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Komentáře • 721

  • @JPTRFX
    @JPTRFX Před 3 lety +136

    Was a honor to be in Your video!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +13

      More than welcome!

    • @a_hope_in_hell
      @a_hope_in_hell Před 3 lety +1

      Damn that Jive pedal sounds killer for sure!!

    • @toemasmeems
      @toemasmeems Před 3 lety +1

      I really want to check you guys out, awesome idea that pedal Kohle is testing here

    • @visualdarkness
      @visualdarkness Před 3 lety +1

      Your pedals have been on my buy list for quite a while!

    • @mikeman117933
      @mikeman117933 Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you guys for making that beast it sounds so wicked

  • @ONLYPAIN93
    @ONLYPAIN93 Před 3 lety +154

    Make metal dirty again

    • @ONLYPAIN93
      @ONLYPAIN93 Před 3 lety +2

      @RhinoMan Media We have a judge here nice...hahhah if you spend more time on your metal than your comments it might get better than normie brother ;)

  • @LordofDiamondsMetal
    @LordofDiamondsMetal Před 3 lety +66

    "play two notes per minute through three fuzz pedals and smoke a joint in between like the Doom guys" lol, that's hilarious

    • @danielschmidtke9213
      @danielschmidtke9213 Před 3 lety

      That reminds me, I just got my Super Fuzz😏

    • @jasonrader9735
      @jasonrader9735 Před 3 lety +3

      As a doom guy, I approve

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 Před 3 lety

      I like to boost the living bejeezus out a Rat with the tone control just dark of center and play in drop A.

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 Před 3 lety

      I should add that I play a single coil baritone through that mess, and I have left my noise suppressor on the shelf the last year or so. Basically the trick is not to stop playing.

  • @TheOtherJohnBrowne
    @TheOtherJohnBrowne Před 3 lety +46

    "Kaputt, Kindergarten and Blitzkrieg"
    I'd buy that album based on the title alone

  • @Auditium
    @Auditium Před 3 lety +22

    Congrats Christian - you've just found 90's sound of Polish metal bands :D

  • @seangriffey8669
    @seangriffey8669 Před 3 lety +22

    I really like using a fuzz pedal and a TS style overdrive in front of it. It doesn't give you a super tight sound, but it absolutely makes it way more usable for riffs, and it makes palm muted actually work.

    • @Cryptic_Goathammer
      @Cryptic_Goathammer Před 3 lety +1

      Does it actually fits for bm/death riffing ? A la archgoat/ marduk's Fuck me Jesus for instance

    • @whatskraken3886
      @whatskraken3886 Před 2 lety

      a TS after fuzz pedals is even better imo

    • @adammercy3588
      @adammercy3588 Před rokem

      I'll do you one better, if you get a BOSS SY-300, and use it as a multi fx processor, you can create stereo patches with 3 oscillators (line input included in each oscillator), pan them about halfway from each other (65% away from center). My left side is a hyper fuzz and the right side is a lead distortion. I get my beefy low end, my criso highs, and my mids are nice and clear. It's buzzy and can chug.

  • @cope847
    @cope847 Před 3 lety +22

    This is the kind if thing I'm looking for. The old school swedish dm/hm-2 tone with more control.

    • @ridenm7748
      @ridenm7748 Před 2 měsíci

      You can use a hm2 as a boost. High level - low distortion. Works better with a ts in the front of everything.

  • @SamLibman
    @SamLibman Před 3 lety +21

    This is why I love Sludge Metal so much. All kinds of different nasty tones. Fast or slow.

    • @rk28984
      @rk28984 Před 3 lety +4

      A lot of Sludge bands also use old amps from the 70ies/80ies or unusual setups.

    • @SamLibman
      @SamLibman Před 3 lety +1

      @@rk28984 Absolutely!

    • @WarrenBey
      @WarrenBey Před 3 lety +1

      EHG and Indian are the only sludge bands worth mentioning. It really doesn't deserve a sub-sub-genre.

    • @SamLibman
      @SamLibman Před 3 lety +13

      @@WarrenBey I very much disagree. There is so much amazing sludge out there.

    • @camdero3294
      @camdero3294 Před 3 lety +2

      @@WarrenBey isn’t crowbar sludge tho too? I know Kirk hates that title but still

  • @Artec619
    @Artec619 Před 3 lety +17

    An album with a great dirty guitar tone is Remission, the first Mastodon album. That tone always blew my head off.

    • @serginhosena
      @serginhosena Před 3 lety +1

      It's awesome!! Mastodon is my favourite band. I think they used Marshall 's JCM800, but I'm not sure how they boosted them.

    • @nathanlewis4252
      @nathanlewis4252 Před 3 lety

      @@serginhosena true screamer mainly I think bill mentioned he used an old tube king not and I think the amps were more modified idkm

    • @Zappabain
      @Zappabain Před rokem

      That album is amazing!! my favourite, maybe with the ... around the Sun or whatever.

  • @KohleAudioKult
    @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +87

    The DARK SIDE of DISTORTION! Who's coming with me?
    Any recommendations from your side?

