I still love my 2011 Saab 9-5. Still looks modern and it’s been very reliable (bought it with about 20,000 miles and now have 120k). It’s a bit too much car since I have no kids but I’ve always wanted one since I was young.
I'd love to eventually get my hands on one of these. I mean, I'm a fan of all Saabs (pre+post GM) but this car just looks amazing and they're "rare" enough to seem special, imo.
These final year 9-5´s were really handsome cars, with great proportions and upscale trimmings. I regret not seeing new Saabs gracing our roads. They have so much presence.
Yep your right there John Davis. The end of the Saab story. I actually saw one of these on the road today. Such an unusual beautiful sight. I would love to have one since it’s mostly GM drivetrain. I think the Chevy dealer will still service them.
Joes Golden Garage the Saab 2.8T was very old fashion and only matched the 295 lb-ft of torque of the 2.0T with direct injection and variable valve timing with the tech. We considered a 9-5 Aero 2 8T but for $10,000 more with a warranty the CX- Cadillac XTS 3.6TT with 410 horsepower and a similar Haldex4 AWD qas a better deal including safety aids like adaptive cruise....
There is a rumor that SAAB technologies (not NEVS), the company the builds the SAAB 39 Gripen fighter is going to make a there own car using technology from the flight industry. Just hope this is true...
Melvin Kroonen Yeah ?, it us called a Buick. Buick is beating Toyota in quality of mass produced cars. It offers German assembled TourX wagon and plenty of crisco era to choose from
I am a huge fan of this car...33mpg from a 5 series size car is excellent! Plus I love the manual option. You can always change the interior trim from that gaudy wood anyway, and the lighter color interior helps brighten things up a lot! My hope is that Saab survives to offer the SportCombi Wagon, which looks absolutely gorgeous and comes with the Turbo4 paired with AWD...sounds like perfection to me.
Beautiful car. I was putting fuel in its platform mate, my Buick LaCrosse recently, and a kid came driving up in a 9-5. All banged up; tape holding the front corner of the bumper to the fender, missing its shark fin on the roof, etc. I wanted to cry.
Honest review, seems none of the reviews these days talking about most important things - reliability and safty. and saab would be a leader in mid class. I have 9-3 2008 200miles on the clock the only visits to garage are change oil, tyres, bulbs and filters for the last 5 years. Go Saab Go!
@bigphat200 - I thought I wanted one too, until I actually bought one and had to deal with the insane cost of parts every time something relatively minor broke. Two of the best days of my life where 1) when I bought a Saab, and 2) when I traded it in for a Mazda. My Saab itch has been scratched, for good.
mraurora it wasn’t GM... It was US. No one bought them anymore, SAAB did this to themselves, they changed so much the car ended up being 3 inches LONGER
Man, I owned a 1999 9⁵ aero wagon and out of the 20+ cars I've owned, that was my number one favorite. Was such a gem too, 6spd manual, bbs RK6 wheels, hella cargo space, and the interior quality was actually really good. It wasn't the fastest for its time, I mean my current daily GT Sport hatch has a 1.6t & 7spd DCT and it's even a hair quicker, but it felt refined, buttoned, handled great, and was just overall a peak late 90s/ early 2000s sportwagon. I reaaaally wish Saab could have continued on. Although GM was destroying them even further, the design language of the NG Saabs was great imo, ahead of its time forsure, but unfortunately the bankruptcy era GM cost cutting & over-engineering realllly hurt them. One of my other cars is an 2011 Malibu LTZ 3.6V6, and although this Saab got slightly better interior quality, this era GM quality is horrible, and they were right, for 2011 GM was behind in so many ways. That Malibu recently hit 80k miles and the interior is falling apart. But still, man I'd love an NG 9⁵ forsure as a backup daily.
I had a 2004 Saab 9-5 which I loved. I went to the Boston Auto show in 2011 to see this new version of the 9-5 and loved the exterior but the interior was very disappointing. It didn't have the upscale feel of even my 2004 9-5. Just cheaper GM switch gear. Very disappointed GM killed off Saab.
No Saab buyer would buy a BMW instead and vice versa. It's really a Saab thing, you gotta own and drive one to understand. Once you're hooked, there's no getting out.
