Train Makers (Horwich Works, 1981)
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- The glories of BREL - British Rail Engineering Limited - are celebrated in this promotional film looking at two of the company's 13 workshops, at Horwich in Lancashire and Crewe, in which locomotives and carriages are built for British Rail and companies overseas. This film is aimed at recruiting graduates to join as engineers, and follows a group of trainees, including one young woman - or "girl", as she's tellingly referred to.
This film was produced by British Transport Films, a prolific film unit which won many awards, including an Oscar. It made films for internal training and external promotion, chiefly for British Rail.
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This video isn't made by me, this description was taken from this.. there's much more of this footage, but this is the only part that contains the works.
player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/w... - Zábava
Watching this, You realise how much this country's engineering has gone down the pan ; globalisation and privatisation will be seen like a great plague for future generations.
I went to Rolls Royce Motors Ltd Diesel division 1976, Apprenticeship, Qualified in 1980, redundant in 1983, factory closed a few years ago. What a waste of talent our Thatcher great leader wasted.
It was nationalisation in the 70's and the trade unions that started the decline.
@@williamstephens9945 trade unions were going long before the 1970’s
Thatcher was convinced to buy from abroad which is why most of our industry collapsed
That’s why I was made redundant
Thatcher was always after the cheap option at the expense of our own people
Privatisation has caused the Railfreight sector to boom! I should know as a freight driver. And our imported American locos are head and shoulders over all the old BR type 5’s.
I grew up watching my father run a Precision Engineering business during the 60's and it breaks my heart to see what has happened to manufacturing in our country now. Building trains for abroad eh, we cant even build our own now, how sad is that?
At school they always said BR was one of the best places to get good training. To see BREL works on open days quite something, Upholstery, carpentry, electrical, fabrication and foundry work to name a few. It is so sad to see how we now import our trains rather than us building and exporting them. The skills this country has lost over the years have cost us dearly and made us so dependant on imports that often seem to be sub standard.
People voted for the loss, let them have it.
@@userscott They did, and in schools it was also Elf n Safety put an end to teaching skills like welding using acid pickle baths and foundry casting, all of which were taught in my school. When I went back years later to an open evening I found all the lathes milling machines and grinding machines were gone, my old teacher was there and said they no longer taught anything like in my day, now the focus is on robotics programming and the nearest they got to making anything was a key ring fob from Perspex. By doing that is has made school leavers look for jobs other than in heavy engineering.
At 1 pm on Friday, 23 December 1983 Horwich Works closed after 97 years.
Sadly in the UK all these Engineering skills are no longer with us, In the British Rail Days we had Horwich Works, Swindon Works, Crewe Works, St Rollox Works in Glasgow, Ashford Works, Doncaster Works, & Shildon Works the latter for Wagons, All which have sadly closed Down, Part of Doncaster works was purchased by a private railway company & lucky we still have the Very High Quality Eastleigh Works, Derby & Wolverton, Sadly most of the 80's Locos have gone with them.
I was at BREL Glasgow in '81 with 3500 others
.....it was all gone by 86 - I went to Australia...never went back
Probably The Best Move U Ever Made,,👍
Great era to learn Engineering
My, we really have gone down the toilet over the last few decades. So much forward thinking, way back then. Look at us now. 😢
I love the lady holding her own !
That's Ann Durrant, I was part of the intake with her (Huw Rees) and I recognize all the other guys too. Yes, Ann could definitely "hold her own" and then some!
I have been at BREL for 52 years now. Man, & boy.
I visited Horwich Works and there was a Bury line Class 504 unit in as well as those from Southern Region
I used to love going to Horwich works open days, sadly gone. Now, like nearly all sites like this, its a housing estate.
Drawing office looks pretty old-fashioned. the company I worked for in 1981 had fully changed to computer aided design, and had spent a lot of money digitising old pen-and-paper drawings. There was not a single drafting table in the whole place - only UNIX workstations.
0:43 arc eye
A whacking great housing estate at the back of a football ground and retail park is pretty much whats there now at Horwich.
