Didn't she orchestrate the death of his son , enslave him for moth's while he tried to keep said son safe in his mind at the cost of his sanity, successfully orchestrated his death a second time and then used the dagger to make Rumple thank her for killing his 'worthless brat'? Might be remembering that wrong or she might be a horrible person.
@@RobbyTheRogue You’re totally right. Then again, it’d be impossible to love any character bc they’ve all done shitty things. Not the biggest fan of Zelena though, you made good points
you mean tricking Baelfire into bringing back Rumple from the dead and dying himself? you people are mad as Zelena herself, just cause you wanted to see Rumple hurt, which makes you more petty.
"When I saved your life back in that New York hospital, I didn't do it out of the kindness of my heart. We had a deal, remember?" LOLOLOLOLOL ZELENA WOULD MAKE A TERRIFIC DARK ONE.
I love how she was on a rant of how much she doesn’t love him and will run and the moment he felt pain she panicked and looked at Zelena as if she were the devil itself
I don't think she actually believes herself when she says that. As much as she thinks she can leave him, she'll always come back to him when he needs her
I agree. She's a hypocrite, that's all there is to it. By saying she'll run away from him, she's pretty much saying she doesn't trust him not to hurt her or their child. Rumple is who he is, but Belle's no picnic either. It's like she's blind to the fact that everything he does is to protect her and give her happiness.
@@jamiegarrity6439 She is the furthest thing from a hypocrite. Rumplestiltskin is not an easy person to love, and he has proven time and time again that he would tamper with his child's future just to get it to love him. He would rather trap Belle and his unborn kid than ACTUALLY change. I have no idea why you're trying to pin this on Belle.
@@jamiegarrity6439 stop the bullshit of trying to make belle a villain and rumple some innocent victim of belle because she constantly giving him chances after chances and he never changes until he knew he was going to die.
@@beckyburton9749 you stop the bullshit and act like Belle had right to take away baby and keep him all for herself! no matter what her relationship with Rumple looked like, nothing gave her right to do that. well, those like you, already hurt butted by seeing Belle being the actual mad and pawn this whole time in mid-season and I enjoy a hell of it.
I wish they could have given rumplestiltskin a break and let him be a better person earlier, it kinda seemed repetitive how he kept going back to his old ways and belle kept leaving and then coming back, wish the writing was a bit more creative
It feels like an allegory for the cycle of abuse. The abuser says they'll change, and they do, long enough for the abused to come back to them. Then they relapse into being abusive again.
@@gurglequeen433 true, and it makes me mad that he got his happy ending in the end without really having to answer for his actions... everyone deemed him a hero and the end and he became happy with Belle, what about the earlier six seasons' bullshit??
They get their shit together once their second son's born. Belle gets less judgemental, and while Rumple stays the dark one for the rest of his life, he turns the darkness down a notch
I mean yes…but also at the same time she was trying to take his child from him. Like he is abusive but when it comes to his own kids he will literally do anything for them. Thanks to all the trauma he faced he does just want to be there for his kids and protect them he just has no idea what the right way is
@KaraiNinja05 she's trying to take HER kid away because she knows he won't hesitate to hurt his child to keep power --- like he might not have beat Baelfire/Neal but he constantly killed people in front of Bae, who could never get close to anyone, constantly harmed the people Bae loved, showed extreme anger and unhinged moodswings any time things didn't go his way --- a parent doesn't have to always be physical with their child to still be controlling and abusive. He was so abusive to Belle this season and I don’t think she wanted her child to be scarred by the sociopath she married like Bae was.
Belle just sees Rumple's shop closed, doesn't find him, without considering for a moment that maybe he doesn't need to be in that shop, or in front of you day and night! freaks out and says "oh he's up to something to do to me! I have to escape and never allow him to see this child again"(ignoring the fact that the baby is his too and he has right at least to hug him as an infant) viewers "Rumple is the bad guy cause he should allow Belle to escape and not expect to ever see his own baby, even as an infant!" well, from the dislike people show towards Henry a child in first seasons, I already knew fans of this show don't exactly have a right brain and I'm glad you were all hurt-butted by the twist of 6x10 which made Belle the actual pawn and mad one this whole time👏👏👏
So you completely forget Rumple constantly kept going back to his Dark One persona and kept pushing Belle away because he couldn’t even try to be a good man. Belle literally said it herself, Rumple is too scared to try to be worthy of his sons love. She wanted to give him his best chance, and believed if Rumple was in his life, he’d either end up just like Rumple, or he’d end up like Bae, which is dead.