    • @rasmusolesen5307
      @rasmusolesen5307 Před 3 lety +4

      Boss SD-1 -> Acapulco Gold/RAT -> Power Amp. Awesome stuff :D

    • @bastianmaoro8278
      @bastianmaoro8278 Před 3 lety +4

      The new Nano Metal Muff by EHX. Some RAT pedal dist with HM2 curved EQ style.

    • @johngallant3321
      @johngallant3321 Před 3 lety +8

      Look into the rigs used by Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel, Immolation and Gorguts. Yeah, they're all oldschool bands, but all of their guitar tones are unique and easily distinguishable from the rest of the pack.

    • @aarontravis1301
      @aarontravis1301 Před 3 lety +4

      You should check out the Way Huge Swollen pickle. Makes a really nice Grindy distortion when blended with a high gain amp.

    • @MK-oz2lf
      @MK-oz2lf Před 3 lety +1

      I always thought the tone on Fear Factory's "Obsolete" was a grimey yet tight and it is just a modded JCM 800 and a 7 string
      with an EMG 81. You could just use a Proco Rat as a boost or any pedal that is half drive half fuzz like the Catalinbread Katzenkonig

  • @GreyManFaustus
    @GreyManFaustus Před 3 lety +11

    You can get a mighty mean tone by boosting a JCM-style amp with a Metal Zone. I'm currently using that on my Doom project with a Peavey Windsor and it sounds very reminiscent of The Vision Bleak's older tones.

  • @johnnydove
    @johnnydove Před 3 lety +16

    "a bag of potatoes falling down the stairs" hahaha holy shit that was a good one, i'm gonna start using that

    • @regortex3364
      @regortex3364 Před 3 lety

      That saying is at least 40-50 years old, it’s usually used to describe bad drummers.

  • @Kyouki_IE
    @Kyouki_IE Před 3 lety +3

    "a bag of potatoes falling down the stairs" is probably the best description of guitar tone I've heard in a while hahaha

  • @theccarbiter
    @theccarbiter Před 3 lety +7

    Great way to make a fuzz sound more like a tight distortion is take a less extreme style fuzz (I use a mkII tonebender clone) and max the fuzz on it then stick a treble booster behind it and bam all the low end mess gets cleaned up fantastically. So signal path is guitar into treble booster into fuzz into amp. I’d recommend passive pickups for this but if you use higher output pickups or actives then you’re gonna wanna then the boost down a little bit otherwise it becomes too much. This also works with like a ts style overdrive before the fuzz but not as well. Also I use this in the clean channel with no dirt but it might sound good with the amp a bit dirty idk I haven’t tried it.

    • @TheExafro
      @TheExafro Před 3 lety +1

      This is a great tip! I've been messing with this the last few months and it also works Fuzz->Treble Boost-> Amp. I tend to prefer having the fuzz first in line to get that nasty mangled signal, and then have the treble boost afterwards to clean it up. The upside the this is that you can really slam the front end of your amp to saturate that first gain stage if you want.

  • @wakjob961
    @wakjob961 Před 3 lety +3

    I think the Axe FX is the new modern metal sound.
    Bands are making sounds/tones with those things that can't be replicated with tube amps + real gear.
    That said...Marshall 2205 + RAT pedal was my go-to back in the day.
    Not fuzzy. Not distorted. Ended up being something in between.

  • @richarddeeble09
    @richarddeeble09 Před 3 lety +20

    This seems to be what Kurt Ballou does so well.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +11

      He’s great! But I think, he’s going for something a lot more dirty. I’m trying to stay Metal and kinda tight. I don’t want total destruction.

    • @lobster272
      @lobster272 Před 3 lety

      Kurt Ballou uses an HM2 (or clone) for his dirtiest tones. That's that signature Entombed buzzsaw sound. I don't think he really uses much fuzz.

    • @ramonw9430
      @ramonw9430 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lobster272 But he also uses a lot of vintage Traynor and Peavey amps which get pretty fuzzy when dimed out. I have a "73 Traynor Custom Reverb and a '79 Peavey Century (the good ones with the sweepable mids) and they are both total stonerville even half dimed. I've read that he runs similar amps dimed with a tube screamer running into them going into various 4x12 cabs. Along with a myriad of other higher gain amps as well of course. So maybe he doesn't use "fuzz" pedals exactly but he definitely uses a lot of fuzzy sounds in the mix. Of course, the fuzz that comes from these amps is tighter, more organic, more controllable than what you would get with say a Big Muff or one of the Earthquaker devices style fuzz pedals and they do blend quite nicely with HM2 derived sounds.

  • @brianbowersox8392
    @brianbowersox8392 Před 3 lety +6

    The Walrus Jupiter fuzz sounds pretty heavy when boosted with a tubescreamer.

  • @Supertzar999
    @Supertzar999 Před 3 lety +2

    I recorded a new song double tracked with different distortion/fuzz combinations. Guitar A was with a Tube Screamer going into a Russian Pickle Fuzz. Guitar B was a Tube Screamer going into a Rat pedal. Huge wall of sound when both tracks are engaged in stereo.

