How English Football is Killing the FA Cup
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2024
- It's been a week of cup chaos at Wembley with Coventry being beaten by Manchester United on penalties in controversial fashion and Manchester City beating Chelsea... in the same fashion. New changes to the FA Cup are killing it though, and that should be the main story. We need FA cup replays.
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Imagine Dorking Wanderers get a 3rd round tie with Liverpool away and draw 0-0 and get a replay. Jurgen klopp will complain and then Marc White tells him to Shut the f*ck up.
It would not happen tho unlike you're team that was 3-0 up against a championship team to then get a ref to send you to the final like the sh** team you are
if dorking played a prem team having a documentary made about them (like how city and arsenal and all those clubs did) it would be absoluetly amazing watching them side by side
Problem is as a Dorking fan we always seem to trip up at the last hurdle of the 4th quali round happened to Horsham this year you eventually got to the 2nd round
@@LAJS1996 Dorking players dont seem to want the big days out 😅
ironic thing is this youtuber keeps mentioning mancity and pep when his club liverpool and klopp are the ones who have been complaining for years about reruns and FA Cup, Pep hasnt until they asked him yesterday his opinion, and gave the nicest answer Arteta and Ten hags replies were shambolic
PL managers: "We're playing way too many games already"
_EFL teams and lower looking at 46 league games and the EFL Cup_
Dont forget the papa John's trophy aswell, so at minimum 2 games their, and depending doing how well they do, about maybe 7 games aswell, so add that on top, feel teams are playing a minimum of 50 matches EVERY F*CKING season
Don't forget that they have to think about the J.Paint trophy, on top of being in the F.A. Cup. On top of playing way more League matches than in the Premier League
@@LivingstonHudson-hz4my oh is that what's its called now, fair enough I still thought it was the papa John's trophy 🤣🤣
@@TJHOOKER-xu4nh Pretty sure it's Bristol Sport Motors now, that's what the final was for earlier this month
@@Ezzeekia oh fair enough, tnx, I dont support an efl club, so I'm not as familiar with the Bristol motors trophy and that, but I know how it works and that. ( i think lol, i might have it completely wrong haha🤣🤣 pretty sure it's like 16 groups of 3? Then u play 2 games in the group and the top 2 go to the knockouts?
The Magic Of The FA Cup is hating replays because my flashy London Big 6 team conceded a screamer against Dagenham and Redbridge at home. Replays add to the unpredictability of football, a true example of the phrase "The Football is Round".
Name me the last time a replay led to the smaller ranked team winning at a top 6 club away from home..
Or any premier league team
@@Micfri300 I mean yeah they don't win, but thats not the point if you are a league 2 or non-league like Bradford city the result in the replay rarely matters like yeah you might lose but you got to play Liverpool and now your club has so much more money.
@@JasmineUtd Wimbledon v West ham, 2016 i think
@@Micfri300 regardless of result, the fact that a smaller ranked team has what it takes to take on and possibly beat a premier league club deters me from watching one-team leagues.
Me and my dad are lifelong Exeter fans and he was at both games for that Man Utd tie in '05 you mentioned in the intro. The match at Old Trafford was the greatest day of his life, even though no goals were scored, the pure spectacle of is boyhood club drawing to Man Utd at Old Trafford was incredible. FA Cup replays are quite literally the reason that clubs like Exeter, Burton and many non-league clubs still exist today
Rubbish.
The reason why small clubs exist is because they recruit head coaches who know how to improve players.
@@Micfri300 partly, but football at this level is nothing without money
@Micfri300 Not without money they can't...
@jefftegg5320 if notts county sell macaluey longstaff for a million plus this summer is that also down to the fa cup?
@aidenaro9331 yes and which is why free transfers are king.
