i have a super tenere. i love it. i don't care what anyone else thinks, that's not the point of riding a motorcycle for me. you don't have to even take it offroad to appreciate it. the suspension will soak up everything the street can throw at it. cruise control, linked brakes, plenty of power, upright comfortable seating position, bulletproof shaft drive, bulletproof engine, easy to put luggage on, good for two-up riding, and can go offroad if you're up for it.
Adventure bikes work very well on road, too. And in fact they're the opposite of heavy - compared to tourers like the R 1250 RT they weigh good 50 kg less. Sure, they do not have the plastic wind protection but do you really need that? On top of that, they can handle gravel roads easier, have more relaxed position (yes, it may be harder to read the ground but you have lower knee angle - and since you ride 99% of the time with your feet on the pegs, it makes sense to make the other position just "good enough" and perfect this one) and often better suspension. They are very well fit for their purpose.
Well said. You got 2 groups of riders arguing, the dirt bike riders who tell you the adv bikes are not made for off-road. And the cruiser or touring riders that tell you they can go off-road with them bikes. You can own one bike and get both tips of riding done with an adventure motorcycle. And if they can pick up them 900lb touring bike if they dropped it, the ADV motorcycle would be easier because it is 250lb lighter than that.
@@ADVDad-hw9ls I have been riding motorcycles since the 90's, from cruisers to superbikes to adventure motorcycles. IMHO, adventure motorcycles are the best all-rounders. It's plenty fast and its upright riding position makes it very comfortable for long distance. I have taken mine on unpaved roads a few times but I ride on tarmac 99% of the time. It's a jack-of-all-trades.
I have a 390 adventure and I’m having trouble selling it, no because no one will buy it, I just can’t part with it, 70mph on the road great on no maintenance roads and it fits in the bed of my Nissan frontier, and if I lay it down I’m not out 12000 bucks lol
If you got a truck, then you don't need a big bike. Big bike is good for multi-day trips with a passenger and some load. If you want the bike just for fun. Then a small one is better
It is crazy riding a big adv bike offroad only because you have to pick it up, but if you do more highway use they are the best. I went from a DR650 to the Super tenere 1200. I will be buying a mid size dual sport again for offroad use. BTW your on point describing off road as off pavement, the big adv can do them fine.
@blader947 other reason that I forgot to mention of getting a big bike, they got enough power for a passenger. Sometimes I take my wife for a long rides.
@@blader947 A friend of mine has a VStrom 650. It will do 80mph. (130km) all day, with plenty of power left to overtake. It's 65 or 70 hp. from memory. Plenty of power, anyway. It's light enough to push around the garage, get off the stand and probably a bit better through the twisties than the bigger offerings. I wouldn't look past the mid sized bikes, these days.
I can sit on a chair in front of an XT 350 and carry on about how it doesn't suit my needs. I don't see the point of this video. Buy whatever you want. There's no scam. If you're buying a big bore adventure bike and thinking you're going to pull Pol Tarres moves on it, you're astoundingly stupid...unless you're in the league of Pol Tarres. This must only appeal to a tiny percentage of adventure bike buyers. I find it fascinating how this gets dual sport riders amped up though. 🤷♂️
I totally agree with you in that. This is exactly what I said, you can't expect an average rider to go and do enduro with big bike, and also I answer the ones who keep saying that the big adventure bikes it's a scam, and you can get on CZcams and watch some CZcamsrs that call the ADV bikes are a scam. And thanks for sharing your opinion 👍
theres no unicorn thats light enough to trail ride, heavy enough to ride by semi trucks and not be blown away, bullet proof engine and electronics, suspension for every scenerio. Thats; why best to own a few bikes if you like dirt and tarmac. BTW the Super T is one of the best big adv bikes out there imo.
@blader947 I Don't see myself riding something else for now but the ST. Planning on upgrading suspensions back and front and keep it until something major happens.
i have a super tenere. i love it. i don't care what anyone else thinks, that's not the point of riding a motorcycle for me. you don't have to even take it offroad to appreciate it. the suspension will soak up everything the street can throw at it. cruise control, linked brakes, plenty of power, upright comfortable seating position, bulletproof shaft drive, bulletproof engine, easy to put luggage on, good for two-up riding, and can go offroad if you're up for it.
