Cars of Fallout: Remastered
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- They may only be useful as impromptu explosives, but cars have been an important part of the Fallout landscape. Their lore, and the real world cars that inspired their designs are quite fascinating. Lets see if you know the inspiration behind some the vehicles you walk by each game.
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I always thought fallout had some nice cars I wish we had a drivable car and a map large enough to support it
Fallout 2
Fallout Tactics
Another issue is terrain suitability, in FO4 the roads are littered, you try and drive a car down that and you'll have a hard time not crashing every 30 seconds.
It would definitely be a good opportunity for Road Warrior easter eggs!
@@amhuman5138 well that’s why you have to have a Location that has plenty of open space. Somewhere in Texas or Kanas for example. Driving a Car in New York or Chicago would be very tricky lol 😂.
I belive the fire trucks in fallout 76 have got one tank for water and the other tank has the anti rad stuff used in those anti rad sprays we see in fallout 4 and 76. This would make sense when it come to car accidents when radiation is involved
that's using the old thinking brain! Well done. :)
Pileups would be hilarious.
@@jtjames79 you mean horrific, right?
@@picardsolo2471I’m pretty sure they meant what they said.
@@picardsolo2471 Its fallout, were horrific is terrific XD
Those cars were laying around for over 200 years, cut them some slack, they probably didn´t explode from a mere few bullets back when they were new.
Probably.
Nice video!
This! For me I always thought how tf these cars still have gas after all this time but we can't drive them??? Weird to me.
Maybe they did explode, but not as much. They probably released just as many rads though. There are probably a lot of parts of the cars that don't work anymore, and they probably don't have any coolant in them, but we know that coolant was something there were stations to fill up your car with. Maybe they are safer when they have coolant in them, and all we're doing when damaging them is kickstarting the fusion reactor.
Modern EVs say, "hello"
@@Vicus_of_Utrecht Those have batteries that are highly flammable, though right now the use of newer better, non-flammable batteries has already started, the Lithium-Ion-batteries are getting phased out from vehicular use.
@@kamshiaevans148 If they are fusion powered then they probably run on deuterium, a variety of hydrogen. Hydrogen is incredibly flammable.
It's not mentioned but the highwayman is also very obviously a reference to the Mad Max interceptor
The last of the V8s!
Because of the color?
@@Bobby3OOO and barrels on the trunk
I really can’t believe he missed that
@@Bobby3OOO the color, the supercharger sticking out of the hood, the original model with the 2 barrels on the back, and the fact that both fallout 1 & 2's art design were heavily inspired by mad max
IDK if anyone has said this but most if not the major cars you see around the highways can be found in MINT condition in the Watoga Underground Parking garage in Fallout 76. To access you need to run Becket's Questline.
i believe the cherry bombs “head lights” are actually jet intakes and the back “lights” are jet exhausts, which explains the fins being vertical stabilizers with the car looking like a flying wing design that many jets of the 50’s-60’s had
Yeah that's great this guy in the video makes me mad All you guys need to pick up a car magazine if you're going to start naming shit the Chryslus highwayman is a 1957 Chrysler New Yorker coupe notice the bumper grill body wrap around windshield fins and taillights the cut away they give us just the taillights being missing or broken I'm tired of seeing fallout fans thinking it's a 57 Chevy or a 58 Plymouth look at every picture you are givin from even the loading screen we get a clear view of the Chrysler bumper only year to ever have that model or shape of bumper
Get your money up not your funny up
@@Timmy_840 nothing grinds my gears like hearing fake and wrong car knowledge
And back in the 50s, turn signals were often on the same bulb or in the same lense as the tail light and brake light.
The Cherry Bomb aka Rocket 69 appears in Forza Motorsport 6 as an easter egg reference to Fallout if anyone hasn't known already.
@@BamryInParis Thank you it actually hurts when people do that
God with those speeds, car pedestrian incidents must be absolutely brutal.
"car pedestrian incidents must be absolutely brutal" - well, the sight of pedestrians, crossing the road staring at their smartphone's screen and with their ears plugged with headphones, makes me think that car designs from Fallout should be implemented IRL.
Well the one pedestrian incident we know about ended up with a hood ornament shoved several feet up Lumpys ass, so brutal is one word for it.
