I installed the press ball valve to stop water from going up and over to a hose bib up on the deck above in case you're wondering. I knew there was water in that line but just drained the water in the hot/cold faucet up on the wall out of view during the video. I drained it to prevent freezing damage but forgot about the water sitting down in the pipe on the outside of the wall. IDIOT!
Seating a piece of pipe or tubing is a quick way to verify depth (engagement or sock-in) for plumbing or high pressure hydraulic or pneumatic applications. Thanks for the informative video.
I don't mean to tell you how to work your press but I do this for a living you should've cleaned your pipe and definitely should've reamed it both inside and out that is crucial to keeping those O-rings from failing
Can you do all of us a favor? Fire up your smart phone or video camera and create a fast video. Share with us exactly how *reaming the inside of the tubing* protects the o-rings that only contact the outer surface of the tubing? Then, please share what the shape of the end of the tubing is after being cut with a sharp tubing cutter. I don't know about your cutter, but mine produces a beveled edge that is the perfect profile to protect o-rings. When your video is uploaded to your channel, come back here and post the URL. Thanks in advance.
@@askthebuilder I hope I wasn't disrespectful I didn't mean to be and I was just following manufacturer specifications Viega and I'm sure we both can agree no one wants to go back and redo any fitting so like I said I am just quoting what the manufacturer suggested and at this point I haven't had any leaks thank God but listen it's up to individual discretion I try not to add any more headaches to my day
That was a great video, thanks for sharing. can you tell me the tool part number please, I see so many on line, the cheapest at $141.00, a Rigid through Zoro.
Yes, that segment of pipe froze too but didn't split. It's shameful I forgot to drain this down when I had drained down the hot/cold hose bib just 30 inches up above this section of pipe. I was in a rush. I know, excuses are reasons for failure.
Shut off valve should be inside. During the winter shut the valve, and open the outside garden hose faucet valve to let the pipe drain and in provide an outlet for pressure from any freezing
It's a finished room on the other side. The entire system is normally drained for the winter but my daughter needed to use the hose one cold day. I shut all things off and drained the primary faucet but FORGOT in the dark to deal with this. All I had to do was open the silly ball valve you see to the left of the 90 that blew out and this video would have never happened.
Thank you for creating this video! What do you think of brass pipes for potable water? Or other kinds of metal? Can the copper press tool be used for other metals, or do they have their own tools like that?
Nope. It's just an advancement in technology that you now are aware of. A huge benefit to this method is that if a water line is BROKEN and GUSHING WATER, you can use this method to make the repair WHILE THE WATER is shooting out the end of the pipe! You can't ever do that with a torch. To make the repair as I mention above, just use a ball valve like I show in the video, but keep it OPEN. Slide it on the end of the pipe that's gushing water. You'll get a bit wet doing this. Water is now gushing through the valve. Press the end of the ball valve on the pipe. As soon as the press tool is finished, slowly close the valve. The water stops flowing. Magic!
I can't argue with that. My biggest questions with press are HOW LONG will the rubber o-ring create a seal? Will aggressive water cause the o-ring to deteriorate? Solder can last 100 years. Will the rubber do the same????
Saliva?? Am I the only one that is thinking, and if this went to your kitchen faucet, where you get drinking water out of.. and you just put saliva in your pipe with your drinking water?? Illl.. uh, no.. But my big problem is.. how long do these rubber washers last? For now it may be good, but I have never had a rubber washer that did not get old, brittle, or lose its seal in time.. so for now, it might be great.. but can you guarantee that the rubber will still be good, and sealed, 20 years later.. Especially if the pipe is in a place where it gets a bit of movement from vibrations and stuff? I know a soldered connection can last like that, but can the rubber washer in this last like that?
What would you recommend as a lubricant? Some cancer-causing chemical???? The saliva was applied to the outside wall of the tubing, not the inside. Your question about the o-ring life-expectancy is a great one. I wonder the same. Reach out to the press fitting manufacturers and ask them. When you get the answer, come back and post it in your next comment.
I installed the press ball valve to stop water from going up and over to a hose bib up on the deck above in case you're wondering. I knew there was water in that line but just drained the water in the hot/cold faucet up on the wall out of view during the video. I drained it to prevent freezing damage but forgot about the water sitting down in the pipe on the outside of the wall. IDIOT!
Seating a piece of pipe or tubing is a quick way to verify depth (engagement or sock-in) for plumbing or high pressure hydraulic or pneumatic applications. Thanks for the informative video.
Love to see these sorts of hands-on practical examples of DIY. Thank your son for being a good sport about it on a holiday. 🙂
He wasn't so grumpy once we got started and he could do some of the directing. Should have baked him into a credit slide at the end!