@@ATinyWarrior she never turns a blind eye when he does good, he just always makes sure when he does good, the people he’s helping end up wishing he didn’t help them to begin with. That’s why she’s constantly disappointed in him, because he truly can be a good man but consistently fails to try, or even make a genuine effort, because every time he does it always ends up screwing him over in some way. It wasn’t till season 6 finale that he finally decides to do the right thing just because it’s right, not as part of some greater plan.
@@ATinyWarrior he felt like Neverland was a way to redemption for him after Neal “died” and had a perfectly good way to not die had he remembered he had Pandora’s Box and just left it in his shop. As for the Underworld, he was blackmailed into doing it, if he hadn’t Emma would have told Belle he became the Dark One again, so that’s not him being selfless, that’s him being cowardly
@@ATinyWarrior sure, Neverland was a good thing he did without an ulterior motive, but the Underworld was definitely blackmail. Emma said it herself, she could have survived long enough to tell Belle Rumple became the Dark One again, and even if it was a small chance, he didn’t want to risk it, so no, it wasn’t a good moment because he didn’t do it out of the kindness of his heart. And need I remind you why they went to the Underworld in the first place, and Rumples role in it?
@@cherryrose5514 I think Belle had that syndrome where you fall for your kidnapper. I dont think what they had was love. It was just toxic. And sometimes toxicity "feels" good
@@aulayawilliams-grant2927 go shut it with your whole syndrome shit! if anyone had syndrome in that situation, it was Rumple, cause unlike what he expected, Belle just continues acting slutty and creepy towards him in the entire time in his castle, even after a lot of times Rumple warned her to stop and how much he feels uncomfortable with the way she's behaving but she never stopped(aside from making everything about herself) and at the end, it was only like Rumple saying "Oh OK I like you as well!" and in this scenario, not only being a pathetic who thinks what ever Rumple does has something to do with her, is trying to keep baby away from him as well, no matter what hell their relationship was, she still didn't had that right,
Rumplestiltskin is by far my favorite character. He's enigmatic, ruthless and cunning. But beyond anything else, he's actually honest. He's got no reason to lie. He is who he is. Belle may have her reasons for wanting to leave Rumple, but she has no right to take their child away from him. Rumple DOES love his child and Belle (strangely), and he'd never willingly want them hurt and would do anything for them. One thing I'm disappointed about the show is how they completely changed Belle's personality. Here, she's selfish, hypocritical, self-righteous, judgemental, naive and unwilling to forgive (mostly with Rumple). Which is sad cause Belle's my favorite Disney princess. "It's one thing Rumplestiltskin is good at, it's finding loopholes." Everyone thinks he's a horrible person, but actually he tells things like they actually are. People hear what they want to hear, not the truth. People think he's cruel and unfair, well sadly, life tends to be that way. Beneath that rough exterior though, beats the heart of a loving and broken man who just wants to be happy.
I agree with most of this, except that Rumple wouldn’t do anything for them, which he actually says himself (which is part of the honesty you mentioned). He admits that deep down, he is still the dark one, and he craves power, he just doesn’t think it has to be a choice between power and his child and Belle. She had a right to hate him for giving away her child without her consent, even if he didn’t know it at the time. He chose power over his child, just like his own father, Peter Pan.
@@chloehanley1475 tbf, he gave away his second born because he wanted to save Bealfire many years ago when he wasn't the dark one and couldn't even bring himself to harm another person, plus, he didn't know that there will ever be a second child or if he'll ever find love again. And, I don't think Belle was even born yet back then, so.....it's hard to ask for someone's consent on a matter when they're not even born yet.
I just got into the series recently and i agree, Belle's characterization here is quite different from the animated version. She's gullible to a fault and almost always overreacted to anything Rumplestiltskin does. At least physically, the actress looks similar to Belle, even though they behaves differently.
