Nirvana Handpan - Different Materials = Different Tones

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  • čas přidán 17. 11. 2017
  • ALL OF THESE INSTRUMENTS ARE FOR SALE
    These 4 Nirvana Handpans are all the same scale (Dm Celtic) but are each made of different materials or have been formed in different ways.
    Each material has its own characteristics that you can head
    in the final instrument.
    The material from left to right are:
    Raw Steel - Hydroformed
    Raw Steel - Handsunk
    Stainless Steel - Handsunk
    Nitrided Steel - Deep Drawn
    If you have any questions about any of these instruments or would like to have a pan of your own, feel free to contact me at NirvanaHandpan@gmail.com
    www.NirvanaHandpan.com

Komentáře • 76

  • @dammit_janet7952
    @dammit_janet7952 Před 6 lety +34

    The stainless steel one has such a lovely mellow sound.

  • @MurrayCampbellOfficial
    @MurrayCampbellOfficial Před 11 měsíci +1

    the stainless steel one was very nice and warm sounding. when i get the money i was definitely thinking of picking up a handpan

  • @kindredspiritsteeldrums6906

    I'm surprised this only has 500 views. This is a great display of the different materials. Have you tried to hydroform a stainless steel shell?
    Thanks for all the work. :)

  • @pug4866
    @pug4866 Před 6 lety +18

    stainless steel shell i would go for sounds better

  • @penguinista
    @penguinista Před rokem

    Excellent tour of the different tones. Thank you!

  • @terrence9274
    @terrence9274 Před 7 měsíci

    Jay! Not sure if you still see these posts but WOW!!! Seriously. Thank you taking the time to explain these different materials and then demo them live. Going to email you to learn more. Big Thanks!! Terry

  • @Jonas_Gebauer
    @Jonas_Gebauer Před 6 lety +2

    Great comparison. Thank you so much

  • @Streamcatcher
    @Streamcatcher Před 6 lety +1

    Great demonstration too, thanks for that!

  • @TheHighVibrationStation
    @TheHighVibrationStation Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the demo, it is very helpful!

  • @vivianc3849
    @vivianc3849 Před 3 lety

    Excellent description!!!

  • @xkliber
    @xkliber Před 6 lety +9

    Thanks for sharing this. It’s super interesting! I’m surprised by the sound of the stainless steel one, really impressive result. ☺️ (the first two are also really nice). Good work, really! 😊👍🏼

  • @abintra8690
    @abintra8690 Před 3 lety +1

    I really enjoyed the raw steel hand sunk

  • @thewaytruthandlife
    @thewaytruthandlife Před 4 lety

    great vid, it shows that different materials give different atmospheres, i like the staineless steel one, but also the more snappy nitrided

  • @michaelmacdonald5792
    @michaelmacdonald5792 Před rokem

    Dude. Cool presentation. Great instruments.

  • @Pasha_Aeon
    @Pasha_Aeon Před 5 lety

    Good sound! Thank you!

  • @Melkisedek777
    @Melkisedek777 Před 4 lety +1

    Those two in front of the camera sounds best!

  • @elioli123
    @elioli123 Před 6 lety +1

    Great comparison. Thanks for this.

  • @j.d.2896
    @j.d.2896 Před 5 lety +4

    They all sound great! I think the stainless the best but I wonder if the placement of the mic had an effect on the sound.

  • @artemi-music
    @artemi-music Před 7 měsíci

    thanks for your video

  • @mostafakhodashenas
    @mostafakhodashenas Před 5 lety

    I enjoyed and of course it was helpful.♥️

  • @Streamcatcher
    @Streamcatcher Před 6 lety +4

    Yup, the stainless one sounds amazing!!

  • @SarazHandpans
    @SarazHandpans Před 6 lety +1

    Very nice comparison mate!

  • @SoulSoundEnergy
    @SoulSoundEnergy Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks Jay for the comparisons they really do highlight the quite noticeable differences.
    I have in my collection a raw, nitride and stainless and l can definitely confirm what you are describing.
    I will say that l was mostly drawn to the handsunk raw pan. It has a very natural, balanced and vibrant sound. I was surprised by the nitride as mine definitely sounds different in the way it sings out with bloom and reverse harmonics sort of in between your stainless and raw sunken. Thanks though and your playing was much appreciated 🙏😊🙌👍

  • @hilkemaatman4549
    @hilkemaatman4549 Před 6 lety +2

    I definitely enjoy the stainless sound the best. De stainless steel klinkt geweldig. Die rostfreie Stahl Dum klinkt am besten. Himmlisch. Aber wie der Himmel ausser meiner Reichweite! Danke fürs Teilen. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @alexanderca6061
    @alexanderca6061 Před 2 lety

    very much informative. Thanks. Love from India

  • @slavicsoup7762
    @slavicsoup7762 Před 3 lety

    I love the second one

  • @Breeze3444
    @Breeze3444 Před 2 lety

    That rustic gold one is BEAUTIFUL. That’s my choice

  • @s.carter1646
    @s.carter1646 Před rokem

    Wow.