Yeah it's a shame they didn't make their own engines for the NG9-3 and NG9-5. But BioPower means it can run on both gasoline and ethanol. The hardware has been capable of this for at least 10 years, but it wan't offered on new cars until 05. Though, there are 3rd party software updates available to get BioPower functionality in older cars.
It's unfortunate that Saab really had to rush this car into production and cut back on interior quality spending. I've seen that fake wood in person...it's really bad :( I love seeing them on the road though. It's hard to believe it's a 10 year old car because the styling seems to fresh and current.
I remember 20 years before this car, MW tested a 1991 Saab 9000 turbo. John said then that it is hard to spend over 30 grand for a 4cyl car. That is still the case today. Most cars are equipped with I-4 turbo's. What ever happened to cars with V6's? My V-6 Impala gets better gas mileage than most 4cyl turbos.
I had a 1989 SAAB made by SAAB Auto and I have a 2001 SAAB made by GM. To say that GM madw Saab 'more reliable' is laughable. What they did was to junk it up. The '89 would have lasted forever, the '01 costs me $1000 every other month. Still, the turn radius beats out a BMW or AUDI every time, and that makes my car a lot of fun to drive. I hope the company that buys SAAB loves the brand's uniqueness and invests to keep it competitive.
I really dont like how he keeps saying how improved saab id with this car.I have owned 3 saabs and can only say that there is something special about all of them.Its the purity of the older saabs that make them great.Why change the design to this big and bulky design? is
ppl are missing the point of this car. Just because it doesn't follow the layout of what a normal person would consider acceptable when purchasing a auto. Sometimes that is what makes it better. Not being Normal.Yea, a Ford Taurus will blow the doors off this car. and The Hyundai Geneses look like the deal of the century next to it, but i always get this chill when i see a Saab on the Road. I so want one.
The good thing about current recession is that it is like a drought in Savana - only the fittest will survive. And clearly with that interior and lack of innovation Saab will not be amongs the shortlist of survivors as well as Volvo and some US manufacturers
I miss Saab too, but please we have to get Saab down to a decent everyday working person's price we are the ones who really loves SAAB's it's not the rich and famous wealthiest people. I think that's what they got wrong. not GM
@johnnyr25 Compared to the M series, the Saab is much better looking in my opinion, plus it doesn't offer a wagon option like Saab will. Agreed the Sonata is much better value, but then again it is still a Camry/Accord competitor...whereas the Saab has a manual/AWD option which Hyundai never offers in sedans.
@bmwmsport11 GM is good when you aren't talking about the American brands. The Ecotec engine, after all, isn't an American design or development. It's a good engine.
Marius Maudal what's your point?. I've owned more Saab's than you most definitely , are you soon going to tell me that Buick is an Opel? Which I already know. Or how about the 9-2x which is a Subaru. Or maybe the sky Is blue? And grass is green? How about the earth? Which is round....hmm how about an old 900s? Triumph engine reversed and engineered by Saab. I don't know what's your point your telling me everything I already know
Cristian Seibriger The GM underpinnings like the Epsilon frame and Haldex4 AWD with torque vectoring was as good as they come back the and very reliable. Under GM Saab had it's best sales year in 2003 with 9-3.
@@normt5463 But overall the car became considerably less reliable with GM. Everyone that owns saab can affirm that. They had a lot of problems with electronics and other issues. Gm has not been known been known for making reliable cars simce the early 90s
@@normt5463 Saab had even much better sales with the saab 900 in the 80s especially with the turbo models so it doesn't prove anything if saab had good sales in 2003 LOL. Furthermore since yoy mentioned the 9-3 , i can also remind you how cheap the interior became with the introduction of the new 2003 9-3 it was cheap as hell, cheap plastic everywhere that would break easily, the engine that gm put was not as reliable nor as tough as the good old T5 engines that saab used to make. The car had also a lot of problems with electronics. So bitch please 😂 it's a well known fact that gm just drove saab to the bottom with their shitty quality. It's good saab weren't listening to them everytime that's why they were still decent cars otherwise the would've been terrible shitty cars.