  • @ChiAeNima
    @ChiAeNima Před 3 lety +5

    I'm playing at this moment in a Swamp Sludge/Stoner/Doom Metal band, and hearing the Fuzz instantly takes me to that Sludge feeling, vibe. I'm the guy who will make the fuzz out of control. Awesome one dude.

    • @debuenzo
      @debuenzo Před 3 lety +1

      What band? Any clips?

    • @ChiAeNima
      @ChiAeNima Před 3 lety +1

      @@debuenzo my band is called Wülfcrown but there's nothing already recorded. We're working in two splits with bands from Japan and the US of A. Hope to have something soon. Thanks for the interest bro.

  • @DawnofExistence
    @DawnofExistence Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome video! I wish more people would tweak their sound a bit to get more unique tones.
    We are reamping our album with a blend of boosted 5150 and a Butcher, HM-2, multiple mics, and a mix of speakers. I love coming up with unique yet familiar tones 🤘🏻

  • @lucwilson1
    @lucwilson1 Před 3 lety +18

    How about a ProCo RAT for some dirt?

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing Před 3 lety

    Great video. A luxury to hear so many great dirt pedals.
    I have a power trio. A journalist said my music has a SABBATH vibe but with a Prog Rock sensibility. My pedal board is virtually wired as 4 pedal boards. I use a switcher to switch between them. Each one has about 20 pedals with a compressor, a choice of dirt pedals a gate. delay and reverb. Some have modulation pedals. This allows for dramatic changes between the verse, chorus, mid 8 bridges etc.
    So I go from low gain pedals for flat picking ...to medium and high gain Marshall type sounds to modern Metal sounds even doom sounds with both OD's and Fuzz pedals. We do my 26 tunes and I use every one of my 72 pedals. In most tunes I use 3 different dirt sounds. I am always looking for better.
    The Okko Black Beast is a 'must have'
    Okko also do the Dominator which they put out 15 years ago. They have updated it so it has a balance between the really, really heavy old school and a modern Metal. You will not use on every tune but it killer to write some 'grinders' with. Get your tempo down between 75 to 100 bpm. You will find you come with some really cool new ideas.

  • @adilO.o
    @adilO.o Před 3 lety

    Your videos are getting better and better !!! This video is very refreshing and really different to what you would find from the main stream Metal CZcamsrs !! I really enjoyed every second of it.
    Interesting to hear a studio, producer guy explore sounds that are not tight and controlled 😄 !!
    I believe one of the limit of metal guys today, is we are all afraid to disappear in the mix if our tone is not tight, with a lot of brightness and bite.
    I think one great example of unconventional metal tones is Rabea Massaad in Toska. He's as well a big Fuzz user. Well he's the only guitar in the mix and the bass guy is super tight and focused so he has monstrous wall of sound metal tones !!!

  • @mrclarksix
    @mrclarksix Před 3 lety +1

    This is the kind of sound I like, heavy AF but still controlled. I'm running a TH30 with the gain at about 2:30 with an old school MXR 10 band in the loop to remove some of the boomy low end but keep the depth and sculpt the mids.

  • @z0nnexie
    @z0nnexie Před 3 lety +1

    YEESSS!
    And don't forget to mention, that the part of the secret to your dirty, but still somehow tight sound is your amazing Fernandes baritone guitar!
    Scale means a lot when you use lower tunings, because it controls the strings tension.
    Right tension in the strings makes any gain and low frequencies more controllable.
    A quantity of srings is nothing but more scale length for that solid punchy tone with a lot of clarity.
    To tell the long story short: strings 27'

  • @Anshul1614
    @Anshul1614 Před 3 lety

    I have been experimenting with this for sometime. It has been quite enjoyable. Rabea Massaad uses this as well. Tasteful introduction of fuzz with a high gain tone gives a lot of thickness and character.

  • @mrcoatsworth429
    @mrcoatsworth429 Před 3 lety +2

    High on Fire has some awesome riffs with fuzzy distortion. Love it!

  • @EdwinvanKoppen
    @EdwinvanKoppen Před 3 lety +8

    Yes, make metal more dirty! Love the tech death metal when it came up but nowadays it's way too clean!

