Avantgarde Acoustic, Trio vs Musician, High End Munich
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
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Your point is a fair one, I fully agree that it shows the equipment at 'its best'.
I went to a recent hi-end show and almost every room was playing these type of recordings. You could hear it all, soundstage, width, height and a tibre unlike anything most audiophiles will ever experience.
However, I look back on my journey into hifi, which came from my addition to music as a teenager and playing a modest third clarinet in an orchestra and I find myself thinking that too many of us are now listening to the equipment and not the music. The very thing that got us here.
Whenever I demo a piece of equipment, I take a friend along who plays 1st/solo clarinet. He doesn't have a clue about hifi terminology but he has a very direct way when describing tone, timbre, etc.
My local dealer did have to laugh when my mate was heard asking wtf was playing on the system next door. It was a recording of somebody playing with finger cymbals. In a later hifi show I saw a room full of bearded 50 somethings listening to the same track. Is this what our hobby has come to?
Whatever happened to those goosebumps you used to get when hearing a classic for the first time?
If more artists/producers took their craft more seriously then perhaps this bell chiming, gong smashing 'music' wouldn't be needed at all.
I heard Trios (minus the huge subs) at a Las Vegas show a few years ago. Yes they sound pumped up, detailed and dynamic as per reviews. What the reviewers didn't mention was a pervasive horn coloration in the lower midrange... an "awww" sound the dominates the sonic signature no matter what kind of music is playing and especially noticeable on vocals. They also can sound aggressive, as in harsh, unless you use a very sweet sounding amps and front end. I was impressed with their excitement but put off by noticeable listener fatigue which can only get worse the longer one listens.
So what was the amp and how did they set up the speaker?
Bom dia À todos! foi o que de melhor vi em qualidade e beleza em áudio! Parabéns.
The reason producers play music like this when showing forth their speakers is to show the speakers at their best. Their dynamic, soundstage, tone, etc. to show their customers what the speakers can do, and then the buyer can chose to listen to whatever he/she likes, knowing what the speakers can do with good mastered audio files.
Gryphon on the other hand has a show that i'm more fond of. They play things like musica nuda which i quite enjoy
Exactly!
When evaluating equipment, there needs to be a baseline to make sure the equipment in question is accurate.
Sometimes to do that, music that one may not generally listen to, but is recorded extremely well, is necessary for the task.
Once you have a baseline for accuracy, then when you get the equipment home and listen to your own recordings, at least you know that what you are hearing is an accurate representation of of what has been recorded, whether the recording is good or bad.
If one does initial evaluations with standard studio rock, pop, electronica, etc, you have no idea if what you are listening to is accurate, since there has been so much manipulation in the studio.
And I do listen to everything.
Peter-so the speakers we heard first were the smaller Zero's? Did they use the big center woofer? And the second speakers were the Trio's? Did they use the center woofer? I kind of think the first system had a bit more impact. Impressive! Bill
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+John Garces Most new popular Artist music cannot be played in Hi-Fi shows because of copyright laws. That's OK I like this music !!!
Regardless which speaker is playing the recording is completely unnatural... much too hard and overly crisp sounding, not at all the way a guitar sounds at a sensible listening distance. Sounds like I'm listening with my ear one inch away from the guitar. No doubt the result of super close micing with tipped up bass and high frequencies to accentuate percussive detail.
The instrument played is a bass, not a guitar.....
Had a listen to this exact setup. The midrange is good, tweeter is pretty raspy, and the basshorn is boomy. The midbasshorn does not cover all the midbass, and neither does the basshorn. So lacking detail at the top and bottom.
did you notice that horn vendors always present some shytty music on their shows?
Any idea what the name of this track is or who it is by?
Which won? :P
hahah pla som angerfist track on this system XP
The look better than the sound . You are looking to spend over $200,000.00 speaker price tags and produce this kind of sound i think way over its truely worth .
Sounds like they threw a bunch of guitars down concrete steps.
+Paul Sop :)))))))
this is not music...
Great speakers, but why do they play such shitty music?
Does anybody really buy this crap and listen to it in their home?
Well, are you listening to music or just the sound of the speakers? Crappy "deep" music. This just confirms me that audiophiles don't even listen to music anymore, just the detail and quality of the recording.
This is a Bass solo. probably a 4 string bass. You sounding a big fool to say shitty. It is beyond your level of intelligence for sure
That is precisely what an audiophile means. Granted most audiophiles love music as well, but it is the sound of the music that is the most important.