A very sad film, looking at an organisation on the verge of decimation. People going into something that they didn't know would be dismantled and closed within two decades. A worldwide reputation wasted by a government that knew the price of everything and the value of nothing.
these were jobs with skills you could use throughout your working life jobs that would have enabled to raise a family and buy your own home every one of those jobs supported many other firms who supplied stuff not just the local shops so sad to think we can only offer such a limited future to are youngsters
That voice over is very familiar and I can't remember where I've heard him before. No doubt a regular through the 70s and before.
Sounds like Gary Watson.
@@nkt1 I've looked up Gary Watson as I have some old recordings with him in Public Eye and Callan and it's not his voice. Whoever it is did some voice overs for TV commercials and public informational broadcasts but I can't recollect which ones. It's really nagging me now you've mentioned it.
@@QuoPaperPlane He sounds similar, although not identical, to the narration on the Class 43 rescue/coupling film, which I'm fairly sure is Watson.
I think it's the voice behind Bill & Ben, The Daleks and the original Zippy in Rainbow - Peter Hawkins.
@@superbracey Did Peter Hawkins do the introduction voice over to Super Ted because that's the voice. I'll do a search but if you beat me to it, can you let me know?
These trades have all but disappeared, we've nothing left, literally.... try getting a decent centre lathe turner or a welder fabricator, no one is coming through and haven't been for decades, our heavy industrial engineering industry is no existent and soon we won't even be able to make our own steel .... and why ? Because everything has been sold and privatised, our core industries should NEVER have been sold, it's an utter disgrace
Our industry has been 'suicided'
Sad thing is critical industries destroyed or in the hands of foreign companies that have, or will have in future, us by the short and c.............
It’s being turned into a massive housing estate
Don't worry, we now have really good barista's!
No jobs but great coffee Macky 🤣🤣
0.36 Crewe Works
This seemed to be more about Horwich and BREL in general than Swindon
That's what I've been thinking recently too, thank you, I'll change the title lol
Wonder how those students faired? Are they all still on the railway?
A quick search shows Chris Shepperd ended up as a Director at what is now Bombardier. So not bad I'd say.
All did well, few stayed in Rail for long. This was an unusual year - probably an over-reach away from the engineer stereotype. An inquiry was held!
He worked for MacDonalds as a chip frier, then decided to become a manager on the railways .
What Went Wrong,,,,,SOLD DOWN THE RIVER,,,,,,,,,ENGLAND SINKING🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
don't vote tory. Simple
What went wrong? Three things:-
# a government that meddles in industry, taking over and forcing mergers;
# rotten British quality;
# unions with a them-and-us conflict attitude.
6th richest nation, we've just changed to a more service country. We've allowed other countries to take over the dirty dangerous jobs that the british public won't do anymore.
@@stewartellinson8846 Blair and New Labour wrecked the UK with diversity...which we never voted for.
@@malthusXIII-fo3ep pillock. Diversity is an inherent fact of human existence.
Now you can be an apprentice at greggs.....what a disaster!!!
The greatest animal on the planet was Captain Sulzer and his exceedingly good diesel engines Napier's had a very small weight for their huge power output Rudyard Hull and his DMU😂😂😂
Any American Railfanners here?
>:( *steam lover anger build* LOOK AT THIS THIFEL THIS OILY WORKSERS LOOK AT THEM THEY REPLACED STEAM KIND AND THEY SAID IT WOULD BE THE FUTRUE
In English please
Why not just scrap these rot boxes and buy or build newer, better,..more reliable?
and joining the eu killed all this
Don't be silly. Horwich closed in 1983, the EU didn't exist until 1993.
@@teddansonLA But Ted Heath signed us up for the EEC in 1972 which became the EU in 1993.
@@levelcrossing150 And so we both agree the original poster is confused. Of course the original poster wouldn't be able to explain how joining the EEC destroyed UK industry, because at some point he'd have to recognise the transformation of the UK from 1979 which mirrored what what happening in the USA under Reagan. So his point would still be silly.
??? how abour the eec same beast different name , like the 1st division etc. joining the eu / eec whatever yawn killed all our industry as per policy @@teddansonLA
No, the tories killed this. Even as this film was being made, BR was being chopped up into bits that could be sold off - by the Major government - to their mates. then they decided it was cheaper elsewhere. The EU has never had any impact on the UK's engineering but the tories destroyed it.