“For fuck sake, a premier league team should be beating a championship team with ease”
Well Ten Fraud! Step right up 😂😂😂
Don't act like we didn't go to pens vs blackburn
Wolves and Everton 💀☠️
As a Chelsea fan we don't talk about Middlesbrough 💀
@@cheetah0869 granted yes. That was fucking embarrassing performance. But play Burn at LB (as always) makes us with ten men. Not making excuses as we were shite that day
We won the fa cup
If you don’t want a replay win the first game
Niran could've saved the FA cup if it weren't for his knee injury
Bro never stops giving us football news in the funniest way😂😂😂
Exeter fan here, appreciate you telling our story. Replays against United and later Liverpool have given us so much as a club, financially and in stature. Totally agree with everything you've said here, and it's nice to see fans of all clubs being just as disappointed. It also sets a dangerous precedent with conforming to what the PL teams say. If the FA rolls over to this, what else can they get away with?
In the end its all Moneyball... they do tours for money, they play more Champions League and international games for money, and the most profitable of those ventures survive. Big clubs are able to lobby FAs with their financial power, so even if the FA did ask lower league sides, they still would have crumbled to the big clubs. Pity this is the football I have to grow up in.
watch the championship it’s much better
if it weren’t for Niran’s mind-boggling knee injury, he would’ve been head of the fa and disapproved the scrapping of replays
arsenal fan and this actually hurts, we have won this title so many times and had so many good memories in this competition and to see it be jeopardised by money pains me
It's not being jeopardised though lol.
It's the league cup format but with the 50 50 gate split. It's literally better for the smaller teams to cause more upsets.
Felt so sorry for coventry yesterday. MAJOR PAIN.
I’m pretty sure everyone and their mother who dosent support Man Utd or coventrys rivals were supporting Coventry
@polandiumi5211 me and my mum included lol literally
@@polandiumi5211our rivals wanted us to win. Everyone did. Shocking.
Yeah Coventry were robbed because how Tf was that offside when wan bissaka slipped and played man on? They just wanted a Manchester derby in finals
@@chairmanmeow8388because the hate for united is stronger than the hate for Coventry 😂. In the words of a wise man “Bun united”
prem managers can't handle a cold & rainy night in stoke
The FA cup is generally how i got introduced to English football. I genuinely got to love Redding and Oxford united for some reason through it
Fuck is redding?
@@beastfootball1782he probably means Reading
You're absolutely right. I thought the F.A was in existence to support all football leagues in England and Wales
ANOTHER W FNG VID!!!KEEP IT UP NIRAN!!!
Harry Kane crying knowing this is the only trophy he will ever win.
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@@Dr.LingLangYT they lost
He ain't even won that😂
Not too bright are you "Thursday"...? 😑
@@YorkshiremanReacts26 probs a bot. This is how u explain this stupidity
as a Maidstone United fan, they FA Cup has provided some of our greatest days ever this season beating Barrow, Stevenage and Ipswich. I don't why people complain about the prem teams playing more games because the Prem is one of the smallest leagues compared to EFL and Non-leagues most having 46 games. for most non-league teams playing 60 + games with the fa cup and Fa trophy whilst balancing a normal 9to5 job
You beat those 3 teams without the need of a replay though.
@Micfri300 you get teams like Aldershot tho who drew to league 2 Stockport at home then beat them away or Newport the last few seasons the replays give clubs alot of money that helps them kick on for years
@@ja1295 Newport are still in league 2.
@Micfri300 and newport struggle financially so the replays helped them?
As a Man United Fan I agree with this. Playing youth players in an FA Cup should be what we must do especially for the health and sake of the players (especially with utd's injury record this season).Its also a good way of scouting or seeing the progress of youth and reserve players. Who knows? A very good player could sprout from those games and you wont have to spend 700 million buying a CM that does nothing😮💨💔
I think a lot of people are overlooking what the “big 6 managers want” with playing less games. It’s not about playing less than the lower league clubs, they want to play similar levels of games as the teams in Spain, Germany, Italy etc to be able to compete in Europe
Again a lazy excuse for English failure in Europe. Spain already has two legs for cup games. France has two cup competitions as well as England. If you don’t want a replay either win the game first time or accept the rules of the competition you enter and play the replay, you can use youth players if you want to rest the 1st team but everything from the top clubs is just an excuse.