  • @georgepelekoudis
    @georgepelekoudis Před 3 lety +3

    The Jupiter pedal kicked ass! Happy new year :)

  • @FernandoRoma
    @FernandoRoma Před 3 lety +1

    Those kind of fuzzier lows in modern metal always reminds me of Heartwork from Carcass, love the guitar sound in that album

  • @MetalZoned
    @MetalZoned Před 3 lety +1

    Sounds good. Cool that it actually worked out well in a mix

  • @TheGhostGuitars
    @TheGhostGuitars Před 3 lety

    I agree, the Tubescreamer can help to tame the otherwise unusable fuzz coming outta nother pedal.
    Mainly only cuz it's hard to find a good fuzz while stuck at home, I had to make do with the other "fuzz" I already have now: an OLD DigiTech Grunge. I got that one as part of a set of second hand pedals full of Ibanez Series 7 pedals (including the SM7 Smash Box, which is what I really wanted) plus a bunch of other pedals including the Grunge.
    For the longest time I've never really played much with it cuz it's a "bit" too uncontrolled. However during the past year (2020), with one being stuck at home with lots of extra time and less things to do, I started messing around those pedals in my "unusable" pile.
    With a Tubescreamer (I'm using the TS7 Ton-Lok version) it becomes a bit more manageable and actually sounds fairly good. However, not good enough to topple my current pedals for the heavier hairy side: Ibanez SM7 Smash Box, or my occasional alt, the MT-2 Metal Zone (which is admittedly finicky as hell AND prefers to be in the amp's return loop).

  • @manuelninogarces9574
    @manuelninogarces9574 Před 3 lety +1

    excellent content! great to see you have your own channel! Greetings from Ecuador!

  • @DerSilvano
    @DerSilvano Před 15 dny

    1:14 that rhythm slaps

  • @RyRyTheBassGuy
    @RyRyTheBassGuy Před 3 lety +7

    I feel this is one area the digital domain has a leg up. The only downside is setting up a rig for live use. Although the cost of doing that nowadays isn't super crazy.

    • @oldnikix
      @oldnikix Před 3 lety

      Digital distortion can be fun, yes... A very different sentiment.

  • @xplanet2112
    @xplanet2112 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic demonstration of the tone chasing/finding processes.

  • @vomitur
    @vomitur Před 3 lety +1

    Hey, Kohle! You need to try the Karma Suture (germanium fuzz pedal), from Catalin Bread, used in front of the hi gain channel of a metal amp. Use it like you would use a tubescreamer! Sounds awesome! I've been using this setup with an Engl Powerball. It's weird but, it's like the pedal gives the amp another set of balls, it does something i can't explain to its attack that is thick and balsy, but without the typical "spit" of most fuzzes! Great video, hugs!

  • @topsecret1837
    @topsecret1837 Před 3 lety +2

    I’ve come to fall in love with fuzz pedals. Most people with a cello when they play distortion go high up. I like the low end infinite sustain I can get with a bow. It only takes crunch levels of distortion to turn a cello’s sound to being super dirty. Suddenly you add fuzz to the equation. It would blow the world away.

    • @casanovafunkenstein5090
      @casanovafunkenstein5090 Před rokem

      I bet it sounds amazing.
      Miles Moseley does some stuff running his double bass through guitar pedals and it's like a completely different instrument

  • @DirtyDemos
    @DirtyDemos Před 3 lety +3

    Pro Tip: take a super thick fuzz with a shit ton of low end and mids and throw a tight drive in front of it. Example: Frost Giant Soma with a Pepers' Pedals Dirty Tree in front of it.

  • @BaldyMacbeard
    @BaldyMacbeard Před 3 lety +10

    "Today I want to enter dirt land" - things you can say when dialing in your guitar tone, but also to your girlfriend..

  • @KyleBronkington
    @KyleBronkington Před 3 lety

    My favorite tone is my Mooer preamp live emulating an ENGL Blackmore with a Maxon 808 overdrive going through the Rattlesnake IR from your Eminence Metal IR pack! It sounds amazing!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      Good to hear people also go for the Rattlesnake. I was afraid it might be too bright.

  • @Buttface1981
    @Buttface1981 Před 3 lety +1

    I’ve recently been playing with a similar idea. I have the Old Blood Noise Haunt Fuzz and drive it with a Behringer SF300. I use the mix knob on the Haunt to blend to taste. Just waiting on delivery of my Oh My Goat ;) to blend that in place of the SF300

  • @JoelGilardini
    @JoelGilardini Před 3 lety

    cool you're using that Brunetti XL! I used to have the XL Revo2, it was an amazing amp!

  • @TheSPY1997
    @TheSPY1997 Před 3 lety +1

    When you played the first chord on the Okko pedal with the Kaput turned up, I immediately made a stank face. That sounded incredible.

  • @KrachWerke
    @KrachWerke Před 3 lety +1

    I find some, especially cheap, fuzz pedals work great into gain channels as boosts. Fuzz/drive all the way down, tone just over 12 o'clock, volume up. It has a similar effect as the tone in your video. Acts like a tube screamer but with a bit more grit. Instead for a tube screamer in front of a fuzz a top boost or mid boost also tames the fuzz bottom end well.

  • @Patrick-857
    @Patrick-857 Před 3 lety

    The trick is to use a cranked mid boost before the fuzz with the fuzz gain backed off a bit. Hard clipping is still hard clipping, but it will tighten up the bass some.
    I have gotten a pretty passable metal tone with a Rat boosted in this way, although the Rat isn't a fuzz, more of a distortion, and the Big Muff works in a similar way if you want a thick and scooped distortion. Big Muff typically wrecks your bass like a fuzz, but mid boosting cleans it up.

