Excellent description of how coal was mined in our region you really covered it well,also your diagram of how the coal lays under the valley,my father's family lived in Laurel Run and what relatives that worked in the industry always spoke of working in the red ash.I took a ride up Dickerson street this past Saturday morning and see that the fire is still burning.
Awesome! Yes, the good ole Red Ash, my neighbor from when I lived in Plains lived in Laurel Run too and recalled her home being torn down from when the gov't bought the property. Awful stuff, that thing is burning pretty intense. It burns both up and down that mountain, it'll probable burn north and south throughout that mountain, I'd imagine into different collieries in due time. It won't go terribly further down 81 heading West because of the water table.
The mine portals in the Lackawanna Valley were mostly shafts, but there were also some slopes such as the Continental Mine in Keyser Valley. I worked in the Pyne Mine in Taylor as a young nineteen-year-old before deciding that returning to college was a better option for me. I am glad to have had the experience, however, and fondly remember the hard-working men I had the opportunity to work beside. We were robbing pillars and, during lunch breaks with our headlamps out, you could hear the props creak and water dripping from the ceiling as the overburden was slowly settling overhead. There were no conveyers at the face and every car had to be hand-loaded. To be sure, I was in much better shape then than I am now at eighty-six years of age! 🤨
Holy hell! You're doing pretty damn well at 86 with your recall if I may say so! Kudos to you! What year were you working down there? I've never heard of the Pyne, I'll look it up on the northern field information website with the stats, etc. Please feel free to check out my abandoned exploration videos. I have a lot of them on here and it's always growing. Feel free to email me also if you'd like sir. My email is in the homepage information section of the channel.
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories grew up in the Carbondale area. I'm always curious about the way things were done in the past. Learning about what our ancestors went through always reinforce the appreciation for the life I have today.
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories remnants of the Angelo Giombetti coal mine being reclaimed by the woods on the East side. Use to be an old rail line that ran by towards Whites Crossing. All dug up today.
I don't know. Let me give you the name on the bottom who made it. It's actually a pretty large image, I purchased it at Plains antiques. "RJB 9-70" Entitled "Surface Hazards: Illustration of Mining Terms Related to Past Mining of Anthracite." I can take a photo via smart phone for you and email if interested.
Hi! Are you able to direct me to find a source similar to yours that focuses on bituminous mining? I live in a coal town in W. PA and find exploration videos but not a lot that helps normies understand old mine and mine map features. I find this so fascinating.
Learned alot from this video too. I'm sure most of this is same or similar to the bituminous mines the western part of the state. I wish so bad there was a service where like a consultant or something can be hired to do analysis of geological features in/surrounding a person's property and compares it to the old corresponding mine maps. Kinda like a ghost hunting. That would be so much fun!
Hi Rambler. I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply to you and please accept my apology for this. I do not unfortunately know of any source materials, but I have dabbled in a bituminous coal mine before and can fill in some basic stuff for you. Bituminous usually lays in flat veins, meaning the coal does not get steep. For this reason, the coal is easier to mine with machines such as "continuous miners", look those things up. They are insane. They use a lot of belt and conveyor systems too for hauling the coal out. Bituminous, or "'soft" coal is made up of less carbon than anthracite, burns dirtier and ignites easier. It is also dustier from what I am told. There is also a lot of methane in the bituminous (natural gas), so much so out West that they can frack the coal from the surface before they mine it to collect the methane and make it easier and safer for the men before they mine it. Bituminous mines are often featureless underground, just room and pillar workings, until they decide to "rob" the coal. Thanks again for the great comment & I hope this helps. My channel will really expand here soon & I am legit excited for it. Stay tuned!
@@ksero1000 There is, consult the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection (PA DEP), they can tell you what mine workings are under your house and even use Google Earth to overlay the satellite topography with near perfect accuracy. It's amazing. They have this option for mine subsidence insurance in the anthracite region, I bet they have it for the soft coal "bituminous" areas too. Feel free to Google them and call them for help doing so.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did they not mine at all under 6th? From basically the back road to the river? From what I remember on the maps, it was like 1/4 mile wide was just left in place.
