Supreme Court upholds Indian Child Welfare Act
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- In a surprising 7-2 decision on Thursday - the Supreme Court upheld a law that protects Native American families looking to foster or adopt native children. Jimmy Hoover, Supreme Court reporter at the National Law Journal, joins CBS News to unpack the decision and the precedent it sets.
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Being Native is nation-based, not race-based. The children deserve to be kept with their tribes/nations.
So I as a native to america with Greek roots am native to america. It’s the only home I know
@@youngconservative You aren’t a Native American. You’re a settler of German descent. Settlers born in their new home are still settlers. Your origin is not here because you aren’t a part of any of the original peoples of these lands. You don’t belong to any Indigenous nation or tribe here.
You’re no more endemic to these parts than a Norway Maple tree is.
This is just a scapegoat, many Native American nations are ethno states and if your an ethno states then your racial population is homogenous by law.
@@TmanRock9 Which proves my point, thank you lol
@@youngconservativeno
Being part Native American and registered to a tribe I’ve always heard stories about getting taken away because of the money I’m worth
Who doesn't feel more secure with their own 'tribe'?
I guess people who aren’t ethnic nationalist? So the vast majority of the country.
Let’s not forget that we (Eurocaucasians) wrote the rules, and that every time it has proven inconvenient over the past 275 years we have tried to change them. I’m about as white as a girl can get, Irish and Norwegian, but was fortunate enough to grow up around the Kootenai, Salish, and Lakota Nations.
Based on my own research of primary sources and discussions with my Indigenous friends, adoption was, not infrequently and not always intentionally, being used as one of the last genocidal weapons against Indigenous cultures. That’s how I interpret the information I have gathered over the last decade or so. It’s my opinion, it’s okay if your opinion or experience is different, but that’s how I feel and I am glad the court upheld the law.
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Not need to bring up things that are irrelevant.
Genocide is willful by definition so to say it was done not deliberately means it can not be genocide by definition.
No one as far as I’ve seen has any problem with native family’s staying together. Family’s should always have the first go at adopting a child, however they do have a problem with the fact that if a native family falls through and doesn’t want the child then the child must first be given to another native of any kind of possible. This demonstrates a racial bias and there is a reason it’s not done for other non native children, because it’s illegal. Native American communities already breed a nasty ethnic nationalism and I don’t think it’s a great idea especially in the long run to promote or allow such nasty ideologies to shape law. This isn’t to say that is always or even usually harmful but that it has been shown in the past specifically with this law to cause avoidable harm.
I thought Indian lands had its own judicial government
I hope that was native American and not Indian.
Some do, some don't but CPS and other agencies intervene sometimes. Native kids should be with their native family if at all possible.
@@MBrieger Indian is also commonly used by the communities you intend to protect with language policing. Native, Native American, Indian, Native Alaskan etc.
Nope! The feds over see us.
Its all a lie
Excellent questions and answers! Great reporting 😊
Let the Tribal Courts handle it.
It's only right. Natives have suffered enough.
Therefore, "show thyself approved, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth".
Native American tribes and families will have to step up to get foster licensed homes on reservations.
Thank you
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I suffered under this law. There were many non-indians families who were willing to take me into their home, but because they were white the state was able to swipe me away instantly at their wish. Telling this story pains me greatly for I may never see financial leniency for the crimes against humanity this imposed upon me and was sanctioned by the voters of this corrupt system. The law is racist its in the verbage. I have a great story to tell of the dark-side of the system and how it has doomed a great many former-foster child (if such a thing can be said). For we will forever have been violated by our state and fellow neighbor, sanctioned by our neighbor and tax dollar. I consider the violation I suffered at the hands of the people who had "my best interest" to be about $6B. There's no way a system can pay for the trauma it has inflicted against us. ICWA is trash. So are the people who support it.
How did it hurt you?
I’m kind of confused with this whole law did. Could you please explain to me what happened? I’m so sorry that this happened to you and I would really love for someone to explain this for me.
@@youngconservative Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA). On paper it is perfect to what a racial culture would consider a problem. It was a status for me in addition to all the other status's that the government (in the guise of (Department of Human Services) labeled me with. This is complicated and painful. There were multiple oppertunities for my mother to give me to well-off non-indian family. One was even Mormon, but one of the tribes in charge of my "best-interest" interjected and obliterated chance after chance for possible happiness. My mother was a ward of the state of Oregon because of some rehab program and facility, just around the corner from where I live now. So naturally I fell under the State of Oregon in Umatilla County and became a ward when I was born. The state interjected due to her methods of disapline. I was a normal energetic child (traumatized at 2 maybe younger), but my father decided to contribute to my life by not being in it. My mother couldn't handle me and my other siblings. There is a large age-gap between us, which only compounds complications. Mostly silence. I was a child in the 1990's here in Pendleton Oregon and I hope to see everyone who had anything to do with the mishandling of my wardship in prison or bloody. The state did not help me and my public defender was dismissed by guardians seeking to scam the system. They damned me and helped the monsters who inflicted scars on me. This is not a well mind to live with when anyone 18 years older then you or those who had a vote for any politician who enacted laws that contributed to the foster system is a contributor to my (or your) damnation. This should be grounds for civil war. Churches are preferable. The law is racist. It's in the stupid name.
