Meso-Polyrhythms

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  • čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
  • Overlapping clock divisions can create changes in a patch that are not just different rhythms for note events. These changes take place in the "meso" time scale, and when they work within and through each other they can be considered to be "meso-polyrhythms."
    The more meso scale movements we add to the patch, the harder it gets to hear the effects of each one. Check out the video "Sculpting Time with a Modular Synth" for some thoughts on larger structures. • Sculpting Time with a ...
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Komentáře • 65

  • @hlprmnky
    @hlprmnky Před 4 lety +6

    Okay, so now we need a Star Trek episode where the chief engineer breathlessly exclaims “That’s it! We just need to destabilize the repetitions of the mesopolyrhythm!” and that turns out to be what saves the ship. I am also willing to accept that the navigation and/or engineering consoles are stacked Shared System/TMMSen, but only if you all in Asheville get a really good royalty clause in the contract.

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety

      Hahaha, I'll subscribe to CBS Online or whatever it is if they do that.

  • @swampflux
    @swampflux Před 4 lety +1

    This was a really smart one, and a great way of showing how a lot of these modules work together. A+ good sir.

  • @ultrabillions2208
    @ultrabillions2208 Před 4 lety

    Loving these chats, excellent work 👏🏻 🔥 👏🏻

  • @FelipeTellez
    @FelipeTellez Před 4 lety +27

    I've consistently seen how you/makenoise use Curtis' text, and the theories of microsound to create and educate, which is amazing. I must say that after going over the actual text myself, I strongly disliked it, because of its lack of actual, LISTENABLE examples and real world connections. The education you guys are doing really fills a big gap in synthesized based music. MEGA KUDOS...
    It would be amazing to see you in the future discus / create sound objects described by Curtis like Glissons, pulsars, trainlets, etc.
    You guys rock, cheers =)

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety +11

      Hey thanks for watching! For a more broad look at music with Roads' perspective check out his "Composing Electronic Music: A New Aesthetic" which branches out a lot and includes many sound examples from other composers. "Listenable" is still subjective, of course, it's mostly in the "academic electronic music" realm. But there's some great stuff to learn and hear in there, in my opinion. For a look at glissons, pulsars etc. in our system, check out the video "Microsound Workshop" here: czcams.com/video/qQUrSh9wzs0/video.html

    • @FelipeTellez
      @FelipeTellez Před 4 lety

      @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Amazing! thnx!

  • @H3ath
    @H3ath Před 3 lety

    I really enjoyed this, thanks for taking the time to put it together :D

  • @BrunoWiebelt
    @BrunoWiebelt Před 4 lety

    that was very clear and helpful understanding some(previously) diffuse concept

  • @WellsOliver
    @WellsOliver Před 4 lety

    was literally just now fiddling with a new polyrhythm-cenrric synth from another lovely synth company and wondering "I know there's some way to do this with modules, but" and here we are. Thanks!

  • @coreyostman
    @coreyostman Před 4 lety

    Ha! Saw you using X-CV Pot/Y-CV Pot. Those are two of my favorite performance controls when using ADD or LOC inputs on René 2. Thanks for a fantastic video!

  • @JeffreyOrgill
    @JeffreyOrgill Před 4 lety

    Great video! Lots of cool ideas here :-) Thanks! Nice books too

  • @EleniEliades_
    @EleniEliades_ Před 4 lety

    Brilliant ! I'm learning so much which will help me to know more about Modular Synthesis. It's very frustrating when I have modules but don't know what needs to be patched into what. 💡

  • @mgscheue
    @mgscheue Před 4 lety +1

    That's another fine meso!

  • @TRaddcliff
    @TRaddcliff Před 4 lety +1

    it must be fun to know what youre doing!

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 Před 4 lety

    This reminds me of those class action lawsuit commercials: "If you or a loved one is suffering from meso-polyrhythms, you may be entitled to compensation..."

  • @corydkiser
    @corydkiser Před 4 lety +2

    Polyrhythms are my fav.

  • @VocalChainsStudio
    @VocalChainsStudio Před 2 lety

    Brilliant🦑

  • @scottshriner1
    @scottshriner1 Před 4 lety

    I’d give a thumbs up just for the Flava Flave shot.

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety +1

      Flavor Flav is in everything you eat! Cause everything you eat's got flavor...

    • @scottshriner1
      @scottshriner1 Před 4 lety

      Love your work!! Thx for making these vids.