But the problem is he's selfish and ruthless not just honest. He's willing to SACRIFICE others for his happiness. Remember when he was willing to KILL Emma. Thats not just telling it how it is, you're psychotic. I'm sure the man beating his wife's ass but buying her flowers and apologizing afterwards also THINKS he loves his wife. Did Rumple's mother love him when she cursed him to be without Belle.? She thought she was doing what was best for him. Rumple didn't take to it too kindly, but he did the same thing to Belle, being insane enough to think he knows whats best for others but hurting them instead. Thats why Rumple, who sure may have just wanted happiness, is also UNDERSERVING of a happy ending. Even just days before he died he put his own grandson, his own flesh and blood, and the only thing he has left of Baelfire, at risk. Like who does that to the son of the son who died basically because of you.? Rumple was honest but he was also God Awful and deserved to die just as unfulfillingly as his mother and his ex wife (who both died at his hand) Like comeon this isn't rocket science 🙄🙄😒😒
anna Houtekamer Since it was only weeks after belle found out that she was pregnant and poked her finger the whole time they were in hell and some time after that her bump would probably show soon.
Belle: You call this love? Me: Let's be real Belle, he's loved you a hell of a lot more than you ever claimed to love him. Falling for someone and then demanding that they change who they are for you, isn't love. Somewhere I still believe that their first true love's kiss actually failed because of Belle. She was _trying_ to break the curse, instead of just loving him for who he was like the animated version.
Exactly! I wish TV shows could just once show someone leaving their abuser and not go back --- not everyone needs a redemption arc, and honestly every time Belle attempted to get away from Rumple I was cheering for her.
How the HELL did the writers think that after all this time, after everything that happened post season 3 finale, and everything Rumple did to Belle let alone everyone else in that time, that any happily ever after would have these two together? Belle never should have forgiven him. Regina put in the damn work, Rumple refused to change so, so many times and became even worse. In season 7, his goal was to get rid of the darkness completely, but even as one of the few who liked that season I am fully aware of the fact that even with a darkness-free heart, one so pure it was practically blinding, and Emma even with the darkness still held onto the goal to destroy it forever AND SUCCEEDED, he would rather have all the darkness bam and cause suffering. He had the chance for a fresh start the likes no one has ever gotten, the chance to reinvent himself completely corruption-free, and he still chose to be a villain. I’m sorry, but I hate to see Rumple and Belle happy together. It makes me a bit sick, tbh.
Honestly I just blame the writers. The reason rumple chose the darkness and made Hooks sacrifice worthless was because without rumple as the main villain, this show would be awfully boring. They needed someone to stir the pot, and it just so happened to be him. Props to Robert Carlyle for having quite the skill of playing the bad guy.
Sure, he tried to be good, but Belle left him when he pulled Excalibur because of everything he did in season 4, so he decided to get his power back because, if he can’t have love, he could get power. Season 6 was him trying to be the evil Dark One again and realizing he can’t be that without losing everything that’s truly important, so he instead switched to trying to fix his family and save his sons soul. He went through alot, but all of his actions are actually in line with who he is. Season 7 was him desperately trying to find a way to be with Belle in the afterlife without succumbing to the darkness again, and he did. Sure, he did some bad things, but he mostly did the right thing. And before you say he screwed over his grandson to save himself, keep in mind the dagger could control him and he could end up killing everyone he loved without wanting to. Plus, how did he hurt Henry if they were in a land without magic and Henry was perfectly fine without any action on his part?
The Hyde Evil Queen reinstated the border spell from the first cursw, preventing everyone from leaving. The Charmings drove into in an earlier episode and it was like hitting a brick wall. So just leaving the non-magical way wasn't an option
Imma mention it cause it needs to be mentioned... I am not okay with this relationship. I never have been. First, there's an obvious actor age difference, which just makes me slightly uncomfortable, then, Rumple's controlling as all hell. Additionally, he does a lot of terrible shit to people. While some people think he should get to keep wee baby Belleskin, I believe that we can't treat him any differently then normal society would. For instance, I am kinda thinking killing or maiming people is just generally frowned upon in society and we don't really want murderers to raise kids. I'm kinda thinking that is a similar scenario to this here. Additionally, Rumple literally sold his child before he was born, never told Belle about that fact until after it was made clear she was pregnant, and finally he literally refuses to let her leave or go anywhere without his knowing *cough cough christian gray cough cough*
I feel like Belle is such a bad influence to little girls. Me watching this scene knowing she's gonna go back to him. Me watching this scene knowing she's gonna end up with him regardless 🤮 Sickening and I wouldn't even call myself a feminist.
