? hmmm
Change out the clutch and go with a one piece DS, it becomes a whole different ride.
Yo thank God I watch this videos... I forgot I have different modes lmaooo
still w Tremec u need the upgrades mgw, dds, boomba, steeda, bmr, etc.....i do not drag race- that's for folks w short attention spans..1/4 mile lmao! Street Outlaws are Kool but not for me- i'm just into cruising fast..hwy and backroads in MARIN & Sonma, CA County ROCK
REDLINE laser / radar is a must! Suspension upgrades next July from Healdsburg collision Center-Pedders Xtreme, steeda laterial links and front control arm, BMR sway bars, plus 3k from Steeda & BMR
selling my lemon as soon as warranty runs out
Love your videos 👍 I’m also from SoCal and just wondering if you get bothered without the front license plate ? I hate that
so far i havent
Having to decide between a Mach 1 with no options or a fully optioned gt
mach 1 with no options definitely
What do you mean, “lock me out”? I’ve got a 2019 GT and never had any problems except grinding when I’m shifting and not paying attention lol.
if you try to shift gears too fast, it locks you out because of the rev matching feature and shift blocking. doesnt happen in the old cars
For the price of the mustang, there should be a Tremec, automatically ...
I installed mccloed dual clutch and it shifts so smooth omg other then some low rpm clutch chatter it don’t bother me I shift with one finger that’s how smooth the bite point is litterly on the edge but that’s how they are and amazing daily Drivee
Is your car tuned? My 401A 2020 has rev hang horribly I can’t even stomp on it and shift, my 2016 didn’t have that issue so far only thing I don’t like about it.
try turning the rev match off
I have a 16 my first stang back in the day was a 85 GT the first thing to get is a MGW shifter and when you are at a stop go thru a couple of gear before you take off
There's a real nice 2014 mustang 5.0 6 speed for sale near me, 8k miles. After seeing this M82 stuff, should that scare me away from it?
Im in the same boat. The 2018+ are having so many problems that idk anymore if i want a mustang. The 10 speed has problems the 6mt has problems, and the cayote has a slightly rod knock at cold start? Idk lol.
I have a 18+ and its not that bad, I have never had a lockout, have rev'd it up to redline. I would get a aftermarket shifter, but I'm probably gonna sell mine because I'm trying to buy a house atm... but the car is awesome.
I’m on the fence between buying a brand new Mustang GT or getting a used GT 350. Both seem to have their ups and downs with the mustang GT specifically it’s the transmission but with the GT 350 it’s the engine seizing from oil leak issues. As someone that is new to mustangs it really makes this decision a lot harder than it Hass to be. I welcome any feedback
I’m in the same situation- although I’ve read that by replacing the stock clutch & shifter, it will solve the GT Manual issue(s). The pricing for a new clutch will run for $1k-1500. And shifter for $90-500. Would it be worth it? Idk 🤷♂️. But when I do, I’ll place my order (or not) & come back & update this tread.
For that price you’re better off getting a mach1 which has the tremec transmission. I’ve heard nothing but horror stories about the voodoo engine in the gt350 especially if you’re buying a used one.
i stopped the video when you said cloudy weather is cozy. I 100% AGREE. overcast weather is my favorite. The norm is to like sunny weather cuz you can be outside. its a social norm ive never acclimated to. Also you find rain snow and clouds dont stop ppl from doing activities you would think they wouldnt such as going to the beach when its raining a bit or still being out soicalizing regardless the weather conditions.
Hey man, did you ever figure out what those rattles are in the video? got the same stuff going on
I have an 18 GT, and I have had absolutely no issues with my transmission. No lockouts, nothing whatsoever. It’s shifts smooth as silk. In fact, this MT is so much smoother than my 2012; that I see no need to change the shifter like I did in that car.
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Dean Hawk Some mt82’s are built better than others
No problems with mine in my '18 GT either.
ford fanatic im guessing
I test drove a manual eco today and after owning 6 different standard trans cars I have realized I will just be getting the auto I hate the feel of the clutch it’s very springy and the bite point is way to high if the clutch was smoother and more progressive it would have been fantastic the trans was very smooth under hard throttle but the clutch was a deal breaker for me
Nice looking car, the contrast is perfect.
i have a 2018 mustang GT 2018 and i speed when i shifted from secod to third something happened ,,now doesnt work thirg and four . does anyone know what happened...the oter shifts still working
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Got an 18 pp1 in velocity blue, love the car but man the transmission is a big issue. Put an mgw on it and still have lockout. Had to have it rebuilt at 15k miles and theres still quirks with it. People say the clutch, shifter, and clutch line are a fix but i think the real fix is better designed synchros
My Mt82-17 has survived several trackdays, late night hooning and even the Nurburgring, the shifting has only gotten smoother since new.. Thinking of getting the Mach 1 though but need to get updated on the gear ratios before deciding.
The Mach 1 would be amazing!
Yep, I'm over in Europe so I'm depending on YT videos for information regarding the Mach 1 Tremecs gearing 😁 The 15-17 MT82 gearing is on point 👍