Exactly. It's one of the best motorcycles out there . I love it.
Thank you
Good video, good points, and great comparisons. I’d like to hear more about your experience riding in other countries as you VLOG around here.
Thank you so much. My plans is to film in morocco and Europe and hopefully all around the world.
Great video.. On point...
Thank you so much
Adventure bikes work very well on road, too. And in fact they're the opposite of heavy - compared to tourers like the R 1250 RT they weigh good 50 kg less. Sure, they do not have the plastic wind protection but do you really need that? On top of that, they can handle gravel roads easier, have more relaxed position (yes, it may be harder to read the ground but you have lower knee angle - and since you ride 99% of the time with your feet on the pegs, it makes sense to make the other position just "good enough" and perfect this one) and often better suspension.
They are very well fit for their purpose.
Well said. You got 2 groups of riders arguing, the dirt bike riders who tell you the adv bikes are not made for off-road. And the cruiser or touring riders that tell you they can go off-road with them bikes. You can own one bike and get both tips of riding done with an adventure motorcycle.
And if they can pick up them 900lb touring bike if they dropped it, the ADV motorcycle would be easier because it is 250lb lighter than that.
@@ADVDad-hw9ls and let's not forget that majority of the bikes do not really go off-road either. ;-)
@@TacticalHamsterDance 95% of my riding is in pavement.
@@ADVDad-hw9ls I have been riding motorcycles since the 90's, from cruisers to superbikes to adventure motorcycles. IMHO, adventure motorcycles are the best all-rounders. It's plenty fast and its upright riding position makes it very comfortable for long distance. I have taken mine on unpaved roads a few times but I ride on tarmac 99% of the time. It's a jack-of-all-trades.
I have a 390 adventure and I’m having trouble selling it, no because no one will buy it, I just can’t part with it, 70mph on the road great on no maintenance roads and it fits in the bed of my Nissan frontier, and if I lay it down I’m not out 12000 bucks lol
If you got a truck, then you don't need a big bike. Big bike is good for multi-day trips with a passenger and some load.
If you want the bike just for fun. Then a small one is better
It is crazy riding a big adv bike offroad only because you have to pick it up, but if you do more highway use they are the best. I went from a DR650 to the Super tenere 1200. I will be buying a mid size dual sport again for offroad use. BTW your on point describing off road as off pavement, the big adv can do them fine.
I was thinking the same. I would like to add drz or something smaller for local riding and use the ST for the multi day touring.
@@ADVDad-hw9ls if you plan to ride the dual sport on the highway a 650 usually will do the work for both on and off road.
@blader947 other reason that I forgot to mention of getting a big bike, they got enough power for a passenger. Sometimes I take my wife for a long rides.
@@blader947 A friend of mine has a VStrom 650. It will do 80mph. (130km) all day, with plenty of power left to overtake. It's 65 or 70 hp. from memory. Plenty of power, anyway. It's light enough to push around the garage, get off the stand and probably a bit better through the twisties than the bigger offerings. I wouldn't look past the mid sized bikes, these days.
V-Strom was in my list and the Nc700x. I need try these bike to see how the handle.
I can sit on a chair in front of an XT 350 and carry on about how it doesn't suit my needs. I don't see the point of this video. Buy whatever you want. There's no scam. If you're buying a big bore adventure bike and thinking you're going to pull Pol Tarres moves on it, you're astoundingly stupid...unless you're in the league of Pol Tarres. This must only appeal to a tiny percentage of adventure bike buyers. I find it fascinating how this gets dual sport riders amped up though. 🤷♂️
I totally agree with you in that. This is exactly what I said, you can't expect an average rider to go and do enduro with big bike, and also I answer the ones who keep saying that the big adventure bikes it's a scam, and you can get on CZcams and watch some CZcamsrs that call the ADV bikes are a scam. And thanks for sharing your opinion 👍
theres no unicorn thats light enough to trail ride, heavy enough to ride by semi trucks and not be blown away, bullet proof engine and electronics, suspension for every scenerio. Thats; why best to own a few bikes if you like dirt and tarmac. BTW the Super T is one of the best big adv bikes out there imo.
@blader947 I Don't see myself riding something else for now but the ST. Planning on upgrading suspensions back and front and keep it until something major happens.