Rumple: I will always find you
Snow: I feel like someone used our line
Emma used it too lol in season 5
Lmao
Emma and hook r in the charming family so it doesn't matter
@@alexplays_roblox1k373 technically so is Rumple.
😂😂😂😂
Rumple spent a good minute and a half trying to justify his actions to Belle. Took Zelena only 3-5 seconds to dispute it and burn him. Haha.
Zelena, really knows how to steal a scene.
Didn't she orchestrate the death of his son , enslave him for moth's while he tried to keep said son safe in his mind at the cost of his sanity, successfully orchestrated his death a second time and then used the dagger to make Rumple thank her for killing his 'worthless brat'? Might be remembering that wrong or she might be a horrible person.
@@RobbyTheRogue You’re totally right. Then again, it’d be impossible to love any character bc they’ve all done shitty things. Not the biggest fan of Zelena though, you made good points
you mean tricking Baelfire into bringing back Rumple from the dead and dying himself? you people are mad as Zelena herself, just cause you wanted to see Rumple hurt, which makes you more petty.
No one justifies zelena, she is a good villain. But no one should plant a halo on the serial kidnapper/murderer lol
"Tell that to your firstborn"
Burn Rumple HAHAHAHA
Allison Louie *calls burn unit*
@Abdiel Velez Neal aka Bealfire is Rumple`s first born.
@@mimull1378 this evil woman killed him and have and daughter by a man she tricked into sleeping with her .
"When I saved your life back in that New York hospital, I didn't do it out of the kindness of my heart. We had a deal, remember?"
LOLOLOLOLOL ZELENA WOULD MAKE A TERRIFIC DARK ONE.
its amazing with all the dark ones running around. she didnt become one, lol
@@starlight055 She's badass enough even without that dark one darkness HAHHAHA
@@witchrich2365 hahahaha. That is true.
Rumple: "Call me what you will..."
Me: "...But you can't call me broke!"
this comment never fails to make my day
I love how she was on a rant of how much she doesn’t love him and will run and the moment he felt pain she panicked and looked at Zelena as if she were the devil itself
I don't think she actually believes herself when she says that. As much as she thinks she can leave him, she'll always come back to him when he needs her
I agree. She's a hypocrite, that's all there is to it. By saying she'll run away from him, she's pretty much saying she doesn't trust him not to hurt her or their child. Rumple is who he is, but Belle's no picnic either. It's like she's blind to the fact that everything he does is to protect her and give her happiness.
@@jamiegarrity6439 She is the furthest thing from a hypocrite. Rumplestiltskin is not an easy person to love, and he has proven time and time again that he would tamper with his child's future just to get it to love him. He would rather trap Belle and his unborn kid than ACTUALLY change. I have no idea why you're trying to pin this on Belle.
@@jamiegarrity6439 stop the bullshit of trying to make belle a villain and rumple some innocent victim of belle because she constantly giving him chances after chances and he never changes until he knew he was going to die.
@@beckyburton9749 you stop the bullshit and act like Belle had right to take away baby and keep him all for herself! no matter what her relationship with Rumple looked like, nothing gave her right to do that. well, those like you, already hurt butted by seeing Belle being the actual mad and pawn this whole time in mid-season and I enjoy a hell of it.
Gold loves to spoil his wife with pretty jewellery.
Yes he does
He also loves to annoy her and she loves to leave him
🤣🤣🤣he does indeed
♥️Their such a good couple ♥️
happycat lemon you do know I was being sarcastic, right?
I wish they could have given rumplestiltskin a break and let him be a better person earlier, it kinda seemed repetitive how he kept going back to his old ways and belle kept leaving and then coming back, wish the writing was a bit more creative
At least keep him dark if they'll do him like that again and again and again. Mans didn't spend being dark six seasons to go all good on the last XD
He never stopped being bad. He screwed over Henry, his flesh and blood, yet again, only days before his death
It feels like an allegory for the cycle of abuse. The abuser says they'll change, and they do, long enough for the abused to come back to them. Then they relapse into being abusive again.
LITERALLY
@@gurglequeen433 true, and it makes me mad that he got his happy ending in the end without really having to answer for his actions... everyone deemed him a hero and the end and he became happy with Belle, what about the earlier six seasons' bullshit??
Wow.Rumple makes one hell of an ex husband!he's not letting go of his love!
you mean after when she just because she finds him absent in somewhere, freaks out like a mad woman and wants to run?
