Bayonetta 2 | Balder moveset
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- čas přidán 4. 02. 2023
- Playable Balder here in pinned comment - • Bayonetta 2 - Playable...
If you don't want to do anything with your save0000.sav savefile, just rename new one into save0001.sav
If you see this video, I'm already recording 3rd climax casual walkthough (not aiming for PP this time)
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Bayonetta 3 really missed an opportunity making balder and Rodin playable with an actual moveset too
they are playable in tag climax, but the original idea of bayonetta 2 was that the main story was starred by both bayonetta and balder, they already had concepts for their torture attacks and everything, unfortunately they did not have the time or the budget to achieve it include it
Really missed an opportunity with Balder existing entirely
@@LuisHerrera-us6sy where was this said?
@@jklilly700 In an interview if I remember correctly, the concept arts of Balder's torture attacks can be seen in the game arts.
well technically in 3 you can play as Rodin LOL
2:39 "No one spins around the pole better than daddy!"-some alternate dimension Bayonetta
When I found this comment, you were at 69 likes. Nice!
Bayonetta: “I must have gotten my pole dance moves from my mother”
Meanwhile balder: 2:39
Such cool animations and character, shame he isn’t playable in main story
Actually now his is, via mods. It's why this training area was even usable in the first place. But yeah it would've been nice if the game itself had a dedicated section for him.
@@vadandrumist1670 he is SOMEWHAT playable. Chapters he can finish are few. Right now I'm uploading full game playthrough (3rd climax)..
@@sadpug9398 What is the roadblock? I can understand the surfing section breaking but not the others.
@@vadandrumist1670 prologue - he can't jump in the end of Verse 1.
Chapter 2 Verse 1 (use enemy arms Muspelheim) - he can't use enemy arms, if you start Verse 3 (dodge the wave and turn back) Loki will not appear again, and even if you skip Verse 3 he will still not appear on the other side.
Chapter 3 - in transition between surface and underwater phase punching the face of angel is infinite.
Chapter 5 - no swimming form.
Chapter 8 - you can't jump into the alternate gravity thing.
Chapter 9 - Loki doesn't even appear to spawn the pole
Chapter 13 - he can't lift statues to trigger witch time/lumen swiftness to run on water.
@@sadpug9398 On the plus side we have chapters 1, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, and 16 working just fine, right? Over half the game, not bad at all.
Well, it took 9 years and a mod. But he's finally playable
2:35 Male Bayonetta in an alternate universe:
If only that was in Bayo 3.
Game still looks amazing to this day.
Bayo1 is great game with great visuals and bad filter (fixable by reshading).
Bayo2 is great game with exellent visuals even after 8 years.
Bayo3 requires visual and gameplay remake from the scratch since day 1.
@@sadpug9398 B2's gameplay was weaker due to the over reliance in Umbran Climax to make things even flinch, and the inclusion of Demon Slave was really fun in B3, but yeah the visuals were very "eugh" even in the trailers 😅
@@lowhp_comic I was under the impression that it was simply beta footage when the first trailer dropped, so there was ample time for the devs to work around the visuals more to make the game more polished before release.
Unfortunately, apart from a few adjustments to the shading engine, the game just doesn't look very good, and the switch is a system more powerful than the wiiu.
@@sadpug9398 and story remake
@@sadpug9398u’re wrong B3 has the best gameplay of the 3 games (I agree on the visuals and how they handeled the story tho)
“ The power of a sage is infinite” 💀
Daddy!
Bayonetta 3 dropped the ball ....they gave us this new witch instead of a lumen sage
High key could have been a Male child who has Lumen propensities.
Maybe one day we’ll get a Bayonetta game where we can play as a Lumen Sage in the main game.
Or maybe a game that shows more about him and Rosa.
maybe on the next switch successor, platinum gotta give us reason to play these games again specially jeanne i hope she is playable in story mode in b3
@@tiwitiwi6202 Oh god no. It’s too soon! The switch has been enough already!
