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Why is that even a reason to deny partner? "You're bringing tons of new viewers to the platform that have never watched twitch before, helping us grow and make more money. Bad boy."
Love your videos man.
its ass backwards logic
twitch claims that they want your viewership to come from twitch
yet they make finding new streamers a pain in the ass
@@ryuugureen4969 maybe they don't like him for the furry stuff
@@DyingDarkStar it's twitch mods some of them are definitely furrys to 🤣
@@bignig7223 no it’s that they are jealous that they get no bitches, not even a *FAKE* one for Christ sake
so basically they're saying you asked dad after mum said no, without telling dad mum said no
Except that he didn’t even get to talk to mom and he’s getting punished for it lol.
it’s more like he talked to mom, his mom stared at him blankly with no response, then out of frustration he talked to dad, dad said yes, and mom heard about it and got mad
@@jaxfilm You win.
Except it's like mum ignored you while she was drunk and then got mad you asked dad.
no. he asked mum again after mum said no without telling mum mum said no and mum's got multiple personality disorder and so she's blaming it on him.
Twitch denied you partner because whoever handled your application doesn't like you personally and twitch does nothing to prevent personal employee bias from being the rule of law. They're one of the least professional companies on planet earth.
i don't think it's a personal bias. he applied like 4 times. it's a *_company bias_*
Its the same thing with amouranth, she could just yeet her cats, sit on them and give them LITERAL TOXINS on stream and not get banned,
but XQC gets banned for showing a milisecond of the olympics. Its becuase amouranth is a big tiddy female, and XQC is a no tiddy male.
The moderation basically chalks up to favoration
Definitely agree with this
At the very least the most inconcistant we get front page thots wearing nothing and linking their social media while everyone else is getting smacked down
Pyro : _(Applies for Partner)_
Twitch : "Hmmm, No. Better luck next time"
Pyro : _(Applies again)_
Twitch : "You got the job, kid..."
_(a few hours later)_
Twitch : "You got rejected before ? How come you never told me ??? Unpartnered !!!"
So, if I understand correctly, first they denied your application because most of your audience came from CZcams, then they denied it for seemingly no reason, stating that you were "on the right track", then they denied it a third time using the exact same wording as the second time, then they just ignored your 4th application, and once you finally got some help in becoming a Twitch partner, they revoked your status as a Twitch partner AND a Twitch affiliate, and made up some bullshit reasoning about how you "solicited" help from the North American Twitch Partner program.
Ngl, it sounds like someone at Twitch (and specifically their European branch) has a personal vendetta against you.
That sounds about right.
yup
At this point I'm not convinced anyone actually works at Twitch outside of their PR department. It feels like their half-assed software is running the place.
@@kw9849 Considering how incompetent Twitch's staff has shown themselves to be, and how inconsistent they are in enforcing their own terms of service, that would make a lot of sense.
@@kw9849 that’s what it seems like
My favorite part of this video is the entire LIVE chat just saying "it's morbin time"
Hi jbh
It's morbin time 🗿
its morbin time 🗿
🗿 It’s Morbin time 🗿
🌭its morbin time 🌭
Without watching, my theory is that they remembered pyro was proven innocent of those grooming allegations and thus banned him due to not meeting the expectations of their moderation team
LOL
They're jealous of all his furry art.
Cringe comment
@@ERMOONSaladinowrongo pal, this comment is about as based as it gets. Kinda weird you commenting that, am I talking to a MAP?
@@yannyyansen9743 My friend's pronouns are lemon/lemons and what you are doing is a microaggression against lemon.
It breaks my heart to see this channel constantly kicked into the dirt by just about every major platform. I've been watching you since 2014 and to see your content evolve and grow into some truly high-effort stuff, only to have it taken away by companies with outlandish rules and standards, actively infuriates me, and makes it hard to see the name "Pyrocynical" without seeing red.
what other platforms?
@@like174888 Twitter mainly
@@like174888 Twitter for the longest time, and very obviously CZcams, as well as others.
