@@lakerskid2013not true. People cry about teams not making the field of 68 in march madness. People said it would go away when they expanded, but it didn’t.
Best argument against those 13th place teams, win your conference and you would have been in. At least in this 12 team playoff the 5 highest ranked champs are in. JUST WIN YOUR CONFERENCE, no excuse to complain anymore.
One reason I never liked college football as much as the NFL is because you essentially stood no chance of winning a natty or even making the 4 team playoff unless you’re a fan of the same 10 blue blood programs. If you weren’t a fan of a modern blue blood like Bama, Georgia, OSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, Clemson etc. it just felt like your season could only reach a certain ceiling. Your school could be an undefeated team and win a power 5 conference championship and still be left out due to strength of schedule. Then if you lose even one or two games you are absolutely COOKED. Now, you can afford to drop a game or two and still get a lower seed in the playoffs. Even if it’s a blowout, there is still a chance for an upset or at least the satisfaction of knowing you had a shot at one
@@vp_wrld The playoffs change nothing. Those 10 bluebloods will continue to win. The teams that cannot compete but make the playoffs will now be brutalized in a shameful bloodsport style, 60+ point defeats and serious injury. UGA, Bama, Texas, Miami, or OSU are foing to win. A Memphis, Liberty or OkieSt are going to be beat mercilessly. College Football has been has been insanely popular for 130+years. This is a thoughtlessly designed cash grab. UCLA in Maryland or New Jersey annually is trash.
This is made clear during the BYU year. Going into that orange bowl, everyone said Oklahoma would be the national champion if they won, where as if Washington won, which is what happened, they weren't worthy of the same national title because they were...just Washington...and not one of the chosen teams.
It might improve over time, but this year, we're gonna get gross rematches and savage, savage play off beatdowns. 12 teams is too many... most years 4 teams was too many.
@Jalreal If the playoffa had been expanded earlier, this might have been avoided since the SEC might have been exposed to more upsets and keeping the networks from consolidating their influence. But they were always going ro tey to do this, and it would have been easier under the old system. Look at how the corporate interests tried to destroy European soccer. The fans over there refused and even broke into stadiums to stage protests. And those were the fans of the big clubs who stood to benefit. But over here, we're so cowed by the moneyed interests that we let them throw away college football's traditions in less than a decade.
@@Jalreal Yep, UCLA in Jersey or Maryland annually. Pac12 and Big12 destroyed for virtually no reason. Bowl games are no longer rewards and compelling matchups. FSU losing by 60 in a bowl game cause the entire team opted out. TCU breathlessly given an opportunity to be destroyed in the worst championship matchup ever "Thunder Dome" style,(Two team enter, one team leave). Two out of Bama, Texas or UGA could play each other 3 times this year! We'll see.
@@zingbangpow What do you mean TCU was given an opportunity in the national championship game? They won their semifinal game. They earned the right to be there.
@Klako-ls6yt I dunno man. All respect to TCU.. that was a year where there were not 4 top teams, and TCU wasn't the 2nd best team. Nobody wanted the UGA Bama rematch, and 4 spots were too many anyway. The results speak for themselves. Enough 65-7 finals will destroy CFB. The expansion to 12 is going to create an environment where these mismatches are not just inevitable but common. Memphis or Liberty in a playoff for "fairness"? That's not fair, it's going to get ugly.
Yeah sounds about right. But one of them only in for a year. One busted the BCS twice and wound up in the Conference of Cannibalism and proved their strength time and time again, and gave us one of the greatest Rose Bowls of all time.
If FCS, Division 2, Division 3, NAIA, JuCo, 3C2A can have an organized playoff system, the FBS should have been easy. They need to fully go into playoff system; so, you can't do both.
@@manzac112 I don’t know what number would be the answer but I’d be all on board for a 32 team playoff. Now if you’re ranked in the top 25, you’re automatically in but of course they could utilize home field advantage in the first and possibly second rounds as well. There would be 7 at large teams and on the two sides of the brackets there’s 1-16 so the 16th seeds would basically be the 31st and 32nd ranked teams and the list goes down from there. The way I see it is if you’re good enough to be ranked, you’re good enough to be having at least a fighting chance to go all the way. Every year there’s at worst a 4 loss team in the tail end of the rankings or getting votes so it wouldn’t be quite full blown rewarding bad play, there’s still going to be teams above .500 at least in a 32-team system.
There's one very large exception not being considered, FBS has conference championship games and for all conferences. The other divisions don't. So while the conference championship game isn't technically a playoff game they do have ramifications, and for the G5 are de facto elimnation games. If you want to go to anything greater than 16, you would need to eliminate conference championships and repurpose that week as a first round playoff.
The old format honestly ruined the sport for me. It was hard to care about teams when you knew their season was over if they lost 1 game but still were a top 5 team
Losing should matter. But the old format made losses (unless you were Bama) matter too much. 134 teams into a 4 team playoff was always stupid. 12 is much better
@@Clockwork0nions The exception doesn't make the rule. For Cincinnati to get in, literally everything had to go right for them. If Oklahoma State didn't choke in the Big 12 championship game, Cincinnati gets left out.
You're still having a committee decide the 12 teams Since 1992, the Coaches Poll has been obligated to vote the winner of the National Championship game it's #1 team
If you want to fix the CFB postseason, it's simple: - Tie-breaker seeding system similar to NFL (overall record, conference record, division record, head-to-head, record against common opponents, etc.) - Expand to a 24 team playoff. The FCS level has had a 24-team playoff for about 15 years now. Top 8 get a first round bye, 16 at-large. There are currently enough bowl games to have every game after the first round be a bowl game. That would result in a total of 21 playoff games, and virtually every team that has any argument for a postseason opportunity actually has that opportunity. If that had been in place last year, then the worst team in the playoffs would have been 8-4 Clemson. Additionally, the NFL has a 14-team playoff in a league with 32 teams, which means 44% of teams are playing for a Super Bowl come January. The FCS has a 24-team playoff with a league of 120, which is about 20% of teams. The NBA (including play-ins) has a 20-team bracket in a 30 team league, which is 67%, CBB has a 68-team bracket in a league of 355, which is 19%, MLB has a 12-team playoff in a league of 30, which is 40%. Every single other college or professional league has a playoff that includes the top 20%-40% of teams, and the top seed has not won a majority of any of those titles, so why on earth did anyone think it was a good idea to have a 4-team playoff in a league of 134 teams, allowing only the top 3% to play for a title??
Because it should be elite. Maybe these other leagues let too many teams into the playoffs (NBA comes to mind immediately). Here is my suggestion. If you are in a P5 conference, you can only play P5 schools. Go find you a Vanderbilt or Rutgers if you want an easy game.