  • @TheBeatdownBros
    @TheBeatdownBros Před rokem

    I may have just found my thing omg

  • @CrimFerret
    @CrimFerret Před 4 lety +5

    most of what I noticed was the difference in the overtone 'singing' sound. The hydroformed had a little and you definitely heard the finger strike. The handsunk raw steel one had so much it was almost distracting. When you played the center note it was all you really heard. It had the least sound of the actual strike though. The stainless seemed to be the best balanced in that regard and the sustain was the best. The nitrided steel one sounded muted and flat to me with almost no overtone. I take into account that your mic placement, whatever CZcams did to the sound, and my own speakers entered into things, but if anything that muted the differences.

  • @TheCreedBratton
    @TheCreedBratton Před 2 lety +1

    I prefer hydro sunk or hand sunk

  • @SuperPussyFinger
    @SuperPussyFinger Před 6 lety +4

    Superb analysis and comparison. Would you be so kind as to explain what the base terms mean, such as “nitrided,” “hydrosunk," "handsunk,” “raw steel,” and “stainless”? This nomenclature may be common parlance to handpan makers, but not so self-evident to the uninitiated consumer. I’m in the market for my first handpan, and I am finding the process overwhelming at best. It’s difficult enough identifying a reputable maker, committing to a scale, and dealing with almost nonexistent availability. Some vendors won’t even let buyers get on a wait list, preferring to sell on a "flash sale" basis only. Weighing the intricacies of materials, surface treatments, and manufacturing methods puts the decisioning process out of reach for me. Your insight and perspectives will be deeply appreciated.

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před 6 lety +8

      SuperPussyFinger there are a few different types of treatments of the steel itself - Raw steel(untreated), stainless steel, and nitrided steel(gas heat treatment) without getting into the science behind the treatment they create different types of tones for the instrument over all - they also have different amounts of care that are needed - raw steel needs to be lubricated VERY regularly and even then may rust eventually, nitrided steel needs to be lubricated less often than raw steel as it has some protection from the elements but can still rust if not properly cared for, stainless steel doesn’t “rust” per say however I recommend it still be lubricated from time to time. I also now use a brand new treatment called PC steel (not in this video) that NEVER needs to be lubricated and requires the least amount of care. Handsunk vs hydro are the methods used to turn sheets of steel into the shell or bowl shape that we start making an instrument with. Handsunk is literally doing this by hand with hand hammers or pneumatic hammers. Hydrosinking is a process using machinery to blow steel up like a ballon. Your first handpan purchase can seem a bit overwhelming but there is no need to stress - if you have any other questions feel free to email me any time at NirvanaHandpan@gmail.con

  • @thathandpanlady4510
    @thathandpanlady4510 Před rokem +1

    lol…now you have to update with Ember and Titan Steel … what’s next? Beautiful sound … by the way … on that stainless! 🥰🛸🎶🦋

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před rokem

      Titan steel? I heard someone make reference to that recently but I don’t think I actually know what it is - who is building with it?

    • @thathandpanlady4510
      @thathandpanlady4510 Před rokem +1

      @@Acolyteinstruments …Rebecca Paige … Spirit Handpan …. She had one at PanMarco and I have to say, it was pretty darn nice … I have 2 Dms already, your PC and an Arcana in Stainless, but if I didn’t, it was definitely sweet enough that I would have walked out with it!! 😊🛸🎶🦋

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před rokem +1

      @@thathandpanlady4510 interesting - I’ll have to check it out

  • @BillsYouTube1960
    @BillsYouTube1960 Před 5 měsíci

    You did not do any slaps on the stainless. Is that because it doesn’t produce the cool sound? You seemed to be really enjoying playing the nitrided the most! I appreciate this comparison very much!

  • @gamaxgbg
    @gamaxgbg Před 3 lety +1

    The handsunk ones sounded the better for me, both better in their own aspects, can’t choose one though.
    Can you explain to us what is hydroformed and deep drawn?