@@Ichabod_Crane They should add point systems to cars for hitting distracted pedestrians
Just: Hey Timmy be careful where you- ohhhh now your a pile of mush now…
The back portion of the cherrybomb reminds me more of the Ford Nucleon than the firebird, but the front is definitely firebird inspired. Kind of like the two had a baby
Nice baby.🎉
A future video should include the "Pegasus". It's an Atomic shop item car of unknown manufacturer we can only see as either a workbench or a destroyed husk.
No
@@isaachunt6694Yes
maybe, i dont know, can you repeat the question?
Heck no
What is that car
This is well done. The only comment I can think of is on the Police Car - that wasn't a spotlight, but an air-driven Siren. The spotlights would be on the doors to be controlled from the inside. Hood and fender-mounted Sirens were used in the 1950's, some mounting additional lights.
Cherry Bomb is very likely a reference to early 'glass pack' mufflers that were designed to add a loud yet throaty sound to the exhaust. Cherry Bombs and Thrush were two of the most popular brands. This was in the early sixties and they may have been around in the late 50s.
Side exhaust pipes are more commonly called "Lake Pipes". They were used so that the vehicle could be as low to the ground as possible for speed runs. These runs happened on dry lake beds like the Salt Lakes so they were called lake pipes.
Cherry bomb wasn't the first glass pack style muffler, in the 1950s there was the Smithy glass pack mufflers which was quite popular. Cherry bomb stole the popularity in the 1960s and became like Kleenex got popular and is now what everyone calls tissues.
@@Milner62 Didn't say they were the first just that they were a popular brand. Wasn't sure about the 50s. I know glass packs were around but didn't know the brands. I didn't start working on cars until early to mid sixties so don't know the brands from the 50s.
I didn't think speed runs were done on salt lakes in the 50s. Weren't they mostly done on Daytona Beach in Florida?
@@twistedyogert Since 1935, Bonneville’s been one of the primary venues for land speed record attempts, with most land speed records recorded between 1935 and 1970 set there.
The flats were first recognized for their potential as a speed-testing ground by Bill Rishel, who in 1896 had cycled across the area to win a competition run by the newspaper publisher William Randolph Hearst.
I have a mod that, among other things, added the Atomic V8 Police Cruiser to the world space. Really nice looking car, no wonder the base version is found everywhere
Happens the same with taxis, I remember in the good old days of fallout 3 forums people sayed that there where no tanks because the almighy power armor make heavy Tonks able to carry 120 mm cannons obsolete (when the heaviest thing carried by a power armor its a 50 cal or a fatman) but the thing that remains with me its that:
Don't worry if we don't see taxis, firetrucks only in nv and 76 police cars, civilian passenger trains... its all because people used power armors.
Nah just kidding I thing the concepts always look cool but at the time of modeling stuff and inplementing that on the world map somethings are not well implemented or had enough time at the hands of the guy making the textures or watever when he has to texturize also the prydwen liberty prime, other cars and vehicles..
So in my mind its because of that, but yep that police car its just too beautiful to be forgotten.
I love the cars if fallout. The only problem I have with them is the amount of glass. I live in the south, I would cook under that much sun. Maybe tint the windows?
About the stick in the Cherry Bomb. One of the Firebird turbine powered cars (I forget which) had a joystick beside the driver's seat. You pushed it forward to acclerate, pulled back to brake and tilted it left/right for steering. So that's another design cue that Fallout 4 may have taken from those vehicles.
Always loved the retro-futuristic cars in these games. One historical note I will mention, is that some car companies were notorious for fudging or downright fabricating their performance numbers for sales (Jaguar XKE comes to mind, for one), so I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the Fallout setting
When it comes to the Highwayman, it seems like everyone goes on about '57-'58 Plymouth Belvederes, and Furys, and the iconic 1957 Chevy Bel-Air, but if you look at the in game sprite it is much closer to the 1958 Chysler Imperial. Everything from fin shape, headlight clusters, and bumper shapes line up.
Perhaps the Cherrybomb has anti-gravity technology and starts hovering once it gets going fast enough because I can't imagine ordinary tires holding up very well at such high speeds.
