For long range shooters, especially competitive shooters, this is machine pretty much a must have. Takes the guesswork out of annealing which helps give you consistency, and consistency gives smaller groups. Yes, you can simply hold a case in a torch flame but I guarantee you will not get repeatability results regardless of how much "experience" you have. Same thing holds true for the Annealeze and other flame annealers. While they may be repeatable to a point, you are guessing on how long to leave the case in the flame, how fast to spin it, and where to have the flame contact the neck/shoulder. Each time you set it up can be different from the previous setup. If you want the best shot-to-shot consistency and the smallest groups possible at long range, then this is a valuable tool. If all you want to do is plink at 100 or 200 yards, then I'd agree it's overkill. Precision shooting is an expensive sport. I bought an AMP Mark II and I love it.
I must tell you gentlemen. I own a mark 2 for 3 weeks now and my velocities already started getting more consistant. I fired these 338 lapua cases for 67 times and anealed with a flame but my velocities just went inconsistant. So i anealed with the mark 2 and boom it closed up. Thank you gentlemen
I needed to anneal a batch of 80 6mmBR cases and just for the fun of it, I timed myself to see how long that would take. I took 11 minutes and 10 seconds to do it. Granted, my annealer was on the bench, plugged in and all set up to do 6mmBRs so all I had to do was grab a bunch that already had the primers knocked out and have at it. i had thought that it would take longer than that, so I was quite surprised with the small amount of time it took!
Just received my mark2 and love the Aztec mode, use it on my LC 7.62 brass I've turned into 6.5 creedmoor. Has completely stopped the cracking of the case neck after a couple of reloads. Pretty labor intensive to reform the brass and turn the necks, so stopping the cracks is a big plus.
John Barton Thank you so much.. my wife and I reload tons of .223, I’m excited to get this bad boy.. it will make a nice addition to the Dillon 1050👍🏻👍🏻
Mine arrived in November, gave up on the Giraud annealer as I could never get a good anneal with the flame and I tried everything. AMP makes it so much easier.
Thats now finished, I didn't see a indication did you? Watched a few times did the lcd indicate it was done I must of missed it I will watch it a few more times. Oh the start button has a light on it, I was watching the screen. That drove me nuts I watched it about 5 or 6 times. Thanks guys.
We have added a new feature which shows the status of the case. Now when you insert the case it will say READY, then when the annealing is finished it will show ANNEALED, when you take the case out, it will show EMPTY. You can see the video here: facebook.com/AMPannealing/videos/352719562002892/
One question. If I purchase a bag of 500 308 once fired brass, since they are all 308 but there are many headstamps and many lot numbers, do you need to destroy all of them calibrating or is simply calibrating one of the 308 cases good enough for annealing the rest of the bag?
Sorry, I agree with Honey Badger, way to much money and way to complicated for what is a very simple process and there are several units on the market for less than a third. I wonder if it was developed by an engineer?????????
@@embracethesuck1041 look at the video on how one of these are made and you will change your tune on price real quick. not only that but as in the video the machine literally can analyze your brass to give you the correct anneal every time. what other annealer can even come close to the technology in this unit?