They clearly half-assed some of his animations, but even so he looks like fun. Here's hoping that a real fleshed out Lumen Sage is playable in some future Bayonetta title
If they were to redo things I'd say the Lumen Sage should be a mix of this and Viola's (garbage mechanics aside) kit. I feel like the Lumen Sage shines in its differences, so having a sprint instead of a panther and using barriers as platforms instead of butterfly wings/crow within would increase the distinction. Just imagine if Viola used feathers instead of darts, light instead of darkness, and additional elemental-type effects and spells instead of the Cheshire combo moves.
@@vadandrumist1670
Fun fact, viola's darts are an almost exact copy of how the feathers worked! Only difference is the number viola throws is always consistent while Baulder's goes 1 feather, 2, 3, then 4 before resetting to 1 again. Its a throw combo.
what are you on? balder's animations look hella cool
since balder weapon's throws a bigger version of it in certain moves and it vanishes after he uses it we can say that its an actual living angel rather than a crafted weapon from an angels parts... also love how since balder is a lumen sage he's more layed back when he moves/taunts since well they are holy beings. (that says differently tho since he made bayonetta with rosa...😳😳)
I'd say it's more that they're suave and masculine to contrast the Witches sexy and feminine poses, which is also why I find the Sages interesting as complete moveset counterparts to the Umbra
Some of Bayonetta’s weapons also do this.
He needed to be on Smash Bros.
I appreciate this video, I was never able to find a clear moveset video of Balder until this notification popped up
You couldn't find it because 19 hours earlier it was impossible
I'm so upset that Balder wasn't even referenced in Bayonetta 3 or Bayonetta Origins. He would've been fun to play as in a main story. We've been robbed. ;__;
I wish made like some kind of side game that shows more about him and Rosa.
@@roguejester4986 I would pay for THAT kind of Bayonetta origin story!
He has at least one move where he summons the dragon angel like a wicked weave. I didn't see that in the video
He does it during his version of the Umbran Climax
Now we need a mod to turn off cutscenes and there we go:
Bayonetta 2: Special Edition Featuring Balder from Witch Hunt.
I was hoping we get more lore about the lumen sages and how their society function ...😢
He's really cool, hope they make more playable sages in the future
Clicked because Cama's art.
Stay for the delicious delicious gameplay 😍
When the unfinished characters end up being more fun than the polished characters
I'm so glad to see that Balder's character gets attention.
Nice vid!
A shame you don't get access to Balder's big spells or his energy blade while in climax, or using the button space freed up by not using charged punches or crow within.
So if I had a say in it, I'd make it so sages are tattooed as part of their lumen training, and that they're actually using those tattoos to summon angels, mirroring the hair-centric magic of the witches with a skin-centric one, which would make sense given sages spend a lot of time in the sun: They need their SPF.
Perfect reference for my Lumen Matron fan project
Great timing!
XD
daddy balder is such iconic/fun character to play! how platinum end up making viola such boring ugly character to play 💀
Viola is fun! The problem is too many enemies block physical attacks. 😫
@@britannic124 Also her witch time activation gets on my nerves 💀💀
this make my hatred for bayo 3 increases
HELP
They couldn't have Balder because he serves too much cvnt
Balder is the best
Part of me wonders if the only reason he and Rodin aren’t playable in the main story is because the scoring system doesn’t accommodate them very well. Realistically you would need to rebalance every chapter to be possible to pure platinum with them (although pure platinum seems to accomodate Rosa disproportionately more than Bayo/Jeanne already, so maybe this is moot?).
Also, I imagine they were unsure how to get around the issue of cutscenes. You definitely couldn’t just model swap them with Bayo without it being jank or weird.
There are some pretty simple solutions for these issues but I guess they just didn’t have the time/budget.
Idk about NSIC scoring, but if they simply gave Balder something like umbran spear, made him able to use enemy arms, gave him swimming form, and fixed scripts like gravity portals, or Loki dialog triggers, witch time triggering statues, he is completely potent for the main game. On 3rd climax I could get PP in Chapter 1, but messed up a little.
@@sadpug9398 oh interesting!
The easiest and simplest solution I can think of is they use Bayonetta during the Vlimax finishers and just skip thr cutscenes. This is under the assumption that the way you unlock him would have been similar for Jeanne in Bayo 1 - Platinum all chapters or a similarly difficult or at least tedious challenge. That would render needing him in cutscenes moot because by the time you unlock him you'd be skipping cutscenes to begin with.