They should make a winter break then but no they insist on playing over december 😂
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Get with the times, buddy. France hasn't had a League Cup since 2020. And they even reduced their league to 18 teams.
Spain hasn't had two legged ties except for the semi finals since 2020 as well.
Italian teams in Europe play 5 matches in the cup at most.
Germany has an 18 team league.
Want to take a guess as to what the consequence is? Teams from every single one of these countries play less than Premier League teams. Know why the reductions were made? To improve performances in Europe. Go figure.
@@JoaoFerreira-pj1uc That's why they said it only benefits the top 6 Premier League teams. So, you're going to remove the lifeline of almost 700 other clubs in the pyramid just so the benefitted ones can play in Europe? Makes it even more selfish.
@@catmeowing4329 you're talking as if the Cup as a whole was cancelled. If the lifeline of 700 clubs is the prospect of playing a big team to a draw so they can play them a second time, then that is some horrendous budgeting by every single one of them. The vast majority of clubs already don't play games against Premier League teams, and those who do don't always draw the first game. Where are all the clubs going out of business here?
English clubs are so lucky to be in a cup that gives them so much prize money for their matches, and they still complain. It's so baffling. How about they don't bank their entire season on a luck of the draw situation?
Fun bit of info Cray Valley Paper Mills FC who played against Charlton in the F.A. cup are actually local to Charlton. "The Valley" is in the same set of Valley's coming down from Eltham to the Thames as Cray Valley is. It was a huge game for the community as most Cray Valley fans are Charlton fans.
I do agree that there is a lot of game congestion in the year of football, but managers like Pep and Klopp can't say anything when they always want to play their strongest squad in every game.
Managers need to switch their squad more frequently so that the players don't get burned out so much. That's why Liverpool's first team squad has been injured for half the season. If anything, big teams can use these opportunities against small teams to test the youth team to see how good they are.
Also, we need to get rid of dumb extra games in the Carabao Cup. Why do the final four teams have to play 2 semi final legs when everywhere else you only play 1 game
Let's not forget there was an entire World Cup in the middle of the season.
Lifelong exeter fan and st holder. We are fan owned and thriving. We are only where we are now because of that replay v man united. Without that we would not be here or be non league. The crucial thing here is that it was the foundation to build our club. We then put most of our profits into the academy, producing players like Ollie Watkins and Ethan Ampadu, and many other less known players who we sold for 1m plus like Joel Randall, David Wheeler, etc. That is the reason we are where we are now. We will never be huge as we do not have a financial backer of any kind, but the club will always be ours. Up the city❤
The model of how we run our club is definitely worth a look especially if you are a fan of a premier league club. We are an example that the fans are the most important thing in football.
Swansea City and Luton Town reached the premier league without huge fanbases but through clever recruitment and a playing philosophy.
Nothing to do with them getting a replay.
@@Micfri300so far off the point it’s unreal. Swansea and Luton’s future wasn’t on the line and then saved by the revenue from the replay. Since then ECFC have invested in the youth academy producing Ollie Watkins, Ethan Ampadu, and many other players. We wouldn’t have got that chance without that replay.
@@jmanstee Look up Luton points deduction.
@@jmanstee plus swansea were in league 2 at the time.
Donkey.
i saw a flurry of tweets about replays being canceled and as an American fan, had no idea what that meant so thank you for explaining it. in the states, I can't think of anything even remotely similar to this in any of the sports I know anything about (admittedly not too many but at least half) and I think what you described as the fa in the past is an incredible thing. its disgusting behavior from the PL and FA getting that axed and worse for the world of football as a whole
FA Cup is when when my local team Crawley Town FC faced my childhood club Man Utd at Old Trafford. I loved it when my local team also beat Leeds 3-0 a few years back. FA Cup.