Same it pains me to see talented and creative people be suppressed
they constantly kick certain creators in the nuts.
take for example uberdanger, his modded terraria video got manually demonetized like 4 days after upload.
i really hate it that they have these vague rules they weaponize against people they dont like
Back on Twitter, offa Twitch. This man can never catch a break.
@Don't Read My Profile Photo shut up
ok
@Don't Read My Profile Photo ok i wont
Never getting a break with the twits
@Don't Read My Profile Photo OK i wont
It’s scary to think that Twitch can and will do this to anyone, and that if that person ended up being smaller than Pyro, or not having a platform outside of Twitch, then they may never get the help they need because Twitch don’t have to be scared about the publicity or anything. What an honestly terrible site with awful management
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh my sweet summer cinnamon roll. Wait until you learn that banking corporations can do this to you. You're getting scared at shrimp right now. There's lobster out there.
@@LyaksandraB silly little goose
@@LyaksandraB what does that have to do with anything xdddd, but hell yeah brother let's go get some crypto and invest in some dank nfts to destroy the evil banks as our monkeys get stolen and we get rug pulled every hour!
@@LyaksandraB "Chase Bank has permanently disabled your checking account and frozen any incoming/outgoing funds for saying bad thing on twitbook"
George Orwell doesn't even WISH he could have thought of things that bad
@@Talulah_Artorius they stole my monkey :(
I want another - actually good - company to take twitch‘s place.
Someone please make it like eith Nebula
@@willbe3043based
"Too many of your viewers come from external sites"
-The same website where all their top streamers have massive CZcams followings
Twitch staff continues to confuse the ever living shit out of me
Its because Youre not thinking like them. Stop thinking smash head into wall until massive brain damage and boom you are twitch staff
Aaaah there's someone at Twitch that really hates you.
Twitch being the high standard of morale with no history of favoriting some streamers despites their conduct.
Salut le SadPanda, merci pour tout ce que tu fais, bonne continuation à toi
This. Vtubers from CZcams are cross platforming to Twitch and they get a free pass, yet Pyro doesn't
Oh yeah, it's a lot of nepotism. Once you get a good Twitch contact on the inside, it's easy to get streamers partnered through them.
And it goes the other way as well, some twitch employees just hate certain content creators and will do anything in their power to keep them off the platform.
The fact that a single individual's PERSONAL hatred towards someone, can affect that person's means of making good revenue off of their platform, because there is no good competition, is absolutely bizarre to me.
Keep in mind that individual's personal belief is also directly affecting twitch's bottom line.
Come on..If you wanna hate someone, do it outside of your professional setting.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg to be fair, Pyro gained a lot of popularity attacking Twitch for it's accommodations with Twitch thots in general.
fun fact: this is the first time in almost three years that Pyro's posted a main channel video that's under 10 minutes
Bruh
miss the days when he uploaded 10 minute videos almost daily
there is that e3 2019 video which is technically just 2 years old
I thought this was a pyrolive video
Interasting
Pyro explaining in massive detail why he was banned at twitch:
The chat: 🗿it’s morbin time🗿
So basically, they rejected your application for partnership, because you introduced Twitch to a new audience. That makes sense
the only way for pyro to get unbanned is to post funny petscop 2
TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMONG 🗿it’s morbin time🗿
come back
True
Shut up checkmark
Unless twitch can prove they sent a denial email and that you deleted the message, I think you're in the right pyro. Best of luck.
They rejected his earlier applications, and they're a private company so they can do whatever they want. They wrote the rules, they enforce them, good luck in court if you so choose that route.
@@Lakius "they are a private company, they can enforce a law to fuq you in the ass, they can do whatever they want"
What kind of logic is tht
@@Lakius Who the fuck even talked about suing? How can you be such a Twitch ball licker to jump straight to conclusions and say that a person's going to lose some court appeal that's not even been proposed?
@Lakius2401 NPCs be like:
@@Lakius But he didn't violate the rules
"Do not give pyro a platform to stream himself."
-Someone at Twitch
It's bizzare that Twitch wouldn't want to actively take another platform's viewers.
