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  • @JayForeman
    @JayForeman  Před 2 lety +6499

    At 3:42 we used the outdated term 'aborigines'. We apologise for not paying careful enough attention to our language, and we're sorry if we upset anyone. Thanks to those who have pointed it out - we always welcome feedback and will happily post corrections.

    • @bobbywilliam7440
      @bobbywilliam7440 Před 2 lety +511

      @Thomas Brookes it'd be the name of the tribe/culture being referred to
      if you wanted to refer to all tribes and cultures you could use 'indigenous' or 'oppressed' people

    • @tnfsg1866
      @tnfsg1866 Před 2 lety +492

      @@benwhiley9680 But it is an offensive term that had roots from the racist system back then. You wouldn't call a lower-IQ person a retard and a black person a negro, right?

    • @m136dalie
      @m136dalie Před 2 lety +450

      @Thomas Brookes Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander Peoples is the commonest used term here, especially in official settings. Indigenous works too. Or you could just refer to them by the group's name, in this case the Murrawarri people.

    • @FractalZero
      @FractalZero Před 2 lety +177

      @@benwhiley9680 oh piss off

    • @Thor-hu2wq
      @Thor-hu2wq Před 2 lety +612

      @@benwhiley9680 so you've decided to make a fool of yourself on the internet

  • @jrosenthal7111
    @jrosenthal7111 Před 2 lety +4413

    That 'map men men' caught me off guard.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... Před 2 lety +489

      I'm still waiting for them to lean themselves against the wall, and animate some maps saying:
      "Here are the men, and we're the map"

    • @ninjawarrior8994
      @ninjawarrior8994 Před 2 lety +175

      @@C.I... Men Maps Men Maps Men Men Men Maps Maps

    • @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806
      @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 Před 2 lety +46

      Mep man mep man mep mep mep man man

    • @gsurfer04
      @gsurfer04 Před 2 lety +33

      Identifying as a map is not a good idea these days.

    • @-atimes3-
      @-atimes3- Před 2 lety +28

      gave me a fucking heart attack

  • @Patterrz
    @Patterrz Před 2 lety +5347

    CZcams "how to" videos are getting a bit extreme nowadays

  • @evan
    @evan Před 2 lety +7305

    Wow I can't believe how big you guys have become to have George freakin Clooney in an episode of Map Men. GOOD GOING

  • @natalyabarton2205
    @natalyabarton2205 Před 2 lety +1411

    My unis “claim to fame” was declaring ourselves an independent country in 1980 to protest education cuts. The “Free Republic of Keele” declared themselves independent of the UK, made their own passports, had their own enforced border control and their own national anthem. Apparently, they sent a letter of state recognition to every nation and got a response from Cuba This one response meant that Keele University became its own seperate state away from the UK, literally within the borders of Keele Uni was a completely seperate country. This lasted all of 3 days until HM Army invaded Keele University and conquered the state to get it back into the UK

    • @clinton8421
      @clinton8421 Před 2 lety +287

      Those must have been three glorious days for the students of Keele University. If my school broke away from my country and declared independence as a sovereign state, I would be sure to have a hell of a time being a part of that movement.

    • @laurensutcliffe9081
      @laurensutcliffe9081 Před 2 lety +95

      I love how i lived 15 minutes away from the uni visited with schools but was never told this lmao

    • @capnkatie
      @capnkatie Před 2 lety +74

      @@laurensutcliffe9081 omg i live 15 minutes away too get out of my house

    • @mouf725
      @mouf725 Před 2 lety +17

      @@laurensutcliffe9081 same wtf

    • @12-343
      @12-343 Před 2 lety +73

      The fact it was Cuba of all places really says something.

  • @Discitus
    @Discitus Před 2 lety +3756

    The difference between South Sudan and others is that the country they broke away from recognized them. Sudan says there is a South Sudan, so nobody bothers to contest it.

    • @marcussantos2141
      @marcussantos2141 Před 2 lety +582

      that's just because george clooney convinced them

    • @jasonsilverman3125
      @jasonsilverman3125 Před 2 lety +36

      and oil

    • @j3011
      @j3011 Před 2 lety +312

      I was about to comment that! Nobody would bother discussing Kosovo if they were recognised by Serbia

    • @HyTricksyy
      @HyTricksyy Před 2 lety +52

      there's also an amount of territory at the border that belongs to neither country because neither want it.

    • @bluemountain4181
      @bluemountain4181 Před 2 lety +16

      @@HyTricksyy Abyei? I thought they both wanted it because there is oil there

  • @davidgustavsson4000
    @davidgustavsson4000 Před 2 lety +1014

    "Monopoly over violence" as opposed to the much more common "Violence over Monopoly"

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced Před 2 lety +20

      Then again there had been moments where wars almost did happened because of a bungled board game session.

    • @markwright3161
      @markwright3161 Před 2 lety +13

      @@FiredAndIced So, get a Monopoly board made for Forvik, Invite George Clooney over for a game, have a war with him and ta-da, Forvik is it's own country :)

    • @wonniewarrior
      @wonniewarrior Před 2 lety +11

      To quote Chief Wiggum "How do those Parker brothers sleep at night". This is after Officer Lou exclaimed "looks like another case of Monopoly related violence".

    • @larsnyman2455
      @larsnyman2455 Před rokem

      Comrade, every state has a “Monopoly over Violence”, in all of history

    • @nuxx1876
      @nuxx1876 Před 18 dny

      @@FiredAndIcedapparently one time at the soviet antarctic base Vostok Station, someone murdered someone else with an axe over a game of chess and ended up getting chess banned from all soviet/russian antarctic bases from that point on

  • @Unclep318
    @Unclep318 Před 2 lety +393

    As a Scotsman I recognise Forvik as an independent nation with a responsible governing body

    • @alex_mcburney
      @alex_mcburney Před rokem +24

      As an American, I also recognize the country of Forvik

    • @AA-hg5fk
      @AA-hg5fk Před rokem +8

      As Stuart Hill said, Forvik is part of the old Norse empire so he doesn't need the recognition of Scotland!