  • @lukeguppy1030
    @lukeguppy1030 Před 3 lety

    Hey man reminds me of downs 3rd album over the under tone that I love
    dirty yet still punch and some clarity cool for more bluesy metal!

  • @CrushingAxes
    @CrushingAxes Před 3 lety +1

    1:14 dude the riff is amazing !!!!

  • @Heisenhuegel
    @Heisenhuegel Před 3 lety

    very interesting topic. this is exactly the subject i'm dealing with and I also had to realize that the nice bruzzliger fuzz and a tightly distorted sound somehow don't go together. But the first sound you played came very close to that.
    I play an Engl Ironball and I think it has something doomy about it. I've experimented a little with a TCElectronic Rusty Fuzz and the "famous" Super Fuzz from Behringer and when the Rusty is easily integrated into the lead channel, the whole thing is pretty cool. Tc's mojojmojo overdrive has something fuzzy too.
    My goal is to get an early Black Sabbath sound on steroids. A Sound between Stoner like Bongzilla and the tightness like every modern Metal Band xD.
    A tight bruzzler ;)
    The only sound of what worked roughly for me is Nola from Down. It's an amazing sound. A mix of harsh modern distortion with a retro-oldschool-blusy-fuzzy sound. It has the hardness of modern metal but also a lot of warmth. And warmth is the thing that i miss in typical metal Sound

  • @djinferno8690
    @djinferno8690 Před 3 lety +4

    i was actually just considering running a "metal distortion" through a fuzz face and vice versa to see what i end up with. might update later if its got good results.

  • @rileywest4900
    @rileywest4900 Před 3 lety

    Always love your videos, this ones no exception! Excited for all the new content

  • @MrMonster613
    @MrMonster613 Před 3 lety

    I really love your channel and how you work and think, I am all about unconventional recording and doing something crazy as Sylvia Massy and here you have so much great stuff! Thank you and keep rocking!

  • @rk28984
    @rk28984 Před 3 lety

    Intro Sounds awesome!
    I used a Fuzz (Blackout Effectors Blunderbuss Fuzz) as a boost for years. Last summer I also used a Behringer SF300 on the Fuzz 1 setting alongside a HM2 clone in the studio to get a really disgustingly awesome tone for a part of a song.
    If you want to use a Fuzz for a metal tones I would suggest to use it as a boost like a Tubescreamer, Fuzz pedals have more character tough.
    The Behringer SF300 on the boost setting is a damn nice OD pedal as well, sounds way better than the 23€ it costs!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety

      I agree that the SF300 is great fr the money. Just too muddy and fuzzy for what I was looking for in this video.

    • @rk28984
      @rk28984 Před 3 lety

      @@KohleAudioKult A friend uses a Earthquaker Dervices Cloven Hoof for his Grindcore band, sounds massive!

  • @XlouietheflyX
    @XlouietheflyX Před 3 lety

    For a fuzz (I mainly use fuzz for bass) I have an MXR Super Badass Variac Fuzz, which allows you to adjust volume and voltage. Has a lot of tones in it.

  • @RobbieTayVaughan
    @RobbieTayVaughan Před 3 lety

    Good stuff man! I was having trouble as well getting an articulate enough tone trying while still being massive and fuzzy. I now use 2 amps. 1 with super extra fuzz and lows and the other with a tight modern tone and blend the volumes. Each through a 2x12 (:

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      Interesting. I’m sure this sounds great live, but might introduce a lot of phase problems in the studio. At least if you just record one take.

    • @RobbieTayVaughan
      @RobbieTayVaughan Před 3 lety

      @@KohleAudioKult thanks for your reply! My aby pedal has phase switching and ground lifts on each output to help with that stuff. Cheers! from Tacoma, WA

  • @riffsnoleads
    @riffsnoleads Před 3 lety +1

    A lot of the gnarly overtones and nastiness you bring up are exactly why I love the Proco Rat and the HM2 so much. That Okko Black Beast reminds me a lot of a Proco Rat, would not be surprised if the circuit is similar.
    Gotta run that Grindstein in the crunch or lead channel for some proper chainsaw tone. Clean channels or power amps just can't quite get there. ;p

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 Před 3 lety

      Rats are amazing for doom sounds, and are super versatile. You can use it as a boost, you can boost it, you can use it like a fuzz, or you can use it as a distortion. On of the greatest dirt pedals. Big Muffs are awesome too. I have a standard Big Muff, but I also have a Mojo Hand Colossus, which is a Big Muff on crack with a mid control and a 3 position switch for low end shape. It's rough, chaotic and grinding, but the low end is big, thumpy and tight almost like a metal pedal, and mids allow you to solve the Muff getting lost problem. It's got far more character than any amp distortion.

  • @hlrossato
    @hlrossato Před 3 lety +1

    The second riff sounds like some In Flames from the old days! You got me already at that point! Great content as always!

    • @debuenzo
      @debuenzo Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, def in flames and soilwork vibes from early/mid 2000s. Good ear!