I wish CZcams would put more effort into their live-streaming features making it super clean and pleasing to utilize. Twitch streaming is such a gamble
petscop 2
Live tab isn't live half the time
Twitch grants so much for analytics that CZcams just has zero of. completely agree the game needs to step up
They could honestly take the streaming community by a storm. Twitch has always been kinda shaky, so youtube could just yoink the rug underneath them.
Then again it's another corporate entity so what's the difference lmao
@@bdang67 CZcams is run by Google , the biggest and richest mega-empire of media in the entire planet...
Why wouldn't Google just buy Twitch already and merge both websites ?
The reveniew would be insane and we would get the best of both worlds on one place.
This sounds otherworldly
When I got offered Partner I had way less viewers than 1k, maybe 150. And just barely hit the hourly goal.
I didn't accept it as the contract had some content exclusivity to it. As a CZcamsr that wasn't too interesting at the time
Twitch reps reached out to me, TWICE, asking me to accept it. But were unable to negotiate anything
- Also most of my traffic was from CZcams, just like pyro
So this isn't consistent from Twitch, someone done massively goofed
@The Click Aye Cliccy Wiccy, fancy seeing you here!
It certainly has everything to do with his CZcams channel/content and nothing to do with him "soliciting" or not reaching goals. Someone at Twitch hates him and they're doing everything they can to keep him out. From a business standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense to turn down someone with 4.7M CZcams subscribers. Pyro seemingly doesn't even have the same contractual hangups that you do/did (which are entirely justified).
They just hate Pyro, click, and they're almost not professional about it.
Wow, wtf... Also, nice seeing you here Click.
Omg clickity wickity
Pyrocynical: why twitch banned me
0:28 Tom Nook: 🗿it's morbin time🗿
Funny how he's saying "boobs bad" on twitch and now a year later there are a shit ton, actual shit ton of boob streamers on the platform, oh how far we have fallen
Hey Pyro, Twitch nerd here. I don't know if you'll see this but I have a suggestion... Since you're now no longer under any legal obligation to stay faithful to Twitch (considering you're not even an Affiliate anymore) You could give Twitch the middle finger by Multi-Streaming on both Twitch AND CZcams simultaneously. Twitch HATES THIS because your content on their platform is no longer exclusive to them for 24 hours under the affiliate clause. So you could stream on your Twitch channel with the benefit of bringing even MORE people to your CZcams content, Stream on your PyroLive Channel simultaneously, and make money while being live.
Just a thought!
Check and mate.
nice but idk if its viable?
@@warduxe A bunch of streamers used to do this so it might have some merit.
@@warduxe Even if it's not, if it'll get Twitch's attention and piss 'em off cuz he's not legally restricted anymore, it'll force their hand and could possibly bring legal courts into play.
@@c0baltl1ghtn1ng Even if Twitch takes it to court, what can they achieve if he has no legal obligation to not stream on two platforms simultaneously? Nothing but wasting his time. If he gets a lawyer (which he definetely should in such a case), then the lawyer will do almost all the work for him, stress would be minimal. Twitch would lose, because he has no obligation. Then he can get a bit of money because they wasted his time and Twitch either has to give back his affiliate status or just ban him outright.
I think this is a very good suggestion by Zero Excuse. If Twitch wants to play stupid games, then they should only win stupid prizes.
Is bumping possible on yt comments? Well im gonna try regardless
Pyro: So I've lost my Twitch partnership
The entire fucking chat: 🗿ITS morbin' time 🗿
That's indeed a thing.
Lmao
@@thefrenchcaller7803 It's the best movie ever created
@@michaupinski6506 nah its the movie ever.
@@thefrenchcaller7803 Ever in our hearths
i think the only way for things like this to stop happening is to remove the secrecy with the decision making 'n whatnot so you know who exactly is just fucking around with the system because they personally dislike you and get them fired for unprofessionalism or something
otherwise they just will never get held accountable
more like putting ur name in the goblet of fire then get yelled at by dumbledore
This has to be illegal conduct. Breach of contract and a company violating their own terms of service isn't kosher.
Very treyf
big words I dont understand
Technically its their platform. If they wanna screw over their creators they can. Just look how youtube screwed their animators by changing the monetization system.