Morten Breiland 750-800f will take 2-3 seconds . You’ll ruin brass if it reaches that temp. The bottom portion of the brass shall never reach 450 or more. It will made the head of the way to soft. If you get to get to 1000f you can burn away zinc out the brass neck and ruin it as a whole or over head the head of the case from head distribution sense brass is a very good conductor of heat
Amp annealing is made to get ur brass as soft as brand new factory brass so it has very consistent neck tension very time. Lots of pro shooters use amp anneal and some ELR shooters on CZcams like MarkandSamAfterWork use it and love . It’s quick and easy to use rather than a flame with tempilaq which can get tricky. I’m saving up to get myself one also as we speak. I
There isn't much difference in appearance between the "analysis" cases and the "annealed" cases and they definitely look overheated like the zinc has been burned right out of the "brass". Annealing also requires resizing the cases afterward and trimming is almost inevitable if the goal is "precision". Cases actually stretch down toward the head where the "taper" and "cup" shape more or less end because of the back-to-front travel of the flame front and pressure wave through the case and delayed "release" of the bullet regardless of neck tension. As the case material "balloons" to fill the chamber its stretched thinner and tighter and "light" neck tension from thin necks actually can end up causing higher "dynamic" neck tension than if cases are full-length sized so material from the area where taper and cup end "flows" all the way "up" the case to the shoulder and neck. A "standard" neck thickness and tension is more "precise" and durable and stable firing to firing than an out-of-spec, excessively thin and weak neck tension. And "insufficient" annealing is far superior to excessive, destructive annealing. Compare the "finished product" to "mil-spec" ammunition cases which are annealed for the final time during the case manufacturing process immediately prior to final sizing and loading with no post-sizing polishing and you'll see what properly-annealed "brass" that was annealed purely for "stress relief", softening of work-hardened "brass", decreased wear and tear on the "loading" dies, maximum "precision" in the "raw" cases so the inevitable differences in tooling "downstream" have minimal effect and most importantly to de-grease and dry the cases, looks like. And you'll find it looks nothing like the silvery-gray and "chalky" looking necks and shoulders these "perfect" annealers are producing. Obviously "analysis" consists of some sort of "sensing" of the "temperature" of the brass and probably via infrared "thermometer". Unfortunately "shiny" and work-hardened "brass" is a reflector of heat in both "directions" and induction is an "inside out" process so by the time the hard, shiny and polished outer "shell" of a cross-section of "brass" (the inside of cases is "annealed" with every firing) is hot enough to radiate the "correct" amount of heat to trigger the "thermometer", the inner, softer and thicker portion is way too hot to the point of incandescence. Which literally means "red hot". Zinc has very "low" "triple points" compared to copper. So does tin. And "pure copper" that's been heated to incandescence in the presence of oxygen and "held" at that temperature long enough to literally begin "burning" has that "chalky" silvery color like...ashes. The other issue with that kind of "analysis" is that every firing "carburizes" the brass somewhat. Some of the "brass" is vaporized and/or oxidized away and is replaced with "carbon" inside where it can't be seen. Which is why although case weight may remain constant until cases are trimmed, case "content" and density of the "brass" does not. And carbon has very "high" triple points relative to "brass". But less "brass" remains after each firing. So using the same "program" - which is nothing but a "elapsed time" between "start" and "stop" probablty "precise" to "microseconds" a two- or three-digit "meaningless" program "code" is assigned to or vice versa - for the same "lot" of cases will tend to cause even "worse" over-annealing as time goes on. But fortunately for the manufacturer, once the "brass" has been "burned" the first time it won't look any MORE "burned" subsequently. Clearly this "perfect" annealer was designed, engineered and "programmed" in a country where "mil-spec" ammunition is not available to the "general public" and is not marketed toward "range scroungers" or purchasers of factory new "mil-spec" ammo or "scrap" mil-surp "brass" that hasn't been "cleaned" prior to retail sale as "once-fired" brass or people who have "invested" in the product would know its a "brass burner".
Thankyou for taking interest in our product. You can find out more about the studies we have conducted on annealing by reading our extensive articles here:www.ampannealing.com/articles/
@@rooftopvoter3015 Funniest part is all you supposed satisfied customers here watching this infomercial for a product you supposedly already know, own and love and shilling for it in the comment section over and over trying to sell it to complete strangers. Especially when this is the "new and improved" version of a product that "went public" years ago.
@@dahut3614 Are their lots of 8th graders doing "Arduino projects" these days? "Shop class" isn't exactly "college prep" these days and most "STEM" subjects and classes are unfortunately and increasingly "theoretical" rather than "practical". And "Arduinos" are hardly "state of the art" as far as modern hardware and software go for "computer command and control".