I was in the system till I graduated. Which was in Oklahoma. My last placement was a foster-mill and at some points here in Pendleton I had eleven other foster-siblings at times. Most of us don't speak to each other. Not much unity when in some cases we hated each other as much as the foster-parent or guardian. My guardians were corrupt. I did write to the governor Oregon Tina Kotek, but I feel the letter conducted beauracratic finger pointing. At least I got a response, but it seems to have only reinforced my loss of confidence in the United States government. I have been failed and so has anyone cursed enough to be a foster-kid.
@@soulfourger Limited my job oppertunities, because of a lack of social connections (mostly blood family). Or interest in socializing with unknown persons.
So how does your experience with wanting to be in a more economically advantageous setting for you while allowing yourself to be dissolved into a white society and never having a real, legal connection to your tribe and the tribals rights that go along with it. This law benefited you in the long-run. Do you seriously want to give-up your tribal rights for a few short-run comforts. Your sacrifice is noted and remembered. Do yourself a favor and help the children around you instead of complaining about events you can’t change. Push forward. It’s better for your tribe.
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Well done. Ethnocide is not what we should be trying to accomplish. This was the right call.
Yep, now stop calling them Indians, that was that Spanish idiots mistake, he thought he landed in India, what a fool!
I don’t think ethnic nationalism is what should try to be accomplished.
Indigenous lives matters! #Psalms10 🪶🪶⚔️💯📖✅
Listen. We totally stole their land. Let them keep their children. Good lord, haven't they suffered enough?
Who is “we”?
omg,dude get over it hypocrite, leave if you think whites stole land.
I feel like we should give some land back and see what they do...its gotta be better than both sides in politics just stealing our hard earned tax dollars....
"we" didn't steal anything. Stop blaming people who had nothing to do with the past for todays issues.
@No one special It doesn't change the OP's point though.
Indians are from India.
Who were the 2 decenters?
Alito and Thomas
@@Lulzswag
Of course. The biggest problem with the court always starts with those 2.
I'm looking this case up to read the decisions. Even when I dispute Thomas, he has had interesting reasoning. Much like Obama. When he was President, I was often saying, "This is *crazy!* " Then when I'd get a chance to watch him address a crowd, I'd get a chance to understand his thinking. Sometimes I'd disagree with the outcome of that process, but at least I would understand instead of thinking he's crazy.
Yeah I know that’s crazy. I still be on your foster care, so yeah I completely understand understand that.
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What was done to them is so horrible there is no way to correct it, even when they try.... they mess it up. None of the current options work. Whether the children stay or are placed out, they lose either way. 🤔
True, but they aren't the only people wronged that way in this country.
Is that supposed to be English? I can't even parse that rambling crap.
I miss the overnight "CBS World News Now".
Tsa-La-Gi
Pride
The official US federal term is, American Indian, yes 👍🏽 that’s an outdated term too - But if you go any federal govt website one will see the term, “American Indian” - let’s Change it to native. Time to change.
There are multiple tribes that prefer Indian over Native American for a variety of reasons that are their own to have. If they have a problem with it let them petition the government for change.
Do not go on a moral crusade for a group you do not belong to believing you know what's best for people that are not you. That is the most problematic thing here
@@nickcollins1052 Yeah, my wife is Chippewa. I highly doubt she cares about New Delhi.
@@MBrieger Just as individuals are allowed to choose how they wished to be called so to does the individual tribes and the group as a whole get to choose for use in each specific circumstance.
Indian is used by the government because it has a clear understood meaning and changing it would require a lot of addendums to a lot of laws and other government document's and procedures.
As I said if the tribes have issue with the name THEY can have the government change it and THEY can ask to be called Native Americans.
Do you not have anything better to do with your life, Karen? Where are your kids?
@@nickcollins1052 The majority of *Indigenous* people prefer being called Indigenous, especially the younger generations. The people who are okay with American Indian are mostly elders who grew up with that term. Native American is accepted, but is slowly fading behind the term Indigenous. Op isn’t crusading-they’re amplifying the voices of a growing majority.
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Native Americans have lived on the American continents for 15,000 years...they are owed their dues
White Americans is just another tribe that took over. How many tribes before that have suffered? Or you are saying they all lived peacefully without violence? 🙄
They are not owed ethnic nationalism.
Marshal passes away and who do we get?,,, Thomas!!! 😔😔How is that possible!! What would History say!! It must be a sick joke,,,😔😔
Canadians use the term "First Nations" to identify indigenous people.
At least that label doesn't refer to them as native, considering they're no more native than europeans. They just got here a little sooner.