@@kittentheboss2796 Provided they even know what's happening, considering how most stories about Twitch seem to follow the "nobody knows what anyone else is doing" logic.
@@kittentheboss2796 those are different issue. Twitch is break their own rule, youtube is changing their rule.
Twitch Really be out here Gaslighting you.
Hey starcat
Twitch pretty much buttfuck pyro
Hello mate
They said yeaaaa but actually nooooo lol
I wish people would stop overusing that word
this sucks so much, so many companies have default copy pasted answers that help no one, when all people want is a why, if youre sending someone to check it out, why cant it at least explain the situation? it already had to go through the trouble to verify if it was allowed or not
and this is with a big youtuber, imagine with people that are starting
also the fact that the partnership *wasnt* rejected and was just..forgotten, then somehow pyro got blamed for..reapplying..when reapplying isnt against the rules & theres nothing that says that you have to inform you tried and didnt get selected before is just, beyond dumb
besides, why does it matters if you got rejected before? in theory every time you try to apply your application should've been valued alone, not based on past cases unless theres some good reason for it
Post on Twitter. Post on FB. Post everywhere with this information. Make sure to @Twitch every chance you get. Make it as public as possible so Twitch has to actually reach out and talk to you. Make sure that any email any text/IM etc. you post publicly. Make it where they have to talk. Make it show twitch has to do something and damage control and handling your issue is a prime issue.
My friend got banned on twitch for uhh... "hateful conduct". On a stream where he was just assembling puzzles live.
Twitch never replied to him, never reasoned, never checked, he streams on CZcams for a couple years now
Puzzles are hateful against OCD people shake my head my head
/s
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 I have OCD and puzzles make me coom
Are we talking about Neonomi? Like, АБАДО-О-ОН guy?
Normally to comments like this I think to myself "nah, they definitely broke the rules... they just don't want to admit it and play the victim instead". However, when talking about twitch, they really do just ban people for no reason whatsoever.
Nah Bruv Twitch is a shit platform, I dont even hate *most* streamers, It just needs to be fucking nuked or sold to someone competent, Fuck they cant even Follow their own rules for "acceptable content"
Pyro is hated by everysingle company, he is the Trump of the internet, but he just blinks and gets banned
i wounder why tho
Yeah I kinda feel bad for him
Trump is the trump of the Internet, still a good comparison though.
True
Trump’s american, totally different.
You should do a long essay vid on breaking bad I think it would be really interesting to watch you dive into some of the characters plus it's just a really interesting show over all
I hope you'll be streaming anyway, despite this ridiculous situation. Your streams are super fun because of your personality. I'm from Europe and your streams are accesable to my working schedule. Always happy to see you but not always at 2:00AM (as another streamers I watch). I love youe dude and I hope you do well despite all of this. xoxo
Pyro asked the Partnership at knife point
@@lucjanl1262 naw jit trippin 💀
edit: Bro said "pls draw female pyrocynical" and then deleted it 💀💀
🗿it’s morbin time🗿
Upload more ya noob
He is British, after all.
☕️
This is why twitch is a joke of a platform. If Amazon didn't buy them, I'm sure they would of been in big trouble when these big things have been happening to them.
kinda insane how every twitch streamer has absolutely nothing good to say about twitch
Yea twitch be like that, ive been a streamer for 4 years and it took me 1 year to actually get partnership even though i destroyed all the requirements at the time. Twitch is GGs
Checkmark.... must... like...
The live chat from this premiere gave some really good pointers and life advice.
Absolutely inspirational throughout the whole video.
Morb
GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
It's morbin time
🗿it’s morbin time🗿
🗿it’s morbin time🗿
Pyro's collecting bans from every platform like Pokémon cards, huh?
if he collected Morbius tickets there would be more MORBIN TIME
gotta catch em all yo
He truly is a Leafy clone kek. (this comment is a sarcastic joke)
Like certificates in Pizzeria Simulator
The only thing I know about twitch is that the moderators do drugs. Herman Li (guitarist for DragonForce) got banned without telling him why, and it looks like it was because he played his own music
Twitch has gone from actively discouraging streamers from actually streaming games to straight up telling them to piss off, that's nice
All it takes is for CZcams Streaming to be viable, reliable, and polished and Twitch would be blown out of the fucking water. The absolute dumpster that the Twitch staff have left that site in is so degenerative
And CZcams management isn't much better than Twitch. Susan manages to fuck something up just by existing.
that would just create more autisitic competitive strive.