@@deeremeyer1749 I guess it depends upon where you live or maybe it was 9th or 10th grade? The school bought them and they can't just throw them away and buy Raspberry Pis when they have to spend all that money to educate the hoardes of undocumented immigrants. Arduino is cheap and can easily do a lot of things quickly without a lot of hardware design. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see one in this machine.
For long range shooters, especially competitive shooters, this is machine pretty much a must have. Takes the guesswork out of annealing which helps give you consistency, and consistency gives smaller groups. Yes, you can simply hold a case in a torch flame but I guarantee you will not get repeatability results regardless of how much "experience" you have. Same thing holds true for the Annealeze and other flame annealers. While they may be repeatable to a point, you are guessing on how long to leave the case in the flame, how fast to spin it, and where to have the flame contact the neck/shoulder. Each time you set it up can be different from the previous setup. If you want the best shot-to-shot consistency and the smallest groups possible at long range, then this is a valuable tool. If all you want to do is plink at 100 or 200 yards, then I'd agree it's overkill. Precision shooting is an expensive sport. I bought an AMP Mark II and I love it.
ive just had my second session with my mark 2 its simply amazing! worth every cent!
I just got mine and I have to say it is really nice to have a perfect anneal every time.
I must tell you gentlemen. I own a mark 2 for 3 weeks now and my velocities already started getting more consistant. I fired these 338 lapua cases for 67 times and anealed with a flame but my velocities just went inconsistant. So i anealed with the mark 2 and boom it closed up. Thank you gentlemen
The same lapua brass for 67 times!?
@@StevenPfeiffer yes 6700 shots with the same brass its also not hot loads mild loads
That’s impressive. I’ve never gone passed 20 loads. I wonder how many more loads past 67 times you can do before the webbing stretches too thin?
@@StevenPfeiffer thats what im checking at this stage ill make some messurements and give feedback
What did you end up getting to? A 100? How many grains under book max for the reloads?
Just ordered my Mark 2 today. Can't wait to get this machine.
I needed to anneal a batch of 80 6mmBR cases and just for the fun of it, I timed myself to see how long that would take. I took 11 minutes and 10 seconds to do it. Granted, my annealer was on the bench, plugged in and all set up to do 6mmBRs so all I had to do was grab a bunch that already had the primers knocked out and have at it. i had thought that it would take longer than that, so I was quite surprised with the small amount of time it took!
Using it as I'm watching this video. Excellent!
Absolutely incredible, this will definately be on the purchase list...
Love my Mark II Annealer. I have run two batches of 100 each and each and every piece is truly perfect.
Picked one up a few months ago. Yes it’s an expensive purchase. But the best investment I’ve made for reloading.
Just received my mark2 and love the Aztec mode, use it on my LC 7.62 brass I've turned into 6.5 creedmoor. Has completely stopped the cracking of the case neck after a couple of reloads. Pretty labor intensive to reform the brass and turn the necks, so stopping the cracks is a big plus.
How has it been working for you? I'm thinking about buying one of these, would you still recommend it?
@@WalkingCoyoteBear yes I would,I reload 6.5 creedmoor,300WM,and 338LM and have already seen the difference in the quality and life of my brass.😀
Get one. I do 50 BMG, 30.06 and .223 and all come out perfect.
John Barton Thank you so much.. my wife and I reload tons of .223, I’m excited to get this bad boy.. it will make a nice addition to the Dillon 1050👍🏻👍🏻
Rooftop Voter pure awesomeness.. I’ll put my order in at my local distributor
This is incredible. I need this!
i got my AMP Mark 2 coming next week, have the auto loader here, and got the dillon case feeder --- sorry Giraud goodbye, welcome AMP!!!
Mine arrived in November, gave up on the Giraud annealer as I could never get a good anneal with the flame and I tried everything. AMP makes it so much easier.
Great video!!!
Intriguing. Might need one of these.
