Canon C100 Mark II in 2022 - Is it still good?
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Cameras are improving quick. So how does a 9 year old camera hold up in todays market? Also I share a quick coloring secret at the end.
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I have 3 C100mkii's, all bought second hand, and use them for artist interviews, coverage of art events, coverage of music events (opera, big band, orchestra, soloists and more)...I love the ease of use, reliability, battery life, XLR inputs with good pre-amps and picture quality...file sizes are low for the quality of image produced which makes it good for longer event shooting too...my 3 don't match exactly for colour but are not way out so I have a basic preset (I mostly shoot in WDR) that gets them close...I edit with each camera on a different track so I put the basic preset on the first clip of each track and then can fine tune them to match in that clip and easily copy & paste to the rest of the clips on each track
You can get around the center auto focus issue with auto lock...just get the focus in the centre and then press auto lock and you can move side to side and it will lock in the focus. Also there is a 709 lut in camera which is better than view assist. go to settings>Video settings>HDMI>lut>rec 709. the lut will display on a HDMI monitor
Just shot my first wedding with my c100 mark 2 this past weekend. I was nervous at first to go completely handheld during ceremony instead of using my eos R6 on a gimbal but I'm so happy I pushed myself to trust this cameras capabilities to perform. I'm shocked at how this camera can produce ultra sharp footages partnered up with sigma 18-35mm its a dream!
Do you have any footage on the wedding you shot I would love to see it
@@Official_JC_Torres Same here!
Please can I still purchase this camera in 2024 as I shoot events, music Videos, short films, and even social media contents as in reels
Actually picking up my 2nd c100 mark II for my corporate work. When I need slowmo b-roll or gimbal work I bust out the 90d. For now I’m personally sticking to 1080 as it’s the most needed in my current market here. However plan to start adding on new cinema cameras by the end of this year and probably begin phasing out the 1080 kits. No rush though. Great vid and thanks!
I use a c100 ii and an R6. I have had good luck with the Tyler Stahlman clog LUTs for converting my footage into rec709. Also, my c100 tends to have a touch of green tint, I pull a tiny bit of green out of the midtones. That with the clog LUT gets me a great image. Most of my work is indoors with a controlled lighting setup.
I bought it and got it 2 days ago and I through a sigma 18-35 mm and I was shocked on how it looked right out of the camera and the shot looked amazing. I own a lot of cameras from the 90D all the way to the GH5 mark 2 but never owned a cinema camera and for this being as old as it is I can see myself using this for years to come. I love this camera very easy setup to understand.
Hello
I recently purchased a C100 MKII September 2022. I agree with you, it’s an awesome camera. I also enjoy the facial lock autofocus for the STM lenses. How has it been going with your C100?
I also record externally to an Atomos Monitor. It’s a good backup for footage and I believe is 4.2.2 but still 8 bit.
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I have the GH5 mark 2 as well. Do you think the C100 mark 2 is worth it if you already have the Gh5?
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I would probably say the C200 or C70 would be better buys opposed to the C100s. The GH5 would probably be a better fit with the C200 or C70. I’m still pretty much a bum in videography so the C100 MKII serves me well. It just gets the job done with my newbie skill set.
@@lb7144Ok, is that because of the 4k options? My only reservation with the C200 is having to Cfast. I prefer SD like the c100, but you're right, the c200 has a lot more features
We use a C100 mkii and 2 x BMPCC4K's in my studio. We have people come through with Red's, Arri's, Sony's, BM Ursa's, etc. I'll still take 1080 out of the C100 95% of the time. Not only is quality absolutely dead on PERFECT (if you like an image that has more vibey film quality than pixel perfect sterile) but the file sizes are TINY and super easy to work with.
If Canon released a C100 mk3 that was able to use the full 4k sensor (yes, this cam has a 4k sensor that downsamples to 1080) so you get a 4k option, and just added a few modern features and modern firmware, it'd be a massive hit! The R5C looks like it could do the job, but the Canon cripple hammer makes it tough to justify.
The Fuji XH2 might be the next best thing. Fuji are the only other cams I've seen with color science that is on par with the C100. Unfortunately their AF isn't great and a few other things need improving. If the XH2 knocks it out of the park, we may go that route. But I don't think we'll ever sell our C100. It's a damn near perfect camera for video!
At the end of the day, it is all about the imagery. IF it still rocks, it's still awesome
First time c100 mark 2 user up here can't wait to use this camera for my upcoming weddings! Great video review!