Yep
I'd argue the explosive nature of cars in Fallout is likely due to decades (more accurately, centuries) of lack of upkeep and repairs. I would assume that the fusion reactors become unstable as time goes on without mechanical maintenance or coolant replacement, because frankly if they did this prewar, a single pileup collision on an interstate could lead to a chain reaction that could wipe out an entire major city
I'm surprised that we don't see more two tone paint jobs in fallout cars, they seemed to hit there peek of popularity around the 60's.
This made me think of my first vehicle, a heavily used 1969 ford ranger in two tone orange and white. It had two gas tanks, bench seats, only lap seat belts. 🤠
They’re definitely going back to the early 50s. I wish they’d lean into 60s music and design a bit more
Love the fact tht you actually mentioned that Charles "Chuck" Yeager was the man to break the sound barrier, as someone who met the man and comes from his home state of West Virginia, that's always a warm inclusion to me.
I think some pilots in WW2 broke the sound barrier first but they didn't survive since control surfaces on those planes don't work at those speeds.
17:58 As a car guy and someone who's been following the lore closely for the last 20 or so years I'd like to know when we all decided to say that the Corvega was no longer a model made by Chryslus as it shows in the commercial, with different individual varying year models and sub models, but suddenly became its own sub brand. The video refers to the "sedan" 3d model as a Highwayman at 8:34 when its half buried as the Fallout 2 easter egg in New Vegas, but then calls the same 3d model a Corvega at 16:49. It can't be both and the devs already made it clear its a Highwayman made by Chryslus.
Which in turn makes it clear that not every vehicle sporting the Chevron is part of any potential Corvega sub brand.
I'd like to know where the names of these cars are officially listed in the lore or by the devs, and not just some copy paste wiki because I'm starting to think fans are just pulling the names out of thin air like they did with the "Atomic V8" misunderstanding.
At 20:35 I honestly thought it was common knowledge in the Fallout community now that the Blitz was based heavily on the Desoto Adventurer 2 concept car.
Also I know it was just a joke but the comment at 30:52 is peak car noob drivel. The guys who say that kind of stuff are always the kind of guys who can't speed shift a manual transmission to save their life and don't realize that a properly tuned automatic is superior at everything but roll starting which is why they are the top choice in the virtually all serious racing classes.
On the Cherry Bomb car, I'm pretty sure those arent headlights, but intakes, and the exhaust ports on the end. I'm also fairly certain its engine and propulsion system works like a scramjet, especially with how fast it goes.
Ever since i was a child i was a fan of the 50's designs of cars. Watching this again gives me great memories.
Love cars and retro futuristic cars are sick so I was excited to see to see this
The answer to the cherry bombs claim is simple. Thrust SST does not exist in the Fallout setting, since they clearly had issues with any kind of microprocessors and it seriously delayed many technological developments. Much like a certain Boston team refused any use of their trademarks to Bethesda, and never won a world series... they were set to sweep one once, but the 4th game, which they were a shoo-in to win, was scheduled for the afternoon of October 23, 2077
Fallout 76 also has added quite a few Cars, my personal favorite with both a fresh-ish & destroyed look is the Hot Rod on Blocks/Pegasus Weapons Workbench Car.
It’s official name is Unknown but it’s a welcome addition to the Car Variety in Fallout.
I would still like to play 76. Because I am a huge huge fan of in game. Fall out, lore and all the little quiet. Intricacies that tend to go unmissed by most people. But I just can't bring myself to play a game where online players can come in and harass me constantly. And destroy my base when I'm not there. I just can't do it. I'm too used to my fallout experience being single player. And it is frustrating because that means I'm missing out on all the 76th lore. 😕
@@marvingecko1232hey actually in 76 they have a really neat feature, anyone can attack you. However if you don’t fight back they can’t do Damage or destroy your CAMP.
You can even turn in Pacifist Mode so you’ll never accidentally hit anyone! It a multiplayer system I think should be more commonplace with how much better it makes the players experience.
@@Fehn_FennecAlso (atleast when I played) it was on by default
What’s crazy about the 1997 Thrust SSC car, is that the land speed record hasn’t been broken in my entire lifetime. 26 years later, it’s still the only car to break the sound barrier.
I understand that the worlds are smaller these days, but I wish we had some sort of vehicle to drive around and help us explore.
If not cars then at least a mount of some sort. I'd ride a Brahmin around haha.
Honestly, I think a motorcycle might be the way to go in the newer fallouts
@@redgrave5215 That would probably be the best option. Small, easier to maintain and store.