@@christrahi16 GM owned half of Saab from 1990 on. We had 5 Saab 9-5's in sedans and wagons. Never had a electrical issue unless you are talking DI cassette. We still have a 2004 9-5 Arc wagon that needs a brake distribution module rebuilt. But those are all Saab specific issues.
@@normt5463 Yeah saabs weren't unreliable under gm but my point is that they became less reliable. Gm was only interested in fast money so they wanted saabs to make their cars cheaper and cheaper, that is why they began in cost reductions and with every year from 1997 for the 9-5 they started removing features and trying to make parts cheaper and many parts were in plastic. There is a part that is responsible for the shifting gear that was made in plastic and made the shifter feels mushy quite fast among other examples. Yes i meant the diy cassette when i saod electrical issues but an also known problem was the ac system. I have two 9-3 and in both of them it is not functioning peoperly. In my 9-5 it has been renovated. I love saabs but i think that if they have been alone they would have manufactured their csrs in a higher quality and higher engineering.
Whoever thinks gm makes crap is mistaken. You are buying cars from shit owners or you yourself is the shit driver. Park avenues have a 3800 v6 in a 5000lb car and will easily out last a Honda in distance travelled. It also can achieve 33mpg. Saabs are also great regardless if it was a Saab or a gm. If you haven't owned a Saab, you have no room to judge, they are solid, long lasting vehicles that stand the face of time. A 95 Saab feels more like a 2005. The steering is solid, the motor is
If SAAB comes back, THANK GOD that GM will be out of it...these new SAABs, while looking OK, are blahhh...What happened to the good old 9-5 Aero with the beautiful 2.3 turbo?? My favorite was the 2nd gen 9000 Aero 5spd -- these had soul, looks, quality, and quirk. BRING BACK THE QUIRK!
Unfortunatly that was thier problem, to expensive and they were known to have alot of problems which cost even more. Had the cars been cheaper they would have sold more, ALOT more. but now unfortunatly they are dead. I will still only drive a saab though.
"to many of the shelf GM components" But why? What where they thinking of? And a lazy "turbo v6" with not more than 300hp? I even think the old 9000Aero bets the V6 on the high way...
One of the best looking Saab’s ever made, the interior is stunning, the fake wood doesn’t even bother me, it’s pure elegance
Oooooopp
Interiors look great, but unfortunately the GM Bankruptcy era quality is so bad. Such a shame
I found the old 99 better looking.
I totally agree! I really like that this one has a manual transmission!
I miss Saab... please, someone restart this brand!
I still love my 2011 Saab 9-5. Still looks modern and it’s been very reliable (bought it with about 20,000 miles and now have 120k). It’s a bit too much car since I have no kids but I’ve always wanted one since I was young.
You’re so lucky I can’t wait to find one on sale I can’t wait to get one
I'd love to eventually get my hands on one of these. I mean, I'm a fan of all Saabs (pre+post GM) but this car just looks amazing and they're "rare" enough to seem special, imo.
These final year 9-5´s were really handsome cars, with great proportions and upscale trimmings. I regret not seeing new Saabs gracing our roads. They have so much presence.
Yep your right there John Davis. The end of the Saab story. I actually saw one of these on the road today. Such an unusual beautiful sight. I would love to have one since it’s mostly GM drivetrain. I think the Chevy dealer will still service them.
Joes Golden Garage the Saab 2.8T was very old fashion and only matched the 295 lb-ft of torque of the 2.0T with direct injection and variable valve timing with the tech.
We considered a 9-5 Aero 2 8T but for $10,000 more with a warranty the CX- Cadillac XTS 3.6TT with 410 horsepower and a similar Haldex4 AWD qas a better deal including safety aids like adaptive cruise....
did he just say that GM improved reliability in Saabs? I'm dying over here
Hahaha true man, i am amazed at how ignorant car reviewers can be 😂
I mean they made a good car while GM was taking over. Got to give them some credit.
image yourself a Saab that is made today by Saab itself
There is a rumor that SAAB technologies (not NEVS), the company the builds the SAAB 39 Gripen fighter is going to make a there own car using technology from the flight industry. Just hope this is true...
siemenstraffic huh...a rebirth...just like the phoenix on their emblem...