@@jmiyagi12345 I agree with your suggestion to only play at your level, but I have to disagree with your idea of "it should be elite". If you're really an elite team, then it shouldn't matter whether it's 2 games to win a title or 4 games to win a title. The facts remain: the majority of league titles are won by teams that are not the number 1 seed in their portion of the bracket. Look at the first 5 years of the 4-team playoff. Not a single 1-seed won it all. The first one was won by 4-seed Ohio State. Clemson, even though they went undefeated, never won it all as a 1-seed. The first to do it was 2019 LSU. 2020 Alabama finally went fully undefeated and won as a 1-seed, but that was their 5th trip to the playoffs. Georgia didn't win undefeated until their 3rd trip to the playoffs, and the same with Michigan. Additionally, the 40 total CFP spots over the 10 years of a 4-team playoff were occupied by a total of 15 teams, and 8 of those 15 teams made 3+ appearances (and won 9 of those 10 titles), so there were really only 7 out of the 40 total playoff spots that were "new blood". Additionally, when the playoff first started, the 2-seed actually made more title game appearances than the 1-seed. Why did I say all this? Because seeding doesn't determine on-field results. However, when your system has put the same 8 teams against each other every single year, giving no one else a chance, it's no wonder that those 8 start to figure out the tricks to be successful. 2019 LSU (and technically 2015 Ohio State) was the only team that went in and won it all in its first CFP appearance. Not even Alabama was able to do that. Neither did Clemson, nor Georgia, nor Michigan. This also goes back to the absolutely baffling idea of having a 4-week bye before any playoff games. This was actually something that plagued 1980's BYU, who dominated in the regular season but always struggled come bowl season. When you are firing on all cylinders at the end of the season after your conference championship game, it's incredibly hard to take a full month off and come right back in with the same intensity. That would be a very reasonable explanation for why certain teams (TCU, Michigan State, and Cincinnati) struggled. They didn't regularly make it to NY6 bowl games, so they didn't know how to come back after such a long time and keep their rhythm and timing going. Every single CFP champion, except for 2019 LSU played in at 2 NY6 bowl games within 3 years prior to winning their repesctive titles. That means that your biggest predictor for success in the 4-team format is whether you can win a NY6 bowl game. So, if that's the biggest indicator, why not make all of those teams play each other to see who really is the most elite? After all, who would've really come out on top in a 12-team playoff last year? Seeing so many elite teams from every single power conference will only further my point that matchups are key, which is how upsets happen. The only way to truly level the playing field like that is to open the bracket up and give everyone their fair shot. After all, a championship title isn't awarded to the "best" team, it's awarded to whoever wins all of their games.
Amen brother! This is what I have been saying for years! You can't have 4 out of 130 teams play in the playoffs and call it a national championship, especially when the majority of conferences don't even get a chance to play for the championship.
I still to this day have no idea why an 8 team playoff was shot down so quickly. 6 games, 1 for each NY6 bowl then the natty. the talent drop off from 8-12 is so much larger then from 4-8 and yes theres a better chance of someone getting snubbed but it also prevents the best 4 teams in the country from getting a bye. Imagine if you are boise state and you have a perfect season and get in at the 9 seed for the G5 team. you upset the #8 team in penn state on the road and now your reward for a perfect season (with a very notable P5 win) is to then play the #1 team in ohio state who has an extra week of rest? I understand that the playoffs are a gauntlet for everyone but you are really screwing over the Cinderellas that the nation could get behind. I know that everyone in the country (besides alabama fans) were rooting for cincinnati when they got into the playoff. It just baffles my mind and I've yet to see a good reason why they went to 12 team over 8 team other than more ad revenue.
Because each P5 (at the time) conference wanted a chance to include 2 schools in the playoff. 8 teams assured that atleast 3 of the P5 conferences would only have 1 school.
It obviously allows teams like last years Georgia team to win a title. You give at least one group of 5 team a shot. Say next year 2 SEC teams are 11-1 , two BIG teams are 11-1, that's 4 teams plus a group of 5 team, an ACC champ, a big 12 champ, so at 7. 5 more teams seems a bit much. We will annually see 3 SEC, 3 BIG, group of 5, 2 BIG 12, and 2 ACC and still have 1 more team. I say cap the max per conference to 3 teams
Historically, in the BCS and CFP era, the controversy has revolved around teams ranked 2 through 6. Its never involved teams ranked 7-12. But by allowing the latter teams to be injected into the playoffs why should #1 team have to prove themselves against #12? Bit of a waste, at the expense of intellectualism.
If the G5 is continued to receive an invite via auto bid it would be interesting to incorporate a play-in bracket or even round robin instead of relying on polls. This could give schools an opportunity to host a playoff game and give more national exposure opportunities for the competing programs. To make something like this work schedule wise, the G5 would need to have all their seasons start on week 0 (if even possible), and potential eliminate the conference championship game and/or reduce their season schedule by a game.
@@1320_ikimashoyea most people were arguing for a 6 team playoff. I think some more wanted to go to 8 with all 5 conference champs + 3 more. 12 seems like way too much. What’s likely to happen is a #1 or #2 team is gonna have a key player get injured playing a team they easily outclass then when they play another strong opponent in the semi’s or finals that 1 player could make the difference.
@@reverend_wintondupree I say give each of the for now power 4 soon to be power 3 no more than 3 teams and allow the possibility of a second or 3rd group of 5 teams an invite. So the power 3 each get 3 teams in. Allow the highest ranked teams fill the void there should be 3 slots for GO5 and a team or two for what's left of the ACC if they are ranked high enough. Notre Dame is always going to be lurking around taking a spot every year just because
I watched NASCAR for 10 years. They went all in on entertainment over anything else and it's an absolute train wreck of a sport. I started watching Indycar and never went back.
@jjrossitee Personally I prefer letting the drivers race without interference and let the best drivers win. NASCAR likes to manipulate the race for entertainment and it often changes the outcome of the race. I don't like it but if you do then that's fine.
The amount of teams was a problem but the biggest problem is thinking playoff spots should be determined by a committee. There needs to be some objective way to make the standings. Other sports can just use record but CFB could do something like use strength of record to determine the standings
I always wondered what having a playoff with the old format of 4 or now 12 would be like if the computers chose the teams and not a committee of people
Actually the very first CFP year in 2014 was controversial because TCU was ranked at 4 with their only loss to a top 10 team in Baylor that year but then somehow Ohio State gets to leapfrog them in the final rankings whenever they were 6th and then to add insult to injury TCU gets dropped two spots out of the last spot at 6th behind Baylor. Now I’m not saying for sure that TCU team would’ve won it all but they deserved to be in that year over Ohio State. In addition, there’s such double standards that have happened with the 4 team playoff system that it’s gotten quite ridiculous. Ohio State that year lost not only their starting QB but even their backup as well yet they were given the benefit of the doubt but 2023 Florida State couldn’t have? I bet you anything if that was Ohio State or Alabama in Florida State’s spot they would’ve been kept in at the 4th spot while in 2014 TCU wouldn’t have been provided the opportunity had roles been reversed to jump from 6th to 4th in that year’s final rankings before the games started. Now in 2016 that was another controversy happening with Penn State who lost 2 games but they beat Ohio State head to head, got to their conference championship, won it, yet still got left out over an Ohio State team who might’ve had just 1 loss but didn’t even get there. If roles were reversed, the committee would’ve played favorites to make sure the Buckeyes were in even with 2 losses. I’m really glad that this has been an expanded playoff format because it’s been well overdue for quite a while now and 12 teams is a really good start for settling controversy. I’m not saying it’ll completely end but controversy with 12 versus 13 won’t be nearly as bad as 4 versus 5
You cannot compare 2014 Ohio state and 2023 Florida state when it comes to losing their QB’s because Ohio State even with their third string QB absolutely annihilated Wisconsin 59-0 in the Big10 championship while Florida state struggled heavily to beat Louisville 16-6 in the ACC championship. In one case it was obvious losing the starting QB did not matter and in the other case it was obvious it did matter.
@@parkerstraw5298 They make for a great case too. If one didn’t get put in, the other one easily could’ve but leaving them both out wasn’t right on any level. If Ohio State was already at 4 going into that final weekend, the committee would’ve easily kept them there and not give TCU or Baylor a chance. That year was of course favoritism for that 4th spot alongside what’s happened in 2016 and 2023 as well. If Ohio State was the team with 2 losses winning the Big Ten in 2016, they would’ve gotten the extra treatments to get put in 4th. As for Alabama, an undefeated SEC champion even if they lost Jalen Milroe would’ve gotten in over a 1-loss Florida State team because of favoritism and not really about strength of conference, strength of schedule, etc. Unfortunately nobody really likes to really think things this way and there’s not many really seeing through the BS.
I dont think 2016 Penn state was that much of a snub because they still did lose to a mediocre pitt team and got blown out by Michigan who Osu beat that year and osu had a better record than psu that year as well
Yeah so I guess we all forget that a G5 team did make it in not 5 years ago with Cincinnati….. convenient that this was never mentioned in this video….
@@andrewgygi1608 In any given year, sure. But the rate at which that discussion can't be determined by objective results and data shows that the system itself never truly worked at determining that, it just got lucky with certain years situations.
