Timken bearing and seals now made in China Cheap Chinese junk no more USA
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2018
- I used to always consider Timken bearings the best. Its now hit and miss today if the bearing will be made in China or the USA. Timken is a total scam now. You are paying premium prices for something that is now made overseas. They are using the Timken name to rake in profits and in turn give you and inferior overseas product. If you found this video helpful or would like help fund future experiments. please donate below.
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My new purchase flowchart:
1. Is it made in the USA? If not...
2. Is it made ANYWHERE but China? If not....
3.
a. I don't need it
b. I'll make it myself
c. I'll pay someone to make it for me.
I'm done with China. I'll work harder and pay more. Keep doing that and the whole supply/demand thing will bring prices down a bit AND you help keep jobs in America.
Costs will never come..gotta pay those fat lazy coffee drinkin slob union workers their rudiculous salaries lmfao
People are saying the exact same thing about Moog. 50/50 split on which brand is better, though I'm getting the sense they all suck now.
The are producing i USA ,France,Poland ,China ,Taiwan ,Brasil basically everywhere Like any other brand .But their quality is really Good
times are changing ,,greed is ruling supreme in todays companies
News flash. Greed has always ruled companies. It's called capitalism. Which I prefer to any other economic system, by the way.
All top of the line parts are made in China now. People always complain and say "this brand sucks get this one instead". All that shit is made in china everything is a gamble nowadays!!
I still use A LOT of the tools and appliances my grandfather bought back in the 1970's MADE IN USA! I WILL NOT let them go after personally trying and seeing others try some of the made in CHINA JUNK that's contaminated the shelves in stores like walmart, harbor freight, etc etc ...heck what stores aren't mainly promoting china junk anymore??? We were LIED to with their advertisements which said "Same Quality And Dependability But At A Lesser Cost" but these china businesses don't give a sh-t if they endorse GROSSLY HYPED UP ADVERTISING or if they get thousands of negative reviews... they just care about meeting a quota in a given time and flush quality control parameters down the sewer instead of their chintzy products!
Here's what harbor freight most often sells: DISPOSABLE CHINA-MADE JUNK! We can't count the number of times we had bought from here and the item came in it's factory sealed retail box BUT missing fasteners and other parts, holes drilled so far off that couldn't get the bolts through one side and lined up with the other, paint started chipping or pealing right from the start or not long after using them, stating they can handle much higher loads than reality allows, tires that wouldn't stay inflated, power tools that started smoking right out of the box or not long after they burned up with normal use.
About the only thing we see now that is pretty well made, for the most part, are things like wrenches and sockets, and some of their pliers seem decent-good BOTTOM LINE, you're better off saving up just a little more and getting a tool/appliance that's guaranteed to get the job done and last for MANY years versus buying china and it breaking right in the middle of having to get a job done!
I am now looking for rakes, yard implements at antique type stores to replace the warped broken Home Depot crap I've used & broken.
Yep. Had a USA made zenith 19 inch tv for nearly 30 years before it crapped out even had a better picture quality than a Samsung "high def" tv I bought 5 years ago. But zenith decided to go with cheap labor, moved to Mexico and they're defunct now. Hmmm......wonder why?
Manufacturing Excellence
Timken worldwide quality standards are
implemented in every manufacturing
facility, so each bearing meets the
same performance standards -
no matter where in the world it is
manufactured.
Bullshit!
@@jarrodarnett8296 Nope, it's true. Check it out if you like. If you use Timken steel and Timken machines to make Timken Bearings etc then it does not matter where in the world it is being processed.
This is very true, and while I can't stand that they send it to China to be made its still made to the same exact standards, down to the steel used and tolerances.
Your right same quality, cheap labor. Evil company needs excessive profits at the expense of human beings. In fact overseas plants have higher tech machines.
@@neildobie4094 your right who gives af where it's made fock American workers fock our own people.
Thanks for the heads up! I ordered NSK made in Japan this time
I specifically ordered Timken Fafnir bearing for my Snapper mower FOR a BETTER closer tolerance bearing, I had already ordered the Rotary sst Z9504A equivilent and decided to NOT use them because China marked on them, expected that BUT the 42" twin blade deck is more of a pain to rebuild and since I got a NEW deck, NEW spindles & housings I'd figured I'd pay extra for a QUALITY bearing, well I got my Timken bearings in and they are marked Made in China, I may send them back.
Funny you hand picked a few products. I always use TIMKEN and just purchased a overhaul bearing set from TIMKEN and it’s contents is 100% MADE IN USA I talked to a TIMKEN engineer last year at the OHIO headquarters, and he told me that about 96% of all TIMKEN bearings are made in the US with the exception of low production bearings.
U are correct,timken has plants in NC and SC and headquarters are in Ohio..
so the timken factory in china is a fraud and they can use low cost material?