  • @danireych
    @danireych Před 3 lety +2

    That was fun and inspirational, as always. I feel Will Putney does a good job in getting more distortion and mayhem into modern extreme metal, for example on The Sea of Tragic Beasts by Fit For An Autopsy.

  • @toemasmeems
    @toemasmeems Před 3 lety

    Also that tone is amazing and the pictures of sausages cooking really needs to be a channel in itself

  • @ForTiorIJohnny
    @ForTiorIJohnny Před 3 lety

    i just got me the Jive pedal. it´s awesome. adds really interesting textures to your tone. and it seems the LED has been adressed. mine isn´t that bright at all. thanks for the suggestion, Chris.

  • @nikht0
    @nikht0 Před 3 lety +2

    To tame the lows it might be interesting to try some multiband distortion pedals and/or a combination of different pedals run in parallel through a high/low crossover pedal.

  • @SpectreSoundStudios
    @SpectreSoundStudios Před 3 lety +120

    Second!

  • @kylecalandrelle7209
    @kylecalandrelle7209 Před 3 lety

    I've been adding disgusting octave fuzz just over top certain riffs in my productions lately and I love it. Really adds another layer of brutality. Sick video brother, as always. Happy New Year 🍺💪

    • @Cryptic_Goathammer
      @Cryptic_Goathammer Před 3 lety

      Would you recommand applying it both to guitar and bass ?

    • @kylecalandrelle7209
      @kylecalandrelle7209 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Cryptic_Goathammer I don't add octave fuzz to bass but I do add some chainsaw fuzz to some bass at times. Really pushes the mids forward. Like 1k. 🤘

  • @electricmeatpuppet
    @electricmeatpuppet Před 3 lety +2

    Would love to see you do a video on running your guitars through a bunch of household appliances and other crazy shit... light bulbs, drill, vibrator... things I'm sure you've got laying around the studio haha

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety

      Holy shit! How do I do that?

    • @electricmeatpuppet
      @electricmeatpuppet Před 3 lety

      @@KohleAudioKult I believe you split and divert the speaker out cable into different types of lighbulbs (as a resistor - compressor basically) and then back into the cab... or other appliances for different sounds... Id do a little research first, but sounds like you might be about to have some fun man!
      Keep up all the great work man, much appreciated. You're a legend brother!

  • @AlexeySolovievMusic
    @AlexeySolovievMusic Před 3 lety

    Awesome video! Thank you so much Kristian!

  • @JeffBarberDigideus
    @JeffBarberDigideus Před 3 lety

    Nice! This pretty much confirms a lot of my approach to distortion and fuzz when playing Doom. When you engage the Black Beast, its reminiscent of a Marshall Mode 4 head distortion. Its the reason not a lot of people liked it for pure high gain, but it has that same "fuzzed up" quality. I use a Mode 4 for playing Doom metal for that very reason. The problem for me with purely fuzz based doom tones (typically Orange amp clean channels with a black russian Big Muff or Proco Rat in front of it) is that you lose the palm mute "crunch". Having a tube screamer or boost in the mix can bring that back, but hearing this, im hearing the same dirty distortion qualities as my MF350.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      Don't remember the Mode 4 was that fuzzy! Interesting. Maybe I should try it!

  • @zombiemachinery4868
    @zombiemachinery4868 Před 3 lety +2

    Boy, that was a nice fucking riff at the beginning. It gave me some In Flames vibes.

  • @sludgeon
    @sludgeon Před 3 lety

    Also for fuzz pedals it's Black Arts Toneworks, Pharaoh being the most recognised from his offer, but in general the guys has his fuzz, dirty distortion game on point so picking other pedal from him might do it for you. Or his cooperation with DOD, Boneshaker

  • @iaingill4879
    @iaingill4879 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the heads up, I just ordered a Jive pedal based on this video

  • @kicsisziszi
    @kicsisziszi Před 7 měsíci

    Great, that at 13:30 the harmonies are staying melodic.

  • @rodrigosallesguitar
    @rodrigosallesguitar Před 3 lety

    Great riffs and great tones!! \m/

  • @donperro2095
    @donperro2095 Před 3 lety

    I simply love the tone and sound produce with the Jupiter alongside other effects, reminds me of Old Swedish Death Metal!!!!

  • @NJSmithMusic
    @NJSmithMusic Před 2 lety

    Love using super low tuned with fuzz and a TS or Horizon Drive in front. Cut the boost off for leads and kick it back on for chugging and riffs

  • @cjbrewer3843
    @cjbrewer3843 Před 3 lety +1

    This is brilliant...personally I love fuzz....for bass. Not a fan for guitar by itself but this video is chock full of badass ideas

  • @ToroKchannel
    @ToroKchannel Před 3 lety

    interesting experiment, I do prefer the second attempt, but I find the first one sounds much better in the mix than with the guitar alone. My type of sound stands somewhere between Havok (especially their album 'time is up') and Pete Cottrell. Fat, precise, tight on the low end but not fuzzy at all :)

  • @jossmoerkerken5732
    @jossmoerkerken5732 Před 3 lety

    That speaker combo just awesome
    Can’t get enough of that brutal tone
    Haven’t been able to put my guitar down since giving it a try
    Keep tone advice coming 👍👍

  • @yeagerzombie
    @yeagerzombie Před 3 lety

    Im a big fan of fuzz, and I've had alot of success with getting dirty but usable tones by running a tube screamer style overdrive (I use a keeley red dirt) into a russian big muff style fuzz. I like the keeley dark side and the ehx nano Russian big muff.