@@andrewgygi1608 Except there have been multiple times in the 2 AND 4 team championships series that have had too many teams that were worthy but not enough spots so some where left out. It's subjectively better to have TOO MANY teams in the running to guarantee all the worthy teams get an opportunity and then it will be up to their play on the field to showcase that they are actually the top team in the country. Thus, this will be the only time we've had a system that guarantees an objective "best team".
@@TheRayzerBandit I agree, but saying this is the “first real national champion” is stupid. If you had a 12 team playoff every year for the last hundred years, Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Miami, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc. still would have dominated
11:25-11:43 Yeah…It’s almost like expanding the CFP and forcing more teams to shoot for the ultimate national title means they’re just always gonna lose! I know! I know! Crazy logic, right? Why on Earth would something like THAT happen?
Honestly I think it should be a 16 team tournament... Every conference to include the G5's conference champions should get an automatic bid... That would mean nine automatic bids and six at large teams..... Basically 4, 4 team brackets with the higher seed getting a home field first round game...A regional championship and a final four... The most any team would have to play is 4 games... Every other level already has this.....
As an auburn fan I’m confused on how you say benefit of the doubt we literally have a top 5 strength of schedule and a lot of the sec is too 5-10 and your favorite school wouldn’t be able to hang in the sec
the media was hung up on the fact that Auburn played The Citadel. Never mind that the rest of their schedule was a lot tougher that USC and Oklahoma's .
I could be wrong, but I think having an expanded playoff helps recruitment for teams outside of the traditional powers. Because now you don’t have to go to one to have a chance at a championship.
the college education system in the U.S. is a business first and foremost always. so imagine how they treat their most coveted and profitable sport. its one big happy, money making, family.
The problem is pretty simple, the quality disparity between the best FBS team in the worst FBS team is absolutely massive and so equivalent records aren't equivalent to each other really because schedules matter a lot. I feel like it's pretty much impossible to get a system that is objective or going to satisfy everyone. Frankly they should split FBS into a higher tier in a lower tier if they want things to be more consistent.
That's only a problem if you let it be a problem. Other sports have the same situation where there's a huge gap between the best teams and the worst teams, but they don't let it be a problem.They give the smaller teams a chance to compete even if they are severely outclassed. The UEFA Champions League, for example, doesn't exclude teams from the smallest countries in Europe from competing. Sometimes you get games where one team's entire payroll is less than the salary of a single player of their opponent.
@@Klako-ls6ytthat's funny cause it's called the champions League, so a league of all the champions of domestic leagues yet some champions are worse than a mid tier EPL team.
@@Klako-ls6yt I don't know about you but personally I'm not interested in watching absolute curb stomps of games it's extremely boring when the skill Gap is extremely huge as it is in college football. It just makes for a worse product.
@@chicken29843 Then don't call it a national championship if you want teams eliminated from contention before opening kickoff. It's not a legitimate championship if that's the case.
@@leehaiko3999 Yeah, and those champions get an opportunity to compete in the Champions League while the mid-tier EPL team doesn't. That's the point. The Champions League doesn't exclude the smaller countries.
You didn't even have to notice his handle to guess which one of 2 or 3 colleges this guy supported. The screaming and crying about the expanded playoff is all coming from those schools that have had everythign handed to them for decades.
Nah what they should do is have the whole season be a massive bracket. And then once you lose and are out of the bracket you get a regular schedule against other schools that lost in your round.
I can’t take anyone seriously who sees FSU being left out as a problem but is willing to handwave teams like undefeated UCF being left out twice in a row. G5 schools decided it on the field just as much as FSU did. It just screams selfish “I don’t care until it happens to me” behavior.
I think the 12 team playoff is gonna be awesome. Should’ve been done 30 years ago. The crappy part will be when Big 12, ACC, & G5 only get one team each. Need more P4 on P4 nonconference games in the future to properly measure up conference strength, like basketball.
As a casual FBS follower at best, the way a definitive champion is decided has been confusing. Hope the 12-team playoff format will solve most of the problems. Still, the seedings are best decided with a fair and simple formula, if possible, rather than subjectively.
11:40 ok then, name teams that would have had better results in those games, because you can’t. The Bama-Michigan game was a classic. FSU would have gotten killed like they did vs UGA and everyone knows it.
I dont know if it wouldve been as bad as the georgia game bc most of fsu's starters opted out of that game whereas if they were in the rose bowl against michigan everyone besides jordan travis would be playing however I still think they wouldn't come within 3 scores of Michigan
How to fix the regular season and make it important again, copy the UFC and have the regular season champion (1 seed)wait at the top for someone through the playoffs to challenge them
What it’s going to do is simply include multiple teams from the mega conferences. Teams like Boise State still won’t get in. Alabama, Georgia and LSU will get in every year. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State too. It won’t help the small schools. The teams I mentioned draw ratings, especially when they play each other.
We better hope that there aren’t multiple G5 teams going undefeated from here on out. Honestly, the most “fair” version of a playoff would be a 28 team playoff, each conference gets an auto bid, with the top 4 conference champs getting a bye. Until every conference champion is able to get into the playoff, there’s always going to be potential for a team getting undeservedly screwed.
@@lukebishop8858 We won’t even know how feasible it is until we see how the 12 team playoff goes for 5 years or so. If 12 teams works out really well, all you’re really adding is one additional weekend of scheduling. You’d also need to wait for the NIL/school payment structure to stabilize so kids are getting compensated properly for playing so many additional games.
I hope it doesn't work the way it does in NCAA 25. Was ranked 8th as Navy and didn't make the playoffs. Was ranked 1st as Navy the following 3 years and had to play an extra game each year.
My only dispute is they should have gone with an 8-team playoff. However, the one benefit that a 12- team playoff has that an 8 does not, is homefield advantage for the 1st round. A college playoff game at their own stadium? Uhhhh yes please!
Its still a committee deciding every slot except the Top 4 being conference champs. For ever blow out in the playoff, there is a instant classic on the other side. You will till have non power 5 teams getting "snubbed", and blown out. You will still have the random semi finals where you expect a show, end up being blow outs like the Clemson over Bama in like 2016, and Bama over Ohio state in 2020, GA stomping TCU. In fact i am willing to bet we will have MORE one sided games, the first round will be ugly more often than not. How long till we are trying to make it 16 teams? Or start giving G5 teams pity slots.
In an effort to prevent the same teams from always winning, we now have a system that will guarantee that only a few teams have any shot at winning a national championship. Also, the regular season now has much less meaning so that casual fans can only watch the playoffs and so that the playoff spots can now be contested by mediocre teams (vying for the top 12) instead of top teams (vying for the top 4.)
The tired "regular season won't mean as much" b.s. argument is the stupidest one the bowl people ever injected into dumb fans' heads, and showing how easily manipulated they are, these pinecones dutifully repeated it as if it meant something. Here's a hint for you: for 95% of all college football teams, the moment they lost their first game, the rest of the regular season became meaningless. A playoff makes the regular season much more important as every game counts, and your last month of games isn't irrelevant because everyone already has 2 losses.
I know Florida won the championship back in 2006 or 7 but they shouldn't have been there to begin with with the strength of schedule stuff since Florida lost to an unranked team and Michigan lost to Ohio State. Should have been a BLUE and scarlet rematch
Playoffs, especially as they are done here in the U.S., are for MONEY, not for sporting reasons. I'll never in a million years understand why some of the issues you describe in this video are seen as insane, but a 3-loss 11th seed from the SEC who lost to the 0-loss 1st seed from the SEC in both the regular season and conference championship, could beat them in the championship final by a point and magically that doesn't create any problems for people. The problem with something like college football is that you can't view the "national championship" as the goal, because there are too many teams and not enough games (and there never will be). I've always viewed college football as first and foremost a CONFERENCE championship sport -- i.e., you play to win your conference. Once you have done that, you play to win a prestigious bowl game against ideally another conference champion. Then at the end of the day there is a "national championship" awarded as an extra. I always thought that system worked really, really well if people understood that the real goals of the season were the conference title and the Bowl win, which helped to foster great rivalries and longstanding traditions, and frankly made it fun with all the regional bragging rights. Yes, basketball has March Madness, but let's be honest that the powers that be like that because of REVENUE. Many years it's a godawful way of picking a champion.