    • @Macaronesia
      @Macaronesia Před rokem +31

      I do not recognize Forvik, i think the Old Norse Empire still exists

    • @MC_Mega-Jessup
      @MC_Mega-Jessup Před 10 měsíci +8

      As a person with functional long-term memory, I shall recognize Forvik should I ever rewatch this video.

    • @davestrider4973
      @davestrider4973 Před 5 měsíci +3

      As a Forvikman I recognise Scotland as an independent nation with a responsible governing body

  • @zappawench6048
    @zappawench6048 Před 2 lety +75

    You sign off "Yours faithfully" when you began the letter "Dear Sir" or "Dear Madam". You sign off "Yours sincerely" if you began the letter with the person's name. In other words, the complementary close has to match the salutation.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 2 lety +7

      But what if I address the United Nations as a person? "Dear U.N.", that sounds pretty much like it needs "Yours sincerely"

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions Před rokem +1

      I didn't know that! Thanks for the comment!

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions Před rokem

      @@HappyBeezerStudios If we were to treat the UN as a person, good point! In any case, chances are that a country filling out a hypothetical recognition form would probably address it to the new country officer (like the one featured in this video), so the letter would begin with the officer's name and end with "Yours sincerely" anyway! Thanks for the comment!

  • @pavarottiaardvark3431
    @pavarottiaardvark3431 Před 2 lety +2065

    "Palestine, Taiwan, and Kosovo, to name but two and a half"
    Gold.

    • @bernatgarcia6348
      @bernatgarcia6348 Před 2 lety +23

      I didn't get it, can anyone explain??

    • @megarockman
      @megarockman Před 2 lety +403

      @@bernatgarcia6348 Palestine's situation right now is...*tenuous* regarding how well it is able to function as a state vis-a-vis its conflict with Israel (I'm trying not to drag that flame war into here). Kosovo and Taiwan, though not widely recognized diplomatically, function de facto as a state pretty much like any other UN member state with wide diplomatic recognition.

    • @brancaleone8895
      @brancaleone8895 Před 2 lety +123

      @@bernatgarcia6348
      half of palestine is in control of isreal

    • @pavarottiaardvark3431
      @pavarottiaardvark3431 Před 2 lety +163

      @@bernatgarcia6348 All of those are 'states but not states, maybe, look, it's complicated' but giving a straight either way answer on any of them will piss off a LOT of people, so they neatly dodge it.

    • @AbdulRehman-wk3cs
      @AbdulRehman-wk3cs Před 2 lety +388

      @@bernatgarcia6348 He said 2 and a half instead of three so that it leaves you guessing about which one they only half-recognize, for example, if you're a nationalist Serb, you'll comfort yourself by thinking Jay doesn't recognize Kosovo, if you're a far-right Jew, then Palestine and so on

  • @hilotakenaka
    @hilotakenaka Před 2 lety +688

    Mark doesn’t need to worry
    The ad only lasted 2 minutes. That means that there he still has 4 minutes until countdown is on

    • @B3Band
      @B3Band Před 2 lety +11

      4 minutes*

    • @slimeytheslime363
      @slimeytheslime363 Před 2 lety +5

      @@B3Band If when they started the conversation there was 4 minutes remaining, then take away the 2 minutes they spent talking, they have 2 minutes left until its on.

    • @ClementinesmWTF
      @ClementinesmWTF Před 2 lety +3

      @@slimeytheslime363 calm down there Rachel Riley

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 2 lety +3

      @@slimeytheslime363 Bit there were _six_ minutes remaining when they started the conversation at 2:04. 6-2=4

    • @slimeytheslime363
      @slimeytheslime363 Před 2 lety +1

      @@timothymclean Ah, yes it would appear I'm an idiot, thank you for correcting me.

  • @vtndzn
    @vtndzn Před 2 lety +49

    SOUTH SUDAN!! I used the little pause you gave us to loudly show off the knowledge I got when I attended to the geopolitics class at the academy of sam o'nella in Delaware, hope you guys appreciate it

  • @XSpamDragonX
    @XSpamDragonX Před 2 lety +107

    I think it's totally cool for someone to get a back tattoo of the world map, as long as the map projection was chosen and aligned properly, and then track which countries you've visited by filling them in, as long as you don't go around showing it off to people.

    • @dexterjettster3683
      @dexterjettster3683 Před 2 lety +26

      I have a new conspiracy theory; either mark or jay is the person with the map tattoo and they keep showing it in videos as something bad to make people think it’s not them

    • @thomasdavis8117
      @thomasdavis8117 Před 2 lety +1

      Curious to note the lack of border between France and Germany I wonder what that could mean?

    • @artcamp7
      @artcamp7 Před rokem +4

      @@dexterjettster3683 This is my theory after watching a few of these. You think why are they making fun of this tattoo so much? And the strange detail "Got lashed here" pointing to Myanmar. Sounds awful if true.

    • @Stapler42
      @Stapler42 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@artcamp7 You might know this already but "lashed" is a term for getting really drunk (similar to sloshed or getting pissed), it doesn't mean lashing as in being whipped.

    • @justmeajah
      @justmeajah Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@artcamp7or Thailand? I don't think it's Myanmar

  • @elogy890
    @elogy890 Před 2 lety +332

    I'll happily admit that I read every single one of the cards.

    • @FreyaCatherineMusic
      @FreyaCatherineMusic Před 2 lety +15

      Same! Take that, Taiwan card!

    • @RadeticDaniel
      @RadeticDaniel Před 2 lety

      @@FreyaCatherineMusic and now we await for the video by said card

    • @station240
      @station240 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RadeticDaniel don't mention the words "video" and "card" in the same sentence, it triggers IT people.

    • @RadeticDaniel
      @RadeticDaniel Před 2 lety

      @@station240 true, I've changed the sentence around before writing 'cause it triggered me too XD

    • @llamasugar5478
      @llamasugar5478 Před 2 lety

      How did you do it? When I pause the video, the picture darkens and I can’t read it.

  • @ricdavid
    @ricdavid Před 2 lety +457

    I wanted to see what the Canada joke was, so that led me to pausing and reading every one of the cards. Your hard work was not in vain, Map Men.