Do you still think this is true after doing your research? Everyday I see more Timken stuff made overseas. Why are they charging American made prices for something made overseas?
I bought two Timken bearings from Amazon. The box says made in Japan. Except I got two different styles of bearings and one was labeled China on the bearing. I think someone pulled the old switcharoo on Amazon and it got passed to me somehow. So of course I filed a complaint and requested for a new bearing to be sent to me. I know Timken is owned by Koyo which is also a Japanese brand. I have heard of some bearings made in Europe but I always wonder if there are fakes floating around.
I have some timkin. Bearings made in the USA and there sealed in aluminum cans with oil in them.
i just bought one for my toyota it was made in japan
Someone stole my friends exhaust system and setup to make it in China. He found out and had one sent to him. It was higher grade aircraft aluminum with machine welds for less than he can make them. He now has his parys made in china. Talk all we want of how proud we are but the money hungry business leader people at the top in America are the reason things are so much cheaper from China and in many cases better.
I wish all things I bought were made here but I'd go broke trying to do that and in many cases things that say made in usa are simply built here from out of country parts.
they are a distributor with a strict quality control made in Korea isnt bad at all alot of todays manufacturing is done there vs china because they have better quality control its pretty common knowledge
USA is best. Is that why my 2005 Corvette all 4 OEM wheel bearings went out by 90k miles. While my 2000 Mitsubishi mirage with 368k miles original wheel bearings are still good.
I was surprised to see a plastic cage holding the rollers in my outer Timken bearing for my Camaro. I didn't know if plastic would survive the heat of a brake rotor. I guess we will find out.
I've had horrible experiences with Chinese made Moog hubs, they are complete garbage. I just bought a Timkin front hub for a 2016 Altima from Rock Auto and it's made in China. I hope that I won't being doing this one over.
How has the Chinese Timken held up?
@@dingbop963 So far, its good. The car belongs to a family member, so I'm able to keep track of it.
I guess I got lucky with Timken over the last 20 years, to last year as I have replaced all of my 5 travel trailer wheel bearings as well as my Silverado 2500 rear wheel bearings with Timken and every single Timken bearing I install had "made in USA" stamped on them! Go figure!
They still are Bucyrus Ohio made in USA also in canton Ohio and in the Carolinas they also have there own steel mill top grade American steel pay for what u pay for
@Bones McGillicuddy you don't believe it look it up bitch Timken bearing Bucyrus Ohio also
Timken still makes steel in canton Ohio. I’m in there all the time. But they don’t make there famed bearings anymore 😔
DON'T be fooled by the "Made In U.S.A." notations, if it's on a BOX or SEALED bag, then THAT object that is actually marked is probably made in the U.S.A. Manufactures have got wise and are relabeling or marking the CONTAINERS of the actual parts as "Made In USA" Some of this stuff is made offshore and then shipped in and packaged. I read recently chicken is leaving the U.S. going offshore, being reprocessed then shipped back in. CHECK the huge bags of Shrimp at Wal-Mart PRODUCT OF CHINA, wife was going to get some till I read that. I told her to NOT buy anything to eat from there.
numa newbern,
Well actually me n my wife have caught numerous companies being scandalous by labeling their product's box as Made In The USA, and then after a little research we found out the packaging itself was the only thing about their products that was made in the USA! They do this purposely for customers to think their product itself is made in USA and they get away with it because they can simply claim "well our boxes are made in the USA and so we didn't do anything illegal"
So dissapointed to know its made in china. I just bought timken last saturday to replace my waterjetpump bearings..so sad. I feel its a waste of money.
Timken bearings since 2008 no longer are made in Brazil.
Sad. Brazil has some good manufacturing and QA for manufactured goods. They make some good tools like knives, files, and firearms. Never had problems with their bearings in my Dodge, but now I'm lucky to get 30,000 miles (often less) on any of the imports from China. I know they can produce blah, blah, blah in ISO 1000 facilities, but they don't; after decades of suffering with it, I am wondering if it isn't intentional. Business majors, salesmen, and other thieves run US manufacturing where engineers used to play a major role.
Timken sources their seals. They MFR Tapper Roller Bearings and Hubs and have plants all over the world.
They still make bearings in the USA.
Made in China NO My Chinese Subaru Alternator lasted 3 months and the Chinese Starter lasted 1 year I put both of the used parts with 150K I removed back on
chinese timken is better then no name chinese ones.almost all bearings are made in china now
I was expecting some actual demonstration of performance or quality limits...
This is like the Pep Boys guy who didn't know anything but ensured me that he, "...doesn't mess around..."
Please...
That bad " China Junk" reputation was given to China by the West. China at any given moment can produce top quality down to bad quality.