Please make video of players being overplayed every season and getting little rest offseason
he talked about exeter city ❤
Totally agree with Neran on this one
I live in the USA and I love the FA cup even though I can’t watch it I love the fa cup I listen to it and over the radio and the radio commentators say the players are playing better than in the league and that the little teams hold there own with the big guys
I know the League cup is a different competition but, remember Bradford getting all the way to the final in 2013. Saved them from going into administration. That shows you what cup competitions can do for smaller clubs.
I never considered this decision from4the POV of the smaller club in th pyramid. I didn't think about how the money gained from replays in this competition could genuinely keep them in operation, or how replays provide more opportunities for the "magic o the FA cup" to happen. As a non UK-based English football fan, I pretty much agreed with the views of Pep, Klopp, Frank and co about this decision. But this video has opened up a new point of view of the situation that I never even considered before. Thank you for opening my eyes.
8:43 I didn’t need to be reminded of this… but yeah for cray valleys sake I’m glad they got the replay against us
If PL academies are 'world class,' they should have no problem stamping out a starting XI for a replay against Banbury United on a Tuesday night.
As a QPR fan, this means fuck all to us because we always get knocked out of the third round every year anyway 😂
Nah Niran spoke staight fax this vid replays must stay man 😢
It's rare that I agree with a Liverpool fan but you got this spot on. It's more money for clubs that already have PLENTY of money and that it'll never affect. from a city fan.
I know the Man City fan isnt talking 💀
@@JasmineUtd he literally agreed with niran, how are you making this look bad you melon 😂
@@JasmineUtdhes agreeing with Niran? 😂
I’m sure you being a city fan knows all about money
Great commentary, one angle that is missed is that replays are being gotten rid of in earlier rounds as well. So a non league side that reaches the first round may lose out on the chance to progress to the later rounds of the tournament
I would love to see Liverpool play QPR across 2 legs in the FA Cup, imagine the 2 teams play the most attractive and entertaining football match we have seen since Mbappé in Qatar..
Thank you for mentioning our club! Much love from an Exeter fan
As a Bracknell Town fan this is shocking news, we nearly took Cambridge to a replay this season!
Well said👏🏾
I don't know much about english football ,but i know the importance of the cup games for the lower league teams.
I live in Romania and I support FCSB and FCSB ten years ago played a cup game against an amateur team called Avantul Barsana and that game is still talked about till this day,not because it was a huge upset or something,but because it happened,and in that season FCSB played UCL football,just imagine an amateur team playing against the best team in the country ,it was huge for them.
That is the magic of a cup game.
Intro about Exeter City my hometown club put in perspective, and rant really hit the nail on the head. Replays have been an absolute staple of the FA Cup since the inaugural competition in 1872. "F*ck the FA"'s what I say. I am a Southampton fan and in 1976 my club, who were in the equivalent of the Championship, beat First Division title contenders Manchester United 1-0 in the Fa cup final. This is our only ever major trophy (discounting the 2010 johnstone's paint trophy) and our run to the European cup winners' cup quarter finals the following season (still, I might add, as a second-tier team- this was literally like Cardiff or Bristol City getting to the Europa League quarters today) pretty much promoted us to the top flight two years later, and by 1984 we were finishing 3 points off the first division title. We weren't relegated until 2005. Without that cup win, which started with a 90th minute equaliser at Villa before winning the replay, literally changed our history, not only our trophy case but league positions for the next 50 years as well. Being an underdog rather than a big 6 fan who expects to get to the final without even trying, that's what's killing it all. We were the third Second Division side in the Cup final in four years... can you even begin to imagine a single one doing so today?? A mid-table championship outfit in Europe at all?? It all stems from hooliganism, and clubs trying to prevent it by forming the premier league which was a massive pig-out on money anyway, and big clubs getting bigger, small ones getting smaller. The gap between the Premier League and the Championship is bigger than the one between the Championship and the national league!! THAT IS MENTAL!! Revenues for already struggling non-league teams (I literally watched my local semi-pros today) will plummet and the Yeovil's, Torquays, Scunthorpes, Southends, Rochdales, Oldhams, even clubs like Morecambe, will barely, if at all, manage to stay afloat. Scrapping replays is like scrapping the bloody final or banning non-league teams. Biggest tournament in Britain being treated like a Mickey Mouse cup by the rich cash-grabbers *cough* Saudi Arabia *cough* and that atrocious attitude to such a big and romantic competition is being further enhanced by its own organisers. I can't remember who it was that said, in the 1980s, "English football is diseased, and it looks terminal," but it still rings true today. If I've just made that up, I bet Sheffield United's chances of getting relegated that it'll still ring true in another 40 years. If you've read all of that, cheers. And cheers FNG for letting everyone know. Disgrace
As bad as it is at least the EPL teams will still play in the cup, here in the US mls did their best to kill the open cup to the point where only 6 mls teams will participate
Thanks!