I don't mean to tell you how to work your press but I do this for a living you should've cleaned your pipe and definitely should've reamed it both inside and out that is crucial to keeping those O-rings from failing
Can you do all of us a favor? Fire up your smart phone or video camera and create a fast video. Share with us exactly how *reaming the inside of the tubing* protects the o-rings that only contact the outer surface of the tubing? Then, please share what the shape of the end of the tubing is after being cut with a sharp tubing cutter. I don't know about your cutter, but mine produces a beveled edge that is the perfect profile to protect o-rings. When your video is uploaded to your channel, come back here and post the URL. Thanks in advance.
@@askthebuilder I hope I wasn't disrespectful I didn't mean to be and I was just following manufacturer specifications Viega and I'm sure we both can agree no one wants to go back and redo any fitting so like I said I am just quoting what the manufacturer suggested and at this point I haven't had any leaks thank God but listen it's up to individual discretion I try not to add any more headaches to my day
Great video as usual Tim! How much do one of them cost?
Are you sitting down? $2,000 US in 2021 - The exact same tool but Milwaukee brand - $3,450 US.
That was a great video, thanks for sharing. can you tell me the tool part number please, I see so many on line, the cheapest at $141.00, a Rigid through Zoro.
Sure. Go here: amzn.to/4aIWSzK
Great video. I couldn't help but notice the pipe to the left of the spigot looked bulged. Was that also freeze damage?
Yes, that segment of pipe froze too but didn't split. It's shameful I forgot to drain this down when I had drained down the hot/cold hose bib just 30 inches up above this section of pipe. I was in a rush. I know, excuses are reasons for failure.
Shut off valve should be inside. During the winter shut the valve, and open the outside garden hose faucet valve to let the pipe drain and in provide an outlet for pressure from any freezing
It's a finished room on the other side. The entire system is normally drained for the winter but my daughter needed to use the hose one cold day. I shut all things off and drained the primary faucet but FORGOT in the dark to deal with this. All I had to do was open the silly ball valve you see to the left of the 90 that blew out and this video would have never happened.
Thank you for creating this video! What do you think of brass pipes for potable water? Or other kinds of metal? Can the copper press tool be used for other metals, or do they have their own tools like that?
Brass is a great pipe for potable water. The press fittings at this time are just made for copper tubing.
Very interesting and good to know! How would you feel about using Sharkbite fittings for similar repair?
Sharkbite isn't bad. It's like comparing a new Chevy truck to a Ford.
Have you used a hydraulic press?
I've not used one. My mechanical one works just fine.
Does this mean that the old way of using the torch is no longer valid
Nope. It's just an advancement in technology that you now are aware of. A huge benefit to this method is that if a water line is BROKEN and GUSHING WATER, you can use this method to make the repair WHILE THE WATER is shooting out the end of the pipe! You can't ever do that with a torch.
To make the repair as I mention above, just use a ball valve like I show in the video, but keep it OPEN. Slide it on the end of the pipe that's gushing water. You'll get a bit wet doing this. Water is now gushing through the valve. Press the end of the ball valve on the pipe. As soon as the press tool is finished, slowly close the valve. The water stops flowing. Magic!
Im old school l prefer torch!
I can't argue with that. My biggest questions with press are HOW LONG will the rubber o-ring create a seal? Will aggressive water cause the o-ring to deteriorate? Solder can last 100 years. Will the rubber do the same????
Saliva?? Am I the only one that is thinking, and if this went to your kitchen faucet, where you get drinking water out of.. and you just put saliva in your pipe with your drinking water?? Illl.. uh, no..
But my big problem is.. how long do these rubber washers last? For now it may be good, but I have never had a rubber washer that did not get old, brittle, or lose its seal in time.. so for now, it might be great.. but can you guarantee that the rubber will still be good, and sealed, 20 years later.. Especially if the pipe is in a place where it gets a bit of movement from vibrations and stuff? I know a soldered connection can last like that, but can the rubber washer in this last like that?
What would you recommend as a lubricant? Some cancer-causing chemical???? The saliva was applied to the outside wall of the tubing, not the inside.
Your question about the o-ring life-expectancy is a great one. I wonder the same. Reach out to the press fitting manufacturers and ask them. When you get the answer, come back and post it in your next comment.
Hiring a tool would cost as much as hiring a plumber to do a small job like this. 👍 ask for an estimate & decide for yourself.
The plumbers where you live must work for $10 per hour... You can rent one of these tools for $50 a day: www.activeplumbing.com/toolrental