  • @anakapuanui
    @anakapuanui Před 2 lety +1

    I’m confused. You said the first was raw steel hydroformed, second raw steel hand sunk, third and forth stainless steel and nitrided steel but you didn’t say how they were sank. Not sure why you would leave that bit of information out in an educational video, seems important. Other than that I enjoyed the video. Thx

  • @AlchemistTongueDrums
    @AlchemistTongueDrums Před 6 lety +1

    Fascinating! I definitely enjoy the stainless sound the best. Are they all the same gauge?

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před 6 lety

      ReubenRabinowitz yes they are all 18gauge - glad you liked the video 👍😁👍

  • @PhelipeAgnelliMusic
    @PhelipeAgnelliMusic Před 6 lety +1

    Congratulations! Questiona:Wich microphone and camera did you use? Very nice sound man

  • @berighteous
    @berighteous Před 5 lety +1

    what about the powder coated? Does it change the sound characteristics?

  • @markusoz1660
    @markusoz1660 Před 5 lety

    2 and 3 for me please!!!

  • @IVARus
    @IVARus Před 6 lety +1

    Great! Thank for sharing. Amazing stainless! Raw also, both, but nitrited is have so dry sound. Why?

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před 6 lety

      IVA Rus well part of it may be where it is in the room, but each builder will tune different materials differently. That particular one just isn't as resonant

    • @mariusneumayer4419
      @mariusneumayer4419 Před 6 lety

      I believe was as you say the position of the handpan so far away from the mic. I own a nitrided handpan and is wonderful.

  • @FacuFernandezBMX
    @FacuFernandezBMX Před 5 lety

    Hi! What kind of alloy is the steel?

  • @melvinbridgewater6402
    @melvinbridgewater6402 Před 2 lety

    Stainless Steel suits my audible taste.

  • @dadedon305
    @dadedon305 Před 3 lety

    a copper one a crystal one 😳 🤩

  • @JoeyIsRadiant777
    @JoeyIsRadiant777 Před 6 lety

    Amazing work! How do you prevent the raw steel from rusting?

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před 6 lety

      Joe Fajkowski you have to keep raw steel lubricated to prevent rust.

  • @equalizer1553
    @equalizer1553 Před 3 lety

    Ok but do you have an album

  • @angelreerocks
    @angelreerocks Před 3 lety

    What about pc steel?

  • @branislavromancak8514
    @branislavromancak8514 Před 2 lety

    And the "winner" is...stainless...for me sure 👍

  • @handpanstory7026
    @handpanstory7026 Před 3 lety

    💜💜💜💜

  • @SynchroDiaries
    @SynchroDiaries Před 3 lety

    It’s stainless for me. Oh my, I’m about to spend a lot of money!

  • @downtempohandpan4562
    @downtempohandpan4562 Před 6 lety +1

    why does there have to be a dimple in the center of each note? Why can't it just be flat?

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před 6 lety +1

      Hip Hop Handpan it can be flat but the central dimple creates a different timber and adds stability to the note

  • @alexsimon915
    @alexsimon915 Před 3 lety

    Stainless steel for sure hands down much more life and sustain is superb compared to the rest

  • @wowowiiwaa1337
    @wowowiiwaa1337 Před 10 měsíci

    So what is PC steel? Thats the one i just ordered from nirvana! Super cheap so fingers crossed

  • @spiritualvapordiyormuselem485

    do u tune used pans , i hav a 9 note terratonzes - the ding & 2 'bass' notes are ok - middle sized notes 1 of 2 are ok - the high notes are off a bit - so i never play it - the high notes seem to high & kind of useless . i wish they were deeper or more versatile ...
    could you re-tune it to A=432hz ? unless u think it will lose richness
    new paint job ? or lazer art - or anti-rust seal -
    can u add notes or only when it's new fresh metal - notes ur making $ , - what if i bought a drum , 1,365 is that the 7-8 note , no high notes in the vid ? - in the asked questions somebody said wait & get more notes -
    are there any tuners in maryland on the east coast - it's rusting - needs2be sand blasted or sanded down so it stops eating it's self , maybe ur CS SC coated version u do -
    whats the trick , oil lit on fire . or is it for color
    czcams.com/video/cBTOp6pAEts/video.html checkout this duel ding

    • @Acolyteinstruments
      @Acolyteinstruments  Před 3 lety

      I do retunes for other instruments on a case by case basis - 440 to 432 is usually doable - email info@acolyteinst.com for retune questions

  • @Hannahkeir
    @Hannahkeir Před 5 lety

    The sound on this isnt coming through loud enough