  • @Atzensindkacke
    @Atzensindkacke Před 4 lety

    Sounds delicious

  • @Valeofthesilent
    @Valeofthesilent Před 4 lety +2

    If my loops are no longer looping whatve they become, wait, what I’ve become...

  • @ahzootube
    @ahzootube Před 4 lety

    Great introduction! I was wondering if Tempi can set various gate lengths?

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety

      Only 50% clocks, or 10ms triggers. Otherwise patch it through MATHS for variable/VCable width.

  • @anthlyons
    @anthlyons Před 4 lety

    Thanks for another really interesting and engaging snapshot. Just wondering if you think of meso-polyrhythms as the same as the same as isorhythms?

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety

      First of all, i'd note that meso-polyrythm is just a term i made up for this video and it's possible, even likely, that there is already an existing term for it. That said, in response to your question I would say maybe not, because I understand isorhythm to refer to a repeated rhythmic pattern among note events, and as I'm using it here, the "meso-rhythm" is affecting something other than individual note events and on a time scale longer than single note events. The repetition of isorhythmic patterns of a length different from the meter of the piece, could have some relation to what i called "meso-polyrhythm" in terms of differing/overlapping phrase lengths, but I would also consider my "meso-rhythm" to be broader, as it could be applied to any meso-scale change such as periodic transposition, timbral shifts, shifting clock divisions, turning echoes on and off, etc. Hopefully that answers the question?

  • @jfracine_composition
    @jfracine_composition Před 4 lety

    Love you guys ! Are those t-shirts available somewhere ?

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety +1

      I believe they are sold out but we are often adding new shirts at makenoisemusic.com/adjuncts

  • @sashayudin3937
    @sashayudin3937 Před 4 lety

    0:50 was hilarious ahahahaha

  • @brushsuka
    @brushsuka Před 4 lety

    The matrix machine enters the Black hole to open and expand the creation of sound shaping textures .

  • @purelucknoskill5158
    @purelucknoskill5158 Před 4 lety

    6:30 magic

  • @patchnovae
    @patchnovae Před 7 měsíci

    This is almost magic lol. Do you teach this stuff on the side? Can i pick your brain for a couple of hours? :D

  • @pettaway5530
    @pettaway5530 Před 4 lety

    Clocker Rocker

  • @joncharnis4679
    @joncharnis4679 Před 4 lety

    wait why is the X channel of Rene right when you hook it up playing non linear rhyhtms? Do you have some gates un-selected in Rene? or is something happening with Tempe's channel 1?

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, it is due to the Gate programming for the X Channel.

    • @joncharnis4679
      @joncharnis4679 Před 4 lety

      @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC thank you for your reply and all these awesome videos :)

  • @constantinflux
    @constantinflux Před 4 lety

    Super quick thing: try to hang some thick fabric in the rooms corners. Sometimes your voice struggles to stay above the rooms ambient reverberation. It might be your style though, so... don't mind me. Just my 2 cents.

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks for the suggestion! Always trying to improve :)

  • @nth7485
    @nth7485 Před 4 lety

    Dude, did you take a couple of drinks before shooting..? 🍸

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety

      Nope. Did I seem like I did? Last week I had a lot of comments (on "Noise Floor of the Universe") jokily implying I was on drugs, which I also was not, haha.

    • @nth7485
      @nth7485 Před 4 lety

      @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Facial expresssions looked a bit sluggish, other than that it was fine... 😊 No offence. Thinking maybe you guys had a drink session after work, in the office. All good 🍻

  • @JeffreyOrgill
    @JeffreyOrgill Před 4 lety

    Notations 21!

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety +1

      That one took me years to track down!

    • @JeffreyOrgill
      @JeffreyOrgill Před 4 lety

      @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Santa Monica Public Library has a copy. Beautiful book! I think they have Curtis Roads too, but only for reference material (that could be LA public Library though)

  • @pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591

    I have no idea how you know what you are doing.

    • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC
      @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC  Před 4 lety +3

      "How" or "whether?" :P
      Years of practice, concentration, and enthusiasm :)

  • @Frozen_Smoke1972
    @Frozen_Smoke1972 Před 4 lety

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  • @MisterNiles
    @MisterNiles Před 4 lety

    I was sure you were referencing Ligeti and not Flavor Flav. You made me lol. But a metronome is not a clock.

  • @sudbenzer6603
    @sudbenzer6603 Před 4 lety

    Is he drunk?