Bought this bad boy last month, I'm quite taken how good a 2014 camera can still be this good in 2022, mind you I have a Canon 5D Mark Iv that i shoot Videos with time to time and thought the quality is proper till I got my hands on a c100 mark ii and I'm blown away especially that I pair it with Atomos Ninja V, I'm new to C-Log but I like it and I've decided to upgrade the 5D Mark Iv to C-Log also, will then see once is installed on how the graded footage will look like!
Thanks for the review! I just go mine few weeks ago and it is just awesome. With this workhouse I've to learn how to play without the autofocus, learn how to expose properly. I think it is the best camera to learn quick and fast how everything works in the cinema/video industry. I still have a 90D which is pleasant for most of the work. However I still think that it is important to learn the basics and this beauty is great for that. Thank you very much for your video! Cons and pros have just to be taken in account as you said. ;)
I'm still using mine! Still working flawlessly.
the colours of your C100s not matching might be something related to black balance, i'm assuming you already tried that but if you didn't, maybe do a quick ABB on both cams :)
loved the ergonomics when i shot this camera as my day job but the 8bit really shows sometimes when you messed up WB and try to fix it in post. it really does force you to do a WB every now and then (as you should).
something worth mentioning as well is how decent the c100II handles high ISO, i found that even 3200 was still usable, can't say that about a lot of cams from that era.
and the BATTERY LIFE! oh my god, all you need for a day of shooting is 2 batteries and 2 SD cards! so good. if only the c70 was housed in that c100 body, i'd marry that thing today.
Haha agreed! Yes I did try ABB. Thanks for the tip though.
Nice pros and cons - As a C100 M2 owner I agree with all your points. Biggest peeve -I hate that the focus point can't be moved! - that would be a big plus if you could. Not a big fan of Clog (prefer wide DR) Definitely not a gimbal cam! This camera is great for long events with it's good image quality and battery life. Workhorse camera but unfortunately showing it's age.
Great video man, super chill and informative
THANK YOU FOR THE COLOR GRADING TIP! I had no idea premiere actually has a good built-in color adjustment for clog. I've been shooting wideDR because it's easier for me to grade with an s-curve, but I'm going to try shooting clog next time with this color grading tip. Thanks again sir.
Thanks for this. You can use the Canon 35mm f2.8 prime STM with the Mkii’s face detect. Very sharp lens. It won’t transform 2014 AF to match today’s Sony AF, but will allow you to get off center at a great focal length for interviews and other uses that don’t have fast movement. Just be aware it can take a few seconds to lock on to a face that moves into frame after being focused on a background, then it locks on the face pretty good.
Lenses that support face detection AF: - EF 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM - EF-S 55-250mm F4-5.6 IS STM * - EF-S 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM * - EF-S 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM * - EF-S 10-18mm F4.5-5.6 IS STM *
-EF-S 35mm F2.8 STM Micro Prime
@@lb7144 LB, good to see you out and about in the comments,,,Roger
Don't overlook the MKI. With the dual pixel autofocus upgrade it is a really great deal and the image produced is the same.
I still use 3 of these cameras for multicam recordings ant live streams, ant tv production. These cameras are workhorses. They have oled screen, witch is good in cold conditions, and viewfinder image is crap, so i use it ony for framing in bright sun.
0:56 Wow, 2014 was the year when Sony AX100 first serious 4K prosumer camera was released. I've just bought one me myself, because of the great price. I love these ancient cameras like your C100. 3:31 That tilting EVF is awesome, it's a shame that mirrorless cameras don't implement tilting EVFs, only a couple have that feature, while all video cameras have tilting EVFs except the C70 and FX3 which has no EVF at all. 3:55 Oh, what happened? Your focus was off for a couple of seconds. 4:23 amazing so low bitrates still good HD image, I love it. Sony XAVC-S is 50-bit and it generate huge files, XAVC-S 100Mbps 4K is double the size, I hate those sizes. The other day I made a 20 minute 4K family-movie and the final size was 15G, I hate it. 5:59 Hmm, it doesn't have face recognition/tracking?
The Buttery LUTs master collection has some LUTs for C-Log 1 and 3 that work pretty well with C100 log footage.
People use phones to watch videos these days. C100 at 1080p is more than enough lol. I want one. I wanna upgrade my whole setup. I am using an EOS-M with Magic Lantern Crop Mood now. It is awesome also and can do well beyond what the C100 can do BUT the C100 is stable and can be my "Clark Kent" A cam hahaha. I can also downres vids to 1080 with it. BTW that is a sweeet tripod what kind is it?