It’s the Western, mostly US consumers, who think they can spend 5$ and get value for 10$. The foreign purchasing guys decided how much money they want to spend on x product and they made sure they are getting it. Our USA business mentality is when buyers complaint we can say, "these Chinese made junks" and blame the manufacturer, BUT when the buyers like the product, the companies praise themselves. When it's bad, blame China - when it's good, yup we run a good business. Look at Apple products - only says "Designed in California". They don't tell you where it's made. We ALL know where it's made - CHINA!
If someone shops at Walmart shouldn't expect Bergdorf & Goodman quality.
Well I kind of agree, over regulation has moved production over to China. China is leaving the US behind in manufacturing technology. Have you seen the smog in China? That's the trade off.
Well thats disappointing.
Where the fuck can I find wheel seals that will last longer than a year or two for my Bronco? All shit from China anymore!
Dodge industrial is only the one made in America that make bearings and mounts. Dodge is the best. Timken no longer make in America.. Make America great again.
You have incomplete and inaccurate information. First and foremost, it is illegal to import tapered roller bearing into the US from China. We do make some spherical roller bearings in China in an TIMKEN plant with TIMKEN employees held to actually higher standards than the US made product. The sourced steel is required to go through multiple inspection and is frequently tested for quality and cleanliness.
As for the seals, we do not own National but we do market their seals and have NO control over where they are produced.
Timken is a premium bearing manufacturer and our standards have not changed.
Why produce in China and not America?
@@fintechrepairshop Cheap labor cost, no OSHA or polution standards to make manufacture more expensive. The answer to why a company, any company does something is always this. Increase profit.
@@charlesm7589 I guess the point I was trying make was why pay more for the Timkin name when they are produced in same Chinese factories as the cheaper brands.
It's about jobs. If we dont support American and European jobs, we will find ourselves in a VERY bad place indeed.
@LAFOLLETTER You know, I actually agree with you. The senior managers aren't worth the money but the guys on the line are. Thise are the ones I care about getting a decent deal.
100% job
Exactly right. Timken is junk.
Taiwan is OK
turtleh Yes better than China.
son malos y punto
No facts provided in the video. Not all products produced in China are equal! Most manufacturers have been forced to move production elsewhere to remain competitive. Timken still has manufacturing and assembly plants in the U.S. and Canada. Products made overseas are held to the same standards and use the same materials as those produced in the U.S. Most made with materials from the Timken Steel Corporation. www.timkensteel.com/what-we-make Beware where you buy bearings though. There are counterfeiters out their selling fake bearings from all the major brands.
I'm guessing you work for Timken. I think you missed the point of this video. Moving to China was a greed move. More profits to be made.
Parts are made all over these days. Quality seems hit or miss no matter what brand. Moog has parts from china as well. No one is loyal. Yay capitalism…..really its plutocratic oligarchy. Always has been.
Socialism is no different then capitalism. In a socialist society the greedy companies are replaced with greedy corrupt government officials. Capitalism is still better.
What you are thinking is wrong about Chinese made products. How about iphone made in china. How about ford made in America but always breaks down😂
😝🇨🇳 vs ❤️🇯🇵❤️
Japan makes very good products. I love there feather shaving blades
Ok the Chinese aren’t as bad as they used to be. Stop with the whole “china sucks at making stuff”
Screw that dude, "premium" SKF bearings made in China just totally ruined my $180 spindles on my K20. They were only 5 years old.
No, they're still mostly pretty bad.
Fifthcell, Stop with the "It's pretty good stuff for the price" crap. It's still crap and the price has gone up, as predicted and expected. Besides, there are many other factors that make buying from an antagonistic sole-source foreign communist government that has a piss-poor record with labor and ecology a BAD choice. It's not just about saving for your next keg by buying Harbor Fright tools instead of SK or Wright. You really do get what you pay for!
Lol OK go try to dig a hole with a Chinese shovel. Just one lousy hole
Blame President Trump ,"Bring back America " yea right and when
Please don't be a doofus! It's a FACT that bill clinton signed the NAFTA agreement that GROSSLY OPENED up free trade with china and then SHORTLY afterwards china started FLOODING our country with their junk and so Trump IS NOT to blame...Trump is now FRIVOLOUSLY accused when IN FACT he is being given the problems that previous president started in the first place!
@@get-the-lead-out.4593 Trump makes his suits and ties in Ohio? no. Georgia? No. New York? No. China. He's a hypocrite.
Ross Perot warned us and we didn't listen.
@@charlesm7589 Do you know a politician who isn't? Is there a better politician who supports the US AND buys clothes made in USA? Incidentally, the textile industry was one of the first to be sold out, and it is harder to buy US-made clothes than it is to buy tools and car parts made here. So, maybe its harder to dress US than you think, even if you're a millionaire. We have to do better for US manufacturing and jobs.
@@charlesm7589 who fact checked that statement?