@@redgrave5215or an ATV
irs likely that the no electronic analog only claim was to ward away fears of nuclear EMP blasts disabling people's cars.
Id like to see you make a video, or series, speculating potential fallout games for each American state.. or at least most of them. Highlight noteworthy architecture, legends, wildlife, potential vault locations and hypothetical factions and their territories.
He does
The Corvega Blitz is actually based on 1954 Desoto adventurer II concept car.
Love how truly comprehensive these videos are! As a car guy, I love the real world design parallels brought up.
The shape of the nozzles at the front and back of the cherry bomb suggest that it could be jet powered.
I consider cars in Fallout to be ambush predators based on the time that I brushed up against one in Fallout 4 and the physics did a Bethany Esda and the car instantly killed my character in a single blow. (not a detonation, it just smashed my character really hard)
For how easily they explode keep in mind how long it's been since they've had any kind of maintenance
Well with the cherry bomb, it could be that it is the very first car to break the sound barrier. The divergence of the timeline happened sometime after ww2. So in the fallout universe things couldve gone completely differently. Look at the transistor in the fallout universe, there wasnt even the mention of one until 2000s.
It's always a great day when RadKing posts a new video!
I love the Atomic V-8, it's definitely my favorite looking car. Also those 0 to 60 times are wild 😂
imagine the g forces
In my opinion the best part in Fallout 2 was driving the Highwayman. WOW 🤩 I love it! I really hope Bethesda lets us drive a car in Fallout 5(with their new engine it may be possible). It would be fun to fully customize your car. It could be a little similar to that Mad Max game. Also that Nick Valentine poster is really cool. I love the blade runner reference(well the entire game has a lot of references to that movie lol 😂).
There’s a mod for Fallout 4 that gives you a Highwayman to fix and use as a fast travel device, it’s pretty neat
Absolutly AMAZING Video !!! ... #Respect i have actualy never seen a video about the cars in fallout with this much detail and i have been absorbing everything fallout related on youtube for years !!! ...
Finally, my old wish comes true, a better cars of fallout video. I just want to tell you that the Corvega Blitz Coupe is not inspired from
the oldsmobille golden rocket concept car, but from the 1954 DeSoto Adventure II, the Zip is inspired from the 1942 Oeuf Electrique, the Fallout 3 Corvega sedan is inspired (in my opinion) from the 1959 Soviet GAZ M13 Chaika or ZIL 111 or 1956 Packard Carribian (the car from wich GAZ and ZIL were inspired) and also Fallout 3's Corvega atomic V8's front in my opinion is inspired from a mid 50' cadillac and the rear from the GM LeSaber, but anyways the video is great, you really made a young boy happy and I can't wait for the part2 !!!🤩🤩🤩
The last unidentified convertible you showed really reminds me of the old post war Buicks
Great video, really like your stuff
I've always wanted to build working replicas of these cars.
The side profileof the station wagon looks a lot like a different Tatra models with the central fin in the back. Most likely Tatra T87
YES! another deep dive of the stuff in my favorite video games, A RadKing upload day is the best
If there’s one big reason why vehicles aren’t something the player can use actively in current fallout games, it would be due to the in game worlds not being quite big enough to make it necessary (76 is close, but can still be covered end to end by foot pretty easily).
Always love a Radking video in the morning
Dude I love your videos so much they are one of the few videos I will listen to while trying to fall asleep idk just the chill way you talk about my favorite series I love sm
I like many fans would love to see working cars in a Bethesda game but even though it's possible I doubt it seeing the state of most roads especially with their trend with east coast most likely not changing( the east coast places being more mountainous) places more in the west would be cool with big open spaces like Texas, New Mexico, Montana, and many many more we haven't seen but I highly doubt it
To be precise, Corvega Atomic V8 from fallout 4 looks closer to Buick XP-300, than Wildcat concept
The rear part is nearly identical
It's baffling that it never occurred to me that the abandoned cars in the game would still have fuel in their tanks and could be used as bombs.
I believe the deuce coupe is supposed to be a 1932 Ford coupe, its often referred to as a deuce coupe and also has a song written after It called Little deuce coupe
The "lights" on the Cherrybomb are definitely intake for the jets on the back. This thing breaks the sound barrier, it definitely has jet engines built into the side.