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very helpful. I really enjoyed watching this. Thanks for putting it together.
just pick one up for $1000 im doing for retreats and conferences need a long battery and cinema camera features. I plan to get c200 soon and then c70
Doesn't the C100 Mark II have face detection? That would solve one your "cons" on why faces have to be "in the middle" to stay in focus--wouldn't it?
Yes, it certainly is.
Lenses that support face detection AF: - EF 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM - EF-S 55-250mm F4-5.6 IS STM * - EF-S 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM * - EF-S 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM * - EF-S 10-18mm F4.5-5.6 IS STM *
-EF-S 35mm f2.8 IS STM Macro Prime
I bought this camera and my a6500 blows it out of the water . Even the 1080p is of a higher quality than this camera , I bought it to shoot music videos . I thought I was doing something wrong so I typed in music videos filmed with the c100 then I typed in music videos filmed with the a6500 and all the a6500 music videos blew the c100 music out of the water and I watch the videos from the same time period. This camera is a bust 😐
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The Sony is a more than solid camera with some good tech behind it 🤔
@@lb7144 I wish the c100 had better resolution because it looks and feel solid and when people see it they act asif I got something that could film a blockbuster film with .
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I believe the C70 or C200 are better cameras. Both are 4k with the C70 still receiving firmware support from Canon. You’re right about the music video’s filled with the Sony - they look amazing.
love my C100 Mark II
Amazing video really helpful
Great video! I still use my c100 mk2
I just wanted to point out that the top and side handle come as standard with the camera, theres no option to not get them.
You're correct when buying new. I believe I was looking at prices of used options as well and some of those did not include handles. Thanks for having my back though!
i remember when my employer ordered our c100II, there was an option to get it w/o the handles.
Hi, i bought a C100 markii last month and i'm quite happy, but as you said, the C-log doesn't match my Eos R's C-log. The easiest way i find to get the same color is to shoot Wide DR on the c100 and C-Log neutral on the Eos R, but other than that, it's such a nice camera with small files size.
It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing that. Thanks for the tip!
Do you notice black flickering lines when using WDR in low light? Like if you just leave your lens cap on and switch to WDR you’ll see the flickering on the screen. It shows up in your footage between IS0 850-1600.
I've heard battery life is awesome on the C100s... is there any truth to this?
there are larger and smaller batteries. The Canon brand ones last the longest. But overall, yes, battery life is pretty decent.
how do you colour grade ?? please make a vdeo of workflow for this 8bit footage
Thanks for this vid
I guess C100 with 1080p still GREAT to use.
What kinda CPU-RAM-GRAPHIC card do need to process C100 footages ?? Thanks bud.
The files are very easy to work with. Any modern computer will have no trouble with it.
it's 2024 and I still film with this.
2024 calling. You don't mention lenses... a massive pro is the low cost and excellent availability of high quality EF mount lenses. R mount lenses are taking over which has a knock down effect on the prices of EF and EF-S glass. You can get a pro grade f2.8 or f4 L IS image stabilisation canon zoom for less than 300eurobucks.😮
That's a good point.
This is awesome.
I'd be interested in a video on c100 and ronin gimbals. Which ronin? Is S or RS, M ok? Mounting looks tricky
I have tried it with my Ronin S. It can do it with a small lens but is very tricky and not advised. We did regularly use this with the Ronin M though. But then it becomes cumbersome. We ended up just using the EOS R on the Ronin S since it was faster and lighter.
@@IndieFilmHub i have bought some IS lenses. Gonna initially test handle holding the c100 with a wide-ish lens using the IS
What picture profile do you mostly use?
I primarily shoot in c-log. I have my color presets so I'm not worried about quick turnarounds.
@@IndieFilmHub thanks for the info and for responding.
Is the Auto Focus good enough for action sports ??
I would say no, simply due to the small area of focus.
How does the C100 compare to video cameras made in the past couple years ? That's the question I expected to be answered here.
I think the fs7 is better l0l I pulled the wrong plug
I am seriously going to buy one in 2023…
I use one with Atomos Blade for ProRes. Much better quality
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Did you shoot this video with the C100 MK2?
The test shots yes. The rest was shot on my sony
Greetings, great video, one question. I'm new to this cam and can't seem to find the answer to the which format should i use Mp4 vs Avchd? I always get the standard answer:for sound use the avchd, if not use Mp4. or everyone seems to have a different answers, never use avchd or always use avchd or vice versa for mp4. i'm using it for interviews @ 23.98fps. So my question is what do you use, why and what is the BEST looking video output, mp4 or avchd? I know the MP4 audio is compressed so I can always use an external recorder but if I dont have to would be great. thanks you for your time- Brian
I always use MP4. The main thing that will affect your audio is mic quality and mic placement, not the codec. MP4 is also an easier file to manage. As for picture quality, I doubt you can really tell a difference and neither can the clients. Everyone has always been happy with the quality of the video I provide. I mostly worry about good lighting and good audio.