@@MikeOrkid I don't know to be honest. Near 8th Street that would have been Pennsylvania Coal's Number 14 Colliery on the Plains side & the other side would be Westmoreland. I'm not sure though. That's just downstream from Knox, so considering they had so much coal in reserve from the Marcy and Pittston veins in 1959 when the disaster happened, then probably it's not mined under the 8th street bridge. Just a guess though.
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories no problem) Could say, can different types of coal mining be combined on a site? For example, in parallel with strip mining, some underground works are being done?
@@walkingcam1 yes. They usually deep mined first, but then to take the coal pillar supports out, they strip mined. So it usually went, deep mined first, then abandoned, then stripped, then totally abandoned. If that makes sense.
@@walkingcam1 Якщо ви також можете, будь ласка, не показуйте зовнішню частину входу в шахту. Уряд штату засипає їх бетоном через показ місць. Я вже 20 років у підпіллі, дуже добре знаю цю гру. Неймовірно, зі скількома шахтами вони це зробили з тих пір, як я почав займатися цим хобі.
Hahaha, ya man, "bone", love it buddy. Isn't it magic when you plug the car into the outlet though? Doesn't the energy just summon?? Hahaha. The energy consumption from EVs will be enormous.
Excellent description of how coal was mined in our region you really covered it well,also your diagram of how the coal lays under the valley,my father's family lived in Laurel Run and what relatives that worked in the industry always spoke of working in the red ash.I took a ride up Dickerson street this past Saturday morning and see that the fire is still burning.
Awesome! Yes, the good ole Red Ash, my neighbor from when I lived in Plains lived in Laurel Run too and recalled her home being torn down from when the gov't bought the property. Awful stuff, that thing is burning pretty intense. It burns both up and down that mountain, it'll probable burn north and south throughout that mountain, I'd imagine into different collieries in due time. It won't go terribly further down 81 heading West because of the water table.
The mine portals in the Lackawanna Valley were mostly shafts, but there were also some slopes such as the Continental Mine in Keyser Valley. I worked in the Pyne Mine in Taylor as a young nineteen-year-old before deciding that returning to college was a better option for me. I am glad to have had the experience, however, and fondly remember the hard-working men I had the opportunity to work beside. We were robbing pillars and, during lunch breaks with our headlamps out, you could hear the props creak and water dripping from the ceiling as the overburden was slowly settling overhead. There were no conveyers at the face and every car had to be hand-loaded. To be sure, I was in much better shape then than I am now at eighty-six years of age! 🤨
Holy hell! You're doing pretty damn well at 86 with your recall if I may say so! Kudos to you! What year were you working down there? I've never heard of the Pyne, I'll look it up on the northern field information website with the stats, etc. Please feel free to check out my abandoned exploration videos. I have a lot of them on here and it's always growing. Feel free to email me also if you'd like sir. My email is in the homepage information section of the channel.
Excellent graphic, excellent presentation.
Thank you. I purchased the illustration at a local antique shop. I didn't draw it. Hahaha
great job
Thank you.
Very interesting.
Thank you & I appreciate the subscription. Many great things to come, huge announcement and format coming in the near future.
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories grew up in the Carbondale area. I'm always curious about the way things were done in the past. Learning about what our ancestors went through always reinforce the appreciation for the life I have today.
@@EnlightnMe48 Very true, I've spent some time doing anthracite stuff in Carbondale. A nice area for sure. An underappreciated place!
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories remnants of the Angelo Giombetti coal mine being reclaimed by the woods on the East side. Use to be an old rail line that ran by towards Whites Crossing. All dug up today.
It was my playground when I was a kid. 😄
great video, subed to your channel
Thank-you.
That is a great drawing. Is it availible as an image view?