  • @rocklives8251
    @rocklives8251 Před 3 lety

    I have been searching for the same thing. I use a Fuzzlord Troglodyte with a jhs series3 distortion or DOD 250 in front of it. Into a clean amp.
    I bought the Jupiter pedal, thanks for the discount

  • @MK-oz2lf
    @MK-oz2lf Před 3 lety +6

    the EMG is helping the signal stay tight and compressed but what about with passive pickups?

    • @rk28984
      @rk28984 Před 3 lety +2

      In my expereience fuzz pedals sound better with passive PU, EMGs can sound weird through fuzz. Even using a pedal with a buffer before a fuzz can make it sound like shit.

    • @dennismoes7281
      @dennismoes7281 Před 3 lety

      And not tot high output

  • @distortionclubla
    @distortionclubla Před 3 lety

    awesome vid as usual !!! just wanted to give a shout out to - after years and years of trying to find a fuzz pedal that matches the sound in my head - Old Blood NE’s Haunt Fuzz Pedal .. not sure if its the rectifier power section, but i never got a good fuzz tone on my mesa dr .. they all sound great on my JCM 800, but they all sound bad on my mesa.. the OBNE fuzz however changed all that.. would love to see how you would use the Haunt pedal - settings etc. .. thx vm

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo9733 Před 3 lety

    Dude you are just great!
    Pushing the envelope.
    Dispelling myths.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @vm7528
    @vm7528 Před 2 lety

    What always worked best for me is ProCo Rat into overdriven channel of my amp and fiddle with the filter knob to find the sweet spot. Lots of nice and good nastiness that way
    Also, for guitarists on the budget, EHX Metal muff alone sounds pretty great

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 2 lety

      Rat is great, I agree!
      The Metal Muff doesn’t really sound fuzzy to me though.

  • @jgmopar
    @jgmopar Před 3 lety +18

    I prefer the late 80's thrash metal tones.

    • @VortechBand
      @VortechBand Před 3 lety +12

      The thing is, that Marshall tone was the "5150+Rectocab+57" of its time :D

    • @joequesda15
      @joequesda15 Před 3 lety +1

      "The Brown Sound" Rip EVH

    • @JanXD
      @JanXD Před 3 lety +2

      And Justice For All has the best tube amp metal tone in my opinion. And Heathen's Victims Of Deception has an amazing tone as well.

    • @instrumentalist28
      @instrumentalist28 Před 3 lety +1

      Yep I love that old metallica kill em all sound.

    • @gibsondavis3255
      @gibsondavis3255 Před 3 lety +1

      @@JanXD yeah that's what i go for with any tone, maybe a little cleaner or a little dirtier depending on how i'm playing. Either that or nirvana style with a boss bass drive and a chorus but this is not the place for that tone haha

  • @Jayarbal
    @Jayarbal Před 3 lety +1

    @Kohle: Have you tried the Earthquaker Hoof Fuzz? I was wondering the same thing, I wanted to play tight rhythm with a doomier sound - and that was what I found after testing anything I could get my hands on. It allowed palm mutes with tight attack and a punching yet doomy bass - it's a lovely thing. I used it in front of an Orange Rocker (great amp), sounded great solo on the "clean-but-not-clean"-channel, and just roared on the dirty channel, without making it muddy and flat, still tight. And it doesn't lack in that typical fuzz sustain either. beautiful.

  • @darrelferns8969
    @darrelferns8969 Před 3 lety +5

    Proco Rat or a variant of it dialled in just right as a boost, works perfectly for that dirty nasty sound while still being articulate enough.

    • @plumbummusic2051
      @plumbummusic2051 Před 3 lety

      Basically Metallica on Kill 'Em All, except pairing with a good cab and diff mics would do wonders to make it sound miles better

    • @darrelferns8969
      @darrelferns8969 Před 3 lety

      @@plumbummusic2051 Yea apparently that was used. Morbid Angel as well, that whole sound is the rat into a Marshall.

    • @plumbummusic2051
      @plumbummusic2051 Před 3 lety

      @@darrelferns8969 Now you got me curious as I did not know that, any specific album or most of their stuff?

    • @darrelferns8969
      @darrelferns8969 Před 3 lety

      @@plumbummusic2051 I think every album. Certainly from Blessed are the Sick onwards. Every albums production is quite different, but if you listen to the guitars you can hear that trademark rat sound regardless of how different the albums sound.