"All the cars in this town seem to be props anyway" - an unknown Postman from Paradise, Arisona.
I always like watching your videos. Keep it up man.
Great video! I also find the cars of Fallout fascinating, and feel many of your observations are spot on. I’ve never seen the side view of a Fusion 3, but after hearing it had a knock-off as an amusement park ride, I started to see the Davis 3 Wheeler in the redesign profile. The history of the Davis 3 Wheeler is similar to that of the Tucker, but one noteworthy observation is that Gary Davis, the 3 Wheeler inventor, went on to create the Dodge ‘Em bumper cars. Check it out in Wikipedia.
I believe "the sedan" is mostly based off the 1956 Packard patrician based off the headlights and rear fender chrome.
Yo RadKing, did you know Ford created a concept car in the 50s for a nuclear powered car? It was called the Ford Nucleon. It looks very similar to cars in fallout too. Check it out!
Fantastic video. Thank you for this!
Correction on the cop car: while it somewhat looks like a spotlight, it is in fact a mechanical siren of the late 50's and 60's
YES! ever since you started doing the remasters ive been hoping for a new car one
When I heard atomic V8, I was thinking of how this engine could have worked, since I thought of the name as being the engine. There is a technology called magnetic targeted fusion, which can use pistons to cause a fusion reaction, much like a prototype reactor in Canada. If we go with fission, there is fragment fission which if used as an engine for space travel, uses movement to use the fission reaction instead of the traditional way.
They should really let us utilise cars in some new way in 5, like using repair to send them barreling towards an enemy encampment, activating an alarm to start a wave defence battle, or turning it into a massive atomic landmine with the explosives skill/perk
The original video was great, can't wait to see the remaster.
You sir have earned my thumb. 👍
Always love a good radking video.
I remember driving some of these cars in forza motorsport 6’s fallout DLC. Pure speed and no handling.
28:21 That Car reminds a mix of a Ford Roadster 1932 and the rear maybe from a Bugatti Type 57, because of the way the column goes straight from the back to the top of the roof. Also, the other one at 28:28 reminds me of the 1925 Rolls Royce Phantom, mainly the wide fenders with the doors being "inside" and overall lines.
Even being a car guy, im not good with older cars, being better with something above 80s, but i tried my best to find some match
I swear RadKing has been one of the main reasons I have returned to Fallout, especially Fallout 4 and to do more Children of Atom quests
Hey Mr. King of the Rads, I'd love to see a dedicated video on the trains of fallout too!
Planes, Trains, and Automobiles!
Wow, I have hours upon hours in 76 and am almost level 300 yet I have NEVER seen that flying car. You truly do learn something new every day.
On 28:17 I think it’s based of the most expensive Duesenburg coupe which haves the pop up headlights and the leather roof which maybe have to be replaced when it get rained on
2:35 that’s funny, my grandpa said he used to have a Belvedere and that it was the ugliest car he’d ever seen but that wasn’t a problem cause you couldn’t see it from behind the wheel 😂 very shocked anyone would use a Belvedere for inspiration but beauty’s in the beholder I reckon
I went to a car show for the first time with my dad a couple years ago. There were loads of classic cars from all different eras, and one thing I noticed about the kind of cars that inspired the ones found in Fallout was how freaking HUGE they all were. Seriously, some of the regular sedans I saw there were as long and as wide as a camping trailer. At least the American cars were, which makes sense given how car-crazy American culture was becoming in those days. They were lovely looking vehicles nonetheless, but I would not want to drive one.
Must have been looking at the late 60s through the 70s vehicles at the show.
The 1950s cars were not that big in size, the 1960s saw an enlargement but still were modest in size, the 1970s is when the land yatchs came out and were huge.
My '78 Cougar XR7 midsize front bumper to rear bumper is right at 20 feet long. My '63 Belair fullsize bumper to bumper is 18 feet long. My '56 Fairlane fullsize bumper to bumper is 15 feet long.
This is why my '56 fits in the garage of my house built in '56 but my '63 won't fit and my '78 won't even let you partially close the garage door.
@@Milner62damn
I have been waiting for this! ❤❤❤
I'm so glad I get to see a radking video as soon as it's posted I didn't expect to refresh my page looking for a vid and Atoms glory shine upon me!