@Danial Syahiran This reads like it's been written by an AI, are you having a stroke dude? Hahahahaha
@@BalthorYT He probably just saw the new Thor trailer and can only think about Gorr the God Butcher lol
It's crazy how CZcams could literally destroy every other competitor if they got their shit together
pyro gets banned from twitch, then proceeds to promote his twitch in the description
ok
@scale what
this is definitely a pyro moment
Lol
I missed you man
0:20 mangos in the chats boys
To be honest I never new you streamed until now crazy how much you grown I remember whenever you roast people.
I'm actually convinced that Pyro has been cursed to be banned from every single social media platform ever except CZcams.
And I think the only reason he hasn't been banned from CZcams is because Susan is still waiting for Petscop 2.
the seccond he posts Petscop 2 he's out. And he knows this. That's why he wont ever do it.
Now everything makes sense
@@RonaldoVODS oh. My . GOD THATS SO TRUE
He made a pact with the devil, on one hand he would make great review content, on the other he gets shafted on every social media
Lmao
Twitch really givin Pyro no platform to defend himself :(
still got youtube
Is that a reference to something?
edit: nvm I am rarted
Poor Pyro with no platform, as you're watching this right now on a widely accessible site/app
H3 talking to Twitch CEO too, I guess
@@hellothisismufin God that was 6 years ago...
i love that the entire live chat is just 🗿 it's morbin time 🗿
twitch employees are reddits mods in their spare time....
you know what they say
"don't give pyro a platform to defend himself"
-h3h3
I thought Ethan from H3H3 said that
@@Dan.Schneider ehh i dont remember, funny drama anyways
That was h3h3
@@Dan.Schneider I feel like this would be something both of them would say
@@WitheredDayZz Nah H3 is more crazy. He just called for terrorist attacks the other day
I hope you can finally catch a break man I can't believe you'd get banned
he's not banned lmao its clickbait
I mean, he did violate the partnership agreement for the application by not disclosing it. Seems like it could have been easily avoided
@@Ang-yd1bx surely it begs the question how a different section of the same company can fail to check whether someone has applied or not
@@Michael-Dolences what do you mean, isn’t that how he was caught?
@@Ang-yd1bx yeah after a few months, the level of incompetence is legendary. Also it's dumb that he even had to resort to using a third party because he had like over 10 fold the requirements. This entire thing shows just how terrible Amazon is at hosting this site and supporting it's creators, they're somehow making youtube look good and that's really saying something
Sorry to hear, I hope things go well so you can stream again !
Me Opening Chat Replay : ITS MORBIN TIME 🗿
Imagine if you weren't a known youtuber going through all of this. It must be bleak for people who do not have a large following.
DankPods shared his experience with Twitch a while ago, and boy, did he not have the kind words for them.
He ended up moving to Floatplane.
Well with twitch being able to push anyone around, its bleak for any creator who is in their bad graces
@@JeanMarceaux fuck Twitch for screwing over my nugget boy
Honestly it seems like this is specifically because he is a known youtuber. You can't possibly be this incompetent, someone has to specifically dislike you. Same with dankpods case
@@ExValeFor does seem like it, although I fail to understand how anyone can hold a grudge against DankPods. Maybe someone on twitch staff is named Craig, or has failed to acquire taste for free-form jazz.
This just seems like a classic case of twitch mods making decisions based on personal feelings and bias. Seems like someone at twitch just doesn't like Pyro lol.
Not giving Pyro a platform to defend himself. Call the Keem
It seems that he had a major controversy that he is practically blacklisted, no matter how many years have passed. Wasn't that that Pyro wasn't allowed into a youtuber event in the UK years ago, despite purchasing the meet & greet twice?