Personally I just think the playoff field needs to be a power of 2. No auto byes for the best teams which essentially tilts the playing field in their favor. I think 8 teams with a straight up quarterfinal and semifinal is perfect.
I always wanted 16 teams-all conference champs + at larges, seed them by polls or committee, similar to March Madness. I can live with 12 because there is almost no scenario in which an undefeated team gets left out. People may whine about a team like Liberty 2023 in a playoff, but that team would have to win 3 games against top competition, one being a true road game-the same route as any 3-loss big conference team whiners would want in that spot anyway. It's not perfect, but there is no perfect way to determine the best team in a 130 team league that plays 12 games in its regular season.
For the last decade the best team in the country has been ndsu, a fcs team. To resolve this the fcs and fbs champions should play in the first week,of the season.
My only disagreement is that a twelve playoff game is that it's going to exhaust the players and they need there rest and a 4 playoff game, 6 playoff game or 8 playoff game would have made more sense to me because I would have loved for the college football playoff to keep it the same with 4 playoff game or come up with a compromise to make it a 6 playoff game or 8 playoff game because 12 games is way too much and I understand they want to play for more NIL money but players are going to going to get hurt with a 12 playoff game and I wish that they wouldn't do that because it's too complex and it's not good for college football players and college football and I liked it better when it was 2 semi finals games and the two winners to advance to a national championship and if they lose in the Conference championship they go to a bowl game and I disagree with the 12 college football playoff game and I'm upset about the move they unanimously and intentionally made and thats a mistake and I don't like it and nobody likes a 12 college football playoff game. That's not right. I wish that wouldn't do that. I wish they wouldn't do that at all. I hate it.
They need forced conference realignment to 16 conferences, all with conference championships where the winner plays on in the playoff while the loser goes to a bowl game
2003 being a "split" championship is a myth. LSU won the BCS title: the fact that USC was on top of the AP poll doesn't matter since the AP was only one part of the BCS formula. Still, a good review, nonetheless!
@SamwiseTheNotSoBrave I mean it's kind of accepted. The AP and coaches said screw the bcs that season and voted usc the national champs and awarded them the #1 ranking at the end of the season.
Always felt Florida state didn’t play many good teams, heck, they for most of the second half scrapping just to hold on and beat Louisville and at no point did I think they looked like champion material.
They couldn't get the best two teams right. They couldn't get the best 4 teams right. What makes anyone think they are going to get the 12 team playoffs right? 😂
The playoff problem begins and ends with letting in teams that don’t win their conference. Beat your rival, win your conference, win your bowl game, then playoff the 4 major bowl winners, who should only be conference champions. This is basically anarchy and will end when the SEC and BIG eat the other conferences.
To all the Clemson haters, go ahead and look at who has had the most blowouts in the playoffs. And since the playoffs have started only 3 teams have won 2 or more times. Bama, Clemson, Georiga. Oh and the only school to play in the championship more than Clemson is Bama. The list is the same Bama 6 times, Clemson 4 times and Georiga 3 times.
@@lougiacobbi725 no but I can literally see it on the field and I can see it with championships and I can see it with playoff appearances, and how they perform in the playoffs can pretty much guarantee a SEC school will win the championship this year and not a single SEC opponent will lose to another conference in the playoffs. They will only lose to each other.
The playoff needs to and will be abolished by the Make College Football Great Again movement who will take the whole sport back to the twentieth century with only polls and bowls deciding a champion. It will also be helped by lawmakers undoing realignment and abolishing NIL. Like there would be a major exodus of players upset about national championships being decided by polls again?
I hate when I click on these videos and it takes me back 100 years in history. If you need to fill your videos up with wikipedia articles do a much better job. This shit is boring and there are 10 other CFB youtubers out there.
Can’t wait to hear people complain about their team being ranked 13th and that they should’ve been 12th😂😂😂
At least it won’t be nearly as much controversy as a 5th ranked team not getting 4th
@@lakerskid2013not true. People cry about teams not making the field of 68 in march madness. People said it would go away when they expanded, but it didn’t.
The twelfth seed probably won’t even make it in
@@Bravesfan12345They have less argument there rather than the 5
Best argument against those 13th place teams, win your conference and you would have been in.
At least in this 12 team playoff the 5 highest ranked champs are in.
JUST WIN YOUR CONFERENCE, no excuse to complain anymore.
One reason I never liked college football as much as the NFL is because you essentially stood no chance of winning a natty or even making the 4 team playoff unless you’re a fan of the same 10 blue blood programs. If you weren’t a fan of a modern blue blood like Bama, Georgia, OSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, Clemson etc. it just felt like your season could only reach a certain ceiling. Your school could be an undefeated team and win a power 5 conference championship and still be left out due to strength of schedule. Then if you lose even one or two games you are absolutely COOKED. Now, you can afford to drop a game or two and still get a lower seed in the playoffs. Even if it’s a blowout, there is still a chance for an upset or at least the satisfaction of knowing you had a shot at one
@@vp_wrld The playoffs change nothing. Those 10 bluebloods will continue to win. The teams that cannot compete but make the playoffs will now be brutalized in a shameful bloodsport style, 60+ point defeats and serious injury. UGA, Bama, Texas, Miami, or OSU are foing to win. A Memphis, Liberty or OkieSt are going to be beat mercilessly. College Football has been has been insanely popular for 130+years. This is a thoughtlessly designed cash grab. UCLA in Maryland or New Jersey annually is trash.
This is made clear during the BYU year. Going into that orange bowl, everyone said Oklahoma would be the national champion if they won, where as if Washington won, which is what happened, they weren't worthy of the same national title because they were...just Washington...and not one of the chosen teams.
Well, the handful of blue bloods will still dominate
The FCS has only had 6 different national champions in the past 20 years. And blue blood status is way more important in NCAA basketball than football
Fcs, d2, and d3 figured this shit out a long time ago.
So did NAIA and NJCAA.
Obsession with national championships ruined century-old rivalries and I will never forgive the TV networks for bastardizing this sport.
It might improve over time, but this year, we're gonna get gross rematches and savage, savage play off beatdowns. 12 teams is too many... most years 4 teams was too many.
@Jalreal If the playoffa had been expanded earlier, this might have been avoided since the SEC might have been exposed to more upsets and keeping the networks from consolidating their influence. But they were always going ro tey to do this, and it would have been easier under the old system.
Look at how the corporate interests tried to destroy European soccer. The fans over there refused and even broke into stadiums to stage protests. And those were the fans of the big clubs who stood to benefit. But over here, we're so cowed by the moneyed interests that we let them throw away college football's traditions in less than a decade.
@@Jalreal Yep, UCLA in Jersey or Maryland annually. Pac12 and Big12 destroyed for virtually no reason. Bowl games are no longer rewards and compelling matchups. FSU losing by 60 in a bowl game cause the entire team opted out. TCU breathlessly given an opportunity to be destroyed in the worst championship matchup ever "Thunder Dome" style,(Two team enter, one team leave). Two out of Bama, Texas or UGA could play each other 3 times this year! We'll see.
@@zingbangpow What do you mean TCU was given an opportunity in the national championship game? They won their semifinal game. They earned the right to be there.
@Klako-ls6yt I dunno man. All respect to TCU.. that was a year where there were not 4 top teams, and TCU wasn't the 2nd best team. Nobody wanted the UGA Bama rematch, and 4 spots were too many anyway. The results speak for themselves. Enough 65-7 finals will destroy CFB. The expansion to 12 is going to create an environment where these mismatches are not just inevitable but common. Memphis or Liberty in a playoff for "fairness"? That's not fair, it's going to get ugly.