Melvin Kroonen Yeah ?, it us called a Buick. Buick is beating Toyota in quality of mass produced cars. It offers German assembled TourX wagon and plenty of crisco era to choose from
@@siemenstraffic I haven't seen any evidence of that to date
@@jp_0118 It is a Griffen, not a Phoenix.
I have an '07 9-3, but this car is outrageous, I love it
monsterzzz07 I have an ‘08 9-3, 2.0T. I love it
Great choice on the 9-3! Loved my 2007 so much that I went out and got a 2005 aero convertible and a 2009 with xwd as well!
I am a huge fan of this car...33mpg from a 5 series size car is excellent! Plus I love the manual option. You can always change the interior trim from that gaudy wood anyway, and the lighter color interior helps brighten things up a lot!
My hope is that Saab survives to offer the SportCombi Wagon, which looks absolutely gorgeous and comes with the Turbo4 paired with AWD...sounds like perfection to me.
i wish it did my friend
You know! That still one good looking car! Even today stiil looks good!😎👍
Beautiful car. I was putting fuel in its platform mate, my Buick LaCrosse recently, and a kid came driving up in a 9-5. All banged up; tape holding the front corner of the bumper to the fender, missing its shark fin on the roof, etc. I wanted to cry.
Saying saab became more reliable with Gm is a joke 🤦🤦
Hahahah😂😂😂
Yes
And better loking?? What. Does he even know the saab 99 or 900???
IN UNITED STATES IS MORE BETTER GMC THAN SAAB. BUT IN EUROPE. SAAB IS GOOD BUT GMC ARE A SHIT 😆 NOBODY WANT TO GET GMC.
Honest review, seems none of the reviews these days talking about most important things - reliability and safty. and saab would be a leader in mid class. I have 9-3 2008 200miles on the clock the only visits to garage are change oil, tyres, bulbs and filters for the last 5 years. Go Saab Go!
I wish these weren’t so rare to begin with - let alone an Aero - because I really want an Aero lol.
OMG I do miss SAAB, still such a stunning looking, handsome sedan today. Very special, and that is so rare in 2024.
Thank's alot GeneralMotors!
I love Saab
Agree my 9k Areo did 320k km till now and has still 258 whp.
@bigphat200 - I thought I wanted one too, until I actually bought one and had to deal with the insane cost of parts every time something relatively minor broke. Two of the best days of my life where 1) when I bought a Saab, and 2) when I traded it in for a Mazda. My Saab itch has been scratched, for good.
"More reliable and better looking"
Ha ha ha... is the funniest thing I're heard in a long time.
Now that Saab is gone, the German car companies, BMW, Mercedes, and Audi, will have less pressure to hold their already bloated prices down.
I think the Saab 9-5 looks aged really well would actually look new today in 2022. Just needs an interior update
Hey you. The fake wood thats a american thing not a swedish thing, gm could not pay for the real wood that why they did the plastic wood.
true but the 99 had the even worse fake wood hahahaha
The fastest SAAB to date is an RBS15 mk3 that has a 200km+ range with Advanced ECCM and unrivalled sea-skimming capability.
🤣👍
Guess what? No happy ending 😭😭😭😭
Cant wait for the new 9-3 to start rolling of the assembly line later this year... yaaay and about time!
Go Saab!!!
I started off with a 2001 9-5 2.3t 5MT, then had a 1997 900 S 2.3 N/A, and love my 2008 9-3 2.0T SS.
FantasticMrFolf I've had 4 9-5's since 2000 and currently only have a 2004 9-5 Arc wagon with JZW stg 4 tune.
GM pissed me off when they killed Oldsmobile. Then this. Shame.
mraurora I am more pissed when gm killed Pontiac
true, pontiac G8 was the pinnacle of american cars
mraurora Now Buick has risen to cover both of them and is besting Toyota in reliability.
Tay TYLERIENMAM Station Pontiac ran them selves bankrupt, GM had nothing to do
With it
mraurora it wasn’t GM... It was US. No one bought them anymore, SAAB did this to themselves, they changed so much the car ended up being 3 inches LONGER
Just saw a base model a few minutes. Still looks stately.