  • @cronoscapo
    @cronoscapo Před 3 lety

    Great video as usual, greetings from Argentina

  • @B4its2L8guy
    @B4its2L8guy Před rokem

    I gave up on my expensive gear, when with cheap stuff and I love my tone now.

  • @dropGwolf
    @dropGwolf Před 3 lety +1

    15:49 LOL like a wet fart through a broken megaphone

  • @VTuberDestrisOfficial
    @VTuberDestrisOfficial Před 3 lety +1

    That sounded badass, might have to experiment with blending fuzz in.

  • @colincain7521
    @colincain7521 Před 2 lety

    Loving your videos🤘🏻I think the Revv G4 and the Big Muff is still the sickest sound so far that you put together. You should check out “The GigRig Wetter Box”

  • @secularspectator
    @secularspectator Před 3 lety +1

    Happy new fuzz year👍

  • @honestmusicreviews
    @honestmusicreviews Před 3 lety

    just bought the jptr micro jive saturator, thanks for the discount!

  • @williamsimpson5507
    @williamsimpson5507 Před 3 lety

    Love it! This is exactly the kind of thing I've been interested in. My main preamp is the Engl e530, which is great, but almost too clean and pretty.

  • @Pitchuga
    @Pitchuga Před 3 lety

    I haven't bought your IR pack cause i expect to win so.... 😁
    Fuzz is not really my thing but to each their own
    You really think outside the box and are very clear in your ideas, almost got into the fuzz thing.
    Have a great 2021
    Cheers man

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      Haha! Fair enough. I'll announce the winners on Sunday in a provate video. At least that's the plan.

  • @djay6651
    @djay6651 Před 3 lety +1

    I still use most of the rig I had in '95. A Rhoads EX-->FX69 Grunge-->FX40B-->Peavey Bandit Red Stripe 112. The Peavey replaced my '94 Marshall ValveState 8080 in '03.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Před 3 lety

      I use an FX86, a Bandit 65 and a Master Effects Martyr which is basically the preamp from that Valvestate as a pedal. Mind you, I use all of those things as preamps in front of a Mooer Radar instead of running the distortion pedals into the Bandit. I've also got a Crate GX and a Metal Zone... Apparently my tone is a mix of all of the 90s most hated gear.

    • @djay6651
      @djay6651 Před 3 lety

      @@skaldlouiscyphre2453 I hear ya. I actually can get a decent sound out of mine. It's definitely got a Swedish chainsaw vibe, even though my garage band played stuff like Sabbath, AuC and Godsmack.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Před 3 lety

      @@djay6651
      I think the Swedish chainsaw can work for sludgy/stonery stuff.

  • @Supertzar999
    @Supertzar999 Před 3 lety

    Well, I think I just dialed in the perfect fuzz for metal sound with 2 of my pedals. First in, a Keeley modified Turbo tube screamer with the gain maxed. That goes into a Russian Pickle fuzz (which is basically a beefed-up Big Muff) with the gain a little less than halfway. Sounds savage!

  • @nanoblsofficial
    @nanoblsofficial Před 3 lety

    Dude, your channel is awesome!!! I love it!!! Your channel, Silas Fernandes Channel and Spectre Sound Studios Channel are simply the best on entire You Tube!!! Keep Metal!!!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks man! And I agree, Silas and Glenn rule!

    • @nanoblsofficial
      @nanoblsofficial Před 3 lety

      @@KohleAudioKult and you too. I knew your channel by Silas, on his Greindstein pedal video. I Love your ideas and tricks for metal tones and mixing!! Thank you so much!!! Stay metal ever!!!

  • @saintlotus93
    @saintlotus93 Před 3 lety +1

    I know Knocked Loose uses the Way Huge Swollen Pickle on parts. Along with a 5150 and Duel Rec, and Mesa cabs, but just having that one change in pedals does help freshen up the tone a lot. They also throw some chorus on parts, which I'm really into. Like a heavier version of Zakk Wylde's tone.

  • @MyBichSustained
    @MyBichSustained Před 3 lety +2

    Should have called that pedal SUN IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND!

  • @XlouietheflyX
    @XlouietheflyX Před 3 lety

    I play doom metal, but my sound is closer to Aaron from Paradise Lost. I use a 25.5" scale Schecter super strat with 11-56 D'Addarios and the Bare Knuckle alnico Black Hawk pickup set into an MXR/CAE MC401 clean boost into the Crunch channel of a Peavey JSX, with a cab that has a mix of V30s and H75 Creambacks. I think the alnico Black Hawk is the secret. It has a combo of tight with a dirty low mid purr. Besides that I just have an MS-3 for effects in the loop. I also run an MXR M77 (SD-1 clone) into the Ultra channel of the JSX for the lead sound, with a delay from the MS-3. The only mod to the JSX is Tung Sol 6L6GC-STR quad with new SGRs. This works in well with a nastier sound from our other guitarist through the lead channel of a 6534+ and V30 412

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety

      Aaron is great! He is also using my Grindstein pedal by the way.
      Sounds like you should check it out too!
      Interesting setup. I should checkout the Creamback H. I didn't like the M though.