So, in a way, 2 schools from the state of Utah brought about the changes we have seen in college football.
Yeah sounds about right. But one of them only in for a year. One busted the BCS twice and wound up in the Conference of Cannibalism and proved their strength time and time again, and gave us one of the greatest Rose Bowls of all time.
If FCS, Division 2, Division 3, NAIA, JuCo, 3C2A can have an organized playoff system, the FBS should have been easy. They need to fully go into playoff system; so, you can't do both.
@@manzac112 I don’t know what number would be the answer but I’d be all on board for a 32 team playoff. Now if you’re ranked in the top 25, you’re automatically in but of course they could utilize home field advantage in the first and possibly second rounds as well. There would be 7 at large teams and on the two sides of the brackets there’s 1-16 so the 16th seeds would basically be the 31st and 32nd ranked teams and the list goes down from there. The way I see it is if you’re good enough to be ranked, you’re good enough to be having at least a fighting chance to go all the way. Every year there’s at worst a 4 loss team in the tail end of the rankings or getting votes so it wouldn’t be quite full blown rewarding bad play, there’s still going to be teams above .500 at least in a 32-team system.
There's one very large exception not being considered, FBS has conference championship games and for all conferences. The other divisions don't. So while the conference championship game isn't technically a playoff game they do have ramifications, and for the G5 are de facto elimnation games.
If you want to go to anything greater than 16, you would need to eliminate conference championships and repurpose that week as a first round playoff.
The old format honestly ruined the sport for me. It was hard to care about teams when you knew their season was over if they lost 1 game but still were a top 5 team
when playing the old ncaa games you legit had to play ever game in a season or risk a loss and not be in the title
Yeah, it sucks so much that losing matters.😒
2007 LSU:
Losing should matter. But the old format made losses (unless you were Bama) matter too much. 134 teams into a 4 team playoff was always stupid. 12 is much better
@@delllaptop6958maybe the playoff should be for the P5 schools. Leave the other bowl games for the G5
A lack of mentioning 2021 Cincinnati making the playoffs as a G5 team
They always forget that because it disproves their arguments for “bias” from the committee.
@@Clockwork0nionseither that or they quickly googled Cincinnati’s conference and saw they are a Big 12 team now and assumed it was the same back then
@@vp_wrld this is probably most likely lol.
@@Clockwork0nionsNot really, but whatever.
@@Clockwork0nions The exception doesn't make the rule. For Cincinnati to get in, literally everything had to go right for them. If Oklahoma State didn't choke in the Big 12 championship game, Cincinnati gets left out.
It’s amazing how slow this has progressed over the last few decades
literally i never realized that the playoffs was born in 2014😭
Correction: NCAA Division 1 football (FCS) has had a 24 team playoff for years. Not D2, D2 does have a playoff format as well though.
Not that many years back. It only grew to 24 in 2013, previously from 20 which started since 2010. Prior to 2010 it had been 16 since 1986.
@@reverend_wintondupree Was also 16 for the spring playoff
You're still having a committee decide the 12 teams
Since 1992, the Coaches Poll has been obligated to vote the winner of the National Championship game it's #1 team
If you want to fix the CFB postseason, it's simple:
- Tie-breaker seeding system similar to NFL (overall record, conference record, division record, head-to-head, record against common opponents, etc.)
- Expand to a 24 team playoff. The FCS level has had a 24-team playoff for about 15 years now. Top 8 get a first round bye, 16 at-large. There are currently enough bowl games to have every game after the first round be a bowl game. That would result in a total of 21 playoff games, and virtually every team that has any argument for a postseason opportunity actually has that opportunity. If that had been in place last year, then the worst team in the playoffs would have been 8-4 Clemson.
Additionally, the NFL has a 14-team playoff in a league with 32 teams, which means 44% of teams are playing for a Super Bowl come January. The FCS has a 24-team playoff with a league of 120, which is about 20% of teams. The NBA (including play-ins) has a 20-team bracket in a 30 team league, which is 67%, CBB has a 68-team bracket in a league of 355, which is 19%, MLB has a 12-team playoff in a league of 30, which is 40%. Every single other college or professional league has a playoff that includes the top 20%-40% of teams, and the top seed has not won a majority of any of those titles, so why on earth did anyone think it was a good idea to have a 4-team playoff in a league of 134 teams, allowing only the top 3% to play for a title??
Because it should be elite. Maybe these other leagues let too many teams into the playoffs (NBA comes to mind immediately).
Here is my suggestion. If you are in a P5 conference, you can only play P5 schools. Go find you a Vanderbilt or Rutgers if you want an easy game.
@@jmiyagi12345 I agree with your suggestion to only play at your level, but I have to disagree with your idea of "it should be elite". If you're really an elite team, then it shouldn't matter whether it's 2 games to win a title or 4 games to win a title. The facts remain: the majority of league titles are won by teams that are not the number 1 seed in their portion of the bracket. Look at the first 5 years of the 4-team playoff. Not a single 1-seed won it all. The first one was won by 4-seed Ohio State. Clemson, even though they went undefeated, never won it all as a 1-seed. The first to do it was 2019 LSU. 2020 Alabama finally went fully undefeated and won as a 1-seed, but that was their 5th trip to the playoffs. Georgia didn't win undefeated until their 3rd trip to the playoffs, and the same with Michigan. Additionally, the 40 total CFP spots over the 10 years of a 4-team playoff were occupied by a total of 15 teams, and 8 of those 15 teams made 3+ appearances (and won 9 of those 10 titles), so there were really only 7 out of the 40 total playoff spots that were "new blood". Additionally, when the playoff first started, the 2-seed actually made more title game appearances than the 1-seed. Why did I say all this? Because seeding doesn't determine on-field results. However, when your system has put the same 8 teams against each other every single year, giving no one else a chance, it's no wonder that those 8 start to figure out the tricks to be successful. 2019 LSU (and technically 2015 Ohio State) was the only team that went in and won it all in its first CFP appearance. Not even Alabama was able to do that. Neither did Clemson, nor Georgia, nor Michigan. This also goes back to the absolutely baffling idea of having a 4-week bye before any playoff games. This was actually something that plagued 1980's BYU, who dominated in the regular season but always struggled come bowl season. When you are firing on all cylinders at the end of the season after your conference championship game, it's incredibly hard to take a full month off and come right back in with the same intensity. That would be a very reasonable explanation for why certain teams (TCU, Michigan State, and Cincinnati) struggled. They didn't regularly make it to NY6 bowl games, so they didn't know how to come back after such a long time and keep their rhythm and timing going. Every single CFP champion, except for 2019 LSU played in at 2 NY6 bowl games within 3 years prior to winning their repesctive titles. That means that your biggest predictor for success in the 4-team format is whether you can win a NY6 bowl game. So, if that's the biggest indicator, why not make all of those teams play each other to see who really is the most elite? After all, who would've really come out on top in a 12-team playoff last year? Seeing so many elite teams from every single power conference will only further my point that matchups are key, which is how upsets happen. The only way to truly level the playing field like that is to open the bracket up and give everyone their fair shot. After all, a championship title isn't awarded to the "best" team, it's awarded to whoever wins all of their games.
Amen brother! This is what I have been saying for years! You can't have 4 out of 130 teams play in the playoffs and call it a national championship, especially when the majority of conferences don't even get a chance to play for the championship.
@@willster8759 those 4 teams are usually always the best.
@@arishemghoul9571key word “usually“ that’s exactly why you play the game! Any thing can happen on any given day.