@@sadpug9398 Doesn't Balder technically already have a version of Umbran Spear? It's been awhile since I've played Tag Climax but doesn't his forward+kick move teleport him to an enemy similar to Umbran Spear? Also, I'm certain that with the Witch Time statues they just have to trigger LightSpeed instead of Witch Time, otherwise it should function the exact same
Everything else though, yeah, he has a nearly finished kit just needs a tweak here or there, maybe an added combo or two, but he's functional otherwise.
@@narutoboy423 his "umbran spear" is far from it. It's heel slide with different animation. You can't travel with it vertically, and distance is fixed. And I have no idea how to do "don't touch the ground" muspelheims without umbran spear.
What you wrote about statues has no sense. He can't LIFT statues -> he can't use them.
But actually there is the way to finish every chapter with Balder, but it's pretty complicated
i wonder if lumen sages have pacts with angels like umbra witches do with demons??? my only questions is i wonder what their conditions are, umbra witches’ have the condition that their soul is to be sent to hell after they die, but for a lumen sage, being sent to heaven doesn’t sound like a punishment. maybe their condition is that they have to do some of the angels bidding, like how angels were commanding Jeanne on what to do in the first game
Their souls actually become cannon fodder for Worship and it’s apparently a huge “honor” that promises “eternal bliss”.
FINALY
I love how this was uploaded the just moments after CreativeHandle posted their video.
Nah, it was 19 hours after
The thumbnail:
He's just standing there *menacingly*
I know I am 6 months late by now, but he does have some moves you forgot or just did not know to show.
Like, pressing punch immediately after jumping (without directional imput) will do a skyward spin attack.
He does also have "bat within", but not as in doing a transformation, but he will just teleport-jump into the sky when nailing the bat-within timing, from what I can tell.
Is there a charge modifier for the Glaive attacks, or is that just for magic?
Balder does technically have bat but it’s more like viola’s from 3 where it looks like you get hit but still achieve witchtime/lightspeed.
Well, during my playthrough I noticed that, but it works weirdly - sometimes you get lightspeed, but still take damage.
@@sadpug9398 I’m guessing they never tweaked that bug with bat within until 3 because I know in 1 sometimes you still take damage with bat/moth so that could be it.
@@jickboi308 since I found video explaining forced bat within, I abused the hell out of it and I never took damage both in Bayo1 and Bayo2. Should be something Balder specific (and may be Rodin, but I didn't try him yet)
@@sadpug9398 I found it REALLY hard to use in B1 because the regular dodge had insane i-frames for it to trigger, whereas B2 and 3 I was getting them consistently
I feel like Balder was inspired by David Bowie.
Wish they had done more for his moves.
world best father balder (i seriously know that he's still bayonetta's father)
I wish the game let you replay with diffrent charaters rather than bayonetta but with infinte dodges
But this way they need to balance Balder and Rodin to be playable in actual game.
I mean dodging enemies are hard for Balder, you can only land 2 punches before lightspeed ends. Blocking enemies aren't that big of a problem.
For Rodin both dodging and blocking enemies are problematic. They can block charged attacks. And Rodin has no witch time at all, making dodging enemies literally unkillable
I like to call balders combo finishers "devine dives" maybe that's just me
Wish for 3 they added a playable lumen or even adult loki instead of the mess of a design that is Viola, the girl crashed against a clown's closet
So many random sword sounds lol
Wait how did you do this? What mod is this and how do you implement it?
In the description.
Where did you find the Save file in Cemu?
I swear what are even the words he says
DILF
Now do Rodin moveset
I downloaded the mod, but the game freezes when loading up my save file. Any idea how to fix this?
If you already use Cemu, I have no idea.
how are you doing this
He speak the chants in enoquian like bayo?
Echonies is a language of both angels and demons in the Bayonetta lore
i know this but im asking if he uses the same language enochian and yes he use
@@dantedetonados1 yes he does both Witches and Lumens are taught that language by the elders to talk to there summons beyond the normal call (that and to read and say the spells)
Wtf is that thumbnail 😂😂😂😂😂