The lesabre Centre oval is it's main headlight, ita flips round to reveal the headlights
Y'know, considering how many people were tinkering with power armor throughout the series, I'm really surprised that nobody in canon decided to use the powerplant from the fusion-flea or zip to build some massive power/mech at some point. It could even just be the "wastelander" equivalent to military power armor, just as tough but bulkier and less efficient.
*bumps car in FO4*
Corvega: So you have chosen death?
how considerate of it to ask
I gotta say, out of all of the Fallout cars, the Atomic V8 is the finest. Also the idea of it being this big comfy family car that's powerful enough to tow campers (and probably other stuff) adds a real utilitarian value to the car as well. Bad ass looking!
You can drive the Cherry Bomb in Forza Motorsport 6 where it's called the Chryslus Rocket 69 and produces 1000 hp from an 'Atomic V8'.
Haven’t had much time to watch the new vids lol so today I can binge them ❤️
Wonderful! Atomic cars!
Epic video. Fantastic job.
As for the older cars, the ones seemingly from the 30's, you need to think of it in terms of what would still be working after EMP's. Those older cars would and likely had been in use for quite some time prior to the dweller exiting the vault. But, with them being older, the parts to keep them going properly would eventually run out as well whereas the newer ones such as the highway man would likely use at least similar enough comparable parts that they could be swapped out provided telhe cars hadn't been fried when the bombs dropped.
As far as bumpers, what about the bumper swords you see in New Vegas? They came off of cars or trucks and are a decent enough example of people scavenging things off useless cars. It's metal.
Also the cars you see in the walls, I wonder, would assume that they were also models that wouldn't explode or that those parts had been stripped.
I really like how they made a unique extremely high end vehicle to use in just 2 places in FO76. More variation in details is smth I really appreciate
If you think about the silhouette of the Corvega Sports Coupe on the TV. The rear kind of resembles that of the C1 Corvette, and even the tail lights look the same.
22:14 I've always thought the back and engine was based off of the 1957 ford nucleon.
Same with this car engine too 31:57
Emagine driving the highwayman then saying "Are you a gamma ray? Because you just made my Geiger counter go off the charts!" It was the smoothest ride in the Wasteland!
If the cherry bomb really is supersonic, they could be ramjets or whatever the fallout equivalent is
Gotta love the fallout vehicle designs, Makes me hope fallout resurgence gets cars and supportive areas
Thought I'd watch this when I noticed that the Fallout TV series apparently doesn't feature any of these unique cars.
Very nice Video. But you forgot to mention that pickup truck from fallout 4 that looks a bit like end 50s and early 60s chevy pickups but in fallout just with one seat and also nuclear powered.
"In weird shapes that would cause pedestrians to go under cars instead of over it"
*shows picture of car that would straight up act as a spear*
4-door Corvega Atomic V8 is one of the coolest car designs I've ever seen
Yeah, about the Cherry Bomb/Rocket 69, the Thrust SSC is not a car, so Chryslus' claim is correct. Also, its thin tyres remind me of speed-record wheels made almost entirely of aluminium. Those chrome bits with the headlights and taillights make me think of a nuclear motorjet, a jet whose intake is driven by an engine, in thise case the "Atomic V8" that Chryslus was so proud of, and the bulk of all its thrust comes from dumping the heat the fusion cells generate into the incoming airstream to superheat it and drive it out the two exhaust/taillights as thrust. So that would be why it can reach such speeds, and if it crouches down at speed to keep itself grounded with mostly solid large thin wheels then the vehicle is like a knife cutting through the air, with the only areas that drag could be a problem being covered by the intakes sucking in so much air that there's a vacuum in front of the intakes, and the car crouching to reduce the wheels' drag.
Ah yes the Rocket 69, it made a cameo appearance in Forza Motorsport 6 as a DLC vehicle that you could drive and use in racing. In the Fallout universe it was known as the Cherry Bomb as described in the video.
15:06 fun fact this Dragster cars are very stressful on the engine so much so that they must be replaced and rebuilt completely after 3 or so races
I believe the Cherry Bomb’s front cones are intakes and the little nobs are the headlights, leading credence to its whole “first car to break the sound barrier” phrase.
Could you imagine a fallout game with working vehicle's, would be fun running over everything
use mods
The "spotlight" on the cop car is actually the siren. Most 40s and 50s patrol cars had their siren horns mounted up front.