You'd think it would happen to more people too... There's got to be so many people on twitch more controversial than Pyro to the point where this would at least be a known issue, but who knows. It sucks for him big time
@@lumirairazbyte9697 what controversy? that hes a furry that likes vore?
yea major controversy holy i guess, fuck people and their kinks.
@@lumirairazbyte9697 well wasn't that the morgz guy? I could understand since pyro was on his ass for multiple videos, but yea there was another event in America I can recall where he spent like 3 hours stuck in "security" I believe
Take them to court
You ever notice how the best youtubers get banned from twitch
that's actually immensely cringe, i can't imagine why twitch would act this way towards you unless there's some specific person in twitch's eu side staff that utterly despises you and is going out of their way to try and veto all your partnership applications and found out you got through anyway and pulled some complete bullshit like this to revert it.
I wonder if Twitch ghosted him because someone at Twitch still thinks he's a nonce or something
Like the Twitch staff would have a problem with that. There's probably plenty of em out there.
@@failedabortion1894 they banned him because they realized hes actually not one
@@failedabortion1894 they probably wanna pretend to have a problem with that though. Like how male streamers get banned for being shirtless or less conventionally attractive female streamers get less privileges than the attractive ones. But Twitch pretends to not be biased
MiniLadd
1:42 "Believe me i got like the Elder scrolls moth priests to have a look at it" Laughed my ass off XD
Pyro's name is Naill
Most of the stories i ever hear about twitch tend to be horror stories. Like things going wrong for a creator, drama or why they're going to switch to another streaming platform. Most of the issues tend to be due to twitch having a lack of discovery too.
Twitch is a terrible platform
twitch support is horrible you seriously can't get any help unless your big like pyro and even then they probably won't respond to you. youtube support sucks but atleast you can reach out on twitter and have some kind of a response on twitch it's just an empty void
Twitch team just likes to rub their dicks to all the softcore p0rn on the site.
5 bucks says that someone at Twitch has a grudge against pyro. Like it makes sense for this shady ass events that happen. Good luck pyro and hope that person gets fired
Some furry or other form of degenerate probably
It wouldn't shock me if a controversy some years back had something to do with it, but they completely failed to notify him if that's the case. "On the right track" implies there's any chance he'll have a shot at it by surpassing the requirements even more.
twitch always had staff members with grudges against several creators
Your not wrong to assume this. I bet there are a few streamers at the top who pay for that spotlight.
@@RottingFarmsTV Wdym some furry? Pyro IS a furry, why would fellow furries hate him?
Pyro: blinks
internet company's: banned
everybody gangsta until pyro realeases a video that is not 7 years long
Lawyer here, I'd recommend getting in contact with a solicitor and having them get in touch with Twitch if you still want to be on the platform. You haven't really breached as far as I can tell. Their failure to get back to you within the alotted 2 weeks means you were likely within your rights to try to get in contact with them another way.
Is It possible for Pyro to get back at Twitch? The fact they gave him no answer for far longer than It was esteemed with no other way to act (they backed him into a corner) and did not actually tell him his latest attempt had been declined. Then the reason for removing his status being he solicited Partner without telling them that he had been rejected, when in reality that latest apply had not been answered?
I mean if the reason for the ban is that Pyro had been rejected and didnt tell them, but the latest apply was never answered, he wasnt rejected, he was just left on read. Isnt there something there to work with? (Besides the fact if your application is forgotten you are stuck is kind of lame)
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 I think that's pretty thin grounds anyway. Twitch is a single entity. There's no reason why he should have to notify them that he was previously rejected when they should be on notice for that already Plus, that is not a prerequisite to reapply for partner in any other circumstances.
@@kirkrotger9208 interesting. I dont know anything about legality myself, thats why I asked. Thanks for answering btw ^^
@@kirkrotger9208 it's not a single company tho,they have HQ's all around that play by different rules then what's in the terms, super scummy
@@kirkrotger9208 yeah their partnership application doesnt ask if you were denied before or anything. twitch is hellish
It's actually tragically funny because pyro hasn't abused a cat like another streamer yet they're still streaming while my boy is flabbergasted at twitch banning him for wanting a damn reply for partnership
Not convinced
either the handeler that go your application has a personal grudge with you or someone on twitch knows your content, hates it, and looked deep into the rules to find the smallest excuse to ban you
Creators bringing in their pre-established audience is not a drawback, it is an actual principle of platform ecosystem. But am I shocked that Twitch does not understand its own service and business model? Nope, not at slightest.