The best competition of all time
Magical tournament
I commented on a thread about this, and I'm just going to repost that same statement here: How about scratch the replays, but then cut a larger slice for prize money in the early rounds? So the teams that make it far still get a nice payout for their good results.
A solution would be to drop the Prem teams from the Carabao Cup and make the competition exclusive to Championship, League One and League Two teams
I've been a subscriber to this idea for ages, but sadly since the EFL is a dysfunctional heap of dumbos, that seems very unlikely to happen.
We kinda already have that with the papa johns trophy but it’s kind of a mess as champ sides aren’t in it and they’ve allowed u23 prem sides in it
Hi
Love the video
8:41 well I wasn't gonna pay you to tell me it mate
by the name of the video i thought this was gonna be a boring video but intro sold me 🔥
I’m an Exeter fan and I’m glad you bought up our struggles and that Manchester United game, countless clubs have been in the same situation and like them without replays we wouldn’t have a football club to support
Well said Nirran 👏👏
Although I don’t agree with the decision, it could be much worse. In Mexico, they completely scrapped the domestic cup tournament since 2020. The excuse was Covid but they never brought it back.
Reason being, in 2019 the Mexican FA which is “FMF” started a tournament with MLS clubs known as “Leagues Cup”. Tournament took place during the summer but it was only QF to the final, so teams only played 3 games. At first it was only 4 teams from each league then they slowly increased the teams in 2021 and 2022.
Last year, all the MLS clubs and all the MX clubs played in the “Leagues Cup” tournament. That’s the tournament Messi won with Inter Miami last summer. Here’s the thing, both MLS and Liga MX paused their domestic league for a MONTH so the tournament can take place. For MLS it didn’t quite matter since they were in the middle of their season, but for the Mexican clubs, their season had just started with 3 games and it got paused.
That’s not it, ALL THE GAMES took place in the MLS clubs stadiums. From the group stages to the Final. Confirming the tournament is just a cash grab and taking advantage of the Mexican fans that live in the US. (The Mexican national team already has a deal to play ALL their games in the US btw). Club Leon had to stay in an airport overnight because there was a problem with the plane. The only Mexican club that made the semifinal, Monterrey, travelled more during the tournament than they did domestically throughout the season.
Because of this tournament, the MLS dropped all their clubs from their own domestic tournament known as US Open Cup (The only thing that the US and MLS had that was remotely close to pro/rel) they will play the tournament basically with youth teams. The excuse? Crowded schedule which they created themselves with the tournament. Can’t make this up 😂
Niran I was gonna comment and say that FA Cup replays saved my team and then you started on about Cray Valley. My first instinct was to shout “hey that’s my fucking team!” and get excited but I have to agree it’s set us up well. We’ve gone from 13th in the league that before that game to now being 1 point off winning it entirely. We’re set for a few years and it’s only the up for us I think in the 8th tier of English football. Let’s fucking go. GREEN ARMY! UP THE FUCKING MILLERS!