Love mine
Is it just me or is the 50 cal case shoulder damaged when its taken out? It looks like there is a split in the shoulder.
it was damaged before annealing.
Thats now finished, I didn't see a indication did you? Watched a few times did the lcd indicate it was done I must of missed it I will watch it a few more times. Oh the start button has a light on it, I was watching the screen. That drove me nuts I watched it about 5 or 6 times. Thanks guys.
We have added a new feature which shows the status of the case. Now when you insert the case it will say READY, then when the annealing is finished it will show ANNEALED, when you take the case out, it will show EMPTY.
You can see the video here: facebook.com/AMPannealing/videos/352719562002892/
I love this thing.
One question. If I purchase a bag of 500 308 once fired brass, since they are all 308 but there are many headstamps and many lot numbers, do you need to destroy all of them calibrating or is simply calibrating one of the 308 cases good enough for annealing the rest of the bag?
Sorry, I agree with Honey Badger, way to much money and way to complicated for what is a very simple process and there are several units on the market for less than a third. I wonder if it was developed by an engineer?????????
it may be simpler to go cheaper but it will be far less consistent most precision shooters who really want "precision" require consistency
Wonder how much this thing costs? Looks like an arduino, induction coil, relay and thermometer.
Holy crap, over a grand! Good idea, limiting your market way too much by that pricetag.
@@embracethesuck1041 look at the video on how one of these are made and you will change your tune on price real quick. not only that but as in the video the machine literally can analyze your brass to give you the correct anneal every time. what other annealer can even come close to the technology in this unit?
Hallo, leider keine deutsche Anleitung, für 50 BMG Hülsen, schade.
I didn't see in the video any indication that the case was finished, what is the indication that the case is ready to be removed?
The red light on the START button will go out and the ANNEALED message will display on the screen.
@@annealingmadeperfect1257 thank you for answering my question. Where in Nevada is your distribution center? I live in Las Vegas NV.
Am I right if I claim that the temperature of the brass must rise to approx. 1000° f for such a short time to reach the correct softness?
Morten Breiland 750-800f will take 2-3 seconds . You’ll ruin brass if it reaches that temp. The bottom portion of the brass shall never reach 450 or more. It will made the head of the way to soft. If you get to get to 1000f you can burn away zinc out the brass neck and ruin it as a whole or over head the head of the case from head distribution sense brass is a very good conductor of heat
@@brandonrastello7097 Interesting, so all cases annealed with AMP are destroyed then? How do you think brass is made?
Amp annealing is made to get ur brass as soft as brand new factory brass so it has very consistent neck tension very time. Lots of pro shooters use amp anneal and some ELR shooters on CZcams like MarkandSamAfterWork use it and love . It’s quick and easy to use rather than a flame with tempilaq which can get tricky. I’m saving up to get myself one also as we speak. I
There isn't much difference in appearance between the "analysis" cases and the "annealed" cases and they definitely look overheated like the zinc has been burned right out of the "brass". Annealing also requires resizing the cases afterward and trimming is almost inevitable if the goal is "precision". Cases actually stretch down toward the head where the "taper" and "cup" shape more or less end because of the back-to-front travel of the flame front and pressure wave through the case and delayed "release" of the bullet regardless of neck tension.
As the case material "balloons" to fill the chamber its stretched thinner and tighter and "light" neck tension from thin necks actually can end up causing higher "dynamic" neck tension than if cases are full-length sized so material from the area where taper and cup end "flows" all the way "up" the case to the shoulder and neck. A "standard" neck thickness and tension is more "precise" and durable and stable firing to firing than an out-of-spec, excessively thin and weak neck tension. And "insufficient" annealing is far superior to excessive, destructive annealing.
Compare the "finished product" to "mil-spec" ammunition cases which are annealed for the final time during the case manufacturing process immediately prior to final sizing and loading with no post-sizing polishing and you'll see what properly-annealed "brass" that was annealed purely for "stress relief", softening of work-hardened "brass", decreased wear and tear on the "loading" dies, maximum "precision" in the "raw" cases so the inevitable differences in tooling "downstream" have minimal effect and most importantly to de-grease and dry the cases, looks like.