@@altinaykor364 what?
i love bell! shes like the sweetest bad ass ever!
Belle: *holds up her hand with the golden bracelet* You call this love?!
Me: DANG GIRL HE BE SPOILIN YOU A LITTLE TOO MUCH HUH?
Eloize Pueblo shes not spoiled he is he made her wear a golden bracelet and hes rude
eli lmao
@@doniaishak5082 whoosh/
s-spoiling? darling you'll be getting nowhere in life
oof watching this when you loved them back in the day and only watched up a few seasons .. ouch, no love left
They get their shit together once their second son's born. Belle gets less judgemental, and while Rumple stays the dark one for the rest of his life, he turns the darkness down a notch
God he really was abusive this season
@Francisco Leyva Martin yes
honestly, this season was rock bottom for their relationship
I mean yes…but also at the same time she was trying to take his child from him. Like he is abusive but when it comes to his own kids he will literally do anything for them. Thanks to all the trauma he faced he does just want to be there for his kids and protect them he just has no idea what the right way is
@KaraiNinja05 she's trying to take HER kid away because she knows he won't hesitate to hurt his child to keep power --- like he might not have beat Baelfire/Neal but he constantly killed people in front of Bae, who could never get close to anyone, constantly harmed the people Bae loved, showed extreme anger and unhinged moodswings any time things didn't go his way --- a parent doesn't have to always be physical with their child to still be controlling and abusive. He was so abusive to Belle this season and I don’t think she wanted her child to be scarred by the sociopath she married like Bae was.
Wicked beatuy all the way
Beauty And The Beast In Once Upon A Time
Belle just sees Rumple's shop closed, doesn't find him, without considering for a moment that maybe he doesn't need to be in that shop, or in front of you day and night! freaks out and says "oh he's up to something to do to me! I have to escape and never allow him to see this child again"(ignoring the fact that the baby is his too and he has right at least to hug him as an infant)
viewers "Rumple is the bad guy cause he should allow Belle to escape and not expect to ever see his own baby, even as an infant!" well, from the dislike people show towards Henry a child in first seasons, I already knew fans of this show don't exactly have a right brain and I'm glad you were all hurt-butted by the twist of 6x10 which made Belle the actual pawn and mad one this whole time👏👏👏
So you completely forget Rumple constantly kept going back to his Dark One persona and kept pushing Belle away because he couldn’t even try to be a good man. Belle literally said it herself, Rumple is too scared to try to be worthy of his sons love. She wanted to give him his best chance, and believed if Rumple was in his life, he’d either end up just like Rumple, or he’d end up like Bae, which is dead.
@@ATinyWarrior she never turns a blind eye when he does good, he just always makes sure when he does good, the people he’s helping end up wishing he didn’t help them to begin with. That’s why she’s constantly disappointed in him, because he truly can be a good man but consistently fails to try, or even make a genuine effort, because every time he does it always ends up screwing him over in some way. It wasn’t till season 6 finale that he finally decides to do the right thing just because it’s right, not as part of some greater plan.
@@ATinyWarrior he felt like Neverland was a way to redemption for him after Neal “died” and had a perfectly good way to not die had he remembered he had Pandora’s Box and just left it in his shop. As for the Underworld, he was blackmailed into doing it, if he hadn’t Emma would have told Belle he became the Dark One again, so that’s not him being selfless, that’s him being cowardly
@@ATinyWarrior sure, Neverland was a good thing he did without an ulterior motive, but the Underworld was definitely blackmail. Emma said it herself, she could have survived long enough to tell Belle Rumple became the Dark One again, and even if it was a small chance, he didn’t want to risk it, so no, it wasn’t a good moment because he didn’t do it out of the kindness of his heart. And need I remind you why they went to the Underworld in the first place, and Rumples role in it?
Why do we fight for him? He was mad abusive
Ah but he is crazy in love with his wife .and vice versa.thats y
Carlyle could play satan and I'd fight for him.
Yeah I wasn't a fan of him this season...