Niran deserves to get to 1mil he's my fav youtuber keep up good work😁
Niran is up to something here!!!
I’m a Grimsby town fan and last year we had a Brilliant cup run that gave us 1 million plus
Great video
Big 6 fan myself unfortunately but also support my local in which the FA doesn’t care about
Niran, if you remember back in 2019, Maldon and Tiptree (an 8th tier side) made the 1st round and lost to newport county. Maldon and tiptree have been running with that money and it will fund the team for the next 5 years
The magic of the cup is still alive and kicking in the early rounds specifically.
During my time at Uni, i went to the local Non-League sides game, and the club managed to get a tie against at the time National League Torquay Unhed in the Fourth Qualifying Round - the first time the club had got that far since the 1960's, and the prize money from that set the club up for promotion due to being able to upgrade their ground to meet their tier above's requirements.
To a degree, I do understand the need for player welfare - but if any of the teams should be able to overcome fixture congestion, its the clubs hoarding talent, with up to date sports scientists, world class physiotherapists, and bucket loads of money anyway.
i’m a city fan and it doesn’t make sense how matheus nunes was on the bench for the 2nd game against real madrid and AGAIN on the bench against chelsea. the squad is definitely big enough to rotate and minimise tiredness. sergio gomez literally has less than 50 appearances for us
loved watching u for a good few years, as a Blackburn fan likely to go down to league one, think this is the video i've enjoyed the most, that and knowing Pears will be on FTW this week. FA Cup and WC best cup competitions in sport, needs to be maintained as without it so many clubs/sporting communities will cease to exist. More rants like this required lad.
if you sack off the energy drink invitational (carabao cup) then that leaves space in the calendar for bigger breaks in-between matches.
Completely agree.
So the top 6 in PL in total play 38 PL games, 6 European group stage games, knockouts if they make it adds another 4 or 5 max, then there's FA Cup and League Cup, in total there's about 50-odd games, EFL sides play 42 or 46 games, FA Cup, League Cup and BSM Trophy but they need those games for financial aid.
The world needs more of angry Niran. I love the passion of your content here.
I think one big thing you're missing is that a cup run could save a manager from losing their job, eth is the most recent to benefit from this, imagine if he puts a youth team and get knocked out early in the fa cup, he would've been sacked by now. That being said i still think there should be a better solution than scrapping replays though.
I was surprised when you mentioned Macclesfield. That's where I'm from.
wasn’t Klopp playing a bunch of his young players instead of his starting eleven in one of these competitions and people were giving him stick cuz apparently he didn’t respect the competition. it was either the fa cup or carabao
Plymouth argyle fan. Drawing 0-0 in 2017 and getting the replay against Liverpool was awesome. Not sure about the financial side of things but having Liverpool at home park was special
another thing to take into consideration is, get into the heads of the FA and imagine if all the big six of the premier league got knocked out at the first occasion because they played the u19's against a 5/4/3th tier team. That would be a massive hit to the competition, i don't think as many people would still watch the cup games after that, and therefore games would generate way less money. That said, i think that should be a risk that big clubs have to take: either play a strong formation to win or do some turnover to make your startes rest but risk losing. That's what makes a cup competition so interesting in the first place, but you have to remember that it's all made in the interest of the big clubs, who, i completely agree, should not cry about having to play 1 more game against freaking Dagenham & Redbridge or whatever
the financial gap between the lower leagues and the top is ever increasing and the fa do not care they haven't tried to help the quality that is lower league football despite the teams asking for a better financial package for years bit all they want to do is please the biggest clubs in the country. I support Tranmere rovers and I am so proud of my team to be one of the first teams to come out against the disgusting behaviour that comes from the FA, right now we need to make as much noise as we can to try an sway the minds of the greed in England and get due compensation that these teams have deserved for so long.