I still to this day have no idea why an 8 team playoff was shot down so quickly. 6 games, 1 for each NY6 bowl then the natty. the talent drop off from 8-12 is so much larger then from 4-8 and yes theres a better chance of someone getting snubbed but it also prevents the best 4 teams in the country from getting a bye. Imagine if you are boise state and you have a perfect season and get in at the 9 seed for the G5 team. you upset the #8 team in penn state on the road and now your reward for a perfect season (with a very notable P5 win) is to then play the #1 team in ohio state who has an extra week of rest? I understand that the playoffs are a gauntlet for everyone but you are really screwing over the Cinderellas that the nation could get behind. I know that everyone in the country (besides alabama fans) were rooting for cincinnati when they got into the playoff. It just baffles my mind and I've yet to see a good reason why they went to 12 team over 8 team other than more ad revenue.
Because each P5 (at the time) conference wanted a chance to include 2 schools in the playoff. 8 teams assured that atleast 3 of the P5 conferences would only have 1 school.
I think 12 teams is more than enough.
It obviously allows teams like last years Georgia team to win a title. You give at least one group of 5 team a shot. Say next year 2 SEC teams are 11-1 , two BIG teams are 11-1, that's 4 teams plus a group of 5 team, an ACC champ, a big 12 champ, so at 7. 5 more teams seems a bit much. We will annually see 3 SEC, 3 BIG, group of 5, 2 BIG 12, and 2 ACC and still have 1 more team. I say cap the max per conference to 3 teams
Historically, in the BCS and CFP era, the controversy has revolved around teams ranked 2 through 6. Its never involved teams ranked 7-12. But by allowing the latter teams to be injected into the playoffs why should #1 team have to prove themselves against #12? Bit of a waste, at the expense of intellectualism.
If the G5 is continued to receive an invite via auto bid it would be interesting to incorporate a play-in bracket or even round robin instead of relying on polls. This could give schools an opportunity to host a playoff game and give more national exposure opportunities for the competing programs.
To make something like this work schedule wise, the G5 would need to have all their seasons start on week 0 (if even possible), and potential eliminate the conference championship game and/or reduce their season schedule by a game.
@@1320_ikimashoyea most people were arguing for a 6 team playoff. I think some more wanted to go to 8 with all 5 conference champs + 3 more. 12 seems like way too much. What’s likely to happen is a #1 or #2 team is gonna have a key player get injured playing a team they easily outclass then when they play another strong opponent in the semi’s or finals that 1 player could make the difference.
@@reverend_wintondupree I say give each of the for now power 4 soon to be power 3 no more than 3 teams and allow the possibility of a second or 3rd group of 5 teams an invite. So the power 3 each get 3 teams in. Allow the highest ranked teams fill the void there should be 3 slots for GO5 and a team or two for what's left of the ACC if they are ranked high enough. Notre Dame is always going to be lurking around taking a spot every year just because
Crazy they have taken this long to get here
The power of the bowls; history, tradition, and money.
You’re too stupid to understand why it’s terrible for the sport, but you’ll find out one day.
Honestly “tradition” has been holding college football back for far too long.
The only sport that does _not_ need a playoff system is NASCAR 🏁
I watched NASCAR for 10 years. They went all in on entertainment over anything else and it's an absolute train wreck of a sport. I started watching Indycar and never went back.
Yep. Havent watched nascar in at least 10 or 15 years
NASCAR is so good, it's set to explode internationally.
@jjrossitee Personally I prefer letting the drivers race without interference and let the best drivers win. NASCAR likes to manipulate the race for entertainment and it often changes the outcome of the race. I don't like it but if you do then that's fine.
I’d argue most sports don’t need it. Any sport where you play every other team in the league doesn’t need to have a playoff.
The amount of teams was a problem but the biggest problem is thinking playoff spots should be determined by a committee. There needs to be some objective way to make the standings. Other sports can just use record but CFB could do something like use strength of record to determine the standings
Great video, but one correction for you. The Ohio State University president who you quoted is E. Gordon Gee, not E. Gordon Lee.
The problem: $$$$$. Bigger schools will always get priority by the corporations
I was expecting you to tell us about the problems with the new system
I always wondered what having a playoff with the old format of 4 or now 12 would be like if the computers chose the teams and not a committee of people
That depends on a Commitee determining what inputs and weights to each input are included in the "computer's" selection model.
The computers were manipulated anyways
Your channel is underrated
Actually the very first CFP year in 2014 was controversial because TCU was ranked at 4 with their only loss to a top 10 team in Baylor that year but then somehow Ohio State gets to leapfrog them in the final rankings whenever they were 6th and then to add insult to injury TCU gets dropped two spots out of the last spot at 6th behind Baylor. Now I’m not saying for sure that TCU team would’ve won it all but they deserved to be in that year over Ohio State. In addition, there’s such double standards that have happened with the 4 team playoff system that it’s gotten quite ridiculous. Ohio State that year lost not only their starting QB but even their backup as well yet they were given the benefit of the doubt but 2023 Florida State couldn’t have? I bet you anything if that was Ohio State or Alabama in Florida State’s spot they would’ve been kept in at the 4th spot while in 2014 TCU wouldn’t have been provided the opportunity had roles been reversed to jump from 6th to 4th in that year’s final rankings before the games started.
Now in 2016 that was another controversy happening with Penn State who lost 2 games but they beat Ohio State head to head, got to their conference championship, won it, yet still got left out over an Ohio State team who might’ve had just 1 loss but didn’t even get there. If roles were reversed, the committee would’ve played favorites to make sure the Buckeyes were in even with 2 losses.
I’m really glad that this has been an expanded playoff format because it’s been well overdue for quite a while now and 12 teams is a really good start for settling controversy. I’m not saying it’ll completely end but controversy with 12 versus 13 won’t be nearly as bad as 4 versus 5
You cannot compare 2014 Ohio state and 2023 Florida state when it comes to losing their QB’s because Ohio State even with their third string QB absolutely annihilated Wisconsin 59-0 in the Big10 championship while Florida state struggled heavily to beat Louisville 16-6 in the ACC championship. In one case it was obvious losing the starting QB did not matter and in the other case it was obvious it did matter.
Baylor deserved to be in more than TCU did
@@parkerstraw5298 They make for a great case too. If one didn’t get put in, the other one easily could’ve but leaving them both out wasn’t right on any level. If Ohio State was already at 4 going into that final weekend, the committee would’ve easily kept them there and not give TCU or Baylor a chance. That year was of course favoritism for that 4th spot alongside what’s happened in 2016 and 2023 as well. If Ohio State was the team with 2 losses winning the Big Ten in 2016, they would’ve gotten the extra treatments to get put in 4th. As for Alabama, an undefeated SEC champion even if they lost Jalen Milroe would’ve gotten in over a 1-loss Florida State team because of favoritism and not really about strength of conference, strength of schedule, etc. Unfortunately nobody really likes to really think things this way and there’s not many really seeing through the BS.
@@parkerstraw5298 And then Baylor choked a 20-point lead to Michigan State. Deserved my ass.
I dont think 2016 Penn state was that much of a snub because they still did lose to a mediocre pitt team and got blown out by Michigan who Osu beat that year and osu had a better record than psu that year as well
This is a really fun format on College Football 25!
Yeah so I guess we all forget that a G5 team did make it in not 5 years ago with Cincinnati….. convenient that this was never mentioned in this video….
good breakdown, but it hurt my ears hearing E Gordon Gee called E Gordon Lee.
This will be the first real national champion
You don’t think the best team has truly won it before?
@@andrewgygi1608 In any given year, sure. But the rate at which that discussion can't be determined by objective results and data shows that the system itself never truly worked at determining that, it just got lucky with certain years situations.
@@TheRayzerBandit it got lucky? If you can go 13 games without proving you’re a top four team and earning it on the field, that’s 100% your own fault
@@andrewgygi1608 Except there have been multiple times in the 2 AND 4 team championships series that have had too many teams that were worthy but not enough spots so some where left out. It's subjectively better to have TOO MANY teams in the running to guarantee all the worthy teams get an opportunity and then it will be up to their play on the field to showcase that they are actually the top team in the country. Thus, this will be the only time we've had a system that guarantees an objective "best team".