@@cherryrose5514 I think Belle had that syndrome where you fall for your kidnapper. I dont think what they had was love. It was just toxic. And sometimes toxicity "feels" good
@@aulayawilliams-grant2927 go shut it with your whole syndrome shit! if anyone had syndrome in that situation, it was Rumple, cause unlike what he expected, Belle just continues acting slutty and creepy towards him in the entire time in his castle, even after a lot of times Rumple warned her to stop and how much he feels uncomfortable with the way she's behaving but she never stopped(aside from making everything about herself) and at the end, it was only like Rumple saying "Oh OK I like you as well!" and in this scenario, not only being a pathetic who thinks what ever Rumple does has something to do with her, is trying to keep baby away from him as well, no matter what hell their relationship was, she still didn't had that right,
A lovers spat.. I love it!
belle is rebels finally against rumple and it's awesome.
The I will always find you quote is really romantic despite the situation
Sophia Jetton
lol
I find that rather creepy the way HE said it :D
Yes it is
belle you be okay
Wow, poor rumple, I love this guy
oh this
He is controlling and monsterous
@Francisco Leyva Martin Yes
@Francisco Leyva Martin Yes
@Francisco Leyva Martin Yes he is, he needs to know where Belle is all the time and then if he doesn't he's like "WeRe WHerE YoU TodAY!???"
Rumplestiltskin is by far my favorite character. He's enigmatic, ruthless and cunning. But beyond anything else, he's actually honest. He's got no reason to lie. He is who he is. Belle may have her reasons for wanting to leave Rumple, but she has no right to take their child away from him. Rumple DOES love his child and Belle (strangely), and he'd never willingly want them hurt and would do anything for them. One thing I'm disappointed about the show is how they completely changed Belle's personality. Here, she's selfish, hypocritical, self-righteous, judgemental, naive and unwilling to forgive (mostly with Rumple). Which is sad cause Belle's my favorite Disney princess.
"It's one thing Rumplestiltskin is good at, it's finding loopholes." Everyone thinks he's a horrible person, but actually he tells things like they actually are. People hear what they want to hear, not the truth. People think he's cruel and unfair, well sadly, life tends to be that way. Beneath that rough exterior though, beats the heart of a loving and broken man who just wants to be happy.
fr her personality did a full 180 here and i don't think the actress made that pivot very smooth either
I agree with most of this, except that Rumple wouldn’t do anything for them, which he actually says himself (which is part of the honesty you mentioned). He admits that deep down, he is still the dark one, and he craves power, he just doesn’t think it has to be a choice between power and his child and Belle. She had a right to hate him for giving away her child without her consent, even if he didn’t know it at the time. He chose power over his child, just like his own father, Peter Pan.
@@chloehanley1475 tbf, he gave away his second born because he wanted to save Bealfire many years ago when he wasn't the dark one and couldn't even bring himself to harm another person, plus, he didn't know that there will ever be a second child or if he'll ever find love again. And, I don't think Belle was even born yet back then, so.....it's hard to ask for someone's consent on a matter when they're not even born yet.
I just got into the series recently and i agree, Belle's characterization here is quite different from the animated version. She's gullible to a fault and almost always overreacted to anything Rumplestiltskin does. At least physically, the actress looks similar to Belle, even though they behaves differently.
But the problem is he's selfish and ruthless not just honest. He's willing to SACRIFICE others for his happiness. Remember when he was willing to KILL Emma. Thats not just telling it how it is, you're psychotic. I'm sure the man beating his wife's ass but buying her flowers and apologizing afterwards also THINKS he loves his wife. Did Rumple's mother love him when she cursed him to be without Belle.? She thought she was doing what was best for him. Rumple didn't take to it too kindly, but he did the same thing to Belle, being insane enough to think he knows whats best for others but hurting them instead. Thats why Rumple, who sure may have just wanted happiness, is also UNDERSERVING of a happy ending. Even just days before he died he put his own grandson, his own flesh and blood, and the only thing he has left of Baelfire, at risk. Like who does that to the son of the son who died basically because of you.? Rumple was honest but he was also God Awful and deserved to die just as unfulfillingly as his mother and his ex wife (who both died at his hand) Like comeon this isn't rocket science 🙄🙄😒😒
Zelena: Take the Bitch!😂😂
Wow, poor him
This was such a bullshit storyline lmao
1:07
for me rumple is the best and the worst villain of the series
um where is belle's baby bump??
anna Houtekamer
Since it was only weeks after belle found out that she was pregnant and poked her finger the whole time they were in hell and some time after that her bump would probably show soon.
Rumple is an abuser, i never had realized that so much like now.
Exactly, And belle is finally convinced that it is a monster
Belle: You call this love?