Being a Liverpool fan mainly it’s painful seeing it but Bristol City being my local club when they had to replay against West Ham this was amazing the atmosphere but also having a chance to watch premier league players without spending excessive amounts on tickets
My first time seeing Arsenal was Fa cup 3rd round against Hull, I went and saw Newport play Spurs at Wembley when spurs were hosting games at Wembley because of the stadium being built. Genuinely the fa cup gives more chances for fans to go to games cause tickets have costed less. They remove another way fans can see games for cheaper like I cant believe this is happening
I read somewhere that In 2015 Cambridge United drew Man Utd in the FA Cup and were able to use the money from that draw to improve their ground, most notably through the purchase of new toilets for their stadium.
i agree tbh, my local team is weymouth and to see them a 6th tier side draw at home to wimbledon was amazing. we should have won that game. so in a way the replay killed us causing us to loose 4-1 but i can say on both sides its a good and bad thing
"I know it will bankrupt and destroy many lower league clubs to remove FA cup replays. But thats a sacrifice we are willing to make" Pep Guardiola, 2024 at Manchester City
As a gunner I feel like FA cup replays are absolutely necessary for smaller clubs. I play FM a lot with smaller clubs like division 6-4 usually and FA cup revenue is a ginormous helping hand
Cray Valley PM FC fan here, yes that replay was historic for us, we had to build new bits of our stadium for tv cameras and an extra 500 fans and it was crazy. We get about 200-300 fans per home game and it meant to world to have like 1000+ people there. This decision is fucking stupid guys 🚩🚩🚩
I believe up till the quarters, they should keep the replays
So glad this won’t be the case here in Scotland.
I mean I have been a spurs fan from a young age but as the years have gone on I’ve been too see my local team Dorking Wanderers rise through the ranks and been to see them more shame we got relegated this year but genuinely was so happy to see my manager and chairman call this out on sky sports
I see both sides point. The only thing I have to add is that the DFB Pokal has no replays and this year and still 2 second division clubs and 1 third division club were in the semifinals. But English football is different and you have to acknowledge that. If you hadn’t ruined your football over there more than 30 years ago, I would think it would probably be not such a big deal.
Best video I've ever seen, not many 'big 6' fans with this opinion
Saafend mentioned we are gargantuan
Well said, I think the best solution to clubs having different opinions on replays would've been to give clubs the option to settle ties on the day if they both agree to it (e.g. a tie such as Everton v Palace, you could settle on the day with no issues but it's a different story if it's a tie like Newport v Man Utd). Makes it more ridiculous when replays at are still mandatory in qualifying rounds despite them being at 3-4 days notice and without the TV revenue of replays in the competition proper whilst many non league players have other jobs alongside playing.
Ridiculous how PL clubs complain about playing too many games and needing a winter break but will play friendlies abroad during winter breaks and I'm sure have barely objected to UEFA needlessly adding extra games to their club competitions and FIFA introducing a 32 team Club World Cup.
Shrewsbury fan here, you may remember when we drew 2-2 with Liverpool securing a replay at anfield back in 2020. The money that resulted from that was essential especially considering the pandemic, without it we would have gone into debt. Even at the time the FA (and kind of Klopp) denied us the possibility of even more money by not televising the game as a result of the under 21s being sent out due to first teamers being 'fatigued'
The reality is that EFL teams play 8 more league games a season, league 1 and 2 teams also playing in the Bristol Street Motors Trophy and an additional 2 fa cup games. In non league the schedule is even more congested with fa cup qualifying and the fa trophy, not to mention most players also work jobs outside of football. This adds up to even more or equal to the amount of games a top 6 side will find themselves playing including europe.