Damn. A manual transmission NG Saab 9-5. That's pretty rare compared to the automatic transmission NG 9-5s
Man, I owned a 1999 9⁵ aero wagon and out of the 20+ cars I've owned, that was my number one favorite. Was such a gem too, 6spd manual, bbs RK6 wheels, hella cargo space, and the interior quality was actually really good. It wasn't the fastest for its time, I mean my current daily GT Sport hatch has a 1.6t & 7spd DCT and it's even a hair quicker, but it felt refined, buttoned, handled great, and was just overall a peak late 90s/ early 2000s sportwagon. I reaaaally wish Saab could have continued on. Although GM was destroying them even further, the design language of the NG Saabs was great imo, ahead of its time forsure, but unfortunately the bankruptcy era GM cost cutting & over-engineering realllly hurt them. One of my other cars is an 2011 Malibu LTZ 3.6V6, and although this Saab got slightly better interior quality, this era GM quality is horrible, and they were right, for 2011 GM was behind in so many ways. That Malibu recently hit 80k miles and the interior is falling apart. But still, man I'd love an NG 9⁵ forsure as a backup daily.
Отличный авто! Хочу такой.
RIP Saab .. u lasted more than many others
I had a 2004 Saab 9-5 which I loved. I went to the Boston Auto show in 2011 to see this new version of the 9-5 and loved the exterior but the interior was very disappointing. It didn't have the upscale feel of even my 2004 9-5. Just cheaper GM switch gear. Very disappointed GM killed off Saab.
*sigh* they will be missed. Really jonseing for a 9-3 SportCombi in decent condition. Some day.
Still a great looking car today
gm took over and made a great car SHIT
they completely destroyed both platforms 9-5 and 9-3. I guess this was the last review.
they truly did.
No Saab buyer would buy a BMW instead and vice versa. It's really a Saab thing, you gotta own and drive one to understand. Once you're hooked, there's no getting out.
Saab may sell more if they lowered the price of their cars. I still like it though. I like the green accenting colors.
I love this car so much and that red is so NICE. I'll take a black and a red please
Yeah it's a shame they didn't make their own engines for the NG9-3 and NG9-5. But BioPower means it can run on both gasoline and ethanol. The hardware has been capable of this for at least 10 years, but it wan't offered on new cars until 05. Though, there are 3rd party software updates available to get BioPower functionality in older cars.
They should have made it a 8 liter 4 cylinder quad turbo AWD with 8 track and bullet proof glass.
XDDD haha
And 30mm thick titanium plates.
I have the 2011 9-5 Turbo 4 and great review
Not many have talked about the Saabaru Subaru clone sort of by Saab
The exterior is pure joy but the interior was ruined by GM part sharing. This was under development during the GM ownership.
This was SAABs final year :(
Saab is opening up positions to fill for assembly lines as we speak.
It's unfortunate that Saab really had to rush this car into production and cut back on interior quality spending. I've seen that fake wood in person...it's really bad :( I love seeing them on the road though. It's hard to believe it's a 10 year old car because the styling seems to fresh and current.
@TurboFuss1 True but that GM technology also made Saab 'more reliable,' and that's a quote from this clip.
I remember 20 years before this car, MW tested a 1991 Saab 9000 turbo. John said then that it is hard to spend over 30 grand for a 4cyl car. That is still the case today. Most cars are equipped with I-4 turbo's. What ever happened to cars with V6's? My V-6 Impala gets better gas mileage than most 4cyl turbos.
Now only making military aircraft fighter jets.
I want this car, more so than a 5-series and Infiniti M
@bigphat200 You're right, and they won't ever understand...the Saab is special because it isn't a typical Hyundai or Ford.
So sad to see this maker is gone
I have a Saab for 22year and she still looks the same
My Saab is 93 years 2002
So sad to see Saab go.
Four out of those six words started with the letter "S".
So sad since seeing Saab say sayonara. That's the way to do it.
@carcrazy19 Get the HIRSCH ECU tune! The automatics are faster from all the tests I have seen .
I’m a Saab guy. Saab were really special, sucks that GM managed to kill a legendary brand
GM should incorporate more of Saab's dna into the Buick brand. This'll make Buick at least somewhat more exciting.....