    • @bruceboa6384
      @bruceboa6384 Před 2 lety +27

      I caught it too. But, then as a Canadian I'm hypersensitive to when a foreigner actually acknowledges the official existence of the country...maybe?

    • @Fawkes42
      @Fawkes42 Před 2 lety +16

      If you were on PC you could've just used the < and > keys to go frame by frame

    • @ricdavid
      @ricdavid Před 2 lety +6

      That's good to know, thanks.

    • @whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790
      @whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Fawkes42 So *that's* how people read these! I'm on mobile and it took me like 10mins of tapping my screen to read all the cards. Came down to the comments thinking surely there has to be a better way - and I wasn't disappointed. THANK YOU!

    • @waziotter
      @waziotter Před 2 lety +3

      @@whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790 I was the same. It took me half an hour to watch an 11min video. Taiwan 🇹🇼 was my favourite.

  • @liammkirby
    @liammkirby Před rokem +11

    Watching this with my six-year-old daughter, she exclaimed "He should be called Stupid Hill".
    Consider yourself absolutely ROASTED, Stuart Hill.

  • @semiayub895
    @semiayub895 Před 2 lety +30

    5:16 I love how they took the time to print out a newspaper just for one scene! The amount of effort they put into these videos is insane. Keep it up!
    Edit: Also look at 6:40, and 6:52. And yes Jay and Mark, I do read the print.

  • @cgoulddc
    @cgoulddc Před 2 lety +375

    Love the “Countdown” music at the end.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 2 lety +6

      Putting more effort than usual into the ad bit.

    • @eggy543
      @eggy543 Před 2 lety +13

      ...except it's French style.

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced Před 2 lety +1

      As a non-British citizen, the silly point for me was that I tuned to the *other" Countdown series just because Jimmy Carr frequented as guest contestant for then-Stephen Fry's Qi series, which I still followed just because I like smart alecks talking out of their arses and then get bamboozled by the siren.

    • @AeroLowdown
      @AeroLowdown Před 2 lety +4

      The...note at the end got me too

  • @Etienne.6329
    @Etienne.6329 Před 2 lety +390

    As a french person, I can tell you that this totally unexpected reference to "Des chiffres et de lettres" on "france 3" really took me off-guard. (Also thanks to you, I learned it was still on TV... which was equally surprising)

    • @bobemmerson1580
      @bobemmerson1580 Před 2 lety +29

      Okay but I'm only interested if there is a "Huit de dix chat fait Des chiffres et de lettres" - and I have no idea whether that translates properly

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 Před 2 lety +11

      @@bobemmerson1580 pretty much but it would be huit chat sur dix font/jouent des chiffres et des lettres
      no there isn't

    • @rocketman584
      @rocketman584 Před 2 lety +32

      You probably didn't know that the music at the end is the theme tune from Countdown, a British TV show which is based on Des chiffres et de lettres.

    • @leoprin5792
      @leoprin5792 Před 2 lety +2

      @@rocketman584 Oh wow! Well thanks for that, I'm going to check, now

    • @MarceldeJong
      @MarceldeJong Před 2 lety +1

      @@leoprin5792 Don't forget your Surfshark VPN account.

  • @Amazin01
    @Amazin01 Před 8 měsíci +40

    Please never stop with your tiny little details hidden in your videos such as those surprisingly informative country cards or your hilarious UN country application (and it being hidden behind mark)

  • @chloroxiphite
    @chloroxiphite Před 2 lety +29

    Aah finally. Somebody who recognises "Cooperworld Jonesania".

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat Před 2 lety +3330

    Once again, I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that I'm starting a country in Marie Byrd Land and am now taking applications for citizens who would like to join me. No one can stop me.

    • @infminuseight
      @infminuseight Před 2 lety +31

      ok mr beat, also im 1st yay

    • @bjh
      @bjh Před 2 lety +24

      I'd like to join

    • @joshuahicks4574
      @joshuahicks4574 Před 2 lety +34

      Im coming, as long as I get to be in charge of HobNob production

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 Před 2 lety +15

      Can i be a citzen and the speaker/chair of the legislature

    • @EpicGamer-yu9qn
      @EpicGamer-yu9qn Před 2 lety +20

      Can I be the a tax collector? Only then I will join.

  • @robintownrobintown
    @robintownrobintown Před 2 lety +1579

    As a Canadian I always assumed that Canada was a real country but I've got to thank Jay and Mark for getting me on the right path of truth at long last.

    • @loranddeka
      @loranddeka Před 2 lety +66

      Patiently waiting for all the Quebec replies.

    • @martinsirois3770
      @martinsirois3770 Před 2 lety +25

      @@loranddeka After seeing the Scotland card, I thought they would at least show Québec. I mean, we Québécois are rather vocal about Québec's (maybe future, I guess?) independence.

    • @martinsirois3770
      @martinsirois3770 Před 2 lety +51

      BTW, here's the text on the Canada card : "Since 1867, the north American territory of Canada has functioned much like a country with its own government, flag, and prominence on the world stage. This "nation" is not without its controversy however. Geography teacher Mark Cooper-Jones once left it out when listing every country in the world by heart, for days afterwards insisting to his pupils that this was due to its status as 'not a real country'.."

    • @vladtepes97
      @vladtepes97 Před 2 lety +2

      wasn't it bouchard who said canada is not a real country?

    • @Doogie2K3
      @Doogie2K3 Před 2 lety +25

      To be fair, we have credibly been accused of being "three mining companies in a trench coat."

  • @FirstNameLastName-gh9iw
    @FirstNameLastName-gh9iw Před 2 lety +3

    7:48 you can feel the pain as he says enjoy the sun as snow covers him

  • @elliotmidgley
    @elliotmidgley Před rokem +25

    A good way to get people to recognise you is to get a flag emoji like this one 🇦🇱

    • @MichaelDoesStuff420
      @MichaelDoesStuff420 Před rokem

      “Tell me your Albanian without telling me your Albanian”

    • @elliotmidgley
      @elliotmidgley Před rokem

      @@MichaelDoesStuff420 not albanian but ok

    • @MichaelDoesStuff420
      @MichaelDoesStuff420 Před rokem

      @@elliotmidgley ik you just had the Albanian flag and I just thought it was funny sorry I knew you PROBALY went to but-

  • @DrMcFly28
    @DrMcFly28 Před 2 lety +172

    Still reeling from the fact that you actually got George Clooney to appear in your video

    • @Ometecuhtli
      @Ometecuhtli Před 2 lety +1

      Really nice of Clooney to take some time off from making countries independet, too.