@@TheRayzerBandit I agree, but saying this is the “first real national champion” is stupid. If you had a 12 team playoff every year for the last hundred years, Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Miami, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc. still would have dominated
11:25-11:43 Yeah…It’s almost like expanding the CFP and forcing more teams to shoot for the ultimate national title means they’re just always gonna lose!
I know! I know! Crazy logic, right? Why on Earth would something like THAT happen?
How does this only have 2000 views? Great video btw
You forgot to mention an undefeated Penn State team that was denied a national championship shortly after joining the Big Ten.
I think every conference champion plus six wild card teams. You could have some really fun games during that tournament.
Honestly I think it should be a 16 team tournament...
Every conference to include the G5's conference champions should get an automatic bid...
That would mean nine automatic bids and six at large teams.....
Basically 4, 4 team brackets with the higher seed getting a home field first round game...A regional championship and a final four...
The most any team would have to play is 4 games...
Every other level already has this.....
As an auburn fan I’m confused on how you say benefit of the doubt we literally have a top 5 strength of schedule and a lot of the sec is too 5-10 and your favorite school wouldn’t be able to hang in the sec
the media was hung up on the fact that Auburn played The Citadel. Never mind that the rest of their schedule was a lot tougher that USC and Oklahoma's .
The rankings are all inherently biased, meaning that metrics like strength of schedule, based on inherently biased rankings, are inherently biased.
This false perception has been ruining college football for decades now. It's just dumb people's way of still fighting the civil war.
I could be wrong, but I think having an expanded playoff helps recruitment for teams outside of the traditional powers. Because now you don’t have to go to one to have a chance at a championship.
Be willing to bet 10 or 11 of the 12 teams will be from Power 4 Conferences.
@@martyf3531 you’re probably right in the immediate future, but I’m wondering if at some point, the top talent will be more spread out.
Really good video man. Keep it up ! Yale is the true blue blood of college football
the college education system in the U.S. is a business first and foremost always. so imagine how they treat their most coveted and profitable sport. its one big happy, money making, family.
Look I know the BCS wasn’t the best but it’s way better than this car accident we all about to see
Those teams who have had playoffs and BCS sports handed to them for decades are sure butthurt by the new playoff.
The problem is pretty simple, the quality disparity between the best FBS team in the worst FBS team is absolutely massive and so equivalent records aren't equivalent to each other really because schedules matter a lot. I feel like it's pretty much impossible to get a system that is objective or going to satisfy everyone. Frankly they should split FBS into a higher tier in a lower tier if they want things to be more consistent.
That's only a problem if you let it be a problem. Other sports have the same situation where there's a huge gap between the best teams and the worst teams, but they don't let it be a problem.They give the smaller teams a chance to compete even if they are severely outclassed. The UEFA Champions League, for example, doesn't exclude teams from the smallest countries in Europe from competing. Sometimes you get games where one team's entire payroll is less than the salary of a single player of their opponent.
@@Klako-ls6ytthat's funny cause it's called the champions League, so a league of all the champions of domestic leagues yet some champions are worse than a mid tier EPL team.
@@Klako-ls6yt I don't know about you but personally I'm not interested in watching absolute curb stomps of games it's extremely boring when the skill Gap is extremely huge as it is in college football. It just makes for a worse product.
@@chicken29843 Then don't call it a national championship if you want teams eliminated from contention before opening kickoff. It's not a legitimate championship if that's the case.
@@leehaiko3999 Yeah, and those champions get an opportunity to compete in the Champions League while the mid-tier EPL team doesn't. That's the point. The Champions League doesn't exclude the smaller countries.
Playoff expansion was such a bad decision
How? I'm relatively new to college football but even so it seems the bcs and 4 team playoff was full of controversy
You didn't even have to notice his handle to guess which one of 2 or 3 colleges this guy supported. The screaming and crying about the expanded playoff is all coming from those schools that have had everythign handed to them for decades.
Honestly i prefer the chaos of the old way. Give me split champions!
Nah what they should do is have the whole season be a massive bracket. And then once you lose and are out of the bracket you get a regular schedule against other schools that lost in your round.
I can’t take anyone seriously who sees FSU being left out as a problem but is willing to handwave teams like undefeated UCF being left out twice in a row. G5 schools decided it on the field just as much as FSU did. It just screams selfish “I don’t care until it happens to me” behavior.
3:00 Just FYI, they used to vote for national champion before the bowl games until sometime in the 60's
I think the 12 team playoff is gonna be awesome. Should’ve been done 30 years ago. The crappy part will be when Big 12, ACC, & G5 only get one team each. Need more P4 on P4 nonconference games in the future to properly measure up conference strength, like basketball.
Brilliant video
As a casual FBS follower at best, the way a definitive champion is decided has been confusing. Hope the 12-team playoff format will solve most of the problems. Still, the seedings are best decided with a fair and simple formula, if possible, rather than subjectively.
11:40 ok then, name teams that would have had better results in those games, because you can’t. The Bama-Michigan game was a classic. FSU would have gotten killed like they did vs UGA and everyone knows it.
yea I'm a noles fan but without a starting quarterback we stand no chance😅
Least delusional Florida state fan
I dont know if it wouldve been as bad as the georgia game bc most of fsu's starters opted out of that game whereas if they were in the rose bowl against michigan everyone besides jordan travis would be playing however I still think they wouldn't come within 3 scores of Michigan
11:00 nah homie they were left out in favor of TWO one loss P5 champions. And they haven't won a game since.
good video i subbed i like the format
College Football is all about gimmicks, money and a lot of blowouts
It’s too many games. You have to win your season then 4 games after that to get a national championship
How is it too many? It's not like any players in the schools involved actually attend classes or anything.
How to fix the regular season and make it important again, copy the UFC and have the regular season champion (1 seed)wait at the top for someone through the playoffs to challenge them
I don’t know how to explain this, but this video feels…warmmmm? 👀 Iono, don’t judge me 😅. Cool video, easy subscription
What it’s going to do is simply include multiple teams from the mega conferences. Teams like Boise State still won’t get in. Alabama, Georgia and LSU will get in every year. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State too. It won’t help the small schools. The teams I mentioned draw ratings, especially when they play each other.
Just make the Big 10 and SEC a minor league sponsored by the NFL already. That way they can break off which is what they want to do anyway.
We better hope that there aren’t multiple G5 teams going undefeated from here on out.
Honestly, the most “fair” version of a playoff would be a 28 team playoff, each conference gets an auto bid, with the top 4 conference champs getting a bye.
Until every conference champion is able to get into the playoff, there’s always going to be potential for a team getting undeservedly screwed.
The problem with that is the number of games that the teams have to play is too much, especially if for the teams that don’t get first round byes
@@lukebishop8858 We won’t even know how feasible it is until we see how the 12 team playoff goes for 5 years or so.
If 12 teams works out really well, all you’re really adding is one additional weekend of scheduling. You’d also need to wait for the NIL/school payment structure to stabilize so kids are getting compensated properly for playing so many additional games.
No team with more than 2 losses should win a college football title. The more selective the process the better.
Also, if we want to include every conference champion, then everyone should play each other in that conference. If not, I feel it’s a flawed system.
Why even play a regular season at that point? Just make it one big playoff and include everyone?
I hope it doesn't work the way it does in NCAA 25. Was ranked 8th as Navy and didn't make the playoffs. Was ranked 1st as Navy the following 3 years and had to play an extra game each year.
My only dispute is they should have gone with an 8-team playoff. However, the one benefit that a 12- team playoff has that an 8 does not, is homefield advantage for the 1st round. A college playoff game at their own stadium? Uhhhh yes please!
If fcs can do the playoff fbs certainly can but then the universities would lose out their precious bowl money….
Its still a committee deciding every slot except the Top 4 being conference champs. For ever blow out in the playoff, there is a instant classic on the other side. You will till have non power 5 teams getting "snubbed", and blown out. You will still have the random semi finals where you expect a show, end up being blow outs like the Clemson over Bama in like 2016, and Bama over Ohio state in 2020, GA stomping TCU. In fact i am willing to bet we will have MORE one sided games, the first round will be ugly more often than not.