I don't know. Let me give you the name on the bottom who made it. It's actually a pretty large image, I purchased it at Plains antiques. "RJB 9-70" Entitled "Surface Hazards: Illustration of Mining Terms Related to Past Mining of Anthracite." I can take a photo via smart phone for you and email if interested.
Hi! Are you able to direct me to find a source similar to yours that focuses on bituminous mining? I live in a coal town in W. PA and find exploration videos but not a lot that helps normies understand old mine and mine map features. I find this so fascinating.
Learned alot from this video too. I'm sure most of this is same or similar to the bituminous mines the western part of the state. I wish so bad there was a service where like a consultant or something can be hired to do analysis of geological features in/surrounding a person's property and compares it to the old corresponding mine maps. Kinda like a ghost hunting. That would be so much fun!
Hi Rambler. I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply to you and please accept my apology for this. I do not unfortunately know of any source materials, but I have dabbled in a bituminous coal mine before and can fill in some basic stuff for you.
Bituminous usually lays in flat veins, meaning the coal does not get steep. For this reason, the coal is easier to mine with machines such as "continuous miners", look those things up. They are insane. They use a lot of belt and conveyor systems too for hauling the coal out.
Bituminous, or "'soft" coal is made up of less carbon than anthracite, burns dirtier and ignites easier. It is also dustier from what I am told. There is also a lot of methane in the bituminous (natural gas), so much so out West that they can frack the coal from the surface before they mine it to collect the methane and make it easier and safer for the men before they mine it. Bituminous mines are often featureless underground, just room and pillar workings, until they decide to "rob" the coal.
Thanks again for the great comment & I hope this helps. My channel will really expand here soon & I am legit excited for it. Stay tuned!
@@ksero1000 There is, consult the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection (PA DEP), they can tell you what mine workings are under your house and even use Google Earth to overlay the satellite topography with near perfect accuracy. It's amazing. They have this option for mine subsidence insurance in the anthracite region, I bet they have it for the soft coal "bituminous" areas too. Feel free to Google them and call them for help doing so.
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories thank you. 👍🏻😊
@@ksero1000 no problem.
Screw strip mining love the video tho great n easy to understand
Thanks.
Also, I agree. I'm not a fan of strip mining.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did they not mine at all under 6th? From basically the back road to the river? From what I remember on the maps, it was like 1/4 mile wide was just left in place.
Is that downtown Wilkes-Barre around the Square?
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories West Wyoming to basically the bridge. And sorry. I meant 8th st.
@@MikeOrkid I don't know to be honest. Near 8th Street that would have been Pennsylvania Coal's Number 14 Colliery on the Plains side & the other side would be Westmoreland. I'm not sure though. That's just downstream from Knox, so considering they had so much coal in reserve from the Marcy and Pittston veins in 1959 when the disaster happened, then probably it's not mined under the 8th street bridge. Just a guess though.
thank you for explanation. Do you have this diagram uploaded somewhere? would be great to have it on my desk)
I don't sorry.
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories no problem) Could say, can different types of coal mining be combined on a site? For example, in parallel with strip mining, some underground works are being done?
@@walkingcam1 yes. They usually deep mined first, but then to take the coal pillar supports out, they strip mined. So it usually went, deep mined first, then abandoned, then stripped, then totally abandoned. If that makes sense.
@@walkingcam1 Якщо ви також можете, будь ласка, не показуйте зовнішню частину входу в шахту. Уряд штату засипає їх бетоном через показ місць. Я вже 20 років у підпіллі, дуже добре знаю цю гру. Неймовірно, зі скількома шахтами вони це зробили з тих пір, як я почав займатися цим хобі.
@@AnthraciteHorrorStories Gotha. Thanks a lot !!
everybody needs to bone up on their coal mine lingo, were gonna need a lot more coal soon cuz we gotta charge those electric cars somehow!!
Hahaha, ya man, "bone", love it buddy. Isn't it magic when you plug the car into the outlet though? Doesn't the energy just summon?? Hahaha. The energy consumption from EVs will be enormous.