  • @Ausecko1
    @Ausecko1 Před 2 lety +1786

    "Letters and Numbers" is a perfectly reasonable thing to call a TV show

    • @tvdinner1986
      @tvdinner1986 Před 2 lety +97

      "That's Numberwang!"

    • @mremumerm
      @mremumerm Před 2 lety +17

      like Countdown?

    • @stefanamg63
      @stefanamg63 Před 2 lety +21

      I would've thought that it should either be Letters and Digits, or Words and Numbers, but that's because I'm a pedant.

    • @Slamolo
      @Slamolo Před 2 lety +46

      @@stefanamg63 "Des chiffres et des lettres" is ackchyully "digits and letters", but it doesn't have the same ring to it.

    • @stefanamg63
      @stefanamg63 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Slamolo Ah excellent!

  • @wheelygd
    @wheelygd Před 2 lety +4

    You broke my pause button.
    Also, the only series that makes me want to watch the promotion.

  • @lunaholiday8585
    @lunaholiday8585 Před rokem +1

    Thank goodness for rewind and pause; I like reading the “documents”.

  • @AO00720
    @AO00720 Před 2 lety +597

    In Somaliland we just now concluded an election for parliamentarian and municipality representatives, where 1.3mil registered voters casted their votes.
    Somaliland is still doing well than most of our neighbors without a recognition.

    • @ultrahenk
      @ultrahenk Před 2 lety +83

      For one, it's doing much better than the country it's supposed to be a part of.

    • @camdenbeahan-smith9226
      @camdenbeahan-smith9226 Před 2 lety +20

      That's really good to hear

    • @coltonbates629
      @coltonbates629 Před 2 lety +4

      Idk how you feel about it but I think it’s pry better for the country to stay incognito

    • @AO00720
      @AO00720 Před 2 lety +46

      @@coltonbates629 staying incognito helped us, more than you can imagine. It gave us 30 years to build up a consolidated social structure, without foreign intervention. But this decade is ours. Recognition is on the horizon.

    • @cheesebusiness
      @cheesebusiness Před 2 lety +2

      I hope you’ve stopped hijacking ships

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 Před 2 lety +826

    6:51 Gotta love how Palestine, Taiwan and Kosovo are counted as "two and a half" and the viewer is left with the doubt of which one is the "half" ahah

    • @jeannebouwman1970
      @jeannebouwman1970 Před 2 lety +141

      They are all jut 0.833… country

    • @haroldinho9930
      @haroldinho9930 Před 2 lety +90

      Taiwan is 2 because it claims China too.

    • @DacLMK
      @DacLMK Před 2 lety +16

      Both Taiwan and Kosovo are not countries and should be annexed by China and Serbia respectively.

    • @Scriptedviolince
      @Scriptedviolince Před 2 lety +129

      I say Taiwan counts as the half because it's not that it claims to be its own country, it claims to be the legitimate government of china. Respecting its claim means recognizing that it's incomplete. Thus half.

    • @jeannebouwman1970
      @jeannebouwman1970 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Scriptedviolince I think that Taiwan is a little less than half china

  • @ItIsRan
    @ItIsRan Před 2 lety +19

    7:05
    That aged well

  • @laurenconrad1799
    @laurenconrad1799 Před 2 lety +4

    0:29 Just imagine getting that tattoo in 1989. You'd have to get the entirety of the Soviet Union removed and redrawn a few years later. lol

    • @Simix2803
      @Simix2803 Před 2 lety

      You could also just have the new borders of the former Soviet Union drawn ontop of your tattoo

  • @olakrisma6859
    @olakrisma6859 Před 2 lety +2791

    I’m from Somaliland and the reason we do not have recognition is because Somalia doesn’t want to let us go. Yes, we have own clan, dialect, government and Independence Day but Somalia refuse to give us written independence even though they recognise us. That’s the difference. I’m proud to be from Somaliland and we do not need recognition from other countries to know that we exist. SOMALILAND HA NOO LAATO 💚🤍❤️

    • @extraemontamontes3618
      @extraemontamontes3618 Před 2 lety +146

      Yeah Sudan did grant independence to south sudan so that is a difference

    • @cheesebusiness
      @cheesebusiness Před 2 lety +21

      Do you still hijack ships?

    • @olakrisma6859
      @olakrisma6859 Před 2 lety +29

      @Welly Boot thank you for your lovely comment! I’m born and bred in the UK and I’ve never been to my country! Somaliland is thriving and I would love to go soon God willing💚🤍❤️

    • @olakrisma6859
      @olakrisma6859 Před 2 lety +123

      @@cheesebusiness that is a stereotype portrayed in Western media. Somaliland has beautiful culture and history! Thanks to us the world has coffee!

    • @cheesebusiness
      @cheesebusiness Před 2 lety +27

      @@olakrisma6859, it’s not a stereotype. My father worked on a ship that was tried to be hijacked near Somali. I don’t say that every Somalian is a pirate.

  • @SamPearman
    @SamPearman Před 2 lety +445

    "map men men" is such a clever way of making it more or less fit musically like it was never meant to, while working against Jay's own mind having spent so much time editing the bloody thing that his brain (and ours too, but probably not as much) just hear the additional beat as normal and not off-putting anymore. And it even keeps the actual line intact.

    • @bucklberryreturns
      @bucklberryreturns Před 2 lety +8

      Yes indeed.
      Those freaking out about the extra "men" (which literally does make up the poetic meter) like it's exclusive to this particular video. Silly.
      It's like saying The Beatles Oh-Bla-Di Oh-Bla-Da was satanism or something... 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @honorarymancunian7433
      @honorarymancunian7433 Před 2 lety +12

      Are people not familiar with their older videos?!