And you'll find it looks nothing like the silvery-gray and "chalky" looking necks and shoulders these "perfect" annealers are producing. Obviously "analysis" consists of some sort of "sensing" of the "temperature" of the brass and probably via infrared "thermometer". Unfortunately "shiny" and work-hardened "brass" is a reflector of heat in both "directions" and induction is an "inside out" process so by the time the hard, shiny and polished outer "shell" of a cross-section of "brass" (the inside of cases is "annealed" with every firing) is hot enough to radiate the "correct" amount of heat to trigger the "thermometer", the inner, softer and thicker portion is way too hot to the point of incandescence.
Which literally means "red hot". Zinc has very "low" "triple points" compared to copper. So does tin. And "pure copper" that's been heated to incandescence in the presence of oxygen and "held" at that temperature long enough to literally begin "burning" has that "chalky" silvery color like...ashes. The other issue with that kind of "analysis" is that every firing "carburizes" the brass somewhat. Some of the "brass" is vaporized and/or oxidized away and is replaced with "carbon" inside where it can't be seen. Which is why although case weight may remain constant until cases are trimmed, case "content" and density of the "brass" does not.
And carbon has very "high" triple points relative to "brass". But less "brass" remains after each firing. So using the same "program" - which is nothing but a "elapsed time" between "start" and "stop" probablty "precise" to "microseconds" a two- or three-digit "meaningless" program "code" is assigned to or vice versa - for the same "lot" of cases will tend to cause even "worse" over-annealing as time goes on. But fortunately for the manufacturer, once the "brass" has been "burned" the first time it won't look any MORE "burned" subsequently.
Clearly this "perfect" annealer was designed, engineered and "programmed" in a country where "mil-spec" ammunition is not available to the "general public" and is not marketed toward "range scroungers" or purchasers of factory new "mil-spec" ammo or "scrap" mil-surp "brass" that hasn't been "cleaned" prior to retail sale as "once-fired" brass or people who have "invested" in the product would know its a "brass burner".
Thankyou for taking interest in our product.
You can find out more about the studies we have conducted on annealing by reading our extensive articles here:www.ampannealing.com/articles/
Where can we get a annealing made perfect mod 2. Ican’t find it on midway or Brownells
Hi William, you can find our distributors list or the link to buy direct here:
www.ampannealing.com/distributors/
why do you have the 200$ AZTEC MODE UNLOCK KEY? seems the machine does it already?
koch the MARK II annealer comes with AZTEC included.
No question ,the machine is perfect but the price out of any logic for major part of reloaders 😂
great but really pricy still cool though
Dump background music!noise,distracting
Ridiculous dinosaur interface. Welcome back to 1975.
Best part is this: It works
@@rooftopvoter3015 Three buttons to rule them all! Just looks like an eighth grader's Arduino project, that's all.
@@rooftopvoter3015 Funniest part is all you supposed satisfied customers here watching this infomercial for a product you supposedly already know, own and love and shilling for it in the comment section over and over trying to sell it to complete strangers. Especially when this is the "new and improved" version of a product that "went public" years ago.
@@dahut3614 Are their lots of 8th graders doing "Arduino projects" these days? "Shop class" isn't exactly "college prep" these days and most "STEM" subjects and classes are unfortunately and increasingly "theoretical" rather than "practical". And "Arduinos" are hardly "state of the art" as far as modern hardware and software go for "computer command and control".
@@deeremeyer1749 I guess it depends upon where you live or maybe it was 9th or 10th grade? The school bought them and they can't just throw them away and buy Raspberry Pis when they have to spend all that money to educate the hoardes of undocumented immigrants. Arduino is cheap and can easily do a lot of things quickly without a lot of hardware design. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see one in this machine.