@NattDogg01 Agreed, the prices are very inflated. Even Volvo has gotten more competitive with their pricing.
I had a 1989 SAAB made by SAAB Auto and I have a 2001 SAAB made by GM. To say that GM madw Saab 'more reliable' is laughable. What they did was to junk it up. The '89 would have lasted forever, the '01 costs me $1000 every other month. Still, the turn radius beats out a BMW or AUDI every time, and that makes my car a lot of fun to drive. I hope the company that buys SAAB loves the brand's uniqueness and invests to keep it competitive.
I really dont like how he keeps saying how improved saab id with this car.I have owned 3 saabs and can only say that there is something special about all of them.Its the purity of the older saabs that make them great.Why change the design to this big and bulky design? is
@theballinmaster the front of this car looks like a Saab 9-5, but the rear of this car looks like a Saab 9-5.
The Chrysler Sebring called. It wants its nose back.
I never realised until now Saab is gone.
Better looking? If you want it to look the same as any other sedan.
I’ll keep my C900 vert thanks.
ppl are missing the point of this car. Just because it doesn't follow the layout of what a normal person would consider acceptable when purchasing a auto. Sometimes that is what makes it better. Not being Normal.Yea, a Ford Taurus will blow the doors off this car. and The Hyundai Geneses look like the deal of the century next to it, but i always get this chill when i see a Saab on the Road. I so want one.
you will be missed.
It was the last
To : \/
Gm is not reliable yep.
But that saab looks pritty different and
Cool.
The good thing about current recession is that it is like a drought in Savana - only the fittest will survive. And clearly with that interior and lack of innovation Saab will not be amongs the shortlist of survivors as well as Volvo and some US manufacturers
R.I.P SAAB
You know your supposed to be scared when he gets in it like that? Well I guess Kyle massey is. You know challenge seven now.
The brand saab is looking to saved as next year
I miss Saab too, but please we have to get Saab down to a decent everyday working person's price we are the ones who really loves SAAB's it's not the rich and famous wealthiest people. I think that's what they got wrong. not GM
@TurboFuss1 8.2 is horrible when you consider that a Nissan Maxima, inferior in my eyes, hits 60 in 5.9 seconds and has a lower cost.
And sure enough it was the last review for saab
I am seeing new 9-5's pop up for sale nearly 1/2 off sticker. I wonder who if anybody will handle warranty issues and servicing?
@johnnyr25 Compared to the M series, the Saab is much better looking in my opinion, plus it doesn't offer a wagon option like Saab will. Agreed the Sonata is much better value, but then again it is still a Camry/Accord competitor...whereas the Saab has a manual/AWD option which Hyundai never offers in sedans.
RIP Saab
Come back Saab 😎😎😎
In order for Saab to comeback they would have to try to ticket to high ends and work down like jag is trying
Unfortunately, it was the last Saab 9-5. That sucked because that 9-5 was sharp!!!!
@Lesserthannone Obviously you're a Saab fan, like me. Which is your favorite model?
@bmwmsport11 GM is good when you aren't talking about the American brands. The Ecotec engine, after all, isn't an American design or development. It's a good engine.
This isn't a saab...the 9-3 was a saab. And still is. Great cars if you ever decide to own one.
The 9-3 is a Opel Vectra with a different sticker. Get your facts strait
Marius Maudal same platform, totally different cars. I know my facts thank you enstien for your brilliant comment.
Same platform, same engine, same electronics, same front and rear suspension
Marius Maudal what's your point?. I've owned more Saab's than you most definitely , are you soon going to tell me that Buick is an Opel? Which I already know. Or how about the 9-2x which is a Subaru. Or maybe the sky Is blue? And grass is green? How about the earth? Which is round....hmm how about an old 900s? Triumph engine reversed and engineered by Saab. I don't know what's your point your telling me everything I already know
You started with a comment about the 9-5 not being a Saab. It's just as much a Saab as the 9-3. Or just as little. That's my point
Something tell me saab is goin to return in a few years. If not saab owners might turn to volvo?
@DroverChicago Yea, the heart is a funny thing.