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 Před 2 lety +6

      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      ...

    • @NautilusGoose
      @NautilusGoose Před 2 lety +8

      Next video should just be total silence with a single "men" at the end

  • @rogerstone3068
    @rogerstone3068 Před rokem +1

    Countdown theme on an accordion: brilliant attention to detail. Well done. Provided you were wearing a beret and had a string of onions hanging from the handlebars.

  • @rodrigodepierola
    @rodrigodepierola Před 3 měsíci +4

    The Black Hill were not Lakota traditional lands. The moved in, expelling the Cheyenne, in the late 18th century. Of course, they were still screwed over.

  • @andrew4363
    @andrew4363 Před 2 lety +306

    2:26 I’d argue an Englishman claiming part of Scotland is a historical practice

  • @nedimar5696
    @nedimar5696 Před 2 lety +65

    I am waiting for them to say "We're the map - and here's the men.".

  • @MrJimheeren
    @MrJimheeren Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve finally read all the cards. Gosh you guys really put in the details

  • @hamueramusic
    @hamueramusic Před rokem +12

    how does mark not like watching countdown?! It's a great show
    RIP Sean Lock

    • @davepoole9520
      @davepoole9520 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I can't watch it since Rachel Riley proved what a horrible person she was.

  • @sirapple589
    @sirapple589 Před 2 lety +301

    0:32
    “Got Lashed Here”
    I think that’s one of the spiciest jokes in Map Men.

    • @ThierryPeek
      @ThierryPeek Před 2 lety +7

      Can you explain it?
      Never heard of Mynmar (which I believe is the country that gets colored in)

    • @rockifythis
      @rockifythis Před 2 lety +33

      Is this a reference to the ongoing, uh, _situation_ in Myanmar?

    • @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097
      @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097 Před 2 lety +55

      On the one hand it could be spicy. On the other lashed is one of the many terms for getting plastered, wasted or just plain blackout drunk used by us Brits.

    • @alibrown172
      @alibrown172 Před 2 lety +7

      @@ThierryPeek I think its a reference to this: czcams.com/video/eKFjWR7X5dU/video.html

    • @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806
      @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 Před 2 lety

      @@alibrown172 ?

  • @MasakoX
    @MasakoX Před 2 lety +1386

    Does my stain on my jacket that looks like the Shetland Islands count as a country?

  • @HarryR545
    @HarryR545 Před 2 lety +12

    6:42 can't believe Canada was a semi-country this whole time...

  • @TalesOfWar
    @TalesOfWar Před 2 lety +2

    I never knew I needed an accordion rendition of the Countdown theme in my life until this.

  • @SovietLlamaMC
    @SovietLlamaMC Před 2 lety +91

    Tom Scott: The Accidental Rush for Anthrax Island
    A few minutes later...
    Map Men: How do you start a new country?
    Coincidence?
    I think not.

    • @jordand4738
      @jordand4738 Před 2 lety +1

      Tom Scott is related to Ian Scott confirmed

  • @rodrigodelprat
    @rodrigodelprat Před 2 lety +439

    Shout-out to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, a centuries-old "country" (or more correctly, sovereign entity) with only 3 passport holders.

    • @madeleine61509
      @madeleine61509 Před 2 lety +18

      Same number of passport holders as the USA. I don't see the issue 🤷

    • @pattersong6637
      @pattersong6637 Před 2 lety +24

      It's amazing that the final legacy of the Crusaders is an obscure philanthropic order that is theoretically the direct successor of the Knights Hospitaler if you squint hard enough.

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome Před 2 lety +26

      @@pattersong6637 Really is wild that most Holy Orders started as philanthropic hospitals and safe houses, then they went fuckin nuts and hyper militaristic and then the last few are just back to where they started.

    • @grzegorzha.
      @grzegorzha. Před 2 lety +2

      3 passport holders and no territory!

    • @waverod9275
      @waverod9275 Před 2 lety +9

      3 passport holders, no territory any longer, diplomatic relations since 1966 with the nation recognized as ruling over its most recent territory, observer status at the UN, and does not claim to be a nation.... got to love the odd historical remnants.

  • @icehawk3442
    @icehawk3442 Před rokem +2

    I know mapmen has been going on for a bit, but I've just realised how much the intro has Fun With Flags vibes and it's such precious gold hahaha

  • @Icgamers4321
    @Icgamers4321 Před 2 lety

    I remember the state of Lovely by Danny Wallace at 6.43. Good job for mentioning it in your video

  • @chriskeene
    @chriskeene Před 2 lety +332

    Publish at the same time:
    Tom Scott: 'I decided not to land on the Scottish island, as well, there's a bit of a history of english men coming up here and declaring it their's'
    I refuse to believe this is coincidence

  • @ralphhowes
    @ralphhowes Před 2 lety +65

    Brilliant. The accordion Countdown music was perfection.

  • @tongzaggo
    @tongzaggo Před 2 lety

    That countdown theme remix at the end was brilliant

  • @erikhn9331
    @erikhn9331 Před 2 lety

    Always interesting to hear what’s new in the opening tune. This time a slightly rhythmical alteration at the end 😊

  • @pwildr2603
    @pwildr2603 Před 2 lety +118

    A day when a Map Men episode comes out it always a good day.

  • @lawrencesmeaton6930
    @lawrencesmeaton6930 Před 2 lety +467

    The constant tweaks to the map men theme just to fuck with everyone is hilarious.

  • @NikhileshSurve
    @NikhileshSurve Před 2 lety +4

    6:35 😂 that sounds like a good idea.

  • @andrewball4536
    @andrewball4536 Před 2 lety

    Love the reference to Lovely you snuck in. Fun times there back in the day.

  • @EliStettner
    @EliStettner Před 2 lety +279

    The reason South Sudan was recognized and Somaliland was not isn’t because of George Clooney, it’s because they made a peace deal and got Sudan to recognize them. Somalia does not recognize Somaliland, that is the difference.