Canada still has the queen on their money, too. What's your point?
@@ChrisRJ Much more Indigenous than any European could ever fantasize.
@@ChrisRJ they are native. They have lived on the American continents for over 15,000 years
This shouldn't be happening 😮
*GOOD !* 🏆
such good news
I clicked thinking it was about children from India. What the heck.
Of course Uncle Thomas dissented. 🙄 BTW, I thought we'd officially switched from saying "indian" to "Native American" in the 80s...
I think it was so-named back at a time when that was the designation, I guess that could be analogous to the NAACP decision to retain their name as it has been for decades
That's an ongoing question I have. Here in Washington I've heard some people refer to themselves as Indian and others refer to themselves as native. At my University, for instance, we had the college of American Indian Studies, but then within that department I took a class called, "Reading Native Women's Lives."
Krypt1970, let me get this straight. The person referring to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as an “Uncle Tom” is complaining about the term “Indian?” Do you even OWN a mirror?
Its Indian, we never switched.
they are NOT indian they are native american or indigineius people. indians are from india!
Many tribes still prefer Indian over Native American and the US government still uses Indian in titles such as the Bureau of Indian Affairs
Let them choose the name they go by. It's not our place to force YET ANOTHER broad overarching title onto a vast culturally diverse people just because we decided we deserved the land more then them.
@@nickcollins1052 they are not indian is my my point. Why not call them american Irish or american germans? See my point?
It's a legal term. That's it. Also, my grandparents prefer "indian" because that generation feels like anyone born in the western hemisphere are native americans.
The term America is not our own either.
To eachother, we identify on our large social groups, then individual tribes.
Like abathascan or coast salish. We are all very different and have completely different views on life and social structures.
@@dharas4114 also...many tribes have been given names that are not their names. Hundreds of tribes that their names just got lost in translation and was never fixed
@@nickcollins1052 No natives would say they "prefer" indian. most just dont mind either or
Thomas will put me on a plantation if he could.
Dont flatter yourself with your overstuffed victim mentality. If you are so afraid of the white man you are free to leave America anytime you like. There are plenty of countries without white people in them, take your pick and go.
Has anyone told him that he's black, too?
have you considered that keeping a child on a reservation by only allowing native families to adopt might be kind of like keeping the child in an alcohol and drug riddled plantation.
Why you so angry, bruh?
I fear he would
This use of the word "Indian" should be totally erased when referring to Natives. VP Kamala Harris is Indian, so is the Surgeon General. The proper labeling of this group matters.
True, it’s should be changed…but the federal govt use the term, American Indian. It outdated but it’s the legal term for now.
@S. & T. Robertson anything made by human can be revised. I don't know why Natives don't make more noise about this mislabel.
@@manuelmoraleda9684 I agree - 👍🏽 I work in Tribal Vocational Rehabilitation using the term, American Indian in my grant writing etc … it annoys me to no end.
'Native' is not the right word to use. I was born in the USA, as were my parents. We're all literally natives. We are indigenous to this land, having been born here. They need a better word to describe the descendants of the original natives because this idea will not go away. Most of us Americans were born here.
@@joemitchell2589Yeah but they are the descendants of the first humans that occupied the Americas thousands of years ago. Not the descendants of humans that came to America 20-40 years ago, or 200-400 years ago. First Nations could also be used.
Ya so keep them in bad homes and in cycles of drugs and abuse but dear God don’t let them have a home where they may have wealth and a chance to thrive right? Damn people r stupid
And b4 anyone comes for me-yea I am on native land. I’ve been invited and been to the rez whites aren’t allowed to. I see the situation! And it keeps natives actually more dumbed down more unable to have self accountability. Some of those babies are getting raped molested and breed but the laws keep that in place to generationally happen to children. Come here and see for yourself. And lastly, this is not their land. No land is anyone’s land. It’s Gods. Respect it. We don’t own anything. And Indians have massive funding and so many positives just for being born with native blood. We as Americans have way less rights then natives do. It’s not alright that the children feel the brunt. Some rich write dude doesn’t know what’s going on inside tribal lands. God forbid any of these statistically shown children from ever acquiring a better life actually getting ahead and being brought up into society… they don’t want. Because no adoption will keep them from their native roots. So this law is bs.
Drug and alcohol addiction is extremely high on these reservations but they claim it's in the welfare of the child that they take a little one from their adoptive parent's arms and put them in a place that they have never known with people they don't know at all. Some of these children have never seen a reservation and are more Hispanic and white than Indian. The law is racist af and they know it.
Indian... as in India? What a joke!
Another one of those terms going back to Columbus and believing he was in India.
Buffalo is another one..........they look like the water buffalos of India, so.............never mind that they were called "Bison" by the Natives.
No, you goof. Indiana. You need a map.
American Indian. Were you dropped on your head?
Thank you...I won't go full native ......yet😎👌..... I may sweeten my coffee a little
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I am supposed to be a Roman,......and we do have a reputation to protect ..😳