@@IndieFilmHub thank you so much, one last thing for picture quality not being to tell the difference do you mean the Mp4 is slightly less quality? the reason I ask is I heard the Mp4 is slightly better video quality but it appears in the menu that they are both using the same mbps unless you shoot 60fps? oh and apparently the mp4 is compressed audio and avchd is uncompressed?
@@Refusetowalktheline You are right about the audio compression. The video is all 4:2:0 8bit, unless you record externally (and get 4:2:2). The container (AVCHD vs MP4) may change the way it compresses slightly, but I don't see a difference, and I don't know the nitty gritty on each container file. I do know MP4 is more widely accepted.
@@IndieFilmHub thanks for the info!
@@Refusetowalktheline if I recall right canon said the main reason for mp4 was to do slow-motion. Other then that both are similar in quality
What is the name and model of your tripod? Not showing on my screen.
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what lens is that ?
Tamron 35mm
can you apply LUTS to this camera as well?
Luts can be used in post production or viewed while shooting on an external monitor. It does have a visual assist built in for something close to rec.709 but you cannot load your own luts into the camera. At least that I know of.
@@IndieFilmHub Actually, You can load a lut into the C100 M2... Visit Owl Bot here on CZcams. Kenny has the Owl Bot color Lut and shows you how to load it into the C100 M2 and choose it from the CP menu... I have 3 - C100 M2's. They all are loaded with 3 luts I use depending on my shoot. I'm recording 7 hours at a time on each camera... in MP4. When shooting that long, make sure your fan is either on low or high, not automatic. I gage that by the temp I'm shooting in. (low up to 79 degrees and high is above 80 degrees) I use face track AF for my speakers that walk the stage a bit. The tracking is great, I never loose focus (camera is fixed and stage is spiked for on/off camera limits) Just use one of the Canon AF lenses that work with the C100 M2's AF. (EF-S 18-135 USM w PTZ zoom - 24-105 L - 18-80 Cine Servo Zoom - 24-70 L - 70-200 L and a few others. Look at the online manual for description. You might need to run the 2nd firmware update to get all the controls to play nice with the Cine Lenses)
This camera also does great splitting the audio from an ambient room mic and audio piped in from my rack mixer to blend the live audience with mixed audio. All of this AND I live stream off of one cam to Zoom and record Pro Rez 10 bit 4:2:2 from my ATMOS Blade on the other for corporate to use. Cant beat this setup for corporate gigs and small docs. All 3 of my setups combined cost less then 1 - C70 bare. What to pair this with for a gimbal, stills and some B-Roll? I'm actually looking at the R7... Shoots Clog 3. (very close to the C100's CP7) 120 FPS works with all my EF-S glass and Legacy glass (L-glass) Super lite with good battery life, dual SD cards, 10 bit 4:2:2 AND unlimited shooting time for $1,400.00... (Actually the C100 M2 has an EF-S mode) Some of my other locations bark at the C100 M2 until we shoot outside and they're fumbling with ND's and glass and I'm already setup and shooting with my C100 M2... LOL... Can't beat the built in ND's!
Cheers for now!
Hey question regarding punching into C100mkii to do fake close up. Is the 1080p usable ?
I would say yes up to about 15-20%.
@@IndieFilmHub thank you I want this camera for many reasons the main reason is as much as I love my a7siii and a7iii !!! Rigging and set-up is a pain in the ass. I sold my c100 for $1000 and I’m really thinking about the Canon c100 Mkii. Just because of the ease and no client at least on my level is asking for 4K. Last question have you used 18-135mm with continuous face detection?
For rigging my a7siii, I got the Kondor Blue rig and that has been amazing. I have used the 24-105 but not the 18-135. However, face detection only works with EF-S (crop body) lenses, and is still mostly only in the middle.
@@IndieFilmHub hey so with the kondor Blue heard since only one screw supports at the quick release? And the camera it gets shaky is that true ?
There is a little flex on the main cage part, but that is because I chose not to use the locking screws that go through the eyelets on each side of the camera. With those in it is super sturdy. But even without them, my rig has no problems unless I try to flex it.
Cant you upsample to 4k? No one would even notice and when did it come out??😂😂
I have done this a few times.
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It looks like an iphone ... so bad
Can you explain?