    • @guppy719
      @guppy719 Před 2 lety +42

      So Somaliland just needs to send out a strikeforce to Mogadishu.

    • @vocesdelrioriourbano7236
      @vocesdelrioriourbano7236 Před 2 lety +3

      @@guppy719 Good luck with that...

    • @RaidsEpicly
      @RaidsEpicly Před 2 lety +17

      and Somalia can't recognize them since there'd hardly be any Somalia left at that point, since most of the rest of the country is also de facto controlled by groups other than the central government (including some areas by isis and other islamist groups)

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Před 2 lety +6

      If we talk seriously: Indeed, exactly. Somalia would have to officially recognize Somaliland as an independent country - as Serbia would have to officially recognize Kosovo as an independent country.

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel Před 2 lety +4

      @@NicolaW72 Serbia could never recognize Kosovo as a country and that wouldn't make it not so... It's to do with the international community at large, not just one single country recognizing or not.
      Regarding Kosovo in particular, really the most crucial step is once all EU members recognize it, now at 22 of 27. Once that happens they can apply for membership. That would pretty much set that matter in stone for a long while.

  • @happyfrenchfries
    @happyfrenchfries Před 2 lety

    Charles, Henry, and William were very happy to see the videos :D Thank you again :)

  • @mart9125
    @mart9125 Před 2 lety

    Right, that's the afternoon sorted. Looking up French Countdown. Thanks Map Men.

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 Před 2 lety +135

    That accordion countdown music was hillarious, and the "hon" at the end was priceless!

  • @spaghettification8658
    @spaghettification8658 Před 2 lety +116

    6:44 "This "nation" is not without controversy however. Geography teacher Mark Cooper-Jones once let it out when listing every country in the world by heart, for days afterwards insisting to his pupils that this was due to its status as "not a real country"."
    Right there with you, Mark! I still remember the day I left New Hampshire of a list of all the American states, it haunts me...

  • @RammusTheArmordillo
    @RammusTheArmordillo Před 2 lety +73

    Yes please, an episode about Taiwan would be lovely (some people do read all the cards)

    • @resolvanlemmy
      @resolvanlemmy Před 2 lety +2

      And basically all of the "disputed territories" that they call themselves "countries"

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions Před 2 lety +1

      I just read the cards, and it sounds interesting! I would be interested in watching the video, if they want to make it!

    • @gwantouwong922
      @gwantouwong922 Před rokem +1

      Taiwan is complicated, they are de facto Republic of China, former government of China. Constitutionally they claim the whole China nowadays and Republic of Mongolia (outer Mongolia), part of Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, Tuva Republic (small part of Russia). While nowadays they are generally called Taiwan😂

    • @artugert
      @artugert Před 6 měsíci

      @@gwantouwong922 The main island is called Taiwan. The nation is called Republic of China.

  • @andrewhrichardson
    @andrewhrichardson Před 2 lety

    Well done guys. Appreciate every aspect of your work. Keep it up.

  • @ADCD-dj8gz
    @ADCD-dj8gz Před 2 lety +41

    Another Map Map Map Men Men, my favorite time of quarter-year

  • @andyjay729
    @andyjay729 Před 2 lety +174

    Christiania: This former military base in the Danish capital Copenhagen sat abandoned for many years until 1971 when a bunch of hippies broke down the barricades and began squatting there. Nowadays approximately 900 people live in the area, and the community have their own rules and regulations, completely independent of the Danish government - most notably when it comes to the sale of marijuana. Danes have a mixed/uneasy relationship with Christiania depending on who you ask - interesting and idealistic social experiment or lawless crack den that shouldn't be tolerated. Bit of a stretch to call it a country, but it is commonly considered to be quite "cool" (not that we'd know).

    • @KaosKrusher
      @KaosKrusher Před 2 lety +2

      I forgot about Christiania thx ;)
      the cards were too fast :/

    • @nulnoh219
      @nulnoh219 Před 2 lety +5

      That sounds like the Kowloon Walled City.

    • @KaosKrusher
      @KaosKrusher Před 2 lety +5

      @@nulnoh219 I think the walled city was more "dangerous"
      also the walled city was really one of a kind ... too bad they destroyed it :/

    • @indieguy103
      @indieguy103 Před 2 lety +2

      I went to Christiania once. Bleak doesn’t begin to describe it...

    • @dogcarman
      @dogcarman Před 2 lety +4

      Erm… not quite. Christianians may have opinions on the sale of various drugs but the the Danish police have a slightly different set of views that are regularly enforced. So independent - not so much. But different? Hell yeah.

  • @DeclanCarnage
    @DeclanCarnage Před 2 lety +1

    I'm glad I stuck around for the Surfshark ad because the French Countdown theme completed me.

  • @trusarmor4957
    @trusarmor4957 Před rokem

    that close was awesome

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Před 2 lety +635

    Releasing a video just after Tom Scott posted one, okay this is getting a bit Sus.

    • @markobajramoski5661
      @markobajramoski5661 Před 2 lety +14

      Maybe Tom is doing some sort of experiment?

    • @FixTheWi-Fi
      @FixTheWi-Fi Před 2 lety +39

      This gets said every time. They just upload on the same days often, 'snot a bloody conspiracy.

    • @armorsmith43
      @armorsmith43 Před 2 lety +44

      You know how women sometimes get their cycles synced up? The same thing happens with CZcamsrs.

    • @bruzie900
      @bruzie900 Před 2 lety +27

      @@FixTheWi-Fi The difference this time is that Tom's video mentions the history of Englishmen strolling up to a Scottish island and claiming they own the place.

    • @DominickvdHoff
      @DominickvdHoff Před 2 lety +1

      they should space it out a bit

  • @drinkingwater8439
    @drinkingwater8439 Před 2 lety +157

    I know that this video is gonna be gold even before I started watching it

  • @williamgriffin61
    @williamgriffin61 Před 2 lety

    great transition at the end.

  • @ComputerRouter
    @ComputerRouter Před 2 lety

    I love the outro music to 'Letters & Numbers' so funny

  • @elijaha773
    @elijaha773 Před 2 lety +53

    6:40 Your comedy always shines in the details.