Yeah, like it's a bad thing when you bring new customers to a platform???
It's certainly a drawback if those people only visit the platform to watch that single creator. You're assuming that people will go watch a pyro stream, and then suddenly decide to start browsing the Twitch frontpage, and subscribe to literally anyone else. If people only follow one creator on the platform, and they use their free subscription on them, it's a net loss for Twitch.
To say they don't understand their own business model is disingenuous, they're the biggest and most successful live streaming platform out there. Twitch certainly has tons of issues, but not understanding growth isn't one of them. you can either claim they're bumbling idiots who are successful due to no work on their part, or they're a greedy corporation who only cares about making money off their creators. But you can't argue they're both, because if they were inept and greedy they would be just as unsuccessful at making money.
@@williamrutherford553 Disagree. Many companies are inept and greedy; they're just too big to fail. They will eventually fail, but it will take a while. Just because something is successful doesn't mean its good or sustainable.
@@williamrutherford553 yeah but people only going to twitch to watch pyro is still better then peole not going to twitch at all? Its cutting off your nose to spite your face
@@williamrutherford553 It's not a drawback. If someone is only going onto Twitch to watch Pyro, they by definition aren't using or joining Twitch anyway; Twitch doesn't "lose" that user, or chance to get that user, because they neither had them nor were going to get them anyway. There's no overhead on Twitch's behalf from people using Twitch to watch streams, they don't lose money either.
Now, multiply this individual who is only there for Pyro by, let's say 10,000 (that' about the number from when I last watched a CZcams stream, although admittedly it wasn't Pyro). That's 10,000 users who are now on the Twitch platform who otherwise wouldn't have come. Statistically, some of them will get curious and click around, and some of those will join.
*everyone* who inorganically uses Twitch is not going to join Twitch, but due to lack of cost or loss, if at least one person does, Twitch has become better off. And the more someone streams and brings over users, the more people will naturally join Twitch.
In my opinion, Twitch should have a legal obligation to explain they're bans. At this rate, they could just freely ban anyone just for the shits and giggles and never explain why. They're compromising peoples' careers here, and it is a moral necessity to at least show their reasoning for it.
They are a private company they could kick everyone out and replace them with strippers without notice if they wanted
Seriously similar to Dr. Disrespect banned looks like he may have been forced to sign a non disclosure agreement .Twitch is just not a good platform.
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w yeah... Your point? Just because they're private doesn't mean we can't call them out on their obvious BS in hope that they change.
@@sabersz not in court anyways and the CZcams and twitter drama will be gone in a week.
to give more power to the corporations or the governments? it not going work out. it going get worse. the law is autistic.
This is kind of the reason why I am very hesitant to stream on twitch
Don't put your eggs all in one basket - that's a phrase that comes to mind.
I’m so sorry your partnership with Twitch got revoked. I hope this gets resolved soon (on Twitch’s end anyway). 😭💔
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The Worst Website You've Never Streamed On
and he would would title the video that wouldnt he
Huge W for Pyro, huge L for Tensinkano
Pyro needs to make more videos
Twitch is literally just killing their own platform … insane
There will always be degenerates with hours to waste who will gladly simp for the womens on there if they think they'll get attention for it.
@Danial Syahiran yeah man someone’s gotta step up, honestly I think if discord made a streaming platform it would be insanely good but that’s just me
CZcams as well
@@therand0mchannle350 blame Amazon and Google
I always think CZcams is a terrible place but then am reminded that Twitch exists
@Danial Syahiran It’s funny because it’s the opposite tik-tokers are going to CZcams and twitch.
@Danial Syahiran I think most people agree TikTok lives are universally shit, so Twitch and CZcams still have streaming
Why do you think CZcams is a terrible place?