Me: Let's be real Belle, he's loved you a hell of a lot more than you ever claimed to love him. Falling for someone and then demanding that they change who they are for you, isn't love.
Somewhere I still believe that their first true love's kiss actually failed because of Belle. She was _trying_ to break the curse, instead of just loving him for who he was like the animated version.
And after all this, their afterlife reunion in the series finale is still supposed to be happy and satisfying????
Exactly! I wish TV shows could just once show someone leaving their abuser and not go back --- not everyone needs a redemption arc, and honestly every time Belle attempted to get away from Rumple I was cheering for her.
@@imapandaperson honestly me if i was belle, i would have asked for divorce for a long time
How the HELL did the writers think that after all this time, after everything that happened post season 3 finale, and everything Rumple did to Belle let alone everyone else in that time, that any happily ever after would have these two together? Belle never should have forgiven him. Regina put in the damn work, Rumple refused to change so, so many times and became even worse. In season 7, his goal was to get rid of the darkness completely, but even as one of the few who liked that season I am fully aware of the fact that even with a darkness-free heart, one so pure it was practically blinding, and Emma even with the darkness still held onto the goal to destroy it forever AND SUCCEEDED, he would rather have all the darkness bam and cause suffering. He had the chance for a fresh start the likes no one has ever gotten, the chance to reinvent himself completely corruption-free, and he still chose to be a villain. I’m sorry, but I hate to see Rumple and Belle happy together. It makes me a bit sick, tbh.
Honestly I just blame the writers. The reason rumple chose the darkness and made Hooks sacrifice worthless was because without rumple as the main villain, this show would be awfully boring. They needed someone to stir the pot, and it just so happened to be him. Props to Robert Carlyle for having quite the skill of playing the bad guy.
shows how pathetic you are.
so sad you see world in black and white. I think you're wrong
Sure, he tried to be good, but Belle left him when he pulled Excalibur because of everything he did in season 4, so he decided to get his power back because, if he can’t have love, he could get power. Season 6 was him trying to be the evil Dark One again and realizing he can’t be that without losing everything that’s truly important, so he instead switched to trying to fix his family and save his sons soul. He went through alot, but all of his actions are actually in line with who he is. Season 7 was him desperately trying to find a way to be with Belle in the afterlife without succumbing to the darkness again, and he did. Sure, he did some bad things, but he mostly did the right thing. And before you say he screwed over his grandson to save himself, keep in mind the dagger could control him and he could end up killing everyone he loved without wanting to. Plus, how did he hurt Henry if they were in a land without magic and Henry was perfectly fine without any action on his part?
0:51, and you running from Rumple is not being scared, Belle? What kind of backwards logic?!
He scared she will get away
If only Belle never marries and fall in love with Rumple. :(
I love Zelena in this scene
Random thought she could of just left storybrook and live in the land without magic
The Hyde Evil Queen reinstated the border spell from the first cursw, preventing everyone from leaving. The Charmings drove into in an earlier episode and it was like hitting a brick wall. So just leaving the non-magical way wasn't an option
I'll never forgive the writers for this ooc bullshit
Yes that's love. When your wife is irrational
Explain?
@@alaiyahnichole8255 it's a joke
Emma Neophytou oh I’m sorry!
@@alaiyahnichole8255 lol np xD its not my comment I'm not offended xD
Imma mention it cause it needs to be mentioned... I am not okay with this relationship. I never have been. First, there's an obvious actor age difference, which just makes me slightly uncomfortable, then, Rumple's controlling as all hell. Additionally, he does a lot of terrible shit to people. While some people think he should get to keep wee baby Belleskin, I believe that we can't treat him any differently then normal society would. For instance, I am kinda thinking killing or maiming people is just generally frowned upon in society and we don't really want murderers to raise kids. I'm kinda thinking that is a similar scenario to this here. Additionally, Rumple literally sold his child before he was born, never told Belle about that fact until after it was made clear she was pregnant, and finally he literally refuses to let her leave or go anywhere without his knowing *cough cough christian gray cough cough*
I feel like Belle is such a bad influence to little girls. Me watching this scene knowing she's gonna go back to him. Me watching this scene knowing she's gonna end up with him regardless 🤮 Sickening and I wouldn't even call myself a feminist.
feminist is already a shit and you're pathetic
belle is becoming like a Milah. I hated her in this season. poor rumple!