  • @wasabista1613
    @wasabista1613 Před 2 lety +155

    Canada: Two points suggest it isn't a real country. First, the South Park song Blame Canada says, "It isn't a real country anyway!" Second, until 1982 its constitution was an act of the British Parliament. We had to ask nicely to get it FedExed to Ottawa, but the British were very nice and didn't even charge us shipping and handling.

    • @davidlittle7182
      @davidlittle7182 Před 2 lety +5

      Even madder that the UK doesn't have a written constitution

    • @adambasinger6239
      @adambasinger6239 Před 2 lety +9

      Also the native people's who's unceded territory it consists of, so shitposts aside "Canada isn't a real country" does have some legitimacy to it

    • @wasabista1613
      @wasabista1613 Před 2 lety +1

      @@adambasinger6239 Okay, that's three.

    • @RabbiHerschel
      @RabbiHerschel Před 2 lety +2

      @@adambasinger6239 the territory didn't belong to anyone before the British civilized it. The only "people" there were literal Stone Age primitives.

    • @adambasinger6239
      @adambasinger6239 Před 2 lety +15

      @@RabbiHerschel Well you said it yourself, there were people there. People who's lands were stolen by about 90% plague (the actual percentage of the population whiped out by old world diseases) 5% naked agression and then the rest is a combination of lies and cultural genocides.
      There were people here before the british. They had governments, cultures and a way of life that worked. They are still alive today, and your a fucking idiot if you think they are only air quotes people.

  • @melinalicharowicz7332
    @melinalicharowicz7332 Před 2 lety

    The countdown music at the end really sold me

  • @robbrooks8779
    @robbrooks8779 Před rokem

    Omg the countdown theme at the end 😂

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 2 lety +47

    Mark will surely like 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown instead of regular Countdown.

    • @ze_rubenator
      @ze_rubenator Před 2 lety +18

      Cats Does Countdown is unequivocally better. Partly because it's silly, and partly because the contestants are so bad it makes me feel better about myself.

    • @Thakar98
      @Thakar98 Před 2 lety +1

      Hey it's the guy from the NJB comment section

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced Před 2 lety

      Me, a non-British: "You mean there are TWO Countdowns?"

  • @andyjay729
    @andyjay729 Před 2 lety +160

    Cooperworld Jonesania: Even though no territory has been demarcated for the somewhat flippant would-be country of Cooperworld Jonesania, and even though it doesn't have much of a raison d'etre, or a political ideal (let alone institution), and even though it doesn't have much motivation to actually be a country, it does have a flag.

  • @pizzaisyummy1004
    @pizzaisyummy1004 Před 2 lety +1

    I like how you added esperanto subtitles lol

  • @lordsleepyhead
    @lordsleepyhead Před 2 lety

    This channel is the only channel where I look forward to watching the ad at the end :)

  • @niroshanaperera7330
    @niroshanaperera7330 Před 2 lety +120

    Me: _Prepares myself for anything the intro might do_
    The intro: Map Men Map Men Map Map Map *M E N M E N*
    Me: *Surprised Pikachu face

  • @ShieldAre
    @ShieldAre Před 2 lety +74

    How to be a country: Make other countries recognise you as one. Usually getting recognition from the country you're seceding from is enough.
    The easiest way to do this is to just ask nicely, and surprisingly that works sometimes (Canada, many former colonies).
    The other way is to enforce it militarily (USA and a wide variety of countries).
    And sometimes you might become a country simply because your parent country didn't want you anymore (Singapore).
    Being influential culturally and diplomatically helps, which is for example why Catalonian independence often isn't taken that seriously, but Scottish independence is widely supported even though Scots themselves voted it down. Pretty much everyone knows about Scotland, Scotch, Lochs, kilts, haggis, bagpipes and the rest, but most people outside Catalonia would have a hard time naming three things or even one thing that is Catalan and not Spanish.

    • @willy_dot
      @willy_dot Před 2 lety +6

      Ahaha.. Singapore gets dumped by Malaysia and Malaysian still a developing country today while Singapore....

    • @ap1765
      @ap1765 Před 2 lety +4

      Well according to the video Canada is not a real country lol

    • @peperoni_pepino
      @peperoni_pepino Před 2 lety +2

      @Martin Cregan I think the city of Barcelona and hence the corresponding football team are Catalan as well? FC Barcelona is quite well known, so that would give at least some cultural influence to Catalonia.

    • @xway2
      @xway2 Před 2 lety +6

      I think it's more that the UK was ok with Scottish independence (I mean they didn't want it, but they allowed the referendum), whereas Spain has never accepted the possibility of Catalonian independence. So if you don't want to piss of Spain, you can't even entertain the possibility of Catalan independence but if you argue in favour of Scottish independence the UK can't really say anything since they allowed for the possibility already.

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel Před 2 lety

      @Martin Cregan Which for any non Iberian is not easily distinguishable from castilian, let's be honest.

  • @jackvader107
    @jackvader107 Před 2 lety

    I don't usually like adverts on videos but that was amazing

  • @robinthefarmboy5972
    @robinthefarmboy5972 Před 2 lety

    I love how then ending sound is just countdown but french

  • @Yasumy_myl
    @Yasumy_myl Před 2 lety +40

    I didn't expect to hear about "Des Chiffres et des Lettres" and France 3 on a british video today ! Thanks for the laugh

    • @TarkTheConlanger
      @TarkTheConlanger Před 2 lety

      same

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced Před 2 lety

      That I'd gone into the rabbit hole and finally figured out that not only did I *not* watch an original Countdown series (I watched the "other" Countdown by virtue of its host) but there also exist a *French* version of it, too?!

  • @waziotter
    @waziotter Před 2 lety +71

    You two are amazing. The sheer quantity of work and care that goes into these videos is mind-boggling. I am one of the people you didn’t think would read the Taiwan card but actually did. And I don’t blame you for what you said on the Palestine card. I can’t think of any other channel which could be arsed to record an accordion version of the Countdown theme to play for an ad read. Much less do the theme tune to Count Duckula in French. Chapeau!