6:09 7:10 how far apparat were these done 😂
Sounds absolutely like someone on the European team was determined to make sure you didn't get partnered, and was high up enough to throw a hissyfit when you found it from the NA team.
This isn't the first time I've heard this happen to UK creators, a creator called sliker acted unpleasantly during his early time on twitch but later cleaned up his act, they denied his applications for a couple of years. They always said "you're almost there, keep up the good work".
Which makes me think that the Europe branch is very touchy on anyones past, must be something pyro was involved in that they aren't budging on. Although it clearly isn't the entire staff since a reasonable staff member approved the application once the partner manager got involved.
I would love to have seen the internal squabble when the people denying him found out.
Someone joked about it, but I think it’s from those grooming accusations pyro disproved a while back. Someone at twitch must think he is an actual groomer, and with no legal methods of punishment, they are punishing him on twitch
Pyro’s live chat is undoubtedly one of the most ever
They didn't Morb enough.
🗿it's morbin time 🗿
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@@ShadowTVNetwork morbius
Absolute brainrot.
Thinking about it, non-organic viewers should be a positive reason, not a negative one, if companies hate eachother, your company would be glad for having users from other platforms coming into yours, spending time there and watching your ads instead of another platform's.
I'm not a manager or specialist in economics, so someone please tell me why my logic wrong.
Will you do the review, of "Golden Light"?
It is somewhat similar to lost in vivo
It amazes me how lazy, petty and incompetent a lot of companies are. I've even joked about it with friends, but I legit think some companies are just filled with people who're high all the time and only work 3 days a week
Theres a video going round of a Twitter employee admitting he only did 4 hours a week and other employees took'mental health breaks' sometimes for months at a time. Youre not wrong
@@MrFryhead957 I remember seeing that
Man, imagine having such a relaxed job
I also bet that's part of the company culture, and if anyone with an _actual_ work ethic made it onto their moderation team, they'd get washed out: either all the work gets dumped on them, because they can take it; or the other employees pick on them until they leave.
@@FOF275 imagine not only having such a relaxed job, but also being given the power over potentially millions of people, what they see, do, or think while getting a MASSIVE salary for it and complaining that you're in a bad position because some dude is going to make the platform fairer.
God help us all
@@sabersz These guys are the worst
Pyro has to reveal his 2nd fetish if he wishes to get unbanned
Bro💀
_Pyro, my son, you must've angered the deer gods_
So guys, we did it, we reached a quarter of a million subscribers and still growing.
Look up kiwi farms pyrocynical and see if he as great as you think he is
The live chat shows the maturity of Pyrocynical’s community
Very mature indeed.
Very indeed
very mature
Pyro mate, I think your best course of action is using CZcams to stream. Its not worth being pissed about by twitch’s poor management for no reason they care to disclose. Alternatively by streaming on CZcams, you have more freedom and perhaps will perform better due to CZcams being the underlying foundation and home for your online career.
I mostly agree, but it's probably a good idea for him to diversify, too. He tells jokes and jokes are not allowed in 2022 the year of hypocritical bigotism. A lot of people who's skin is as thick as wet tissue paper hate anyone who has even a single thought different from them and if one of these disturbingly unstable people works for a company like Twitch or CZcams and has the power to cause harm to anyone but their 10 best friends who are all drones like them, then they'll use it to harm people like Pyro.
@@Obversechaos that is exactly what has happened, yes. He should diversify to avoid getting the Alex J treatment, but that only goes so far when you're ALREADY getting screwed over by other platforms such as Twitch. Come on, we all know what Twitch's stance on muh offensive words are.
@@Obversechaos god these terrible fucking takes are hilarious
you got banned because you farted on stream, violating the “gasm policy”
You could try duel streaming. Go both platforms at the same time.
Twitch is a shitty platform in general when it comes to content moderation. For anything affiliate and below they'll mute your audio if it even vaguely resembles copyrighted content, and appealing it is worthless because they just ignore the appeal until the stream is deleted after 14 days.
Twitch management really shines through when a different section of the same company doesn't check to see whether someone has been denied partner before lmao
Why the hell does Twitch need you to tell them that *they* denied your application
Somebody at Twicth havin' a power trip