Under GM Saab is more reliable :)))))))))))))))))))))))) Be serious man! Where the hell did you came up with this :)))))))))))))))
Cristian Seibriger The GM underpinnings like the Epsilon frame and Haldex4 AWD with torque vectoring was as good as they come back the and very reliable.
Under GM Saab had it's best sales year in 2003 with 9-3.
@@normt5463 But overall the car became considerably less reliable with GM. Everyone that owns saab can affirm that. They had a lot of problems with electronics and other issues. Gm has not been known been known for making reliable cars simce the early 90s
@@normt5463 Saab had even much better sales with the saab 900 in the 80s especially with the turbo models so it doesn't prove anything if saab had good sales in 2003 LOL. Furthermore since yoy mentioned the 9-3 , i can also remind you how cheap the interior became with the introduction of the new 2003 9-3 it was cheap as hell, cheap plastic everywhere that would break easily, the engine that gm put was not as reliable nor as tough as the good old T5 engines that saab used to make. The car had also a lot of problems with electronics. So bitch please 😂 it's a well known fact that gm just drove saab to the bottom with their shitty quality. It's good saab weren't listening to them everytime that's why they were still decent cars otherwise the would've been terrible shitty cars.
@@christrahi16 GM owned half of Saab from 1990 on. We had 5 Saab 9-5's in sedans and wagons. Never had a electrical issue unless you are talking DI cassette. We still have a 2004 9-5 Arc wagon that needs a brake distribution module rebuilt. But those are all Saab specific issues.
@@normt5463 Yeah saabs weren't unreliable under gm but my point is that they became less reliable. Gm was only interested in fast money so they wanted saabs to make their cars cheaper and cheaper, that is why they began in cost reductions and with every year from 1997 for the 9-5 they started removing features and trying to make parts cheaper and many parts were in plastic. There is a part that is responsible for the shifting gear that was made in plastic and made the shifter feels mushy quite fast among other examples. Yes i meant the diy cassette when i saod electrical issues but an also known problem was the ac system. I have two 9-3 and in both of them it is not functioning peoperly. In my 9-5 it has been renovated. I love saabs but i think that if they have been alone they would have manufactured their csrs in a higher quality and higher engineering.
They need to fix the interior to make it competitive.
Whoever thinks gm makes crap is mistaken. You are buying cars from shit owners or you yourself is the shit driver. Park avenues have a 3800 v6 in a 5000lb car and will easily out last a Honda in distance travelled. It also can achieve 33mpg. Saabs are also great regardless if it was a Saab or a gm. If you haven't owned a Saab, you have no room to judge, they are solid, long lasting vehicles that stand the face of time. A 95 Saab feels more like a 2005. The steering is solid, the motor is
Elon... Resurrect this wonderful brand, PLEASE ! It would be a great compliment to your electric lineup at Tesla. Build them, and they will come.
Saab fought the law but the law won
Why review this car? Didn't saab sell less then 500 cars last year in the US?
If SAAB comes back, THANK GOD that GM will be out of it...these new SAABs, while looking OK, are blahhh...What happened to the good old 9-5 Aero with the beautiful 2.3 turbo?? My favorite was the 2nd gen 9000 Aero 5spd -- these had soul, looks, quality, and quirk. BRING BACK THE QUIRK!
Unfortunatly that was thier problem, to expensive and they were known to have alot of problems which cost even more. Had the cars been cheaper they would have sold more, ALOT more. but now unfortunatly they are dead. I will still only drive a saab though.
"to many of the shelf GM components"
But why? What where they thinking of? And a lazy "turbo v6" with not more than 300hp?
I even think the old 9000Aero bets the V6 on the high way...
+fortune300 they were smoking crack.........excuse them
+fortune300 My brothers Cadillac sts v6 na makes that much power in 2008
+Doctor Death No they dont. They make 260ish. Not 300
302 hp and 272 ft-lbs
www.edmunds.com/cadillac/sts/2008/features-specs/
Caddy has two different engines the direct injection one made over 300 the normal 3.6 was like 275 or so
I never get why they are so expensive? And they always seems to be 8 years behind everybody else..
9-3 saab video KIUPST