    • @philipsullivan4885
      @philipsullivan4885 Před rokem +1

      Thank you, I have been looking for that "Countdown" music for so long.

  • @Rafs-on-the-roof
    @Rafs-on-the-roof Před 3 měsíci

    My favourite part of jays videos is often pausing the read all the little bits of text he puts in, knowing full well hardly anyone will actually read them. They’re still written to an impressively informative and entertaining way. CZcams goat

  • @aidenb1304
    @aidenb1304 Před 2 lety +1

    Absolutely cracked up at the accordion cover of the countdown theme

  • @Akovor_
    @Akovor_ Před 2 lety +234

    Petition to start the country of Mapmenistan

    • @eamonlyons8318
      @eamonlyons8318 Před 2 lety

      Where tho

    • @_qpas_fury_1572
      @_qpas_fury_1572 Před 2 lety +12

      @@eamonlyons8318 everywhere

    • @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806
      @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 Před 2 lety +1

      @@eamonlyons8318 everywhere

    • @tiagoprado7001
      @tiagoprado7001 Před 2 lety +14

      @@eamonlyons8318 Jay's half of the desk, obviously

    • @thulyblu5486
      @thulyblu5486 Před 2 lety +2

      What about "Cooperworld-Jonesania" featured and described at exactly 6:42 in this video? It has one of the map men and English breakfast in its flag! If you wanna look and read yourself I recommend clicking on 6:32 which gives you up to 10 seconds to change the video speed to 25% so you can pause at exactly the right moment. Isn't this the name for a map men country? In case I'm missing an insider joke, please explain, thx :)

  • @matthewmcneany
    @matthewmcneany Před 2 lety +21

    When a daddy country and and a mummy country love each other very much...

    • @westrim
      @westrim Před 2 lety +6

      daddy invades the mummy, and a few hundred years later, a new country is born!
      *pops champagne*
      Mazel tov, it's a United Kingdom!

  • @i40a
    @i40a Před 4 měsíci

    The adverb at the end is brilliant! And Countdown tune in le français style 🇨🇵🍷

  • @Andyvan92110
    @Andyvan92110 Před 10 měsíci

    So much attention to detail. Those cards have interesting/funny text on them.

  • @LadyCooper
    @LadyCooper Před 2 lety +71

    Somewhere like Kosovo is interesting because US, Canada, and other Western countries recognize it, while Russia and its allies don't - leading to a stalemate and keeping it out of the UN. Basically, you need enough UN-member countries to recognize you to win a vote.
    Also interesting is Nauru, which is a full country and will recognize other countries for money - Taiwan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, etc.

    • @russellzacharias3535
      @russellzacharias3535 Před 2 lety +4

      I also thought there was something about several countries what is effectively a veto power and if those countries don't agree/vote "yes" nothing is going to change. (US, China, Russia plus 4 or 5 others, I think; my understanding is that is a large part of the reason Taiwan doesn't get "recognized" by the UN as a group, China just vetoes)

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel Před 2 lety +9

      @@russellzacharias3535 UN Security Council. Also why Israel hasn't been intervened in by blue helmets to stop the genocide like in Rwanda. US veto.

    • @ClementinesmWTF
      @ClementinesmWTF Před 2 lety +11

      @@russellzacharias3535 US, UK, France, Russia (formerly the USSR), and China (PRC, previously ROC-now called Taiwan or “Chinese Taipei”) are the permanent members of the security council, while 10 other “random” (Im not sure how they pick them) non-permanent members are chosen. Any of these objecting to membership will halt membership. The most common factions are US+UK+France and Russia+China. There’s very few membership applications that fall outside of both those two groups’ ideals, and so they often get rejected.

    • @russellzacharias3535
      @russellzacharias3535 Před 2 lety

      thanks!

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome Před 2 lety +2

      @@ClementinesmWTF Would like to take this chance to remind everyone that the Cold War never ended, and it was always really just Great Power politics in a new coat of paint.

  • @Steve_McMillen
    @Steve_McMillen Před 2 lety +22

    0:17 that "Mapmenmen" was unexpected!

  • @caca1000you
    @caca1000you Před 2 lety +8

    As a french guy, the "des chiffres et des lettres" joke just got me xD

  • @PegglemafiaSquared
    @PegglemafiaSquared Před rokem +1

    Your guys comedic timing is amazing

  • @andyjay729
    @andyjay729 Před 2 lety +33

    Sealand: This very small WWII naval fort off the coast of Essex was just a bit too far away from the coast to be considered part of the UK, and therefore is technically in international waters, and therefore up for grabs. In 1967, fisherman Paddy Roy Bates turned up to the abandoned fort with the intention of running a pirate radio station, but instead decided to declare it an independent country, which his son is the king of to this day. It even has its own football team who play other non-countries you haven't heard of such as Tamil Eelam and Occitania.

  • @CarthagoMike
    @CarthagoMike Před 2 lety +607

    "How does a country become a country?"
    half of the older countries in Europe: _break away from your Habsburg overlords_
    half of the younger countries in Europe: _break away from your soviet overlords_

    • @auxencefromont1989
      @auxencefromont1989 Před 2 lety +46

      France : does its thing

    • @danielf.7151
      @danielf.7151 Před 2 lety +105

      Half of the younger countries in the world: _break away from your british overlords_

    • @SirSaladhead
      @SirSaladhead Před 2 lety +26

      Germany: *Vell zis is awkward*

    • @bgggsht
      @bgggsht Před 2 lety +23

      Except most European countries can be traced back to 10th century or earlier, it's a long history of pre-state tribal settlements, religious expanses, ethnical and geographical borders etc. Conquest was - and still is - a major factor though, some just don't care about centuries of heritage.....

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay Před 2 lety +17

      Break away from your soviet overlords - with the option of splitting yourself into two countries after that.

  • @justandy333
    @justandy333 Před rokem

    loving the small detail of the Peirce quincuncial map in the background. basically a top down view of the world. Bravo on attention to detail chaps! I tip my hat!

  • @ryane3703
    @ryane3703 Před 2 lety

    The French countdown music at the end is a great touch