How long till we are trying to make it 16 teams? Or start giving G5 teams pity slots.
In an effort to prevent the same teams from always winning, we now have a system that will guarantee that only a few teams have any shot at winning a national championship. Also, the regular season now has much less meaning so that casual fans can only watch the playoffs and so that the playoff spots can now be contested by mediocre teams (vying for the top 12) instead of top teams (vying for the top 4.)
The tired "regular season won't mean as much" b.s. argument is the stupidest one the bowl people ever injected into dumb fans' heads, and showing how easily manipulated they are, these pinecones dutifully repeated it as if it meant something. Here's a hint for you: for 95% of all college football teams, the moment they lost their first game, the rest of the regular season became meaningless. A playoff makes the regular season much more important as every game counts, and your last month of games isn't irrelevant because everyone already has 2 losses.
I know Florida won the championship back in 2006 or 7 but they shouldn't have been there to begin with with the strength of schedule stuff since Florida lost to an unranked team and Michigan lost to Ohio State. Should have been a BLUE and scarlet rematch
Playoffs, especially as they are done here in the U.S., are for MONEY, not for sporting reasons.
I'll never in a million years understand why some of the issues you describe in this video are seen as insane, but a 3-loss 11th seed from the SEC who lost to the 0-loss 1st seed from the SEC in both the regular season and conference championship, could beat them in the championship final by a point and magically that doesn't create any problems for people.
The problem with something like college football is that you can't view the "national championship" as the goal, because there are too many teams and not enough games (and there never will be). I've always viewed college football as first and foremost a CONFERENCE championship sport -- i.e., you play to win your conference. Once you have done that, you play to win a prestigious bowl game against ideally another conference champion. Then at the end of the day there is a "national championship" awarded as an extra. I always thought that system worked really, really well if people understood that the real goals of the season were the conference title and the Bowl win, which helped to foster great rivalries and longstanding traditions, and frankly made it fun with all the regional bragging rights.
Yes, basketball has March Madness, but let's be honest that the powers that be like that because of REVENUE. Many years it's a godawful way of picking a champion.
We need a group stage playoff followed by single elimination like the UCL.
The Ohio State President (current WVU president) is Gorden Gee, not Gorden Lee.
Personally I just think the playoff field needs to be a power of 2. No auto byes for the best teams which essentially tilts the playing field in their favor. I think 8 teams with a straight up quarterfinal and semifinal is perfect.
The perfect playoff field would be 2. Then again I am elitist when it comes to sports.
That's exactly what the p2 super conference is trying to introduce
I still think it should be every conference winner in FBS and THEN at large bids.
The biggest tradegy is that horrendous trophy
12 teams is more than enough if your team isn't top 6 making it is a privilege not a right. Especially if you're a 3 loss team
I always wanted 16 teams-all conference champs + at larges, seed them by polls or committee, similar to March Madness. I can live with 12 because there is almost no scenario in which an undefeated team gets left out. People may whine about a team like Liberty 2023 in a playoff, but that team would have to win 3 games against top competition, one being a true road game-the same route as any 3-loss big conference team whiners would want in that spot anyway. It's not perfect, but there is no perfect way to determine the best team in a 130 team league that plays 12 games in its regular season.
10:22 I like OSU chances in that game
No mention of 2004 Auburn - unless I missed it.
Nobody cares about 2004 Auburn...or Auburn in general.
@@lougiacobbi725 I had to laugh.
This playoff will mostly be 10 SEC teams and the big 12 and big 10 champions.
Why didn’t Washington play in the Rose Bowl?
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For the last decade the best team in the country has been ndsu, a fcs team. To resolve this the fcs and fbs champions should play in the first week,of the season.
My only disagreement is that a twelve playoff game is that it's going to exhaust the players and they need there rest and a 4 playoff game, 6 playoff game or 8 playoff game would have made more sense to me because I would have loved for the college football playoff to keep it the same with 4 playoff game or come up with a compromise to make it a 6 playoff game or 8 playoff game because 12 games is way too much and I understand they want to play for more NIL money but players are going to going to get hurt with a 12 playoff game and I wish that they wouldn't do that because it's too complex and it's not good for college football players and college football and I liked it better when it was 2 semi finals games and the two winners to advance to a national championship and if they lose in the Conference championship they go to a bowl game and I disagree with the 12 college football playoff game and I'm upset about the move they unanimously and intentionally made and thats a mistake and I don't like it and nobody likes a 12 college football playoff game. That's not right. I wish that wouldn't do that. I wish they wouldn't do that at all. I hate it.
They need forced conference realignment to 16 conferences, all with conference championships where the winner plays on in the playoff while the loser goes to a bowl game
E. Gordon Gee. Not Lee.
2003 being a "split" championship is a myth. LSU won the BCS title: the fact that USC was on top of the AP poll doesn't matter since the AP was only one part of the BCS formula.
Still, a good review, nonetheless!
Most people and coaches knew usc was the best team in Cfb that year.
Most people and coaches knew usc was the best team in Cfb that year.
@@user-nn7jq1rq5u Make no mistake: the BCS definitely screwed 'em, but that doesn't mean they got a title for it.
@SamwiseTheNotSoBrave I mean it's kind of accepted. The AP and coaches said screw the bcs that season and voted usc the national champs and awarded them the #1 ranking at the end of the season.
@@user-nn7jq1rq5u The AP Poll put USC at the top, but the Coaches Poll actually put LSU.
Again, USC got screwed, but LSU was the champ that year.
FCS and G5 should be combined. Schools should also be allowed to play D1 basketball but D2 in all other sports...including football.
FCS is still D1. In fact, its champion is the NCAA recognized D1 football champion.
2:21 Washington STATE
Always felt Florida state didn’t play many good teams, heck, they for most of the second half scrapping just to hold on and beat Louisville and at no point did I think they looked like champion material.
Doesn’t help they also got blown out by UGA right after that either.
They couldn't get the best two teams right. They couldn't get the best 4 teams right. What makes anyone think they are going to get the 12 team playoffs right? 😂
The playoff problem begins and ends with letting in teams that don’t win their conference.
Beat your rival, win your conference, win your bowl game, then playoff the 4 major bowl winners, who should only be conference champions.
This is basically anarchy and will end when the SEC and BIG eat the other conferences.
Not every team that matters plays in a conference.
Good thing they made it 12 this year lol
5:34 Washington ducked that smoke
the conference switches & the 12 team playoff making me less interested ngl
Where you get the hat?!?
No hate look into a de-esser for the harsh sss sound in the audio
To all the Clemson haters, go ahead and look at who has had the most blowouts in the playoffs. And since the playoffs have started only 3 teams have won 2 or more times. Bama, Clemson, Georiga. Oh and the only school to play in the championship more than Clemson is Bama. The list is the same Bama 6 times, Clemson 4 times and Georiga 3 times.
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FSU and Clemson want to jump into the Big 10.
11:25 😂
Why is the SEC tougher than everybody else?
They aren't. The media just wants to tell you that.
@@lougiacobbi725 no but I can literally see it on the field and I can see it with championships and I can see it with playoff appearances, and how they perform in the playoffs can pretty much guarantee a SEC school will win the championship this year and not a single SEC opponent will lose to another conference in the playoffs. They will only lose to each other.
The playoff needs to and will be abolished by the Make College Football Great Again movement who will take the whole sport back to the twentieth century with only polls and bowls deciding a champion. It will also be helped by lawmakers undoing realignment and abolishing NIL. Like there would be a major exodus of players upset about national championships being decided by polls again?
It is just football guys
Spent waaaay too long on history
The 4 team playoff was fine.
So were rotary phones and black and white television.
That SpongeBob clip outed me
I hate when I click on these videos and it takes me back 100 years in history. If you need to fill your videos up with wikipedia articles do a much better job. This shit is boring and there are 10 other CFB youtubers out there.
I tapped out at "1902".