There is no doubt to me that the FA is only listening where the money is, the Premier League. The money they keep to themselves could easily save the increasing number of clubs in financial difficulty each year, but it wont as changes like replays being scrapped demonstrates. I think that both the FA and premier league managers should remember that without the football pyramid there is no development path for youngsters, as grassroots dies with it, along with football in England as a whole
As an Exeter fan, we are devastated by the news. As you mentioned FA Cup replays saved us. If replays keep going, it could save other clubs like Torquay United or Bury.
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I disagree with Pep even tho im a city fan like if City are playing vs Wigan athletic or another lower league team we should just rotate thats what we have a big squad for . And it still helps out the clubs that really need the money . A few years ago a game between Liverpool vs Shrewsbury. Shrewsbury got a draw and a chance to go play at anfield . Games like this gives the Fa cup magic
In no way am I defending what the FA has done but I can understand what the top end managers are saying. It’s not about how many games in total they’re playing, it’s the time inbetween the games that’s the problem. I think Pep said last week about this in a press conference that he thinks it’s a disgrace that they play Thursday and then Saturday because the players were dead on their feet
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I really respect you Niran but I have to say, a few months ago you made a video about players being overworked and how football games are getting longer and longer going into extra time. And now you have an issue with this doesn't leave a good taste in the mouth. The biggest part I have to disagree with is "play the youth team", how does a manager work so hard picking the right players, play crazy money in wages just to play a youth team and lose. Liverpool plays young players due to injuries mostly last season, the word is due. I think a big club wants to remain a big club constantly, not just in big games. Listen, you 100% right though and I do agree it is unfair for lower league teams, no but. Its a tricky situation.
Shrewsbury town fan here , incredibly disappointed that this is happened, a decision that was made without any delegation with efl clubs, a decision that clearly benefits the premier league teams, we submitted a statement against this decision as did many other clubs in the same position as us. Can’t see the decision being changed anytime soon. if it benefits teams like Manchester City, then it benefits everyone else concerned , there are far more pressing concerns that contribute to player fatigue than a fa cup replay that could’ve been addressed but if it generates more revenue to those involved it isn’t a problem clearly .
This situation about the FA Cup is similar to what's happening in the U.S with America's equivalent in the U.S. Open Cup. The higher-ups of the top division in MLS and some of the teams are currently saying that there are too many games to play and can't be essentially asked to actually participate in the 100+ year old tournament, even though the Leagues Cup, which is the recently created summer world-cup style tournament between MLS and Liga MX clubs that the actual league and some of the team owners pushed for, has been the main reason why there's more games to play in the season. The hypocrisy is on another level, whether in England with the FA Cup or in the U.S. with the Open Cup. I'm just happy my hometown team FC Dallas has balls and said we are sticking with the U.S. Open Cup and playing in it
(On a side note, FC Dallas kinda has to play in the Open Cup since the guy that founded the club, Lamar Hunt, has his name & legacy honored in the tournament's name and on the trophy and his sons still run the club to this day.)
Honestly? The reasoning that clubs depend on replays is so asinine.
You're telling me that tens of clubs, hundreds even, are risking going bankrupt because of the chance that they will only play one match a top Premier League club instead of two? The vast majority of clubs already *don't* play those matches, or they either win or lose the first match anyway.
FA Cup having replays instead of extra time in the first place is already anachronistic by several decades. It's in no way more fair, and only leads to fixture congestion for a partial amount of teams, which, again, is in no way fair.
And guess what? Clubs relying on the FA Cup replay earnings is a horrendous financial risk. How about English directors and managers instead make budgets around the fact that there will be no more replays? The FA Cup is already by far the cup that generates the most prize money for its clubs, a little bit of financial responsibility wouldn't hurt them.
I agree that bigger clubs can just field younger players, but if the counter argument is "you'll bankrupt irresponsible clubs because they account for stuff that won't necessarily happen", then maybe you should come to the realization that these replays shouldn't exist in the 21st century.
Its the top 6 teams really, i love fa cup replays because it puts random teams on the map and u witness some madness.